Tuor, the Man who became Immortal | Tolkien Explained

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@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think Tuor truly became immortal? Or is it merely a legend among the Elder and Edain?
@TheCinderestBlockAround
@TheCinderestBlockAround 3 жыл бұрын
In Tolkien, there are exceptions to many rules. So honestly it could go either way. But I like to believe he truly became immortal.
@lordheklsmosh9490
@lordheklsmosh9490 3 жыл бұрын
He is immortal! Because it's a cooler ending
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCinderestBlockAround Same here. I love the language Tolkien uses. That he was sundered from the fate of Men.
@andronandreimarian389
@andronandreimarian389 3 жыл бұрын
I so wish WB makes a game like shaddow of Mordor,but its huor who is a ghost.
@garytwinem5275
@garytwinem5275 3 жыл бұрын
@@lordheklsmosh9490 🎵He has inside him blood of kings!🎵
@lorekeepermeerah
@lorekeepermeerah 3 жыл бұрын
I love that even though the elves didnt listen to Ulmo, Ulmo still protected the survivors of Gondolin. Good guy ulmo.
@marcosfernandez6474
@marcosfernandez6474 3 жыл бұрын
Yupe. Also Ulmo was the only Vala who still gave a crap for Middle-Earthers after the Noldor went crazy. And he was the one who said the other Valar when the elves awakened "hey, shouldn't we leave them live their lives wherever they want?" I guess Ulmo was really the good Vala, respecting free will and helping nonetheless
@beren1898
@beren1898 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcosfernandez6474 But they can't unfortunately since if they left the elves, Melkor be like: "Hippity hoppity the elves are my property".
@ulmo5193
@ulmo5193 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcosfernandez6474 what can i say, i love elves and men and i will help them when they need me. 😊😊😊
@IudiciumInfernalum
@IudiciumInfernalum 3 жыл бұрын
@@ulmo5193 That's very cash money of you Ulmo.
@ulmo5193
@ulmo5193 3 жыл бұрын
@@IudiciumInfernalum 😉😊
@yallnallwilliams3270
@yallnallwilliams3270 3 жыл бұрын
Tuor's story is literally THE most positive ending in The Silmarillion....unlike his valiant cousin.
@englishlady9797
@englishlady9797 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Hurin was the only man who told Morgoth to basically **** off, and got cursed for his efforts.
@juanjoserodriguezvera2405
@juanjoserodriguezvera2405 2 жыл бұрын
@@englishlady9797 and the children of hurin had to oay the highest cost, very depressing, but hey Turín turambar shall one Day get his revenge and kill the vala and all evil once and for all
@TheCradM
@TheCradM 2 жыл бұрын
Aye, it’s such an absolute opposite.
@futuresonex
@futuresonex 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, his cousin's story is downright DEPRESSING!!!
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so 2 жыл бұрын
@@englishlady9797 Hurin had some massive balls on him. The ending of the Battle of Unnumbered Tears is quite literally Hurin alone vs. the endless hordes of Morgoth. Guys fights till he's buried in bodies, then is brought before Evil Incarnate himself, and basically tells him, to his face, to go eat a dick lol. Non-stop Badass!!!
@Narutoman771
@Narutoman771 3 жыл бұрын
I swear if TomDaBombadil19 stops donating, I'll riot.
@YumYum820
@YumYum820 3 жыл бұрын
I'm partial to Debbie
@Jopeymessmusic
@Jopeymessmusic 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao. He's there at the end of nearly every video. I'm beginning to think he's actually Tom bombadil. Ha ha ha.
@steve8610
@steve8610 3 жыл бұрын
He's a regular James Bissonette
@producermind9030
@producermind9030 3 жыл бұрын
@@YumYum820 man, I love that Debbie at the end. It’s like a full stop…. And Debbie.
@MisterKnightly
@MisterKnightly 3 жыл бұрын
@@steve8610 I understood this reference.
@qwertyTRiG
@qwertyTRiG 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how interconnected Tolkien's world is. That light from Eärendil's star, the last surviving Silmaril, helped the Ring bearer on his quest (and vanquished the daughter of Ungoliant) is perfect.
@tjbfox769
@tjbfox769 2 жыл бұрын
That is wild! Wow!
@ninsuhnrey
@ninsuhnrey 2 жыл бұрын
The long payback. Hardly anything touches as much as reading the destruction of the Trees. It is just brutal.
@keithstorey1623
@keithstorey1623 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking exactly the same , a life's work . Utterly amazing
@theflashgordon193
@theflashgordon193 27 күн бұрын
Wait frodon light was a silmaril 😮
@qwertyTRiG
@qwertyTRiG 27 күн бұрын
@@theflashgordon193 The light from Galadriel's "favourite star" caught in the waters of her fountain. That star is a slimaril, yes, born on the forehead of Eärendil as he sails the heavens.
@etienneporras7252
@etienneporras7252 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that a single man could create a mythos as complex and as enthralling as all the Legends of Greece, Egypt, and Scandinavia is truely awe-inspiring! Tolkien is a true genius and no one can deny that. P.S. Your narration of these stories are so BEAUTIFULLY well-done. Never stop doing this please!
