The Complete Travels of Túrin Turambar | Tolkien Explained

[@VinnyPTAstartes]

Turin: This is the worst day of my life! Morgoth: Worst day of your life so far

[@Raleyg]

Every. Single. Day.

[@SW-fn7cl]

😂

[@PhillipG34]

The story in a nutshell lmao

[@squamish4244]

Morgoth: "Imma let you finish, Imma let you finish, but your next day and the day after that and the day after that are going to be your worst days of all time, of all time!"

[@OmarTheAtheistAziz]

didn't know Homer & Bart were a fan of Tolkien

[@olis5233]

Ever since I was a kid The Children of Húrin always screamed 'Oscar winning epic tragedy' to me. This really is Tolkien's most Shakespearean tale, it deserves a lot more love. 👌

[@Enerdhil]

A Classic Greek Tragedy.

[@AnnaMarianne]

It's inspired by - actully, to large degree based on - the tale of Kullervo from Kalevala, the collection of ancient Finnish poetry. The scene of Túrin's suicide is pretty much the same scene as Kullervo's suicide, with the names changed.

[@olis5233]

@@AnnaMarianne Ah that's really cool!

[@peterandjunko]

The part with Glaurung is directly inspired by the Sigurd/Siegfried story from Norse/Wagner. Sigurd kills the dragon from a pit below with his fathers sword.

[@gwarner99b]

@@AnnaMarianne And there is an excellent classical composition by Sibelius, also called Kullervo, which I would recommend to any Tolkien fan. Available on Spotify in several performances. Edit: also here on KZbin at kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIuWp4GoaaqmmbM

[@SpecialOrder_937]

The death of Beleg is one of the most striking passages in all of Tolkien’s works , that scene in burned into my mind

[@goodputin4324]

At the hands of Anglachel of all weapons.

[@SpecialOrder_937]

@@goodputin4324 the weapon that still held the malice of its maker was won by a heart filled with the love of friendship

[@goodputin4324]

@@SpecialOrder_937 tragic for Beleg and Turin in the end.

[@SpecialOrder_937]

@@goodputin4324 And they are sundered from each other forever

[@goodputin4324]

@@SpecialOrder_937 sad indeed.

[@bernardomartinez6776]

Knowing that Turin Turambar is the chosen one to put an end to Morgoth at the end of all time, gives me goosebumbs.

[@jaieregilmore971]

So how do you think he will come back? Will be reincarnated or will he be leave the hall of Mandos with his gear ready for war.

[@DavidEllis94]

​@@jaieregilmore971Neither, I'm guessing. Certainly not returning from the Halls of Mandos, at any rate, since the spirits of men don't stay in the Halls of Mandos. They either pass through there briefly or skip the Halls altogether before going..... somewhere. Nobody, except potentially Mandos and *maybe* Manwë, knows where men go when they die, but they probably go to be with Eru in the Timeless Halls beyond Eä. The prophecy that foretells Turin's return wasn't actually published in the Silmarillion, but it does say that Turin will return and fight at Manwë's left hand during the Dagor Dagorath, doing battle with Morgoth's forces on the plains of Valinor. I'm not sure if it ever specifies what gear he carries, but I would think the implication is that Turin is not reincarnated, but simply returns in full from the Timeless Halls.

[@jealousyxanderblood7894]

@@jaieregilmore971 Eru will set loose the gates of the halls of mandos where Turin wait in great preparation for the promised moment where he will avenge not just men and elves but arda itself. For he will go unscathed unto the field of battle to deliver Morgoth the judgement of the valar once and for all.

[@jaieregilmore971]

@@jealousyxanderblood7894 Oh so it’s like Ragnarok situation seems fitting for Turin to become the bane of Morgoth.

[@jealousyxanderblood7894]

@@jaieregilmore971 quite

[@SpikeSpiegelSpacecowboy]

Something happens to Turin Turin: "huh, guess I'll change my name"

[@NerdoftheRings]

🤣🤣🤣

[@SpikeSpiegelSpacecowboy]

@@NerdoftheRings love your content, keep up the great work 💜

[@uzaysezer9565]

I think in a way by changing his name he is trying to also leave behind his ill fate and start fresh, but the curse always finds its way back to him. Though this theory is bit hampered by how some other characters can have 20000000 different names for funsies

[@Ace-cr9qt]

@@NerdoftheRings You should do a video about the dwarves in the first Age

[@ottarbirkeland239]

Normal in many cultures. My own grandfather changed his last name several times, just because he moved. He used his last name as an postal zip code.

[@quaffdowngin]

Tolkien masterfully captures the despair of both Nienor and Turin at the end to the point that the reader experiences it emotionally, and it is devestating.

