Finally GOAT Debate is Settled || Messi Vs Ronaldo

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Nerdy Fox

Nerdy Fox

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@ModernFootball866
@ModernFootball866 Жыл бұрын
This is the most forced debate of all time. Messi is clearly the better football player. Every person who understands this sport knows that .
@terefefeyssa877
@terefefeyssa877 Жыл бұрын
Tito: I totally disagree with you. Do you really know my uncle?
@ggff8385
@ggff8385 Жыл бұрын
People who have played football know that😎
@gomessylvester205
@gomessylvester205 Жыл бұрын
@@terefefeyssa877 Who ever yor uncle is, do you realy listen to him ??????🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@diegolisandror2
@diegolisandror2 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, i mean Federer vs Nadal is a fair comparison, but this one is just forced and stupid tbh
@btfpl4872
@btfpl4872 Жыл бұрын
without a doubt
@KOPShawn
@KOPShawn Жыл бұрын
"There's a huge difference between being a great player and a great goalscorer.". - by someone
@RAakaCHI-191
@RAakaCHI-191 Жыл бұрын
Messi is both, the best player and goal scorer. Messi is the best Assists player, best createdr and goal scorer.
@Stoplookingatmynameowpe
@Stoplookingatmynameowpe Жыл бұрын
_ cruyff
@coc3startricks67
@coc3startricks67 Жыл бұрын
by non other than the great johan cryuff
@Alud631
@Alud631 Жыл бұрын
@@RAakaCHI-191 what about ronaldo
@RAakaCHI-191
@RAakaCHI-191 Жыл бұрын
@entixityy CR7 is Great Goal Scorer and Good Assist provider. But Messi is just better.
@quotesforlife6560
@quotesforlife6560 Жыл бұрын
In my point of view it is not the trophies only.yes,trophies are the most valuable achievements.. But the main fact is art... And surely,surely and Again surely messi is the art,his playing activities are the art... That's why he is the magician!!! Like Maradona ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@mark7831
@mark7831 Жыл бұрын
Exactly I no my football Maradona was my mentor in 80s 90s and now my son has Messi as his idol
@zhangbenson5475
@zhangbenson5475 Жыл бұрын
can't agreed more, a race apart
@wamnicho
@wamnicho Жыл бұрын
Trophies are team achievements not individual,
@check4566
@check4566 Жыл бұрын
ONLY 9 PLAYERS IN HISTORY to have won the BIG 3 World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or 1.Lionel Messi 2.Bobby Charlton 3.Franz Beckenbauer 4.Gerd Müller 5.Paolo Rossi 6.Zinedine Zidane 7.Rivaldo 8.Ronaldinho 9.Kaká Only 2 players in history have won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or + golden boot 👟 🇦🇷 Messi 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller Only 1 player in history has won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Copa America 🏆 + Balon D’Or (7) + golden boot 👟 + 2 x Golden ball (only person with 2 since 1932) ⚽️ + IFFHS worlds best play maker ⚽️ + most man of the match awards (league and international in history ) + most international player of the tournaments awards in history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Since 1932 Most goals + assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (1,143) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (1,111) 🥉 🇵🇹 Ronaldo CR7 (1,053) Most goals + Assist in world cup history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (21) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (20) Most goals in major international tournaments (World Cup + main contintental tournaments) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (26 goals) 🥈 🇧🇷 Ronaldo R9 (25 goals) 🥉 🇦🇷 Gabriel Batistuta (23 goals) Most assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 386 assists) 🥈 🇩🇪 Thomas Muller (294) (Includes Friendlies) Most goals in a calendar year since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (91 goals 2012) 🥈 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller (85 goals 1972) 🥉 🇧🇷 Pele (75 goals 1958) Only player in history to win Man of the Match in every round at a World Cup (Groups, R16, QF, SF, F and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 ) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Only player in history to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals, final and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi --------------------- Only player in history to win Best Player, Golden Boot, most MOTMs and win the trophy in a major international tournament and to win it 🏆 (Copa America 2021) 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Not only that but to have every single statistic in his name also 👇 Stat Leaders in UEFA Euro 2021, Most goals - 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (5) Most assists - 🇨🇭 Steven Zuber (4) Most free kicks - Damsgaard (1) Most key passes - 🇮🇹 Marco Veratti (14) Most chances created - 🇧🇪 De Bruyne (16) Most successful dribbles - 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Sterling (23) Most accurate through balls -🇪🇸 Pedri (4) Most shot creating actions -🇪🇸 Pedri (27) Most goal creating actions - 🇪🇸 Pedri (5) Stat Leaders in Copa América 2021, Most goals - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (4) Most assists -🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (5) Most free kicks - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (2) Most key passes - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (22) Most chances created - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (26) Most successful dribbles-🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (36) Most goal creating actions-🇦🇷Lionel Messi (8) Most shot creating actions🇦🇷Lionel Messi(46) Most accurate through balls🇦🇷 LionelMessi(4) Most goals in 🇦🇷 Argentina history 🥇 Messi (98 goals) 🥈 Garbriel Batistuta (54 goals) 🥉 Sergio Aguero (41 goals) ------------- Most goals for a single club in history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (672) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (643) ------------- MAN OF THE MATCHES Most man of the matches in football history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 310 man of the match awards) 🥈 Second place 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (175) Since 1932 The only player to win 2 player of the tournaments and 2 golden balls at the world cup since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi The most player of the tournaments in international football since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi
@mtrajano973
@mtrajano973 Жыл бұрын
@@check4566honestly that right there should settle the debate
@guarapo66
@guarapo66 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t mention the 2 golden ball he won at World Cup in 2014 and 2022
@BallXKnowledge
@BallXKnowledge Жыл бұрын
He robbed both so it does'nt matter
@IceCold-zk9cp
@IceCold-zk9cp Жыл бұрын
@@BallXKnowledge According to FootballXEDITZ, Messi's golden balls are robbed so he must give them back😡
@cycm5
@cycm5 Жыл бұрын
Simply said robbed 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂. Jealousy is difficult to cure 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂. 5 UCL and 5 Ballon d'or by Penaldo also robbed 😭😭😭😅😅😅
@danielgedeon6454
@danielgedeon6454 Жыл бұрын
@@cycm5 look at Pessi in UCL🤡🤡🤡 invisible as always, we don’t see him when it’s not penalties
@yeet_editzofficial
@yeet_editzofficial Жыл бұрын
​@@danielgedeon6454messi has only won 1 champions League less than Ronaldo bruh and how is he invisible? In 2009 he scored a banging header in the final
@factcheck5767
@factcheck5767 Жыл бұрын
​It was over a decade ago. This year it's just been certified in the biggest of stage.
@michaeljordan310
@michaeljordan310 9 ай бұрын
it was over a decade ago cuz cr7 won 3 ucl in a row finishing the goat debate ON THE BIGGEST STAGE OF FOOTBALL, the ucl, world cup is the 2nd, and still cr7 is bigger with national teams.
@ebaka4639
@ebaka4639 9 ай бұрын
the world cup is 100 percent bigger than the ucl the world cup happens every 4 years and the ucl happens every season the world cup is clearly more prestigious.@@michaeljordan310
@ABADDON521
@ABADDON521 9 ай бұрын
​💀💀 UCL>WC @@michaeljordan310
@M_maara_chozhan2969
@M_maara_chozhan2969 9 ай бұрын
​@@michaeljordan310 Average ronaldo fan 😂😂😂....how tf UCL is ahead of world cup?
@TheCloveOne
@TheCloveOne 8 ай бұрын
​@@michaeljordan310if that makes you feel better then then ok 😂😂😂😂😂😂. This foolishness of Ronaldo's fans is turning into something else 😂😂😂
@colorin81colorado
@colorin81colorado Жыл бұрын
Messi dances with the ball in the same way Fred Astaire used to dance with Ginger Rogers! Such a classy act!
@JF..
@JF.. Жыл бұрын
Fred Astaire died June 22, 1987 and Messi was born 24 June 1987. A day after, Coincident?
@colorin81colorado
@colorin81colorado Жыл бұрын
@@JF.. wow, wow, wow! A very interesting fact!