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and subscribing! I have no plans to ever stop! :) I'm loving every minute of making these videos!
@jeffkaplanjr8583
@jeffkaplanjr8583 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that his son, Christopher, also spent a lifetime compiling and editing the works. Without him, the Silmarillion, Lost Tales, the Fall of Gondolin, the Children of Hurin, and others would never have been published
@etienneporras7252
@etienneporras7252 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffkaplanjr8583 Even if they weren't published, the fact that J.R.R created them at all (vertually on his own) is incredible to me. Not to mention inspiring. P.S. That's not to discredit Christopher. His devotion to his father's work is just as legendary as the work itself, no doubt about it!
@doasido5757
@doasido5757 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, he uses a lot of those mythologies as a bases for his work. He didn't create these stories, he retold these stories.
@lizardlegend42
@lizardlegend42 2 жыл бұрын
@@doasido5757 He had a lot of inspirations of course but the stories themselves are wholly unique and not analagous to anything. Parts of the stories have applicability to outside sources sure, but they are in no way at all retellings or analogies. In fact he despised merely using fiction to retell already existing stories. He very regularly criticised CS Lewis for making the Narnia series into essentially an analogy for the bible stories and wholeheartedly believed a story should stand by itself rather than lean on any of its inspirations.
@TheCinderestBlockAround
@TheCinderestBlockAround 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like there is no end to the interesting, fascinating, and beautiful things that lay in the depths of Tolkien’s books. Just when you think you’ve heard everything interesting you’re proved wrong.
@ufc990
@ufc990 2 жыл бұрын
I mean yeah but, this is Tuor bro... just the silmarrilion
@jiggadaboom
@jiggadaboom 2 жыл бұрын
If you enjoyed the hobbit and or LOTR, read The Silmarillion. There you will be able to read these stories.
@TheCinderestBlockAround
@TheCinderestBlockAround 2 жыл бұрын
@@jiggadaboom I have, and the Children of Húrin, looking for Beren and Lúthien next
@englishlady9797
@englishlady9797 2 жыл бұрын
What's even more interesting was something in Christopher Tolkien's recently released editon of hte Fall of Gondolin. There's a note that says Earendil was a name given to Christ in one very obscure old Saxon poem, and that was where Tolkien got the inspiration from.
@Ronbonbon7
@Ronbonbon7 2 жыл бұрын
If you think these are shocking you should check out what the sun and moon REALLY are.
@aarushpalit504
@aarushpalit504 3 жыл бұрын
People worship beren and luthien, aragorn and arwen, but they don't talk about these two. They are UNDERRATED
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Great point! Tuor and Idril are definitely the under-appreciated Man-Elf couple!
@dreadpirateroberts3481
@dreadpirateroberts3481 3 жыл бұрын
I know it's pretty meaningless, but I like the fact that, unlike Lúthien and Arwen, Idril only has Elven ancestry (that we know of, and there's no reason to believe otherwise). So in my book they are the truest Man-Elf couple out there.
@therealelderking5830
@therealelderking5830 3 жыл бұрын
**Aegnor and Andreth messing up in the background intensifies**
@thor30013
@thor30013 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Luthien literally *gave up* immortality to be with Beren. And iirc, Arwen *is* likened to Luthien in the text. But yeah, more love for the other man-elf couples would be nice.
@barreloffun10
@barreloffun10 3 жыл бұрын
@@thor30013 I would like to know more about Imrazor and Mithrellas.
@pplr5369
@pplr5369 3 жыл бұрын
I can't get over how even minor characters in Tolkien's world are written leaps and bounds better then a lot of modern stories/shows. Truly Tolkien was toppest of tier!
@ufc990
@ufc990 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrRenanHappy Nah...definitely not...
@clockup5878
@clockup5878 2 жыл бұрын
Minor character?
@dlxmarks
@dlxmarks 2 жыл бұрын
That's because Tolkien polished his work over and over as opposed to most of today's writers who publish a second draft and call it a day. I'm thinking of those books that are 3 times longer than they need to be and where the author's name is bigger than than the title.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын
@@dlxmarks Yeah, Tolkien's publisher was quite frustrated waiting decades for the Hobbit sequel, then they got a way too thick book for a more mature audience and had to do more work to get it split into 6 books in 3 volumes that they could afford to publish despite knowing few would buy it anyway. But at least they got lucky with the sales figures.
@annandune
@annandune 3 жыл бұрын
The stories of Tuor and Turin are two of the most beautiful of all of Tolkien's stories. Turin's story is so utterly wretched and sad, and Tuor's is full of hope. The moment where Tuor catches sight of Turin for a brief moment on his travels is like one of those poignant moments in time. You are left with the feeling that things could have somehow been different, and yet at the same time feeling as though somehow they couldn't ever have turned out differently from how they did. That Christopher chose these two stories alongside that of Beren and Luthien to make into longer works is understandable. They have a wonderfully poetic feel to them. As an aside, what is the music for the first half of the video? It is a very good choice and very atmospheric and evocative.