[@Aelrandir]

I feel like Beleg is such an underappreciated elf that hardly ever gets mentioned. Fiercely loyal, and from the beginning almost acts as a mentor/elder brother like figure to Turin. No doubt it's partially thanks to him that Turin had such skill of arms and martial combat. I wonder how things might have gone different had he not been slain as he did. He's probably my favorite of the Sindarin elves.

[@kanafinwereincarnation]

Beleg is amazing, very true

[@audreydimmel6674]

If I could change one thing in Middle-Earth's timeline. Just one. Beleg would have lived.

[@Max1990Power]

He is my favourite as well. I see a lot of myself in Beleg. Or he inspired me to be more like him. Ever since I read silmarillion when I was 14.

[@johns1625]

😭😭😭

[@gorghor]

Beleg was also exceptionally skilled with a bow. Elves in general are amazing archers (especially in the first age, I don't think anybody could question the prowess of Elven warriors when you have characters like Fingolfin literally wounding the dark lord 7 times), so to be renowned with a bow even among the Elves is no small feat.

[@johndoe5432]

Turin, otherwise known as the unluckiest dude in existence.

[@freibier]

Yup, and every day of his life is "wait, it gets worse!"

[@dannyc.3382]

That sword was bad luck!!!

[@johns1625]

Yeah but that sword tho

[@artimuos903]

Actually it's his dad who got more unlucky.

[@higherheights1257]

I agree he was really unlucky

[@Modulates]

A really heart wrenching story read by the GOAT himself: Christopher Lee.

[@olis5233]

My god that audiobook is next level incredible. Christopher is greatly missed ❤️

[@Modulates]

@@olis5233 forever and always. He and Ian Mckellan are truly the wizards we deserve.

[@ismailcanozdemir348]

@Theoden King god for you, theoden

[@nickolas.vicente]

Hearing him do the Glaurung voice was so epic

[@Modulates]

@@chrisb4127 I know Audible has the full thing (which is where I got it from) but other places MAY have it

[@NomadUrpagi]

Most people would forever fall into depression after 2-3 serious mistakes, but Turin endured 8 of them before he gave up.

[@JonJon-pj9ly]

This one hit me like a truck

[@NomadUrpagi]

@@JonJon-pj9ly how

[@JonJon-pj9ly]

@@NomadUrpagi Ive made some mistakes and I struggle to not let them bring me down. Your comment os powerful cuz I think most people go throught that.

[@NomadUrpagi]

@@JonJon-pj9ly personally what i would do is share my struggles who i really trust(usually a friend, a family member or a wife/gf which i dont have), which, obviously, helps us feel we are not alone because someone understands us and cares about us. But, i assume, you already know all this and my cliche advice is of no use, as it is well known that everyone has their own struggles in life.

[@JonJon-pj9ly]

@@NomadUrpagi Thanks bro (or sis). I really believe everybody goes thought that at some point, like you start to believe that your current state is solely based on your past decisions, and not only you coulve been much better today, but also that you lost precious time. Sometimes you question if you have virtue. Its nothing too dreadful like Turin, its just normal stuff, sometimes I worry if I have made life of others worse with my decisions. Some of them make you struggle a bit in order to rebuild yourself, but thats normal I guess.

[@elvenstar32]

Hurin: Damn, my family cannot be any more effed up! Morgoth: Hold my beer...

[@n00bplayer72]

As a writer and an artist, I can confirm that we all have that character that has an edgy, tragic backstory and goes through edgy, tragic things all the time, but _DEAR LORD_ Tolkien, you didn't have to go this hard!

[@jamescallaghan270]

My favorite Tolkien character by my favorite Tolkien KZbinr.

[@airixxxx]

My favorite character also!

[@petarvugdelic3600]

I don't know if you will ever read this comment but I have to say I got chills all over my body from this clip and you explaining the story. Whats most important is you are even by just explaining the story doing justice to it with background music, voiceovers and video editing all together. Well done, truly you are one of a kind and to me this is the best yt channel ever.

[@NerdoftheRings]

Thanks so much for your kind words! 🙏

[@MrPiestro]

My favorite Tolkien character! Such a tragic character. He could have lived and thrived with King Thingol. Could possibly have been one of the few Men to marry an elf (Finduilas). He was also seconds from meeting his cousin Tuor at the pools of Ivrin and may have done great good if they combined strength. He was one of the tallest and most feared men in Tolkien history. He was able to slay Glaurung single handedly. His pride and always feeling he was being slighted was his downfall. There was not a better friendship between Elf and Man than him and Beleg. I would love to see the Children of Hurin made into a series.

[@jonathantorres5656]

I always thought that the Children of Húrin would make an amazing film. Such a well written tragedy and filled with amazing moments and characters. How I envision a trilogy: 1- Hurin in the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, death of Lalaith, Turin sent to Doriath 2- Turin & the outlaws, Mim the dwarf, death of Beleg, coming of Glaurung 3-Nargothrond, Morwen and Nienor search for Turin, death of Glaurung, Nienor, Turin and Morwen

[@tonybaker1268]

30 seconds in and the depression already has hit.