@check4566
@check4566 Жыл бұрын
ONLY 9 PLAYERS IN HISTORY to have won the BIG 3 World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or 1.Lionel Messi 2.Bobby Charlton 3.Franz Beckenbauer 4.Gerd Müller 5.Paolo Rossi 6.Zinedine Zidane 7.Rivaldo 8.Ronaldinho 9.Kaká Only 2 players in history have won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or + golden boot 👟 🇦🇷 Messi 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller Only 1 player in history has won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Copa America 🏆 + Balon D’Or (7) + golden boot 👟 + 2 x Golden ball (only person with 2 since 1932) ⚽️ + IFFHS worlds best play maker ⚽️ + most man of the match awards (league and international in history ) + most international player of the tournaments awards in history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Since 1932 Most goals + assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (1,143) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (1,111) 🥉 🇵🇹 Ronaldo CR7 (1,053) Most goals + Assist in world cup history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (21) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (20) Most goals in major international tournaments (World Cup + main contintental tournaments) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (26 goals) 🥈 🇧🇷 Ronaldo R9 (25 goals) 🥉 🇦🇷 Gabriel Batistuta (23 goals) Most assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 386 assists) 🥈 🇩🇪 Thomas Muller (294) (Includes Friendlies) Most goals in a calendar year since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (91 goals 2012) 🥈 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller (85 goals 1972) 🥉 🇧🇷 Pele (75 goals 1958) Only player in history to win Man of the Match in every round at a World Cup (Groups, R16, QF, SF, F and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 ) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Only player in history to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals, final and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi --------------------- Only player in history to win Best Player, Golden Boot, most MOTMs and win the trophy in a major international tournament and to win it 🏆 (Copa America 2021) 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Not only that but to have every single statistic in his name also 👇 Stat Leaders in UEFA Euro 2021, Most goals - 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (5) Most assists - 🇨🇭 Steven Zuber (4) Most free kicks - Damsgaard (1) Most key passes - 🇮🇹 Marco Veratti (14) Most chances created - 🇧🇪 De Bruyne (16) Most successful dribbles - 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Sterling (23) Most accurate through balls -🇪🇸 Pedri (4) Most shot creating actions -🇪🇸 Pedri (27) Most goal creating actions - 🇪🇸 Pedri (5) Stat Leaders in Copa América 2021, Most goals - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (4) Most assists -🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (5) Most free kicks - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (2) Most key passes - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (22) Most chances created - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (26) Most successful dribbles-🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (36) Most goal creating actions-🇦🇷Lionel Messi (8) Most shot creating actions🇦🇷Lionel Messi(46) Most accurate through balls🇦🇷 LionelMessi(4) Most goals in 🇦🇷 Argentina history 🥇 Messi (98 goals) 🥈 Garbriel Batistuta (54 goals) 🥉 Sergio Aguero (41 goals) ------------- Most goals for a single club in history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (672) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (643) ------------- MAN OF THE MATCHES Most man of the matches in football history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 310 man of the match awards) 🥈 Second place 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (175) Since 1932 The only player to win 2 player of the tournaments and 2 golden balls at the world cup since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi The most player of the tournaments in international football since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi
@kssam8888
@kssam8888 Жыл бұрын
@@check4566 How many fake stats you want to create lol 😂
@check4566
@check4566 Жыл бұрын
@@kssam8888 You gonna say which ones is fake?
@GD23245
@GD23245 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo: speaks he's better Messi: Acts he's better
@dexterous0215
@dexterous0215 Жыл бұрын
👎👎👎
@naradiprabaswara8390
@naradiprabaswara8390 Жыл бұрын
@@dexterous0215 ronaldo several times has said that’s hes better then messi while messi he barely even talks about ronaldo and looking at records individual awards and stats messi is the best in all 3 of them
@dexterous0215
@dexterous0215 Жыл бұрын
@@naradiprabaswara8390 👎
@dexterous0215
@dexterous0215 Жыл бұрын
@@naradiprabaswara8390 in an interview Messi was asked where he sees Ronaldo. He replied he sees him in his own level/league/status( something like that). U don't even know what you are saying.👎
@naradiprabaswara8390
@naradiprabaswara8390 Жыл бұрын
@@dexterous0215 well then ronaldo has said many times that’s he’s better than has messi never claimed himself to the goat no,but his stats and individual awards,trophies show it not words
@chefizzy2238
@chefizzy2238 Жыл бұрын
Messi has scored hundreds of goals while also having the most assists in history, he clearly makes his team better in every aspect. Ronaldo doesn’t even have a fraction of Messi’s assists, he’s a good goal scorer unfortunately Football is more than scoring, in most other aspects of the game Messi miles better.
@Havickgamingyt
@Havickgamingyt Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure scoring a goal is the whole point of the game...
@steffandua2047
@steffandua2047 Жыл бұрын
Messi is the sole reason why goals are created. for a large minority of Ronaldo's career goals are created for him. thats the difference between those two
@anwaremritte
@anwaremritte Жыл бұрын
​@@Havickgamingyt well in that case u dont know football. For u defenders goalkeepers passers dribblers have no value. Only those who score goals have value as ccording to u.
@chefizzy2238
@chefizzy2238 Жыл бұрын
@@Havickgamingyt a lot more to the game than scoring, if you played you’d know. If it was just about scoring there be more than 2-3 goals a game
@Elistic4443d
@Elistic4443d Жыл бұрын
@@steffandua2047bro really just said messi the reason why goals are a thing😂😂
@excelsiorproducts6569
@excelsiorproducts6569 Жыл бұрын
Messi is an organizer, he is the Architect of the team, he plans everything and execute with surgical precision, he constantly draws opponents to him to create pockets of space for his teammates to move in. Ronaldo is that guy that runs in a 4 x 100m relay as the 4th runner because he wants to cross the finish line himself, guess what, he still waiting for the stick to be handed to him. Ronaldo's biggest achievement is to be compared to Messi.
@kssam8888
@kssam8888 Жыл бұрын
Messi might be the most overrated player of all time
@Averagewaterdispenser7223
@Averagewaterdispenser7223 Жыл бұрын
@@kssam8888 looks like someone has been crying since 18th December
@excelsiorproducts6569
@excelsiorproducts6569 Жыл бұрын
@@kssam8888 Looking at Messi's achievements and still be compared to the rest is the opposite of overrated, comparing the rest to Messi meaning Messi is the best, you don't compare the best to the worst, it's the other way round, to be compared to Messi is an achievement on it's own, ask CR7, he opened up in that Pierce Morgan interview, quote 'its because of Messi I became a better footballer'
@aafootballtipstv4474
@aafootballtipstv4474 Жыл бұрын
@@kssam8888 Cr7 chases Messi shadow. Messi didn't compete with anyone, he's in the league of his own. Comparing Cr7 with Messi is the most stupid thing to do. You can compare Maradona and Pele but not tapin penaldoski merchant called CRY7😁😀🤣
@giulio_yt651
@giulio_yt651 Жыл бұрын
​@@kssam8888heavy drugs spotted
@talismantheone643
@talismantheone643 Жыл бұрын
I am trying to see the rational for this debate for years and I can't see it. Only those who watch sports news only would debate that CR7 is close to Messi. Everyone who watch football knows that the debate is farcical and forced. Messi is the goat hands down. Messi is night and day better # 🐐
@funnykitten2927
@funnykitten2927 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@RAakaCHI-191
@RAakaCHI-191 Жыл бұрын
💯
@ChangeYourLife1122
@ChangeYourLife1122 Жыл бұрын
💯👌,
@gomessylvester205
@gomessylvester205 Жыл бұрын
The debate was settled in 2009 when Messi beat Ronaldo in the UCL Final. They forced it to - until Messi wins an international, though Ronaldo didn’t win an International until 2016 that too from the bench. It should have been “Till Ronaldo beats Messi in a UCL final” ! Ronaldo-holics inflated his stats with that International achievement ( bench trophy)! When Messi won the COPA they said - not as good as EURO. Now he won the WC. Now they have nothing to say - so they are trying to tarnish his achievements.
@ChangeYourLife1122
@ChangeYourLife1122 Жыл бұрын
@@gomessylvester205 well said, truth hurts
@GaryCoolCoolCutterWilson
@GaryCoolCoolCutterWilson Жыл бұрын
Cr7 is simply liked through sentiments and desire of flair. Messi is The embodiment of football genius in many aspects of the sports. Not to minimize CR7 skills. Messi has the receipts.
@kaushikravi9229
@kaushikravi9229 Жыл бұрын
Bro teaches Peter Drury
@dexterous0215
@dexterous0215 Жыл бұрын
- pessi bot
@naradiprabaswara8390
@naradiprabaswara8390 Жыл бұрын
@@dexterous0215 if messi is a bot then ronaldo is a penalty merchant
@dexterous0215
@dexterous0215 Жыл бұрын
@@naradiprabaswara8390 - pessibot
@gomessylvester205
@gomessylvester205 Жыл бұрын
@@dexterous0215 You are disastrous!