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so 2 жыл бұрын
The duality of their stories is fascinating. Literally a case of "There but for the grace of god go I". Tuor was favoured by the Gods, Turin cursed by them.
@spockman4250
@spockman4250 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, I think Christopher said his father considered the three of these stories to be the three “Great Tales” of the first age. They pretty much started Tolkien’s creating Middle-Earth being some of the earliest stories he wrote with early drafts of Gondolin being written on scraps in the trenches of WWI, and much of the history of the first age revolving around and culminating in them. It’s honestly a shame that Tolkien never finished and published a complete book about them considering how important they seemed to him and his writing, so it made me so happy that Christopher managed to compile his writings on them into single books as his last major contribution to his father’s writings.
@BigSarnt
@BigSarnt Жыл бұрын
@annan dune since you say that, have you read The Children of Hurin? When you read of young Turin speaking to Sador (even calling him Labadal was childish and so innocent t), it captures a great innocence and a quite poetic touch.
@yue7507
@yue7507 Жыл бұрын
Narn i Hîn Húrin - "The Tale of the Children of Húrin" was ascribed to a man named Dírhaval, a poet who lived in the Havens of Sirion in the 1st age. The word 'Narn' signifies the tale to be read as a verse, though spoken not sung.
@lizzies4964
@lizzies4964 3 жыл бұрын
Damn Elrond has the coolest family... God I'd love to see an adaptation of the fall of Gondolin. Great video as always!
@etienneporras7252
@etienneporras7252 3 жыл бұрын
That's why I am so low-grade pissed at Amazon for starting in the Second Age. The Fall of Gondolin and the events leading directly up to it would definitely one of the most dramatic and cinematic shows ever made! Edit: I love the fact Amazon is finally doing a full Tokien show, and honestly can't wait to see it!
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
That’s actually not on Amazon. They were allowed to purchase the rights to the Second Age. I get the feeling the Tolkien Estate is more protective of the First Age - with good reason. Hopefully Amazon knocks it out of the park and it opens the door for First Age stories!
@etienneporras7252
@etienneporras7252 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings Thank you for clearing that up! And like I said, I'm SUPER looking forward to the show! Even if they have to release the First Age as Second Season material it'd be MORE than worth it!
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings So far, it looks like Amazon knocked Tolkien out of the park 😢
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
Christopher refused to make a complete story if the Fall if Gondolin, so what would that look like if Bezos got his hands on the film rights? I would rather never find out.
@lukasbocker6740
@lukasbocker6740 3 жыл бұрын
Tuor is amazing. He is just as powerful as his cousin Turin. They are like the two sides of a coin. One walked the light way, joining the elves, married a princess, saved the people of Gondolin and in the end became immortal, the other walked a darker path, became an outcast for some time, but still managed to kill Glaurung (who was in the top 3 threats in the first age in my opinion). Such an amazing family!
@xhagast
@xhagast 3 жыл бұрын
Tuor was blessed while Turin was cursed. Tuor got his Elven princess, Turin's wannabe Elven lady got killed because of him. And he ended marrying his own sister. Tuor tried to save his hidden city and failed. Turin revealed his and saw it destroyed for it. Tuor's descendants became famous and kings of Elf and Man. Turin's disappeared.
@moistmike4150
@moistmike4150 3 жыл бұрын
@@xhagast Turin and his family were cursed because his captured father Hurin defied Morgoth and stayed true to the Elves when, even under great torture, he refused to disclose the location of Gondolin. Enraged at Hurin's defiance and strength of will, Morgoth put a significant portion of his Power as a Vala into the Curse on Hurin's family, but he was thereby diminished in power by that same portion. Although Turin and those in his orbit suffered terribly due to The Curse, Morgoth's power also suffered reciprocally in order to fulfill it. On its face, it may appear that Huor's line is more blessed than Hurin's, but Tolkien writes that at the world's ending, Turin and his kin will have ultimate justice for their many sufferings when, during the Battle of the Dagor Dagorath, Turin will destroy Morgoth in single combat, whereupon and his family will finally inherit the highly honored place in the world that follows which Fate had dealt them (a place of honor very dearly earned indeed).
@universalflamethrower6342
@universalflamethrower6342 3 жыл бұрын
@@xhagast Turin is known as Elf-Friend so he must have done something good to earn that title. The stories in the legendarium vary in origin. The story we get from Turin might not be the whole truth.
@kamion53
@kamion53 3 жыл бұрын
@@xhagast Turin is a kind of mix between the Finnish anti hero Kullervo and Wagner's Siegmund
@xhagast
@xhagast 3 жыл бұрын
@@kamion53 Very likely. The guy who does all he can and still gets all the trouble of the world poured on his head. A lot like Oedipus.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 3 жыл бұрын
Beren : I had to bring a Silmaril from Melkor himself in order to marrie Luthien , which resulted into me losing a hand and the death of Finrod! Tuor: That's rough, buddy!
@louisbrown4620
@louisbrown4620 3 жыл бұрын
It helped that Tuor rolled in with Ulmo’s blessing and gifts to give him some street cred.