[@Raz.C]

Yeah, as soon as I hear the name 'Turin' I start getting depressed.

[@Eowyn3Pride]

I only read it once or twice...it is THE MOST depressing of Tolkien's stories yet so revealing of humanity's fallen nature.

[@Raz.C]

@@Eowyn3Pride "Humanity's fallen nature?" I think you're misremembering the tale. It strikes me as eminently more apt to describe it as a dichotomous struggle both internal and external, each side both influencing and feeding off the other.

[@Eowyn3Pride]

@@Raz.C thank you for your intellectual insights into my lack of educational understanding that may cause me to dissect literary works into simplistic misunderstandings. Your absolutely correct, it's been a long time since I've read anything remotely enlightening.

[@Raz.C]

@@Eowyn3Pride Wow. You sound like you just want to fight. Tell you what; You go ahead, I'll catch up to you.

[@stargirlloves]

I am all for the happy-ever-after and star-crossed-lovers-but-in-the-end-love-conquers-all stories... but still, Children of Hurin is one of my favorite stories. It's just so tragically beautiful. Nienor Niniel's line at Turin's death: "Farewell oh twice beloved...." will forever make me weep.

[@richardminchin5415]

And also the dramatic irony of his marriage to his sister. You structured the vid to deal with that really well.

[@QueenRenne]

Game of Thrones has entered the chat! 😩😂💅🏾

[@bartekwesoowski1113]

I remember reading the Children of Húrin, Túrin’s life was one of the most tragic in all of Arda, Húrin’s life was no better though, imprisoned on the spikes of Thangorodrim and having to watch how helplessly the misfortunes of his children, then after being released, he goes to the mountains where Gondolin was but is denied and in anger he says ‘remember the Fen of Serech’ causing to reveal the location of Gondolin to Morgoth, unintentionally of course, a true tragedy this story is. Let us hope that through the Gift of Men, Húrin’s family are now together and finally in happiness instead of despair

[@moistmike4150]

The story of Turin is one of the most amazing plot lines in all of Tolkien's works. Tolkien was a pure genius.

[@androkles04]

One of the only books that's actually made me cry - such a tragic but gripping tale. Also, I don't know whether you deliberately skirted around the point (understandably so), but I don't think you gave enough credence to the reason for Niënor's reason to take her life. From the book: "[...] and with his death [Glaurung] the veil of his malice fell from her, and all her memory grew clearer before her, [...] neither did she forget any of those things that had befallen her since she lay on Haudh-en-Elleth. And her whole body shook with horror and anguish.[...] Then suddenly Niënor started to her feet, and stood pale as a wraith in the moon , and looked down on Túrin, and cried: 'Farewell, O twice beloved! A Túrin Turamabar turún ambartanen: master of doom by doom mastered! O happy to be dead!' Then distraught with woe and the horror that had overtaken her she fled wildly from that place; and Brandir stumbled after her, crying: 'Wait! Wait, Níniel!' One moment she paused, looking back with staring eyes. 'Wait?' she cried. 'Wait? That was ever your counsel. Would that I had heeded! But now it is too late.'" Yes, she believes Túrin is dead, but to me this reads like the overwhelming source of her anguish is the realization that she caries her brother's child - the fruit of a cursed love that she can no longer bear. Had she not learned of this, and only that Túrin was dead, it is not necessarily the case that she would have taken her own life - i.e. 'would that she had heeded' so as not to learn of this.

[@Omnilatent]

Absolutely agree. Just read that story and part this week and felt the same way.

[@Freshwater121]

Where’s Túrin been? Easy, just follow the path of tragedies and disasters.

[@Prich319]

More like follow the trail of bodies.

[@tunguskalumberjack9987]

Turin’s tale in The Silmarillion was always my favorite part of that book, and I’ve read it countless times since 1986. I have not read the “new” book version of “The Children Of Húrin”, but if it’s where all of this extra detail and lore is from, it looks like I’ve found my next book purchase! Thanks for another great video-

[@dtice69]

My favorite character in all of his works. An excellent tragic character and story that doesn't hold back anything. He, his father, his uncle and his cousin were the best of men in the first age in my opinion. And their blood flows in Aragorn, but thankfully with none of the curses.

[@Tilnaor]

When I read the Silmarillion back in time, I almost forgot all of the stories due the immense volume of time, place and caharcters. Only two remaind in lon term: the story of Beren&Lúthien and Túrin Turambar. In fact a lot of other storylines become clear to me by your map guided videos wich I binge watched the last few days. So concratulations for the 100th and you got a new subscriber (who still awaits for the 3rd age map explamation)

[@ethanpoints8735]

These and the Fingolfin v Morgoth duel.

