Nintendo...Just Stop It

[@Seanbo88]

Yo Bill, if you haven't already, can we get a video on that sweet plug-in arcade setup? Super nice.

[@NerdNest]

Is there interest in this?

[@bryan8638]

Yeah that's cool as heck! ​@@NerdNest

[@thatfreeze]

Nintendo is somehow one of the best publishers right now, yet one of the worst companies community wise.

[@kaepowboom9116]

The sad truth

[@BReal23-qm8hs]

Haven't bought anything from them in years.

[@zek62482]

Nintendo is literally dead to me. Why would I give money to a company that hates me? Crap like this is why open source needs to be more of a thing.

[@morten8028]

I just emulate all their games out of spite.

[@nanashi5139]

@@morten8028same here. Currently playing totk on my steam deck oled

[@seeibe]

@@morten8028 Based

[@bison08-t6e]

dam right lol but I'm sure 2025 is Nintendos end date to attack all emulation considering they now wanna be the bad guys of gaming. Nintendo is team Rocket lol

[@jnrosenb]

@@zek62482 because they make great games.

[@pholly]

As long as people keep giving Nintendo money, they'll keep hiring lawyers. They are anti-gamer and so is anyone who is defending their behavior.

[@balmashev93]

"They have a patent on when you have an isometric view, and then a character is covered by a tree, for example, the character can still be seen as a shadow," Nintendo has a patent for SHADOW. Idk why Japanese government allows such crap

[@SrslyTony]

And to think Nintendo is suing palworld without them borrowing sprites and assets, and up until that case appeared, I would have assumed this fangame with different music and spritework would be COMPLETELY SAFE

[@Dr.D00p]

I just don't like the way they try and hide their ruthless, greed driven corporate nature behind that faux cutesy, Disney facade.

[@aquapolaris719]

What if someone had nothing to lose, take them to court and see how the press handles it.

[@caspearious-ghost]

Most people do have something to lose... and good lawyers still cost money. Too bad there isn't some super-rich billionaire like Elon that would go after some of these companies to take them to court. It would be awesome if Nintendo threatened to take a regular person to court and an Elon Musk type interjected on behalf of the regular person and said, "I got you covered and supported. Take it all the way"

[@CFWhitman]

It's only trademarks that you must defend to keep your rights. You can let copyright slip for years and then still come back and sue. Of course, if you become aware of copyright infringement and wait a long time to sue that particular infringer, it will be questioned why, and damages will be limited (to stop people from purposely letting infringement go on to accumulate damages). However, if you let one or two or three parties infringe copyright to their hearts' content, you can still sue the next party to infringe, unlike with trademarks. Edit: By the way patents expire after twenty years, so a patent from before 2004 no longer applies (I'm ignoring evergreening here because it's difficult to imagine it being relevant to game play patents).

[@NerdNest]

Thanks, I misunderstood that!

[@RichardJacksonMinute]

I love the Nemesis system so much and WB is just sitting on it

[@alegotronnortogela7695]

Which is stupid because Mordor is fundamentally a clone of Assassin's Creed.

[@bison08-t6e]

WB is the real Nemesis lol

[@maximedissaux9030]

I think they’re going to use it in the Wonder Woman game

[@gdot1803]

Hopefully we start to see more developers, at least on the Indie side, show their support and not bring their games to Switch 2.

[@NerdNest]

I still want indie devs to bring their games to the Switch.

[@james.b.mcgill]

I'm also not a lawyer but it is trademark that companies are compelled to defend, not copyright.

[@ni55an86]

I love all the disconnect happening right now. NINTENDO is NINTENDO. The games are not disconnected from the company. If you love your Mario and camnot stop thats fine. Just don't cope and recognize that you are paying a trash company.

[@HaohmaruHL]

The biggest disconnect here is about muricans not realizing that other countries exist out there and that they may have different laws, like in this case with Japan's copyright laws. People hating on Nintendo for copyright issues just proves they don't see the whole picture and that Nintendo as a company is just only abiding the law of its own country (sick, right?). And that the majority of all other Japanese companies will also come after you for this same reason. It's exactly why the Japanese parts of the internet are so sterile and all that "content creation" fluff like reaction videos or game/movie reviews which dominate the western part of KZbin don't even exist. You can't do those type of things in Japan due to legal reasons. Also why Toei got infamous for striking all those reaction channels - they are just doing what they believe violates their law. It's all across the country and they literally see such actions as theft. But no, western cry babies don't realize this and choose to cry on social media, because bad corpo guy doesn't let them use their IP for free. Want to fight this? Go fight the Japanese government who is responsible for the law, not Nintendo, lol. All these keyboard warriors should get out of their basements and touch grass from time to time to get back some connection with reality.