@therealelderking5830
@therealelderking5830 3 жыл бұрын
Tuor was way hotter than Beren. That automatically exempts him from doing the whole quest thing.
@arkcliref
@arkcliref 2 жыл бұрын
@@therealelderking5830 so Aragorn (descended from both) is in the middle because Elrond's challenge isn't as insane as Thingol's?
@therealelderking5830
@therealelderking5830 2 жыл бұрын
@@arkcliref well obviously Aragorn was only moderately hot, because he still had to do a quest, just not a suicide quest (to be fair Elrond’s request for perfectly reasonable; he wanted Sauron to be vanquished and his daughter to be safe). But on the other hand, Beren was a hobo vegan with a bounty on his head. I wouldn’t let him near my daughter either.
@Pearleace
@Pearleace 2 жыл бұрын
Luthien was also half maia, not just an elf, tho.. 🤔
@MenoftheWest
@MenoftheWest 3 жыл бұрын
Great topic brother! Love hearing about this legend of the First Age.
@SAMUEL-bb2ig
@SAMUEL-bb2ig 3 жыл бұрын
oh hi
@annaanisa7388
@annaanisa7388 3 жыл бұрын
I swear, when I read the last words by Huor to Turgon I cry EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. The most beautiful words *ever* spoken in The Children of Húrin, my favorite book… 😭💔
@YumYum820
@YumYum820 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't read it but that part of the video, knowing full well he was going to die, and he lays his life down for his friend....with no fear...I hope to be as brave in my ending
@annaanisa7388
@annaanisa7388 3 жыл бұрын
@@YumYum820 Many of the companionships (whether by friend, family or marriage) in Tolkien’s books are like NO other. I wish this kind of sacrificial love were more common between people in the world nowadays… It’s becoming more like things you only read about in fantasy books….
@universalflamethrower6342
@universalflamethrower6342 3 жыл бұрын
@@annaanisa7388 Tolkiens effort was to preserve a part of the world that we lost through 500 years of modernisation. Starting with the reformation everything in the West started to fall apart. Yet I don't think we have reached the bottum just yet.
@orfeas8
@orfeas8 Ай бұрын
@@universalflamethrower6342 your words echoe stronger two years later, yet there is hope my friend. Upon the darkest of hours, heroes will be born again.
@ReconciledByFaith
@ReconciledByFaith 2 жыл бұрын
Tuor and Turin's meeting, of which Turin was unaware, is Tolkien's way of inviting his readers to compare the two cousins. The fact that Gelmir and Arminas from Cirdan also meet both brothers and discuss the differences between them with Turin in Nargothrond reinforces this intentional comparison between them. They were so similar but so different. Both royalty raised in exile by the elves, both lost their parents, both wanted revenge, both mighty warriors with a great fate ahead of them. But Turin had the greater sorrow; he knew what it was that he lost in his parents and their way of life in Dor-lomin, whereas Tuor had no memory of anything other than being raised in the caves with the elves. Turin lost his sister, his father, his mother and younger sister (as it seemed to him), his standing in Doriath, his best friend by his own hand, and eventually everything and everyone else. Perhaps most importantly and tragically though, Turin also had a different temperament where his own pride often led to the sad events that plagued him. Tuor, on the other hand, always responded with humility and wisdom to the situations that confronted him and followed the counsel of the Valar and the elves. Though his father Huor was not the eldest to receive rule in the house of Hador, his character led him to receive preeminence above Turin who was both the elder of the two and likely the mightier warrior. Tuor is what Turin could have been, apart from Morgoth's curse and his own pride. The meeting of the two happened after Turin had just failed in Nargothrond's outright assaults against Morgoth while Tuor followed different counsel and sought to secretly find his way to the hidden city of Gondolin. The darkness of the Tale of the Children of Hurin is rectified and avenged through another from the house of Hador by whom hope for all Middle Earth would come. This is what is so beautify about Tolkien's work. Though many stories in isolation seemingly lead to utter failure and despair, light breaks through and evil is defeated in the end.
@tiffanyu7144
@tiffanyu7144 Жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful to read. Well-written and great job tying all the intricacies of Tuor and Turin together.
@alessandropizzocaro7506
@alessandropizzocaro7506 3 жыл бұрын
The immensity of Tolkien's work is just staggering. So many stories perfectly melted together. Great video
@universalflamethrower6342
@universalflamethrower6342 3 жыл бұрын
His works seem to be inspired. Some Catholics strife to for his sainthood. Future generations could be talking about Saint Tolkien the patron of nerds.
@indio4-215
@indio4-215 3 жыл бұрын
So many compelling moments within Tolkien's universe, be it explicitly stated, implied, or even off-page is truly fascinating to behold, and Tuor's story is no exception. And I like to think that Tuor did indeed become immortal, for is there not an exception to every rule?
@SpaceMonkeyBoi
@SpaceMonkeyBoi 3 жыл бұрын
Tolken is definitely one of the best authors of all time. I cant think of anyone that could possibly be a rival
@DoctorMustafaSaad
@DoctorMustafaSaad 2 жыл бұрын
I loved how the two stories interconnected when Tuor passed by Turin Turambar in the wild!