[@bedlaskybedla6361]

Childern of Húrin is amazing story. It have such a depth a strong characters. This story really helped me to understand history of the first age. Túrin is rash in decisions, but I like that he have a good heart, which is much more important. I also like an idea that he kill Melkor with Gurthang in Dagor dagorath.

[@MrPiestro]

Loved to see him finally get revenge for his family after what Morgoth did to them.

[@steffanyschwartz7801]

If someone ever makes a Dagor Dagorath story, I hope that they have Turin kills him

[@simoncooper6752]

I recently finished reading the Children of Húrin, and even though I've now read all 3 versions of it, the tragedy of it still gets me every time. Great work as always.

[@jimpemberton]

Honestly, if anyone were going to make a TV series, I'd like to see the stories of Tuor and Turin. Aside from Beren and Luthien, and the early treachery of the Noldor, these cousins are central to understanding the First Age.

[@ThatElephantSeal]

I feel as though too many people call Turin unlucky or tragic without taking into account that despite the shadow over his thoughts that guided him to bad actions, he himself was often responsible for his own misadventure. There are several points of dialogue in the book that give an impression of a very energetic, aggressive, and prideful man. What makes Turin heroic is his noble nature and his will to do good and fight evil, but his pride and his quickness to anger ends up being his doom. When the messengers tell him that he must heed the Valar and tear down the bridge at Nargothrond his response is nothing short of insulting and arrogant. And not even barely a month after Nargothrond is burned to the ground he rashly kills the Easterlings at Broddas house, causing many deaths and for his kinsfolk in the region to be further oppressed. He does not seem to learn his lesson on humility and honestly its probably one of Tolkiens darkest works in terms of how far a great and noble man can fall due to pride and anger. Also major shout out to Andróg, most under-appreciated character in the book, mans had a massive redemption arc and no one ever seems to mention him. Starts out as probably the most dislikable bandit but ends a hero and friend.

[@litog888]

He's just mad at the world. Lost his family & kingdom/kingship, growing up with strangers who ostracized him & his kind, lost his love & friends, lust for revenge & restoration of his kingship, brimming with pride & intemperance, and remiss of his duties irreversibly & adversely affected others.

[@conangibbs]

One of the videos I was looking forward to the most, and you didn’t disappoint. Very well done! Everyone likes a happy ending, but sometimes the stories that don’t end happily ever after are the ones that resonate the most. This story always reminds me of why I love Tolkien’s world so much. Thank you!

[@quaffdowngin]

One of the reasons a movie like The Wrath of Khan is such a classic. True loss twangs the heartstrings

[@Scott_34]

The Children of Hurin is one of my absolute favorite books too! Edit: dang! I was tearing up by the end. Beautiful job!

[@damon2550]

I just cried. It always makes me happy the Tolkien was a Christian. Jesus is the Real Hero but God truly blessed Tolkien with the gift of Storytelling!

[@lopirobinson1991]

Good job at conveying how creepy Morgoth actually was. That picture with his eyes looking out for the shadows 👍

[@jeffagain7516]

JRR wrote so many incomparable compartmentalized stories within the over-arching narrative. Of them all, I've always had special love for the "Fall Of Gondolin" however the "Children Of Hurin" and "Beren and Luthien" are of equal stature. I feel so very privileged to own such stories and be able to read them at my leisure. Without a doubt, some of the greatest stories ever written, by anyone, at any time. Thank-you for giving this one, the stature and renown it so richly deserves. Dammit, I'm tearing up even writing this...

[@JacquesHsu]

I could watch this video over and over again, though it makes me heartbroken 💔. Thanks for the great work, and excellent storytelling. 👍

[@frodobaggins445]

The Children of Húrin is by far my favorite story of the First Adge, and Túrin my favorite character in the Silmarillion and one of my favorites of all.

[@ricardocortes5975]

The first video I saw of you was your depiction of the talk between Morgoth and Hurin...you made me love Middle Earth and I thank you for that. The Childer of Hurin is such an amazing tale and even though is sad it describes that not everyone in Middle Earth ends with a happy ending, such as the real world. Thank you for making this video :)

[@Desert_Kaktus]

Just finished The Silmarillion YESTERDAY and was looking for a video on Turin to help follow along. And today the video shows up. Freaky-deaky lmao

[@ThaKid14]

Easily the greatest LOTR Channel to ever exist and it's not even close. This was so nice to come to right after reading the 'Of Turin Turambar' chapter from the "Quenta Silmarillion." This tale also filled in some gaps that weren't covered in The Silmarillion. Thank you for these amazing lore videos!!