@ASDYM416
@ASDYM416 4 ай бұрын
ONLY 9 PLAYERS IN HISTORY to have won the BIG 3 World cup + Uefa Champions league + Balon D’Or 1.Lionel Messi 2.Bobby Charlton 3.Franz Beckenbauer 4.Gerd Müller 5.Paolo Rossi 6.Zinedine Zidane 7.Rivaldo 8.Ronaldinho 9.Kaká Only 2 players in history have won World cup + Uefa Champions league + Balon D’Or + golden boot 🇦🇷 Messi 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller Only 1 player in history has won World cup + Uefa Champions league + Copa America + Balon D’Or (7) + golden boot + 2 x Golden ball (only person with 2 since 1932) + IFFHS worlds best play maker + most man of the match awards (league and international in history ) + most international player of the tournaments awards in history 🇦🇷 Messi Since 1932 Most goals + assists in football history since 1932 🇦🇷 Messi (1,143) 🇧🇷 Pele (1,111) 🇵🇹 Ronaldo CR7 (1,053) Most goals + Assist in world cup history since 1932 🇦🇷 Messi (21) 🇧🇷 Pele (20) Most goals in major international tournaments (World Cup + main contintental tournaments) since 1932 🇦🇷 Messi (26 goals) 🇧🇷 Ronaldo R9 (25 goals) 🇦🇷 Gabriel Batistuta (23 goals) Most assists in football history since 1932 🇦🇷 Messi (over 386 assists) 🇩🇪 Thomas Muller (294) (Includes Friendlies) Most goals in a calendar year since 1932 🇦🇷 Messi (91 goals 2012) 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller (85 goals 1972) 🇧🇷 Pele (75 goals 1958) Only player in history to win Man of the Match in every round at a World Cup (Groups, R16, QF, SF, F and win the tournament ) since 1932 🇦🇷 Messi Only player in history to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals, final and win the tournament since 1932 🇦🇷 Messi --------------------- Only player in history to win Best Player, Golden Boot, most MOTMs and win the trophy in a major international tournament and to win it (Copa America 2021) 🇦🇷 Messi Not only that but to have every single statistic in his name also Stat Leaders in UEFA Euro 2021, Most goals - 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (5) Most assists - 🇨🇭 Steven Zuber (4) Most free kicks - Damsgaard (1) Most key passes - 🇮🇹 Marco Veratti (14) Most chances created - 🇧🇪 De Bruyne (16) Most successful dribbles - 󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Sterling (23) Most accurate through balls -🇪🇸 Pedri (4) Most shot creating actions -🇪🇸 Pedri (27) Most goal creating actions - 🇪🇸 Pedri (5) Stat Leaders in Copa América 2021, Most goals - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (4) Most assists -🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (5) Most free kicks - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (2) Most key passes - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (22) Most chances created - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (26) Most successful dribbles-🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (36) Most goal creating actions-🇦🇷Lionel Messi (8) Most shot creating actions🇦🇷Lionel Messi(46) Most accurate through balls🇦🇷 LionelMessi(4) Most goals in 🇦🇷 Argentina history Messi (98 goals) Garbriel Batistuta (54 goals) Sergio Aguero (41 goals) ------------- Most goals for a single club in history since 1932 🇦🇷 Messi (672) 🇧🇷 Pele (643) ------------- MAN OF THE MATCHES Most man of the matches in football history 🇦🇷 Messi (over 310 man of the match awards) Second place 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (175) Since 1932 The only player to win 2 player of the tournaments and 2 golden balls at the world cup since 1932 🇦🇷 Messi The most player of the tournaments in international football since 1932 🇦🇷 Messi 🌌Thank you Leo for all the memories you are the reason I play football, while other kids were trying to shoot webs and fly, I was trying get pass my freinds to score the Ankara Messi, It was never even a debate, Leo was miles ahead at almost everything, the day this man retires Is gonna be the saddest days of football, Messi, the greatest footballer of all time 💖Gracias, Leo💖🌌
@captainfalconmain6576
@captainfalconmain6576 4 ай бұрын
people forcing this debeta is embarrassing
@ChangeYourLife1122
@ChangeYourLife1122 Жыл бұрын
Guys, the goat debate never existed, Messi will stay as the goat until he dies, I respect Ronaldo but, the guy is best at finishing and physicality, but Messi is out of this world , regard their trophies and individual awards,but Messi is not a human when it comes to playing, you mentioned that Ronaldo is 142 games ahead of Messi, Messi has 792 goals and cr7 has 819 goals, that's 27 goals away from Messi, imagine if Messi was to play 142, probably he was going to have more goals than Ronaldo, but still the ratio is low , guys, according to my conclusion,Messi is the number one best player of all time and I see Ronaldo as someone who is doing he's best to reach the level of Messi, which he cannot and he will never😅, we always tell them the same thing, no one can defeat the God of football himself, so people let's stop putting Messi and cr7 as if they were on the same level, Messi is on other level that no one could describe, finish and clear 😎😎
@shaquillethomas1544
@shaquillethomas1544 Жыл бұрын
Messi has 794 goals now hes wrong in this video
@shaquillethomas1544
@shaquillethomas1544 Жыл бұрын
Messi is the Goat we all knows that
@kamilw1507
@kamilw1507 Жыл бұрын
Explain 7 goals 5 penalties then
@greninja7669
@greninja7669 Жыл бұрын
@@kamilw1507?? Cr7 has more penalty goals than messi. What r u saying
@ameeer3
@ameeer3 Жыл бұрын
@@kamilw1507 explain why we call that dude Penaldo first
@helmberteisenschnauzer7233
@helmberteisenschnauzer7233 Жыл бұрын
In terms of numbers, one thing always gets ignored when it is IMHO actually the tie breaker: Messi: 5.22 shots per goal Ronaldo: 6.43 shots per goal Paired with the minutes-per-goal stat and the goals-per-game stat the big picture becomes clear. Ronaldo took more shots per game (i.e. chances that needed to be created for him) while still scoring fewer goals per game. Add to that Messi's superior playmaking qualities (as mirrored in the number of assists) and the debate is settled, at least in terms of objective criteria. On a subjective level, there will always be many reasons to prefer one over the other. And that is fine. Christiano's achievements are beyond impressive. Anyone who tries to downplay that for the sake of some GOAT debate is just a hater and/or fanboy. Same goes for endless claims of Messi's achievements being marred by playing for Barcelona for so long and inflationary use of the term "farmer league". What a giant pile of BS. Cheers everyone.
@vutunglam3934
@vutunglam3934 Жыл бұрын
tbh, I think Messi is just better liked, stats aside, one is a humble, family man who is liked and revered by all teammates, coaches and an entire nation, while the other is arrogant and dive a lot. His diving tendency alone is enough to tarnish his legacy in my eyes.
@giannismargaris9553
@giannismargaris9553 Жыл бұрын
​@@vutunglam3934i dont think that diving hurts ronaldos legacy, but he is a butthurt person and arrigant. Plus messi is simply better
@joshiler2157
@joshiler2157 Жыл бұрын
Because the shots per goal stat is so stupid that's why lmao.
@giannismargaris9553
@giannismargaris9553 Жыл бұрын
@@joshiler2157 not really. Ronaldo takes more chances per game thats why he scores a lot.
@cosmosokpighe4962
@cosmosokpighe4962 Жыл бұрын
Messi having better shots per game shows Messi as a better and more efficient finisher. Add to that Messi still has more non-penalty goals than Ronaldo. Ronaldo just has more power, more shot power. Messi has more finesse, more precision-except on penalties. Messi can chip both with his weak foot. Not sure Ronaldo can. Yes Ronaldo is better with his head. But overall, if I'm to pick a striker of the two, I'd pick Messi.
@hefipaleburp9543
@hefipaleburp9543 Жыл бұрын
Messi is two players in one. Now he has shown the world he can do all the things he was unfairly critized for. Win big tournaments. Scoring and assisting. A leader in all sense of the word. As good as C Ronaldo is, I can't say the aforemention qualities. Messi clearly is better. Argentina campeones gracias seleccion! 🇦🇷🏆
@Ledgic-TM
@Ledgic-TM Жыл бұрын
If messi is two players in one than Ronaldo is straight up a one man army, he’s shown the ability to just become an entire team if need be, Messi has always played with other superstars
@hefipaleburp9543
@hefipaleburp9543 Жыл бұрын
@@Ledgic-TM Read what you just wrote. Analyze it. Come back corrected.
@25slyfox
@25slyfox Жыл бұрын
​@@Ledgic-TM so since he's a one man army what happened at the world cup 😂.
@MrEpic6996
@MrEpic6996 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ledgic-TMmessi is better goal scorer,better assister and better playmaker After 1000+ games and 800+ goals and 350+assists😂
@roblox-w6d6l
@roblox-w6d6l Жыл бұрын
@@Ledgic-TM better player = superstars why do you think Ronaldo started at scp Porto but Messi started at Barcelona? speaks for itself.