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a pretty cool moment!
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um 3 жыл бұрын
"I am Tuor son of Huor of the House of Hador and the kindred of Hurin, and these names, I am told, are not unknown in the Hidden Kingdom." -- Tuor to Elemmakil in Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin
@TheMarcHicks
@TheMarcHicks 3 жыл бұрын
Tuor's brief encounter with Turin was so cool-even when I first read it in the Silmarillion over 25 years ago.
@jimmyj1548
@jimmyj1548 3 жыл бұрын
When Tolkien's words play like old memory, more than written fiction. Oh what a longing I am left with...
@bedlaskybedla6361
@bedlaskybedla6361 3 жыл бұрын
Tuor is amazing character. He is wise and brave. And he is actually only person in Silmarilion which listen to advice of wiser (Ulmo, Idril), unlike Turgon and Thingol. I also like Idril. It was awsome when she put herself in to the armor and was ready to protect her son and the city.
@thelightyears_
@thelightyears_ 3 жыл бұрын
Finally! I've been asking for this since the Elder Days.
@orrointhewise87
@orrointhewise87 3 жыл бұрын
This play by play on this character helped immensely!! The meeting between him and Ulmo needs to happen on a movie screen; someone make this happen
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
So glad this video was helpful! He’s a great character that I’d love to see on the screen someday!
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
Mo' of Ulmo. That's what we need.😁
@jamesgalbreath343
@jamesgalbreath343 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this very clear and powerful account of Tuor and his heritage. It's been a while since I read The Silmarilion, and I really appreciate this refresher!
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Glad this video was a good summary for you to recall your time in the Silmarillion!
@PJF62
@PJF62 3 жыл бұрын
Even though the story of Tuor and Idril is well known to me, I thoroughly enjoyed your narration and visual array of artwork. A wonderful account sir, take a bow.
@misaelfraga8196
@misaelfraga8196 2 жыл бұрын
Finally someone that listens to the Valar, and heeds their warnings.
@maddock9191
@maddock9191 3 жыл бұрын
I always wished Turin and Tuor would’ve become friends. Every golden boy needs a high strung friend lol. And I think Tuor would’ve balanced out Turin’s personality. Really the only character I ever envisioned being able to do that.
@valentinkambushev4968
@valentinkambushev4968 3 жыл бұрын
Turin would have brought only misery and death to Tuor . Even staying close to Turin is dangerous.
@kauetadaieski3131
@kauetadaieski3131 3 жыл бұрын
Beleg balanced Túrin very well...
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so 2 жыл бұрын
@@valentinkambushev4968 Yep. Turin was cursed to a life of pure misery. He would've only brought Tuor down. Although since Tuor was Ulmo's favourite pet, maybe he could've fought some of that bad mojo off?
@erichdalton9408
@erichdalton9408 3 жыл бұрын
The Fall of Gondolin is one of my favorite parts of the First Age. This always reminds me of Blind Guardian's song "Thorn"
@10000Winters
@10000Winters 3 жыл бұрын
Glorfindel went out like a boss. You have to respect that.
@Strutsbandage
@Strutsbandage 3 жыл бұрын
Got goosebumps when Glorfindel's name came up, after seeing his video! I loooove it that NOTR covers so many characters, so hearing more about how and when their stories collide, I get all giddy!
@johncurtis6815
@johncurtis6815 2 жыл бұрын
I love the first age mythos. Morgoth is the best villain in the history of fantasy. Awesome job as always!!!!
@sixstringblues06
@sixstringblues06 3 жыл бұрын
The story of that lineage always brings tears to my eyes. Its so beautiful.
@poilagratter2417
@poilagratter2417 Жыл бұрын
Tuor is my favorite character in Tolkien's lore (Turin not far behind). His early life, his wanderings, his quest, the events in Gondolin and the pivotal role he will play with his descendants... There's so much material to make this a mini-series.
@nathangeorge6575
@nathangeorge6575 Жыл бұрын
The dogs that follow Tuor and get sent back is actually hilarious to me. Goodest bois.
@james9609
@james9609 3 жыл бұрын
Tuor's story (and many others) is worthy of a live adaptation!
@JasperTheFriendlyGoth
@JasperTheFriendlyGoth 3 жыл бұрын
This is the one I've been waiting for the most. The travels of Tuor and the fall of Gondolin are some of my favorite stories ever told. Extra big thank you for this one!
@annaroselarsen4218
@annaroselarsen4218 3 жыл бұрын
I was so excited to see tuor was the video topic !
@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615
@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 3 жыл бұрын
" And he was upon Meglin and his wrath was terrible.." KEEP up the great work! ECTHELION!!!!
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
And thus the evil bloodline of Eol ended....
@kotarojujo2737
@kotarojujo2737 3 жыл бұрын
@@Enerdhil nah, i wouldn't call Eol "evil"
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
@@kotarojujo2737 Nande?
@orfeas8
@orfeas8 Ай бұрын
@@Enerdhil I think he was more egoistic and ignorant of the big picture and evils of the world.