[@therambler8721]

Turin has become a recent favourite of mine of late, and his story is both amazing and tragic. Here is this brave, skillful young man who only wants to fight against evil. He's an amazing warrior who turns a band of outlaws into heroes, and his helmet alone is enough to strike fear into the hearts of Orcs. If it wasn't for Morgoth's curse and Turin's own arrogance, (of which I have no doubt both played a part in his tragedies, feeding off of and powering each other) Turin could have probably become the Aragon of his time, though more a warrior than a healer King.

[@tolkienfan328]

WoW! What an incredible video. The CoH is my favorite Tolkien story bar none. I re-read it (listen to the audio book) every year. I love how you rearranged the story so that we found out who Nienor was exactly when She and Turin did. Excellent work my friend. You earned my sub, comment, and like!!!

[@KeepExpanding]

Fantastic resumed version of one of the most tragic and heart-breaking stories of Middle Earth. You are a true fan my friend, wonderful work!

[@MarionBaggins]

One of the greatest Tragedies of Middle Earth...The Silmarillion has most of these, It's heartbreaking!

[@ransombaggins9301]

Absolutely wonderful, once again. I'm holding back tears reliving that amazing tragedy. I, too, love Lee's reading. Glad to see you recommend it. Keep up the good work! Thank you.

[@LusiaEyre]

I am surprised that Amazon didn't go for this for their show. It's like LOTR meets GOT and you can justify bare ass

[@olis5233]

I agree, I think it would be great as a 3+ hour film though, also I don't think the Tolkien estate were happy with selling the rights to the First Age stories.

[@ismailcanozdemir348]

I think that era has too many fantastic elements for an adaptation. Balrogs, dragons, werevolwes, flying ships, gods… They can’t do justice these things in live action. Maybe we will see an animation after rohan animation.

[@olis5233]

@@ismailcanozdemir348 They can absolutely do CGI for these fantastical beasts, technology has come far enough, they would just need a Marvel movie sized budget.

[@eelboy3098]

@@ismailcanozdemir348 just the children of Húrin is good for a movie. No need to show gods, the only real issue is Glaurung

[@Cristopher-S.G]

@@eelboy3098 Glaurung would be easy to make, They already made Smaug and to be honest it was one of the few good things about The Hobbit movies.

[@michaelfisher7170]

Turin broke my heart the first time I read the Silmarillion when I was 15...but then so did Beren, Luthien, Thingol, Melian, Finrod...oh crap the whole damn story broke my heart.

[@moatazabdel-hamid1498]

From Egypt with love, I can't get enough of your channel, Amazing.

[@florisv559]

Eru Iluvatar: Okay, that was tough, but hey, Melkor, this still only contributes to my greater glory.

[@nickcalxcii]

Your voice acting is actually top notch

[@orrointhewise87]

Ooofff the great Greek tragedy of Tolkien lore 😭 Congrats on the great milestones:)

[@TheMarcHicks]

Whenever I feel things are getting bad in my life, I just think of Turin & realise just how fortunate I actually am! Man, that guy could never catch a break!

[@justthinkingoutloud2538]

Doesn’t help when you instinctively kill someone every time you get upset for any reason.

[@lizzies4964]

Wow. That was an incredibly sad story. Great video and congrats on getting to 100! I'm sure it's been requested many times but I'd love to see a travels of Gollum video whenever you can get around to it!

[@Blong243]

Good job, not many want to tackle this subject with its darker nature but it's just as important as the rest of it. I've recently listened to this tale and its helpful to see it take place as well.

[@leinardesteves3987]

I wish you'd read to me Silmarillion with your style of editing and narration. It's so clear, no fancy words yet it still sounds fantastic and epic. I'd pay for an audiobook or a video of you doing so!

[@EmblemParade]

I love the artwork for the Dragon-helm as it seems to capture so much of its legacy and fate. In spite of all that happened it crowns its wearer in grandeur and valor. Relentless even until the end of time.

[@dangalfthedruid]

Your narration is fantastic, especially your reading of Glaurum’s last words.

[@johns1625]

I had to listen to the audiobook twice to really understand his story, but he's probably the greatest hero that Tolkein has ever written. He's got the coolest sword ever, an awesome family history, tragedy, glory and nearly everything else that makes a classic hero archetype.

[@linzzerr]

I get really excited when I see a 20+ minute video on your channel. Fantastic work, as always!

[@cantbetamed2210]

I dunno about you lot but Turin and Beleg's bromance set off something in my heart. I legit cried when Beleg died. It's either the greatest friendship I've read before Legolas and Gimli, or the romance that never was (not that I was expecting it. I just came to that conclusion on my third reread. Like an epiphany and one day you're just like; they could work.) My brain worked differently than when I was 12. (When I first read it.)

[@ChristianKnight-1054]

Any kind of same gender romance is against Tolkien's true intention as due to religious reasons,he believes it's one of the worst sins to commit.