[@MegaJugganot]

Unfortunately it's not a legal gray area. Its not selling that's illegal, it's distribution; of which selling is only one form.

[@gonekrazy3000]

@nerdnest you failed to mention that the ball throwing patent was made after Palworld was revealed to the public. its extremely scummy on Nintendos part. On top of that. Shin Megami tensei had monster collecting before Palworld existed. And pokemon Gen 1 designs ? theyre ripoffs of Dragonquest monsters. so its okay for nintendo to steal.

[@NerdNest]

Oh man, I didn't even know about that part! What?

[@danimourinho]

Thats the reason i stopped buying anything nintendo related.

[@illegalalien6542]

Funny thing is everyone is pissed at big, bad Nintendo for essentially abusing the court system via copyright/patents when it was another "beloved" company/character that paved the way for this: Disney and the magical right Mickey. Nintendo isn't the problem, they're merely a symptom of a much bigger problem.

[@MN0VV4]

That’s the sad thing Nintendo will never stop even if they lose.

[@bison08-t6e]

Nintendo who once inspired imagination and creativity now crush all competitive imagination and creativity when it comes to gaming lol. Thanks for a video before you're swamped with class work thought it was gonna be a whole week before another cast lol. Got use to every Tuesday for a new podcast 😁

[@mrrosa913]

Just stop buying their shit and they will learn

[@waynewonder27]

😂😂 That’s never ever happening to them

[@juiceman-u6d]

I’m split when it comes to Nintendo. When compared to Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo has better quality games and buck the industry trends that have become common place. Yet they are one of the worst when it comes to being anti-consumer and have zero transparency. They have already handled the transition to Switch 2 poorly and we didn’t even know what games came out after June until we got to the month.

[@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk]

if people on the internet can prove Pal world broke copyright laws, I'm 1,000,00x sure Nintendo's Litigation team would be more than capable of elaborating on the ideas.

[@malayaniadam]

lets be honest nintendo is the biggest game company in the world and changed everything we understand from gaming several times. steam deck is my favorite gaming device but it wont be any steam deck if nintendo did not invent a hybrite console. they created mario bros. and all game producers started to produce mario like platformers in the past. they created g&w and game boy every company started to make their own handheld. no one did not gone further than copying nintendo since nes. hovewer what they do now is ridiculous. i think everyone has the right to create videos about his own games. if you own a mario game you should have to right to make videos about it. because you paid its money its your property now. you have all rights to play your own games on pc or steam deck. as conclusion game industry should stop copying nintendo and being more creative in future and n'ntendo should stop sueing every one who uses its stuff. sorry about my language. wish the best

[@shindre1]

Hmm Nintendo stole the Pokémon Idea from other Japanese manga and games that came before it like, Monster Rancher, Megami Tensei even Ghost Busters has the same concept. Nintendo is holding the gaming world back.

[@lyudvig_]

I think if one of those companies put a kickstarter campaign to fight Nintendo people will donate millions to it. Everyone is sick of Nintendo copyright nonsense

[@AndrewTSq]

Can add that in the 80ies, Nintendo tried to make used games illegal to sale 😂

[@DrDoomFate]

Just downloaded the 1.1.2 version. I'll check it out after finishing Echoes of Wisdom on my Steam Deck.

[@chrisrobinson3494]

Coming from someone who hasn't liked nintendo since the original Donkey Kong,(which is the ONLY game from that company i like) im not surprised by that scummy companies actions, i wish they'd go out of business.

[@sandplasma]

Nintendo should review the game, approve it and buy it. Then sell it as "Nintendo modded" non cannon content. That would encourage creativity and push their own development teams

[@bryan8638]

I really don't understand how everyone thinks Nintendo is evil for literally protecting their own IPs

[@archaichobo6969]

I and a lot of people I know will never buy another nintendo product again because of their petty bs.

[@benpregent]

I heard you mention it on the podcast yesterday, made sure to download ASAP!

[@RedMageGaming]

Nintendo needs to lose this, for the sake of game development in the future and Patent law in the software market needs to drastically change. If Nintendo were to take their patents to task they would be able to sue over a good majority of games that exist, they hold so many patents on such a wide variety of basic game systems and functions that it would be nearly impossible to make a compelling game without stepping on a landmine. In Japan though public sentiment is that Nintendo is gracious enough to allow people to use these patents for free, and only comes down on those that disrespect them and their position. To me this is just patent trolling, because Palworld came in and took the Pokémon formula, and with their own changes made something that ended up surpassing the meme of 'Pokémon with guns' to be a genuinely enjoyable and fun game. Because palworld borrows the aesthetic style of Pokémon to such a degree, but there's no direct copyright infringement that they can nail down, they are gunning for what they feel is the sure thing. With Nintendo's 100% victory rate with this kind of thing their confidence on the matter is clearly high. I don't think they are looking to settle though; I think Nintendo is out for blood and wants palworld gone. They are aiming for an injunction to stop the sales of the game, and reparations for the use of the patents. Palworld I hope has the determination to fight, and get's lawyers who are capable of bringing their A game to the court, because this is not going to be an easy battle.