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil Ай бұрын
@@orfeas8 Eöl was a loner who got lucky that Aredhel wandered into his web and got caught. She was a liberal Elf chick so she was fine with having sex with her. The result was Maeglin. Elves are supposed to have soul mates. Neither Eöl nor Aredhel were soul mates of each other. So when Maeglin does unforgivable evil that causes the destruction of a city and the deaths of thousands of Elves, that should be no surprise.
@snellmails
@snellmails 11 ай бұрын
Your reading makes me so excited for the prospect of having movies based on your exposition.
@monitor-mindtheover-void6712
@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 3 жыл бұрын
Tuor's family's story is in my opinion is one of the most interesting part of Tolkien's writing.
@simonwiggins8570
@simonwiggins8570 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing how Tolkien's work comes together so beautifully
@FredThePhoenix
@FredThePhoenix 3 жыл бұрын
The FIRST AGE is so dark for Humans... tragedies one after another... So depressing
@viharm2960
@viharm2960 3 жыл бұрын
because of videos like these i am able to zoom out and appreciate the tolkien universe. sometimes i pause these videos, or reading a book and look away and see minas tirith, the halls of mandos, the lake town, utumno, the trees, barad-dur, lives lived by various characters like legolas, strider's mom and dad, elrond, beren and luthien, galadriel etc with my mind's eyes.
@Blizzpoint
@Blizzpoint 3 жыл бұрын
The voice. The edit. The story. Nerd of the Rings deserve so much more. I enjoy those videos almost every saturday night. Thank you!
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
We are counting on those videos, Matt. Thanks for your hard work!
@joaoyochanan9927
@joaoyochanan9927 3 жыл бұрын
Wow finally LOL Túrin and Tuor are my favorite Men of the Silmarillion Bro... The paralels between him and his cousin are Awesome(but Tuor don't "hardened his heart" with his pride like Túrin did), the father of the "Choosen one"(Earendil).
@sagetmaster4
@sagetmaster4 3 жыл бұрын
So many beautiful interwoven stories, the smallest passing comment bring up so much on the other side of a brief interaction. Really a lesson in compassion for others now that I think about it. Don't judge people because somedays everyone feels like they are as cursed as Turin Turambar
@randomx8849
@randomx8849 Жыл бұрын
The amount of details and lore Tolkien made is just mind blowing and amazing!
@dayshallcomeagain
@dayshallcomeagain 2 жыл бұрын
Tuor's story, while still having some sad moments(his parents dying, being sold into slavery, and the Fall of Gondolin), still manages to be one of the most positive stories in the Silmarillion, a stark contrast to the tragic life that his cousin Turin led. Honestly, how Tolkien manages to weave both tragedy and hope together in such a beautiful and realistic way is just insane to me. Not to mention the worldbuilding is incredible. The only series that I can think of at the top of my head that can possibly rival Tolkien's worldbuilding is Star Wars, which just so happens to also feature stories of tragedy and hope. It's series like LOTR and Star Wars that really ask you what would have happened had things gone differently, which never fails to bring bittersweet feelings.
@JainaSoloB312
@JainaSoloB312 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! The themes of LotR and SW are almost identical. I've been a very passionate SW fan for my whole life, and a more casual fan of LotR, but the more I learn of Tolkien's Legendarium the more I realize how much inspiration George Lucas took from it. A huge difference of course is that while SW has had hundreds of authors to craft a massive interconnected expanded universe, Tolkien did it by himself. He was truly one of a kind, and only seems more incredible the more stories of his I read.
@-vermin-
@-vermin- 3 жыл бұрын
Man. I've read the Silmarillion a few times but you still bring clarity to my memories of it. Thank you.
@hazeldavis3176
@hazeldavis3176 2 жыл бұрын
I often weave in the evenings/overnights while listening to you tell the stories of Middle Earth. It's lovely.
@Erudiriel
@Erudiriel 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought Tuor and Idril to be such an underrated power couple!
@erikavalentina4940
@erikavalentina4940 3 жыл бұрын
Anything related about Gondolin is my favorite. I finished the book Fall of Gondolin few weeks ago and the depth of the story still linger in my heart.
@dannyboy5578
@dannyboy5578 3 жыл бұрын
Tuors story is so amazing - he is worthy of a life with in valinor
@jsteeles
@jsteeles 3 жыл бұрын
Tuor and his coming to gondolin was always my favorite Tolkien story and tuor always my favorite character. Tuor meeting voronwe on the beach is so epic
@PleaseNThankYou
@PleaseNThankYou 3 жыл бұрын
Never before such cohesive storytelling. Not kidding. I was able to follow this and make sense of the relationships without distraction. And I’m not talking about my distracting fire starter in the back yard either. He’s been kind of boring lately although he , on his own, began reading The Hobbit this week. He gets side tracked by comparing the movies so this is gonna take awhile!
@gandalfolorin-kl3pj
@gandalfolorin-kl3pj 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent summation of the story of Tuor. Namarie.
@FELSENBUCHT
@FELSENBUCHT 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I'm getting tears in my eyes... What a beautiful and truly magical story!