@theitechlab
@theitechlab Жыл бұрын
As someone who was a huge Ronaldo fan in the Real Madrid era around 2014-2015, I can say Ronaldo has really fallen off due to his primadonna nature and I can't say I'm a fan of him anymore. He is still incredibly skilled, but Messi is much humbler and isn't out to fight with coaches/teammates/staff at the clubs he plays for. The whole Man United drama really soured my opinion of him. I have a lot more respect for Messi than Ronaldo now and do think Messi is the better player overall, especially now that time has passed and we can see how Messi has evolved.
@giannismargaris9553
@giannismargaris9553 Жыл бұрын
Facts. Plus messi was always better than ronaldo
@jacobin1632
@jacobin1632 Жыл бұрын
Agree
@seo9ja572
@seo9ja572 Жыл бұрын
U based ur judgment of the best player based on their character? Talking strictly about football, Messi is still way better than Ronaldo.
@Endvi459
@Endvi459 Жыл бұрын
Now that's the real football fan not like some toxic fans can't accept the fact , well I'm Barca fan from 2009 Messi is my fav. Player he is always better but somehow I used to like Ronaldo scoring ability with some style but with his attitude overtime I don't like him anymore he loose his dignity .
@slepk7898
@slepk7898 Жыл бұрын
Bro I'm die hard United fan I became fan of United cause of Cr7 I was like obsessed with this guy when I was little I cursed Messi and so on even prayed that he lose the wc final against Germany which it happened and I was celebrating, however I was tired defending Ronaldo like seriously when are u gonna grow up I became a man before he became one it's just constant arrogance and dives and stealing teammates spotlight he acts like a little kid but he is nothing special if you take away his teammates, I understood Messi is on whole different level and I'm glad I will die Messi fan he is just a pure example of a perfect footballer and talent deserves all the success can't hate this guy anymore Ronaldo made me like him sorry.not sorry
@alenibricic9899
@alenibricic9899 9 ай бұрын
For me Messi is No. 1 vision, pass, assist, goal, dribbling, Ronaldo machine goal scorer, 2 typse of players and they are both special bc we can see perfect player, and perfect goal machine. 1.Messi 2.Ronaldo - - - - - - - - - Then the rest for sure❤
@tiagofernandes8389
@tiagofernandes8389 Жыл бұрын
Messi is Maradona's playmaking and Pelé's finishing in one player!
@check4566
@check4566 Жыл бұрын
ONLY 9 PLAYERS IN HISTORY to have won the BIG 3 World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or 1.Lionel Messi 2.Bobby Charlton 3.Franz Beckenbauer 4.Gerd Müller 5.Paolo Rossi 6.Zinedine Zidane 7.Rivaldo 8.Ronaldinho 9.Kaká Only 2 players in history have won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Balon D’Or + golden boot 👟 🇦🇷 Messi 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller Only 1 player in history has won World cup 🏆 + Uefa Champions league 🏆 + Copa America 🏆 + Balon D’Or (7) + golden boot 👟 + 2 x Golden ball (only person with 2 since 1932) ⚽️ + IFFHS worlds best play maker ⚽️ + most man of the match awards (league and international in history ) + most international player of the tournaments awards in history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Since 1932 Most goals + assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (1,143) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (1,111) 🥉 🇵🇹 Ronaldo CR7 (1,053) Most goals + Assist in world cup history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (21) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (20) Most goals in major international tournaments (World Cup + main contintental tournaments) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (26 goals) 🥈 🇧🇷 Ronaldo R9 (25 goals) 🥉 🇦🇷 Gabriel Batistuta (23 goals) Most assists in football history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 386 assists) 🥈 🇩🇪 Thomas Muller (294) (Includes Friendlies) Most goals in a calendar year since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (91 goals 2012) 🥈 🇩🇪 Gerd Muller (85 goals 1972) 🥉 🇧🇷 Pele (75 goals 1958) Only player in history to win Man of the Match in every round at a World Cup (Groups, R16, QF, SF, F and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 ) since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Only player in history to score in World Cup group stage, round of 16, quarter-finals, semi-finals, final and win the tournament 🏟️ 🏆 since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi --------------------- Only player in history to win Best Player, Golden Boot, most MOTMs and win the trophy in a major international tournament and to win it 🏆 (Copa America 2021) 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi Not only that but to have every single statistic in his name also 👇 Stat Leaders in UEFA Euro 2021, Most goals - 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (5) Most assists - 🇨🇭 Steven Zuber (4) Most free kicks - Damsgaard (1) Most key passes - 🇮🇹 Marco Veratti (14) Most chances created - 🇧🇪 De Bruyne (16) Most successful dribbles - 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Sterling (23) Most accurate through balls -🇪🇸 Pedri (4) Most shot creating actions -🇪🇸 Pedri (27) Most goal creating actions - 🇪🇸 Pedri (5) Stat Leaders in Copa América 2021, Most goals - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (4) Most assists -🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (5) Most free kicks - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (2) Most key passes - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (22) Most chances created - 🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (26) Most successful dribbles-🇦🇷 Lionel Messi (36) Most goal creating actions-🇦🇷Lionel Messi (8) Most shot creating actions🇦🇷Lionel Messi(46) Most accurate through balls🇦🇷 LionelMessi(4) Most goals in 🇦🇷 Argentina history 🥇 Messi (98 goals) 🥈 Garbriel Batistuta (54 goals) 🥉 Sergio Aguero (41 goals) ------------- Most goals for a single club in history since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (672) 🥈 🇧🇷 Pele (643) ------------- MAN OF THE MATCHES Most man of the matches in football history 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi (over 310 man of the match awards) 🥈 Second place 🇵🇹 Ronaldo (175) Since 1932 The only player to win 2 player of the tournaments and 2 golden balls at the world cup since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi The most player of the tournaments in international football since 1932 🥇 🇦🇷 Messi
@lucky_chaudhary687
@lucky_chaudhary687 3 ай бұрын
Underrated comment and you should add copa America 2024
@jorgeroldan1883
@jorgeroldan1883 Жыл бұрын
Messi without trophies would continue to be better than the rest. Just watch him play.
@sppedben6095
@sppedben6095 Жыл бұрын
Watched him play now i want to redebate but actually ronaldo wins
@giannisms1861
@giannisms1861 Жыл бұрын
​@@sppedben6095 cope
@Ledgic-TM
@Ledgic-TM Жыл бұрын
Watching them play only reinforces my belief that Ronaldo is better
@gomessylvester205
@gomessylvester205 Жыл бұрын
@@Ledgic-TM I don't watch Camel league,! As long as they were in Europe Messi was light years ahead ! 2009 was already the deciding factor and I knew there and then Ronaldo would never come close to Messi ! 2022 WC was the Testimony to my opinion formed in 2009. Ronaldo warmed the bench and Messi won the Cup and the Golden Ball !
@25slyfox
@25slyfox Жыл бұрын
​@@Ledgic-TM one player after 2014 only scores tap ins and if he can't score he doesn't do anything else on the field unlike messi who can score and create
@chokoon21
@chokoon21 Жыл бұрын
if Ronaldo didn't score a goal, he's pretty much useless. If Messi didn't score a goal, he's still the man of the match.
@kopanomoss5752
@kopanomoss5752 Жыл бұрын
Player-wise not a debate, goalscoring-wise it was a debate
@FireWordofa
@FireWordofa 4 ай бұрын
Yes..I think messi may take that too.but it's close at the very least
@shaquillethomas1544
@shaquillethomas1544 Жыл бұрын
Its 794 goals not 793,the goal he scored against Angers made it 794 and messi is the Goat,stats prove it
@manzialvinthierry3031
@manzialvinthierry3031 Жыл бұрын
tell him because this guy is a cristiano fan he can't end the debate
@kamilw1507
@kamilw1507 Жыл бұрын
Pessi
@greninja7669
@greninja7669 Жыл бұрын
@@kamilw1507 cry
@juulutpoulsen3018
@juulutpoulsen3018 Жыл бұрын
Remove all stats, and you just watch Messi. Pure art.