[@Pegaroo_]

Because they used a box not a ball, totally different😂😂

[@ZaberfangX]

I think Nintendo wants palworld gone for good.

[@Evercade_Effect]

It's just Nintendo being Nintendo. 😢 To each their own. I speak with my wallet and choose Steam Deck to do PC gaming instead of buying a Switch.

[@faiga3544]

I dont understand why if nintendo won't let their fan make fan make "fan games", why don't we just boycott nintendo till they beg us to make them? Its not like nintendo are the only company that makes games😊

[@wallace8637]

We have steam deck.

[@TheThirdH]

I don’t see how Nintendo is wrong in these cases because Nintendo is doing what they’re supposed to do as a business… for all the reasons that you mentioned. The reality is that the games would have the publicity or traction if they were not Nintendo adjacent… and the devs of those games know this. They intentionally made the games Nintendo adjacent in order to sell a similar game on another platform at the end of the day.

[@pepex8050]

can valve paid arm licence make their custom cpu and ecosystem like this ? valve vs apple steamos vs ios steam store vs appstore steamdeck vs valve phone vs iphone valve laptop vs macbook steam index vs apple visionpro

[@seanms35]

If it's a parody and free, then yes it's legal. BUT~ it's also up to the discretion of the creator if they want to send you a Cease and Desist.

[@HaohmaruHL]

Japan's strict copyright laws VS some random neckbeards on the western parts of KZbin who think fair use exist outside murica and want to use Japan's content for free. Hmmmmm.... *grabs popcorn*

[@ufailowell]

well this video is gonna get pulled

[@NerdNest]

I hope not

[@Deadmeme64]

I don't really buy nintendo games anymore. Partly because I've found most nintendo games minus totk to be pretty boring and shallow in the past few years but also just how litigious and anti consumer they are. And this is coming from someone who was a diehard nintendo fan during the wii u era.Even back then it was easier to overlook the legal garbage because the games were better but that isn't the case anymore imo.

[@Mmmmmk247]

I love everything about this except dying and starting over. Can’t get into these games…I think I’m alone here

[@NerdNest]

I like them, but I do prefer games that have a meta progression, unlocking more stuff as you go and keeping those options as you play more. They have said they may add meta progression. But this is a RogueLike, not a RogueLite

[@Invid72]

Even if I liked Nintendo games I wouldn't buy them because the company is terrible.

[@elijahbowers1]

Yeah eff Nintendo

[@cmkornak107]

Nintendo is clearly a bad actor, but as feedback you need to be a little more precise if you are going to discuss Copyright / Patent issues. The copyright analogy wasn't great because they are reusing assets (not exactly comparable to an artist painting Link). Further reusing assets and redistributing is a problem when the sprites/etc. were created by another entity. Additionally the patent discussion was a little messy and quite out of date. Software patent eligibility has been narrowed significantly to prevent the abuses you are noting. Instead of focusing on ancient patent issues related to the history of video games, the argument would have been more credible if you focused on the WB/Mordor aspects (or anything else from the last decade).

[@ZeroB4NG]

You really gonna make me search for the Link myself? ...fine! ...uuugh why is it always Discord? I'm 40, i don't do that sh*t! ...fine! got it. kthxbye

[@NerdNest]

That's a good question.

[@keepitshort4208]

Palworld

[@orian-x]

Who is the first shooter game 🔫 hehehe 😂theere will be no game by now😅. I totally agree with you 👍🏼this is just crazy 🤬 that why we can't have good games

[@pepex8050]

can valve make their ecosystem like this ? valve vs apple steamos vs ios steam store vs appstore steamdeck vs valve phone vs iphone valve laptop vs macbook steam index vs apple visionpro

[@4ksandknives]

Sony needs to acquire pal world

[@TheScripflipNetwork]

No, you stop it 😘

[@NerdNest]

Can't stop won't stop

[@arcadeportal32]

:) First Comment! 10/10 beat the bots!

[@vsnrygaming8954]

Piracy and bootlegging are part of human society and nature. It will never stop. All Nintendo has done by being petty and suing is create more demand for both their IP and the bootlegged and pirated IP. Thank you Nintendo for making piracy of your products possible. Looking forward to Switch 2 emulation asap 🥲