@nemanjavujovic1563
@nemanjavujovic1563 3 жыл бұрын
You are best lord of the rings Chanel on youtube
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! ☺️
@ashleighhaigh8795
@ashleighhaigh8795 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Perfect narration, the maps let you know where everything is happening, the art is brilliant, the artists in the fandom do amazing jobs, and all your videos end in since a satisfying way where you can tell it’s the end. I always pause there to just take everything in. Absolutely love your content, keep it up
@alifa4982
@alifa4982 2 жыл бұрын
i love the way you tell a story. it really gets my heart touched. before watching this, i didn't realize that tuor was really an amazing character. but now, i feel like i must adore this man more! and the fall of gondolin part here got me goosebumps. can you please make a video about Andreth and Aegnor? that would be so fascinating 😭
@IudiciumInfernalum
@IudiciumInfernalum 3 жыл бұрын
This story makes me happy. It's a good story. Also, what i find impressive in Tolkien's works is that every named character has a backstory, those backstories interconnect and are integral in weaving the vibrant tapestry that is the universe in which these tales take place. Everything has a part to play in the grand design. It is reminiscent of the divine.
@TheCradM
@TheCradM 3 жыл бұрын
I HATE waiting more than one week to watch one of your videos but I LOVE being able to binge a few after falling behind on purpose. It’s hard work, fighting the weekly temptations😂 I love your work man, you do Tolkien justice, and I applaud your efforts.
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got some bonus mid-week vids coming these next couple weeks, so you’ll have 2x NOTR per week for a bit!
@TheCradM
@TheCradM 3 жыл бұрын
@@NerdoftheRings YOU DAH MAN!(I do an awful job of liking the videos, I’ll work on that haha)
@AMcGrath82
@AMcGrath82 2 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed you blended both versions of *The Fall of Gondolin!* Well done.
@Sorrowfulsoull
@Sorrowfulsoull 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite stories of Arda and Middle Earth! Thanks!
@v.e.7236
@v.e.7236 3 жыл бұрын
As a 60+ yr old total LOTR geek, I really appreciate your series for its "fleshing out" of some of the more vague vains of the LOTR lore and presenting logical back-up for your theories. I also enjoyed your vid on the Blue Wizards, as they are the quintessential enigma in the LOTR landscape. He mentions their coming to Middle Erath, but says zero about them afterwards. Just strange! Why mention them at all, if you're not going to use them later on??? WTF?!? Its like a literary balk.
@EmelieWaldken
@EmelieWaldken 2 жыл бұрын
After days listening to your videos (and In Deep Geek's), I'm so invested in all the Tolkien stories and the difference between Men and Elves that the fact that Tuor might have been indeed welcomed in Valinor, only one of the Men ever to be, brought tears to my eyes.
@russrichardson991
@russrichardson991 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos rekindle my love and fascination of Tolkien’s great houses. The way these lineages meet through the ages is a kind of artistry.
@Bigreginald0323
@Bigreginald0323 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite characters! I’ve been waiting for this one.
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could get this vid for you! Tuor has been a very popular request and it was overdue!
@DoomedPaladin
@DoomedPaladin 3 жыл бұрын
Straight-up the happiest story you've told from Tolkien's writings. A happy ending, and a legacy that both achieves great height, and doesn't fade. Are there any magic items or creatures that ~don't~ get much coverage in other media (movies, games, etc.) that are in the books? You've covered rings, stones, and weapons. How about what, in D&D, would be called "wondrous items" ? Or creatures that everyone wonders about, but didn't get much more than a mention or two?
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Great idea! I've often focused on things with longer stories to tell, but I think some more bite-sized vids on lesser known items would be a fun addition to the channel!
@jiggadaboom
@jiggadaboom 2 жыл бұрын
Thats was superb, love that story bro.
@mark0551
@mark0551 3 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done. Really this video brought a tear.
@connormondock1737
@connormondock1737 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Been waiting for this one for a long time!
@mingthan7028
@mingthan7028 Жыл бұрын
Story of Tuor and Gondolin is perfect for a movie adaptation💙
@thedunadan8021
@thedunadan8021 3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful story! Wow!
@jamiegregg9211
@jamiegregg9211 3 жыл бұрын
awesome vid Matt really enjoyed it
@SnkrPrince
@SnkrPrince 3 жыл бұрын
“If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.” - Thorin Oakenshield
@Symbioticism
@Symbioticism 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really great episode. Thank you.
@avaughnimous
@avaughnimous 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. You should have many more subscribers.
@NerdoftheRings
@NerdoftheRings 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! It’s been a really incredible ride from 5k subs last October to today! Hopefully the trend continues! 😁
@kiwicoproductions2828
@kiwicoproductions2828 Жыл бұрын
Man, I was reading “Of Tuor and his coming to Gondolin” from Unfinished Tales, and, even giving my background knowledge of Tuor from the Fall of Gondolin chapter in the Silmarrilion (which really doesn’t go into much regarding his journey to Gondolin) I was struggling to keep up with all the details. This video definitely clears things up. Thank you Nerd!