@shaquillethomas1544
@shaquillethomas1544 Жыл бұрын
@@manzialvinthierry3031 yea bro majority of them are just delusional
@iamovi4147
@iamovi4147 Жыл бұрын
It was never a question for me.. for me Ronaldo perhaps the most complete scorer.. cz he doesn't have any weakness in terms of scoring goals.. but Leo Messi is simply the best.. way ahead of others.. forget world cup or UCL or any awards.. someone who is undoubtedly the greatest dribbler of all time.. one of the best passers.. one of the best free kick taker .. probably the best playmaker n one of the greatest scorer aswell.. how do u wanna compare him with anyone... Leave messi alone then compare others.. basketball Michael Jordan.. cricket Sachin tendulker.. boxing Muhammad Ali.. football Leo Messi... Goat
@ujjawalsingh7530
@ujjawalsingh7530 9 ай бұрын
Ty for describing this perfectly brother. Cristiano Ronaldo for me is probably the best scorer brilliant positioning, shooting, weak foot. Messi is overall complete football player. Pretty much does everything on the pitch and at a good rate. The trophies are team achievement and should not be counted for saying about individual performance.
@andreasflicke1094
@andreasflicke1094 5 ай бұрын
Argentina fans cannot be unbiased.
@jkxclusive295
@jkxclusive295 Жыл бұрын
Messi is the GOAT. Case closed.
@spicynugget_0294
@spicynugget_0294 Жыл бұрын
Exactly how is this even a debate
@kamilw1507
@kamilw1507 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo.
@willrichdouwenga5173
@willrichdouwenga5173 Жыл бұрын
@@kamilw1507 why exactly?
@SouthJohnston
@SouthJohnston Жыл бұрын
@@willrichdouwenga5173 He has a six pack
@celsiusisbetterthanfarenheit
@celsiusisbetterthanfarenheit Жыл бұрын
he also works 10 times as hard@@SouthJohnston
@jeanlenor1858
@jeanlenor1858 4 ай бұрын
1)There was never a debate to begin with. 2)There was never a comparison to begin with. 3)The goat debate was invented by ESPN and the media. 4)Messi should have only be compared to Arjen Robben and Neymar. 5)Ronaldo is just a good goal scorer to be compared with Drogba, Tevez, Aguero, Suarez, Batistuta, Mbappe etc... That's the right comparison. 6)The greatest Ronaldo accomplishment was to be compared with Messi for 15 years. 7)The only HATE for Ronaldo is that he was too overrated for too long. 8)Stop using Messi in the same sentence with Ronaldo.
@zeeo3147
@zeeo3147 3 ай бұрын
facts
@nationfirst16
@nationfirst16 Жыл бұрын
The debate is over now , let's compare LM10 with Maradona & Pele . They belong to another level.
@andreasflicke1094
@andreasflicke1094 5 ай бұрын
These 3 compare for the 2. best in soccer history. Nobody of them achieves the number of goals compared to CR7 - despite playing in better teams. In club and in country competitions. Debate over.
@NabirMohammed-l2u
@NabirMohammed-l2u Ай бұрын
Messi >Maradona Pele = Messi Messi can be compared to legends according to raw skills base levels and technical abilities players are, cruyff, garrincha, romario, Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldinho, nazario, According to awards level he can be compared to Alfred de Stefano platini maldini now Messi also can be compared with midfielders, dribblers, assist makers, playmakers, top scorers Even in trophies Messi is higher than top 5 league clubs Messi can be compared with flair players. He is all rounder now. Ronaldo cant be compared in these except top scorer. Messi is the GOAT Ronaldo is 2nd
@Benirked472
@Benirked472 4 ай бұрын
There was never a debate Messi clearly was better
@captainfalconmain6576
@captainfalconmain6576 4 ай бұрын
yep people have low iq sadly this why the debate even started messi goated
@regugame886
@regugame886 Жыл бұрын
Lionel Messi Greatest Player Of All Time. Ronaldo really tried hard to reach Messi's level we admire his passion. But media only forcing this debate and utilizing this for long .
@sentm7362
@sentm7362 Жыл бұрын
No media is forcing its all ronaldo fans
@bigsmoke6805
@bigsmoke6805 Жыл бұрын
Such a blatant lie eh?
@akinwalebukola7189
@akinwalebukola7189 8 ай бұрын
Ronaldo is the goat
@celeschan90
@celeschan90 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Messi has a better goal ratio than Ronaldo, but don't forget that he also has a much better assist ratio. He even made more assists than anyone in history. Messi is the complete footballer. He doesn't just score, but he's amazing at creating chances. that's why he is still shining at this age.
@CALEBMALDINI-bp3qc
@CALEBMALDINI-bp3qc Жыл бұрын
The debate is over. Messi is the best
@captainfalconmain6576
@captainfalconmain6576 3 ай бұрын
it was over a while ago
@yvens_2christ
@yvens_2christ Жыл бұрын
statistically speaking Messi is the beste . Messi goal/match ratio (0.79 ) Ronaldo (0.72 ) Messi goal+assist (1144) Ronaldo (1053) Messi man of the match (308) Ronaldo (168) Messi outside the box goal (87) Ronaldo (61) Messi inside the box score (539) Ronaldo(554) Messi match played (1,004) Ronaldo (1,145) Messi scores every (103.mnt) Ronaldo (113.4 mnt) Messi total shots attempt (2,844) Ronaldo (3,447) Messi shot on target (1355) Ronaldo (1,418) Wish make a percentage of Messi (47.6%) Ronaldo (41.1%) Si Messi is even more precise with the ball Messi (3,126 )successful dribble Ronaldo (2,024) Goals chances created Messi (393) Ronaldo (176) Key passe Messi (1,324) Ronaldo (890) Assist Messi (350) Ronaldo (234) Free kick Messi (60) on (446) attempt Ronaldo (58) on (532) attempt The free kick conversion makes it Messi :(9.0%) Ronaldo:(6.2%) Now ronaldo is best at only one thing and that’s penalty 😂 Ronaldo (146/175) Messi (108/139) Ronaldo has (819) goals Messi has (794) if we get off Ronaldo penalty and Messi penalty Messi has (685) goals Ronaldo (673) while Messi still had less minute and less match’s 🤣🤣 Now I’m keep it respectful .. but the name penaldo wasn’t created for nothing im juste saying but I’m keep calling him Ronaldo And that right there was statistically why Messi is the best. So Ronaldo has 2 years advantage more game played more minute and Messi still beats him in the most important aspect of the games And to top it all the individual awards just destroyed him Messi (7)ballon d’or Ronaldo (5) ballon d’or best scorer of Europe Messi (6X )soulier d’or Ronaldo (4X )soulier d’or World Cup ballon d’or Messi (2) Ronaldo (none) The GOAT is Lionel Andres messi.
@sekiro2858
@sekiro2858 Жыл бұрын
Dude you just earned my respect
@NishanT_ACM
@NishanT_ACM Жыл бұрын
@@sekiro2858 and bro just stats messi is way more than just STATS And goals are the things that make ronaldo close to messi But MESSI IS THE GREATEST BEAUTIFIER OF THIS BEAUTIFUL GAME He is an artist YOU CAN'T WATCH RONALDO GAME AS WHOLE UNLESS IF YOU ARE TRUE FAN OF THAT TEAM IN WHICH HE PLAYS HE US MOSTLY A HIGHLIGHT PLAYER but messi he us just different he makes you stick to the game With his drribling,passes,through balls, fks and many more
@zhangbenson5475
@zhangbenson5475 Жыл бұрын
can't agreed more, only blind tells in opposite
@souravdutta6300
@souravdutta6300 Жыл бұрын
W bro !
@carnagefxmarketslayers7795
@carnagefxmarketslayers7795 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo makes 12moves to beat no one Messi makes 3 moves beats 4 to 5 players and makes it look so easy. It's not even a debate
@chikeagbo3531
@chikeagbo3531 6 ай бұрын
How can fans consider a player who has never dragged his national team to a world finals in GOAT debate? CR7 has never played in a World Cup finals, let alone win it…Messi has managed to drag his national team to the finals of six major tournaments…Four COPA America finals and two World Cup finals, Messi is truly the real GOAT….Why are people even debating this? There’s no debate here…As a former fan of CR7 and Mourinho when they were at Real Madrid, I must admit the bitter truth, Messi is way ahead of CR7…However, fans are encouraged to show respect to CR7 for what he has achieved in the game….
@captainfalconmain6576
@captainfalconmain6576 5 ай бұрын
i lone this comment
@sktan784
@sktan784 Жыл бұрын
Undeniably Messi
@ynwmelly1731
@ynwmelly1731 Жыл бұрын
Best footballer - Messi10 Best influential footballer - CR7 This is why this debat in even alive in the first place because Ronaldo is far influential than Messi therefore he has more fans and they are gonna argue even after all the statistics and games!!
@tapiwanjanji6444
@tapiwanjanji6444 Жыл бұрын
The difference between the two one is a team player while the other one is an individual player and less team work . Hard work pays for real but natural gift is a blessing that pave way for greatness . Lets appreciate the two best players who has dominated football for decades
@Veeru33
@Veeru33 Ай бұрын
I mean they both are good but theres one player who is miles above both of them, you guessed it right its Antony.