[@Pedrow7H]

Amazing video, dude I just finished reading Turin’s story in the Silmarillion, watching the video filled in some gaps. I loved the art work and how you structured everything and, most important, the maps are great Good work

[@ericajones6316]

What great timing! I had just finished reading the children of hurin today. Such a good book I absolutely loved it. Sad but beautifuly put together

[@Princeofithilien]

Thank you so much for this brilliant summary, you made it so easy to follow with the maps and illustrations! I've just finished the book, and as I know you will agree, it's so brilliantly written, I found myself getting so engaged in it, I was so upset when Turin accidentally killed Beleg, and with the death of poor Finduilas... I love exploring Tolkien's worlds so much, and thankfully there's still so much to read! And to read again, and again... :D

[@freddaniel5099]

Congratulations on 100! It's been an awesome journey. Here's looking forward to the next 100! Thanks!

[@holymolythejabroni9040]

The story of the children of Hurin is like a classic Greek tragedy. And I love the idea of Turin being the one to kill Morgoth at the end of days. On another note, I understand why Tolkien waffled on Gil-Galad’s lineage. If Gil-Galad is Fingon’s son, as originally written, the High Kingship should have passed to Gil-Galad instead of Turgon after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. Moreover, considering Gil-Galad’s deeds in the SA, it makes more sense thematically to hail from the house of Finarfin instead of the house of Fingolfin.

[@bedlaskybedla6361]

But Turgon have living descendents. After his death should kingship pass to Idril. And then to Earendil and finally to Elrond. Why should be Gil-Galad the high king in this case? It makes more sense that Gil-Galad is high king because he is a son of Fingon (so he is the oldest living descendent of Fingolfin). Kingship could pass to oldest living descendent and not in straight bloodline. Another point is - why would Orodreth sent Gil-Galad to Círdan in Falas? Nargothrond was safe and hidden. If Gil-Galad woulde be Fingon's son it makes more sense, because Hithlum was in neighborhood of Angband, so it was in great danger. Fingon tried to protect his son by sending him away.

[@holymolythejabroni9040]

@@bedlaskybedla6361 Yeah it’s a bit of a knot, which is why Tolkien changed his mind several times on Gil-Galad’s parentage. But do keep in mind that the Noldor adhered to pretty strict traditional primogeniture. The only reason the high kingship passed to Fingolfin after Feanor was to mend the divide between their houses (helped in part by Fingon’s rescue of Madhros). So by their own tradition, it doesn’t make sense to pass from Fingon to Turgon if Fingon has a living son. I believe that’s one of the reasons Tolkien waffled on Gil-Galad’s lineage. The way it was originally written, the high kingship should have passed directly from Fingon to Gil-Galad after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad and skipped Turgon altogether.

[@AnnaMarianne]

It's inspired by the classic Finnish tragedy, the tale of Kullervo son of Kalervo from Kalevala!

[@untruelie2640]

@@holymolythejabroni9040 As far as I know, Eirenion/Gil-Galad was still quite young when his father (Fingon in the published version) died. He had been send to Círdan at Balar too, so he couldn't really become the effective High King. It's not an unusual thing that in times of crisis, a powerful and able uncle becomes ruler instead of his underaged nephew. I think it makes perfect sense: Gil-Galad is the rightful High King, but isn't able to rule effectively, so Turgon takes over (being the last powerful Prince of the Noldor). After the destruction of Gondolin, the High Kingship is more or less vacant until Gil-Galad takes over at the beginning of the Second Age. After his death, both the House of Fingolfin and the House of Féanor (last known member: Celebrimbor) are at an end and since both Finarfin and Finrod live in Aman, the last fully "royal" Noldor is Galadriel.

[@juniusluriuscatalus6606]

Like mentioned, it is very much inspired by fennic tradition - though probably not as old as greek stories and if so, it might be inspired in some way by the greek storytelling or have same origin. Tolkien however credited quite clearly where his inspiration came from.

[@tomaszbudziszewski9201]

I read this years ago and, again, tears appeared in my eyes as I was listening you.

[@arthurnoglak6386]

Thank Goodness for this amazing channel. I’m finally reading through the history of middle earth and this is a great resource

[@meli7408]

The way you act glaurong's line is absolutely delightful!

[@javierivantorres7668]

i love the voices you made, they are so inmersive

[@jaimy_games]

Congratulation with your 100th video and your 250K subscribers mark. This another excellent video. Absolutely breathtaking to watch. Thank you so much!

[@tarentarhu5590]

Your channel is the gift that keeps on giving.

[@CSG5151]

Congrats on 100th video, and thanks for covering Turin!

[@NerdoftheRings]

Thanks so much!