@Ronbonbon7
@Ronbonbon7 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear about certain aspects in the story I have to pause and explain it to other listeners BECAUSE 3 other events ties into what’s happening in that moment of the story. It’s crazy and complex storytelling yet awesome at the same time
@BrianSmith-cn2jh
@BrianSmith-cn2jh 3 жыл бұрын
Man I love lotr, the lore is so rich and the stories are amazing and very thought of and not just written. JRR Tolkien is my favorite author and he is such and amazing world builder and lore maker.
@nightelf4860
@nightelf4860 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your awesome channel !! Your pronunciations are impressive :) Greetings from Mount Juliet (near Nashville), Tennessee
@loreebrew38
@loreebrew38 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, wonderful telling of this story.
@anonymousforagoodreason2479
@anonymousforagoodreason2479 3 жыл бұрын
You sir, have re-ignited my love for Tolkiens works and the whole universe. Ive re read the hobbit, and now I'm in the middle of the two towers, of course after watching to your entire catalog lol. So thank you my friend!
@chuckl.6425
@chuckl.6425 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video about Tuor! I thought that I read somewhere that we can yet see Earendil's flying ship & Silmaril today as the planet Venus! :)
@Shirohige4yonko
@Shirohige4yonko Жыл бұрын
You and TolkienUntangled are my favorite Tolkinians 😂. Im always listening to either one while at work or even at the gym 😂.
@joaoyochanan9927
@joaoyochanan9927 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing vídeo Bro, Tuor ( Im his age when him escape from dor lomin 19y), the tallest Man, father of "the Choosen one"(that by him the sons of Ilúvatar were saved).I think would be amazing to see him"preaching" to Turgon and Gondolin, slaying the Balrogs with Ecthelion and finally traveling to Valinor with his wife in theaters
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
This would be more than three movies.
@joaoyochanan9927
@joaoyochanan9927 3 жыл бұрын
@@Enerdhil yeah bro, I think "the Fall of Gondolin" and "Children of Húrin" would be awesome trilogys
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
@@joaoyochanan9927 The Children of Hurin is the most complete story, but it is a story of serial tragedies, one after another with very little time for fun and joy. Turin makes one catastrophic mistake after another, all because of the Curse of Morgoth. Is their really a large audience for such a story?
@Sara.m.t
@Sara.m.t 3 жыл бұрын
Your music input is always astounding!
@jeffagain7516
@jeffagain7516 3 жыл бұрын
Thank-you, so very much once again. I find your vids not only wonderfully informative and breathtakingly beautiful with art but presented in an outstanding narrative style with noted love for the subject materials. Well done Sir!
@barnabyalsop5601
@barnabyalsop5601 2 жыл бұрын
The real mystery in the story of Tuor: - How did the massive invasion force sent by Morgoth to crush Gondolin escape detection by the Eagles? Those Eagles had previously kept the area clear from all the Dark Lord's scouts and spies so it beggars belief that they would miss a stonking mass of Dragons, Balrogs and Orcs.....
@aesir1ases64
@aesir1ases64 2 жыл бұрын
finally someone found a real plot hole about those damn eagles lol
@professorx3060
@professorx3060 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they didn't want to give away their position. Cause eagles can easily kill spies, but a whole army is another thing.
@yn6215
@yn6215 Жыл бұрын
Right?!
@nicknamenescio
@nicknamenescio 3 жыл бұрын
I have heard this for the first time and, while there are countless stories in Tolkien's Legendarium of an epic and fantastically overwhelming quality, not the least the story of the Ring itself, to me personally that one, from start to finish, visually aided by these wonderful illustrations, seems to be the most perfect and moving of them all.
@MadCityBells
@MadCityBells 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished reading Tuor's story in Unfinished Tales. This is a really beautiful summary video.
@andmicbro1
@andmicbro1 2 жыл бұрын
There are so many great stories in Tolkien's world! This could be a whole movie by itself! It's amazing how many characters and legends Tolkien wrote about. And all of them are connected to things in LotR, even if it's a passing reference.
@CNMTCFilms
@CNMTCFilms 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are always sooo helpful and well made! I never skip🔥
@r1pp3rr0
@r1pp3rr0 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. Thank you.
@chrisseverin8196
@chrisseverin8196 3 жыл бұрын
I have not heard of him. Thanks for the lesson. I always look forward to the next one. 🙂
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
Then read the Silmarillion. 😁🙏
@chrisseverin8196
@chrisseverin8196 3 жыл бұрын
@@Enerdhil Couldn't get into it. Bit too heavy
@Enerdhil
@Enerdhil 3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisseverin8196 It certainly is heavy lifting. The creation of Ea. The description of the Ainur. It is very condensed but too much to memorize without a commitment of hours to learn everything. It is worth it in the end but I do remember how hard it was at the beginning.
@louisbrown4620
@louisbrown4620 3 жыл бұрын
Listen to it again and again and again. Even if it’s just to put you to bed. You’ll get through it and you’ll appreciate it later. 👍🏻
@misterp4865
@misterp4865 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! What a great story! Thank you NotR!
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