@y.bukhaosimonkonyak2945
@y.bukhaosimonkonyak2945 Жыл бұрын
Always the king will be messi
@thuptenwangdi8397
@thuptenwangdi8397 Жыл бұрын
Messi is the GOAT. The debate is over
@Dangerworld362
@Dangerworld362 Жыл бұрын
I'm Ronaldo fan but Messi IS the Real goat
@weere5542
@weere5542 Ай бұрын
To be honest cristiano should never be in discussion, he is just lucky to be in same era as Messi, otherwise obviously he is nowhere in the discussion, Pele, Maradona and Messi are the real candidates for GOAT discussion
@SolepaAmataga
@SolepaAmataga 4 ай бұрын
Hands down Messi. He plays the beautiful game beautifully. He makes it both a Science and an Art. Simply amazing and beautiful to watch. .
@mawafilee3806
@mawafilee3806 Жыл бұрын
The Goat is the world cup winner. No bias and no other contest.
@Elistic4443d
@Elistic4443d Жыл бұрын
Okay then mbappe
@SENPAI_12
@SENPAI_12 Жыл бұрын
@@Elistic4443dtill now he's not but he got the potential he will be in future if he's consistent
@rafamessi3867
@rafamessi3867 Жыл бұрын
@@Elistic4443d pendu fans becoming mbappe and pele supporters suddenly
@Elistic4443d
@Elistic4443d Жыл бұрын
@@rafamessi3867 no i am just using his logic
@dexlus7593
@dexlus7593 Жыл бұрын
@@rafamessi3867 real Ronaldo fans will support Ronaldo till he dies and won’t shift to support mbappe lol
@SnixMC
@SnixMC 5 ай бұрын
A playmaker that is more complete, achieved more things, and is better at goal scoring than a pure goal scorer. Can someone tell me how is this a debate?
@captainfalconmain6576
@captainfalconmain6576 5 ай бұрын
media penaldo
@arifahmed2512
@arifahmed2512 Жыл бұрын
CR7, and many others are World Class. Then… you have Messi Class. CR7 and others are amazing. But Messi is magic. You can describe goals scored by others. But you can’t describe a lot of what Messi does. You have to watch them. They are indescribable. The Magic Man.
@IsaK.18
@IsaK.18 11 ай бұрын
CR7
@coronerl
@coronerl Жыл бұрын
I agree with many that the debate is forced due to business money. Messi is GOD and CR7 tried to become the best and became the second, but the gap between them is clear to everybody when Messi goes past 7 defenders regularly and CR7 does some nice fashion trick just before passing the ball backwards. Messi is better footballer, better finisher, better dribbler, better passer, better teammate, less selfish, less egocentric, less polemic, and overall better person which makes me happy to see him succeed. And this last World Cup is the pinnacle of his amazing career. I would lastly propose what it could be a nice debate for CR7. Who has been the best "Ronaldo" in history? (The one that has two World cups, the one that has one World cup or the one that never played even a final?)
@RonaldoHater777
@RonaldoHater777 Жыл бұрын
I agree Messi is the goat but CR7 is the best Ronaldo ever, stop acting like a child.
@imrulkayes7937
@imrulkayes7937 Жыл бұрын
Messi won also 2 wc golden ball.. it's a dream for cr7
@BallXKnowledge
@BallXKnowledge Жыл бұрын
Nope,ronaldo doesent dream to rob awards like goldenball,ballondor,world cup.
@TheRoby9078
@TheRoby9078 Жыл бұрын
@@BallXKnowledge f You crying ueeeeeeeeeeeee
@sickomode9523
@sickomode9523 Жыл бұрын
@@BallXKnowledge robbed ok 👍 messi is the Goat.
@cycm5
@cycm5 Жыл бұрын
@@BallXKnowledge .. . Its easy to say rob bcoz ur side was lost 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂. Penaldo also won robbed 5 ucl n 5 ballon d'or🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤑🤑🤑
@BallXKnowledge
@BallXKnowledge Жыл бұрын
@@cycm5 first you should fix your vocabulary. both should have 5 ballondors
@D.Norton
@D.Norton Жыл бұрын
MESSI is by far the best, the greatest footballer of all time. The only one in football history to have won EVERYTHING, BOTH INDIVIDUALLY & COLLECTIVELY.
@Omega-dv5tn
@Omega-dv5tn Жыл бұрын
The debate will never end . The fact is that Messi Fans will never understand Ronaldo fans logic and also Ronaldo fans will never understand Messi fans logic ❤ Both of them are the GOATs🐐
@TheScholesEra
@TheScholesEra 11 ай бұрын
Some messi fans have no respect for other great players, I'm a united fan and I appreciate messi, but this online messi cult has convinced some people that ronaldo is a bad player who camps in the penalty box waiting for a tap in.
@maksudurrahman2067
@maksudurrahman2067 9 ай бұрын
This is so fucking old shit bro, say something new about messi after winning World Cup and pls don’t even compare Messi with Ronaldo. It doesn’t worth comparing. All because Messi is way way better and above than CR7. Debate should be over by now.
@dynamite_luis3937
@dynamite_luis3937 Жыл бұрын
lol, The Brazilian Ronaldo de Lima and Ronaldinho were better than portugal Ronaldo. Please stop make stupid comparisons because Messi is in a league of his own.
@kssam8888
@kssam8888 Жыл бұрын
They were better than hgh goblin too
@andreasflicke1094
@andreasflicke1094 5 ай бұрын
... because Messi has less goals and less UCL titles AND less UCL goals AND UCL assists than CR7 --- despite playing in the No. 1 / No. 2 team for over 2 decades?? Great player, must be greater than CR7. Irony off.
@cankumru682
@cankumru682 Жыл бұрын
The Goat debate is over for sure, not only has Messi has a higher goal per match average across all competitions both national and international 0.81 over 0.71 but more importantly Messi has a significant higher assists per match average 0.35 over Ronaldo’s 0.20 finally Messi won everything a individual football player can win…international level -> FIFA under 21 worldcup in 2005, Olympic Gold medal 2008, Copa America 2021, Finalissima vs Italy 2022, FIFA Worldcup 2022, 7 ballon d’or (8 to be added for 2022 performance) , MVP FIFA 2022, Golden boot 2014, National level: 7 golden boots , Uefa player of the year x 4, 10 league titles, Spanish cup, Spanish supercup, uefa supercup, Barcelona league worldcup , best player Spanish league, I guess Ronaldo knows the debate is over as well. And for the real soccer fans, it is not how many goals you score but a how you score. Almost 80% of all Messi goals are individual works of art, compared to Ronaldo, percentage which by experts is put in the range of approx 29%
@RJL7878
@RJL7878 Жыл бұрын
This Debate is still insane
@GoLetItInGoBagItUp
@GoLetItInGoBagItUp Жыл бұрын
*** Number of career penalty goals *** - RONALDO: 151 - MESSI: 109 *** World Cup goal contributions excluding penalty goals *** - RONALDO: 7 goal contributions in 22 appearances (not including his 3 penalty goals) - MESSI: 17 goal contributions in 26 appearances (not including his 4 penalty goals) *** Copa America/European Championship goal contributions excluding penalty goals *** - RONALDO: 17 goal contributions in 25 appearances (not including his 3 penalty goals) - MESSI: 27 goal contributions in 34 appearances (not including his 3 penalty goals) *** Goal contributions excluding penalty goals in World Cup/Copa America/European Championship KNOCKOUT games *** - RONALDO: 5 goal contributions in 19 knockout stage appearances (not including penalty goals) - MESSI: 25 goal contributions in 28 knockout stage appearances (not including penalty goals) These numbers tell us something about why Ronaldo has helped his national team reach only 2 European Championship/World Cup finals (and played only in one that he lost and made 0 goal contributions) while Messi has helped his teams reach 6 Copa America/World Cup finals and won 2. Messi has 1 goal contribution per World Cup/Copa America knockout game, while Ronaldo has 0.26 goal contributions per World Cup/European Championship knockout game 😂😂😂😂
@chhayasingh9034
@chhayasingh9034 3 ай бұрын
Messi❌ Ronaldo❌ Goat🐐🗿✅
@ERITREANLION-oz9lp
@ERITREANLION-oz9lp Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo and Messi honestly gave the football of the world a real battle and everyone's heartbeat with them for two decades. But the Goat debate never existed cause we were watching the things that we never seen before from Messi which is impossible to believe if the moments were not filmed and Ronaldo was showing what other players can do but with much hard work. As the world was defending Ronaldo by criticizing Messi at his national career especially after Ronaldo won the Euro 2016. So, Messi was calm and made these debates to settle by winning over the South America champions Brazil at Copa America, the Euro champions Italy and finally the World champions France at the world cup in a row. After this there is nothing to say except accepting the real GOAT and respecting Ronaldo because they gave football something special for history.