[@eljefe3864]

This. The sons of Hurin is a book ive read too many times but always struggle to explain the plot and js how much it means. Thank you.😊

[@pippomaneful]

I literally never cry with any piece of fiction, but damn this story is so beautiful I weep every time I hear it. I consider it to be Tolkien's ultimate masterpiece.

[@victormeunier9075]

The children of Hurin gets me every time. What a masterpiece.

[@CybershamanX]

The story of Túrin is indeed one of the most tragic of all the tales in the legendarium. As this poor sap keeps making mistake after mistake, it damn near broke my heart. Granted he was in particular very arrogant, but many of the things that happened often just boiled down to bad luck and/or simply being set up to fail in some instances. In particular, Glaurung wiping Nienor's mind was pretty devious. I can't remember if it was implied that he was prescient and knew that Túrin would eventually fall in love with his sister or not. But whatever the case, that was particularly soul crushing and her suicide was the last straw for the poor old mental sot. It should be mentioned that Túrin being spotted by the hidden duo of Tuor and Voronwë as he swiftly marched by them through the woods near the pools of Ivrin was something that Tolkien said just appeared in his mind at one point as if it was something that was _meant_ to happen. (Christopher Tolkien discusses how Tuor "walked out of the woods" in his father's mind when he was writing Tuor's tale.) Such powerful men who's lives were wrapped in tragedy just happening to come into such close proximity, yet not speaking with one another; with one on a mission of revenge/rescue and the other on a mission of warning. Tuor, although surrounded by tragedy finds success in almost everything he does, while Túrin is the opposite. While Tuor and Voronwë were focused and aware, Túrin had the "thousand yard stare" tunnel vision of a man hurt to the point where he could only see what was right in front of him. There's an excellent Venn diagram of the two men in an askmiddlearth.tumblr post titled "Túrin: Fate vs Free Will" (the entire post is interesting, as well). You shouldn't have a problem googling it. (I generally avoid posting URLs in KZbin comments since many channel owners have things set up to hold posts for review that include them.) At any rate, GREAT VIDEO, sir! You do such excellent research and your presentation (especially the voices!) is wonderful!

[@KS-xk2so]

Morgoth cursed Hurin's children. No matter the choices Turin made in life, they would always end up in misery and despair. By contrast Tuor was favoured by the gods. He gets one of the few happy endings in the First Age. That moment at the pools of Ivrin is very "there but for the grace of god go I" for me.

[@quinndiaz5727]

Thanks for recommending that post! Cool read. This should have more upvotes

[@CybershamanX]

@@quinndiaz5727 Most welcome! 😀

[@litog888]

Why did Turin cry: ivrin, ivrin fael ivrin? From what i recall turin was tasked by the king to watch over her but was remissed by going off to seek his mother & sister allowing the orcs to capture her. Moreover, turin was wild & broken for a while before coming to nargothrond. There finduilas calmed him. When she died, turin was inconsolable until he saw niniel by finduilas's grave who are both blonds btw. Did turin love finduilas as well though he didn't show it? Is niniel a rebound for turin to give him temporary reprieve and to have some semblance of joy/purpose? Is there a need for him to marry at all given his background? I think turin did as tolkien intended. I have most of tolkien's work & that of christopher's but certainly not the children of hurin as a separate book. Having read it more than two decades ago, the particulars are now dim except for the strong emotion i retained after.

[@lordheklsmosh9490]

If you think about it Orodreth and his family have had the most lore changes by Tolkien.

[@AnnaMarianne]

Galadriel and Celeborn, too

[@lordheklsmosh9490]

@@AnnaMarianne but celeborn had only 1 Change compared to orodreths familys 3

[@AnnaMarianne]

@@lordheklsmosh9490 Celeborn was initially a Nandor elf whose native land was Lórien, then he became a Sindarin elf from Doriath, and in the final draft he became a Teleri elf from Alqualondë. So Galadriel was first supposed to have met Celeborn in Lórien in the Second Age, then she was supposed to have met him in Doriath in the First Age, and finally she was supposed to be his cousin and have married him already in Valinor. Galadriel also went from travelling from Valinor to Beleriand through Helcaraxë to sailing from Valinor to Beleriand independently with Celeborn, and being the first Elf of Valinor to come to Middle-earth, just before Fëanor. Those are some really drastic changes.

[@zor2698]

Congrats on the 100th videos. Recently found your channel after exhausting some other channels. Very impressed. Timelines are easy to understand and I like the photo compilations in the videos. Thanks so much I watch one of these everyday!

[@NerdoftheRings]

Thanks so much! Welcome to the channel!

[@NatsuFireDragon]

I WOULD BUY ALL TOLKIEN'S AUDO BOOKS IF THEY WERE READ BY YOU

[@Instagramlessgreg247]

There is a reason I always make sure to have this book on my shelf ready to read. My favorite book I have read by Tolkien.