@cosmosokpighe4962
@cosmosokpighe4962 Жыл бұрын
In simple Summary, Ronaldo does things other great footballers can do, goals, long shots, headers, acrobatics and all. But he does them more consistently than everyone else. Messi does things that makes you ask questions, that makes you wonder, that are unheard of, that has never been seen or done before, that makes you wonder if you'd ever see them again. Messi, I have never seen a goal scorer with so many assists than a playmaker. I have never seen a playmaker with so many goals than a striker.
@TheScholesEra
@TheScholesEra 11 ай бұрын
Good comment, too much disrespect to ronaldo in this comment section.
@andreasflicke1094
@andreasflicke1094 5 ай бұрын
Playing for a country with superior players doesn't make you the goat.
@_kwasiokyere1446
@_kwasiokyere1446 Жыл бұрын
This isn’t a debate please. No player should be compared to Messi respectfully.
@RatnaRoy-sm9br
@RatnaRoy-sm9br 8 ай бұрын
Who is the top goal scorer of all time ?? The debate is not ended
@andreasflicke1094
@andreasflicke1094 5 ай бұрын
@@RatnaRoy-sm9br And even without playing at No. 1 / No. 2 teams of the world for 21 years straight. This fact alone (almost) ends the debate in favour of CR7.
@AriaTheGoat
@AriaTheGoat Жыл бұрын
MESSI IS DEFINITELY THE GOAT. He is better in nearly every category. Goals are the main thing that keeps Ronaldo in this conversation but he played much more games. When it is all set and done messi may have more goals and a better goal ratio. Ronaldo is amazing but messi is just a little bit better.🤝
@sandipalemagar8494
@sandipalemagar8494 10 ай бұрын
messi is the best forevr
@tanjeerg
@tanjeerg Ай бұрын
Somehow every Messi fan thinks that fans of all other players don't understand football, talk about dumb toxic GF mentality
@mohamedjellekatimba5080
@mohamedjellekatimba5080 Жыл бұрын
No doubt, Messi is the real Goat in Football history. Thank you,
@lucky_chaudhary687
@lucky_chaudhary687 3 ай бұрын
Yes uncle ❤️
@gh0stop24
@gh0stop24 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo fans who respect messi and have still like ronaldo while accepting messi as the GOAT are few to none Even after all the statistucs and clearly better play and trophies they would still call it robbed or rigged Or how ronaldo had injuries or how the invisible media is abusing ronaldo They never got an argument
@TheIronChancellor
@TheIronChancellor Жыл бұрын
MESSI IS CLEAR
@cristiano7ronaldo599
@cristiano7ronaldo599 Ай бұрын
Messi is a barca product, if he was so good in play making then why didn't he achieve anything with psg ? Cause he was too dependent on his barca team. Cristiano is a football product, he played with several teams he set records in each club except for Sporting fc.
@anikchaudhury11
@anikchaudhury11 Жыл бұрын
Messi 🥹❤️💪🏼
@simplyben2278
@simplyben2278 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy really. When ronaldo had more balandor his fan didn't complain. As soon as messi had more it was rigged. Pele said in an older video cr7 was better than messi. They praised pele. Then in a later video he said messi better. Literally people saying pele is a nobody who didn't play against good players. World Cup rigged. UCL aslo rigged. They talk about the paying referee part but nobody is talking about Juventus salary scandal. Where Ronaldo name Came about. Fifa best player award rigged? How ? It was voted by players and managers. Don't tell me messi bought the players and managers.
@Top10facts569
@Top10facts569 Жыл бұрын
No doubt Leo is the GOAT
@chetanraikar7055
@chetanraikar7055 Жыл бұрын
Agreed bro Messi the GOAT 🐐
@loneranger0602
@loneranger0602 Жыл бұрын
Facts: Clear winner is Messi ❤
@robertrodes1546
@robertrodes1546 Жыл бұрын
About equal: goals scored, goals per game, pace Messi: assists, dribbling, passing, free kicks, left foot Ronaldo: penalties, right foot, diving
@andreasflicke1094
@andreasflicke1094 5 ай бұрын
The fact that Portugal is a worse team than Argentina and Messi played in the No. 1 / No. 2 club for 20+ years is forgotten by only comparing stats. A soccer coach takes this into account. An average Online personality may not.
@shostenesavannahj44
@shostenesavannahj44 Жыл бұрын
Messi goat
@wckfrenando7303
@wckfrenando7303 Жыл бұрын
Real Goat One & Only Messi ❤❤❤❤
@ManuelPersona24
@ManuelPersona24 Жыл бұрын
The Champions League is a joke compared to the World Cup! The debate is 100% over, but do not forget Pelé!
@ADK_EDITZ
@ADK_EDITZ Жыл бұрын
Ronaldo better player❤️
@BluesFanUK_
@BluesFanUK_ 10 ай бұрын
Comparing Ronaldo to Messi is like comparing Haaland to Mbappe today. Haaland's an absolute goal scoring machine, but simply not in the same stratosphere as Mbappe in terms of what he can do with the ball away from goal.
@marcosdeto9409
@marcosdeto9409 Жыл бұрын
To say who is better between Messi and Ronaldo you don’t need stats, you need eyes. And Messi is overwhelmingly better. The real debate should be between Messi, Maradona and Pele.
@kssam8888
@kssam8888 Жыл бұрын
Eyes said Ronaldo better He's way more complete player than Messi. Messi is just a g/a
@BlitzThePesGuy
@BlitzThePesGuy Жыл бұрын
@@kssam8888 🧢
@mercurialnemesis3120
@mercurialnemesis3120 Жыл бұрын
@@kssam8888 can ronaldo run the midfield and a game? without camping in the box theres literally nothing to his game
@skyriselimited7
@skyriselimited7 6 ай бұрын
​@@kssam8888 wtf😂
@randomguy8647
@randomguy8647 5 ай бұрын
​@@mercurialnemesis3120my nigga ronaldo literally scored goals from 40 yards out
@pidhasuriyawong5337
@pidhasuriyawong5337 Жыл бұрын
CR7 is a 🐐!!! But Messi is the GOAT of all GOATS !! CR7 is a king !!! But Messi is the King of all Kings !! End of debate....
@El_Diego86
@El_Diego86 Жыл бұрын
Messi True GOAT. 🐐❤️🇦🇷
@samitmagar522
@samitmagar522 Жыл бұрын
GOAT debate is officially over. Leo Messi is the greatest player in the history of world football🐐
@tushitatrivedi1818
@tushitatrivedi1818 11 ай бұрын
although there was never a debate. but real debate was between pele and messi, and messi proved with the world cup. pele won the 3rd world cup by literally being irrelevant, it was brazilian great team, but yeah pele is definitely the 2nd best , messi is the GOAT
@paul.greenlaw
@paul.greenlaw 10 ай бұрын
Messi and Ronaldo have given more to football than many in history. For 10 years, they provided us with the best football ever seen. That is what we all should appreciate. Individual trophies will always be unfair. This is a team sport. We must set aside narcissism and stop ranking these players above each other. It's like debating whether a Da Vinci painting is better than a Picasso one. We all appreciate based on our perspective and knowledge.
@Zigoeditz
@Zigoeditz 4 ай бұрын
Listen now. Lets all agree. The biggest argument Ronaldo fans have is "but ronaldo is a better goalscorer" like bro,Messi litterally scores more goals per game. And that's not even talking about all the assists and chances he provides. Like Ronaldo fans are straight up delusional and most of Ronaldo fans i know dont even watch football. Even Ronaldo fans deep down know Messi is better but don't show it,because they cant stand it,they just cant. Messi is the GOAT,and Ronaldo is the only player in the last decade that has even came close to him. So now people are trying to make controversy saying Ronaldo is better but in reality.Messi is the GOAT,and Ronaldo is second,then everyone else.And Ronaldo fans like to say "oh well but he has great mentality" like are you guys that delusional? He HAD great mentality know he likes breaking kids phones,leaving the stadium early when his team is losing and disrespecting an entire club. No player is more important than an entire club,no matter how great the player is. Club comes first,then coach,then the players.And keep in mind i said PLAYERS,not Ronaldo specifically. Because all players are equal,no player should be allowed something the others arent allowed to do. For example: Not coming to training. And a lot of people are attacking Erik Ten Hag when in reality Manchester United has been better since Ten Hag,and thats a fact. You wanna know why? Because he treats all players equally. And someone selfish like Ronaldo is angry that he doesnt get privilege now.. So basically,Ten Hag proved the point "Manager is always more important thsn player,no matter how great a player may be,the coach comes first." Let me end this on a quote "Ronaldo needs other players to provide for him and get him chances to score,but Messi can dictate an entire game for his club",and that's the main difference. Messi is the undisputed G.O.A.T 🐐.