[@manuela1986]

Perfect timing!! I was just thinking yesterday if I am ready at last to dive into this chapter of the Silmarillion audiobook ♥️ Your videos are always so helpful!

[@astrotter]

Fantastic tale, but it's so unrelentingly tragic I sometimes have to skip it on my re-reads just for my own mental health.

[@kaoutherguelmame9572]

I should've done the same.

[@Joni_Tarvainen]

I’m not a deep Lord fan of LOTR, but these videos still makes me binge watch ’em and congrats for 100th video! I personally love how Tolkien wrote the world creation for LOTR from linguistiqs to teaching real life mythologies via more easily understood rendition. For example as far as I know, Turin’s story is based on Finnish mythology and folklore ”Kalevala” which Tolkien fell in love with. The newest book (was it Kullervo? 🤔), is by name and protagonist from Finnish folklore as well and I love that he made those drafts so well explained that these can be made. I also love that he loved Finnish language and used it as a base for elvish 😅

[@LikeWhyTF]

It’s like Game of Thrones solely based their content on “Turin like” tales

[@dayshallcomeagain]

As tragic as Turin's story is-and indeed all of his family-him being the one destined to kill Morgoth in Dagor Dagorath, not only avenging himself and his kin, but all of Arda, gives me a glimmer of hope for Turin. His story's not done yet. And when he returns,, it'll be a far happier ending for the Children of Hurin.

[@colbyboucher6391]

Well... Tolkien went back and forth on whether he liked that idea.

[@solaawodiya7360]

Damn!! This story is so deep 😢. I think this is another franchise that needs to be reflected on TV.

[@rtleitao78]

Just found your channel the other day. Your videos are great. Informative, focused. Great quality. Congratulations. I haven't been a Tolkien need for many years now, and this is a great throwback to my nerdy youth.

[@einoeliaskranat4301]

You forgot the conversation with the sword. Unique event in Tolkien lore.

[@richardminchin5415]

Damn dude! Were you holding out on Turin until you'd done 100 vids! Extraordinary restraint. And wow man - you deal with this heartbreaking tale with the solemnity and gravity it deserves. Again - a triumph.

[@richardwild76]

Yeah, the story of Túrin is no barrel of laughs, but the scene where Túrin in his last despair speaks to his sword, asking if it will take his life, and the sword answers him, agreeing to slay him, that is just spine tingling.

[@littleozarksfarmstead]

I'm not crying... my eyeballs are sweating... 😢😔 This was so beautifully created. Thank you for this retelling of the heart wrenching adventures of Túrin Turambar. Tolkien would be honored in my humblest opinion. BRAVO! 👏💗

[@logycaa]

Shakespeare is powerful in this Tolkienian tale. Kidding aside, this was one of the most incredible and amazing stories I have ever heard about in the Tolkien legendarium. Thanks Matt! This video made me decide to finally purchase and read "Children of Hurin"

[@abdulmismail]

Listening to you narrate this story brought a tear to my eye. I read "The Hobbit" in 1978 and "The Lord of the Rings" in 1982 but I could never understood (or had the patience) for "The Silmarillion". As a result, I never got around the all the follow-on books. So, these audio summaries are an absolute gem. This specific story comes across as a Shakespearean Tragedy.

[@maizee369]

The audiobook by Sir Christopher Lee (Rip) is amazing as he was a fan himself

[@willyreeves319]

i heard that when the casting people called Christopher Lee about a role in the Peter Jackson movies he said yes before knowing which part or what the pay was, he just wanted to be part of it.

[@angrypotato_fz]

Great video! This is a truly devastating story of hopeless sadness. I wonder if anyone will be eager to turn it into a depressing movie or series some day, with no happy end (I'm not sure if I'd want it to be done). It would be very fitting to have Turin redeemed by being the last slayer of Morgoth.

[@PeterJUren]

The Children of Hurin would have to be the saddest story of all time. I had tears in my eyes when I had finished.

[@bigjim2313]

Great work! Turin Turambar is a my favourite Tolkien character and Gurthang ("Yea, I will drink thy blood gladly"...) is my favourite talking sword!

[@gamerostrich5358]

obsessed with these videos, thank you!

[@isaiahclark2924]

Just finished listening to the audiobook and lord this story was just a roller coaster. Amazing on all counts, but really sad.

[@MegaPeers]

Congrats on your 100 video's. This one is a true masterpiece!!

[@Eowyn3Pride]

Geez! Matt's voice impressions are Stellar!!! I was genuinely cringy when he did Glaurung's voice! 🤯😱😁🍻❤️🧝‍♂️🧝‍♀️🧙‍♂️🥔👍🗡

[@Eowyn3Pride]

😂😂😂I forgot I watched this a year ago and commented a second time! Effect still the same! 😂😂❤❤❤