@akash2100
@akash2100 Жыл бұрын
You don't have to see stats.. You have to see how he plays... Messi always way ahead..
@bigsmoke6805
@bigsmoke6805 Жыл бұрын
Both manner of playing and what they gave to their teams - Ronaldo is clear.
@19nope
@19nope Жыл бұрын
the stats say messi is better too
@akash2100
@akash2100 Жыл бұрын
@@bigsmoke6805 Yes Ronaldo gave WC to his team..
@slepk7898
@slepk7898 Жыл бұрын
​@@bigsmoke6805ye gave dives and arrogance
@bigsmoke6805
@bigsmoke6805 Жыл бұрын
@@akash2100 So you want to say a month-long competition matters more than *five* of the most difficult trophy in the world to obtain?
@animeshubo18
@animeshubo18 Жыл бұрын
messi won the world cup debate is over all respect for cr7 but you want realise that..now messi is the official G.O.A.T of football ❤️
@realtalkcontent2404
@realtalkcontent2404 Жыл бұрын
Messi is better
@Malxndu
@Malxndu Жыл бұрын
messi is the real goat
@Dus_loe_Sokasik_bngst
@Dus_loe_Sokasik_bngst Жыл бұрын
As Madrid fans Messi clearly
@Kiluei
@Kiluei Жыл бұрын
Most unbiased and fair: Messi has the best goalscoring ratio of all-time. Most assists as well. Ronaldo has the most goals atm but needed more games than Messi to reach that amount. But even when you remove the goals out of the equation, you'll see Messi dominate every stat. He has more successful dribbles, passes, assists. When you apply the eye test Messi is also the better player. He can score, but also build up towards a goal. He can dictate the game but also finish it. Ronaldo is a great player, one of the best ever. He has lots of flair, amazing skill moves in his prime, a big personality and scored so much. Also assisted a lot (but not as much as Messi and not of the quality of Messi's assists). When you look at awards and titles, Messi also wins. He has a world cup, most trophies in history of the game. Messi has 7 balon d'Ors, the most ever. He scored 91 goals in a year. Nobody has ever reached that number and he didn't do that as a classical striker. He also assisted a lot. Only competition Ronaldo has won more than Messi is the CL, but he only has 1 more CL to his name. You can also say as an argument against that, that Messi beat Ronaldo a bunch in the CL as well. Messi's Barca beat Real in the CL and United in a final. With Messi being very important and incredible in both those matches. Messi has also humiliated Ronaldo's Real quite a bunch. In their head to head confrontations Messi won the most and displayed the better football. And at the end of the day you shouldn't even compare trophies or the Balon d'Or. Because you need teammates to secure that. Just use your eyes. Messi outdribbless entire defences by himself. Prime Messi had to be guarded by the entire team. While prime Ronaldo was being covered by 2/3 players. I've seen Dani Alves hold his own against Ronaldo in 1 on 1s in El Classico. At the moment Messi just had 1 player in front of him it was game over. Messi dribbles better, passes better, gives more complex passes, has better vision, is deceptively strong, the strongest defenders failed to push him off the ball. Seen Casemiro struggle to use his body against him. Even at 35 Gvardiol was unable to push him off the ball, Messi is agile, fast on the ball, always makes the right decisions, in his prime he'd also press like no other, re-cover the ball, help out in defence, he was a powerhouse. Its so painfully clear to me how much better Messi is. It was already clear to me in 2009 after following him for 4 years since 2005. Back in 2009 me and my friends would say he merely has to prove himself for a year or 2-4 more and his legacy would be cemented. Look at us now. He went above and beyond.
@OnlyOneFootball-og9rc
@OnlyOneFootball-og9rc Жыл бұрын
Fax
@SamuelValentino-q8v
@SamuelValentino-q8v 11 ай бұрын
Thanks bro😂
@Rodney231
@Rodney231 Жыл бұрын
Lol even when they attempt to exclude important statics like Assists .... Messi still comes out on top. 😂😂😂
@bergrugu
@bergrugu Жыл бұрын
Let's be fair tho; For me Messi is the goat and always has been but Ronaldo was a hell of a player and deserves respect. He is not number one but definitely number two.
@steven_wise
@steven_wise Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@matsungtemjen3999
@matsungtemjen3999 Жыл бұрын
​@@steven_wiseI'm a Ronaldo fan too bro😅. Our life is miserable now😂
@seo9ja572
@seo9ja572 Жыл бұрын
​@@matsungtemjen3999lmao 😅
@nikitamandawat
@nikitamandawat Жыл бұрын
Not number 2. There were players who played better football than him. Hes a great goalscorer though.
@kingjahad100
@kingjahad100 11 ай бұрын
​@@matsungtemjen3999Nice try Messi fan
@thatguy23-21
@thatguy23-21 10 ай бұрын
Messi is the GOAT 🐐 because of his qualities both on and off the pitch . He is a true sportsman and an example to the coming generation.
@MITIERRA_BLANCO
@MITIERRA_BLANCO 11 ай бұрын
Ronaldo is always 🐐🇵🇹
@davidlynch1263
@davidlynch1263 Жыл бұрын
Reality (League+International): Dribble: Messi 3019; R7 1646; Non-penalty Goal: Messi 686; R7: 673; Assist : Messi: 393; R7: 176; Key pass: Messi: 1325; R7: 890; THROUGHBALLS: Messi: 430; R7: 81; World Cup Best: Messi: 1 Champion 1 Runner-up; R7: Semi-final Messi had 796goals in Only 1004 games, while R7 had 819 goals in 1145 games.Goal efficiency: Messi better.
@jgosal1981
@jgosal1981 Жыл бұрын
And in less games played
@thegamingwolf73179
@thegamingwolf73179 Жыл бұрын
Ronaldos best World Cup is actually semi finals
@davidlynch1263
@davidlynch1263 Жыл бұрын
@@thegamingwolf73179 2006 ? R7 is not the captain.
@thegamingwolf73179
@thegamingwolf73179 Жыл бұрын
You didn’t say anything about captian
@davidlynch1263
@davidlynch1263 Жыл бұрын
@@thegamingwolf73179 ok amended
@juanromero7189
@juanromero7189 Жыл бұрын
You forgot to highlight that, while Messi was the best player in the world cup, Ronaldo had a disappointed tournament. And Messi still playing at the highest level. He has the chance to win a Champions League title and another balon d'or. Ronaldo, well... Ronaldo has been great, don't take me wrong. But the debate between who's better between them is over. And of course the debate between Messi and Maradona is also over. The debate between Pelé and Messi is another kind of monster.
@bigsmoke6805
@bigsmoke6805 Жыл бұрын
This is called recency bias. Ronaldo has proven everything, including the most competitive football tournament - UCL. WC or no WC, Messi can't reach him.
@samplingmastersxlr8660
@samplingmastersxlr8660 Жыл бұрын
with no WC he has failed and flopped period , the UCL doesn't compare to a WC @@bigsmoke6805
@andreasflicke1094
@andreasflicke1094 5 ай бұрын
@@bigsmoke6805 Finally true words. Rare to find underneath a video of Messi fans :)
@Zyfiem
@Zyfiem 4 ай бұрын
​@@bigsmoke6805Lmfao all ronaldo has over Messi is goals and physicality and Messi also won the ucl so stop acting like cr7 is the only one that has won it. Messi also has far better performace with 100 less games than ronaldo but close to him in goals while being a playmaker. Just accept reality and stop being in denial
@jimmyokiya3240
@jimmyokiya3240 Жыл бұрын
The UNDISPUTED GOAT, Lionel Messi!!
@yogeshcyr31
@yogeshcyr31 10 ай бұрын
People who say Messi is the GOAT after World cup win need to realise Pele had more world cups, Maradona was more Heroic than anyone else, Messi is the most sublime, Cristiano was the better goalscorer, for each his own
@RyanCharlton-bp7wi
@RyanCharlton-bp7wi Жыл бұрын
Ranaldo and Messi is best
@AnaMaria-wt2nx
@AnaMaria-wt2nx 8 ай бұрын
I'm the real Goat🐐
@aghori1849
@aghori1849 Жыл бұрын
No doubt greatest of all times Messi 🔥
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