What job did you have before this because even on your first video everything from the editing to the script and thumbnail were top notch
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Ironically all jobs had nothing to do with video, all various management/leadership development positions. But it taught me attention to detail
@cardsfanboy4 жыл бұрын
I do have to say I have one major disagreement... Sugar man might be great, but Sauron is absolutely a much better figure..... heck I think Wendigo is better.... and that is ignoring figures like Annihilus., Arnim Zola, or Mojo... not even sure how Blob or Sugar man made this list to be honest.
@williegray19954 жыл бұрын
I know its not in person but if you look for a Glen Webb (rip) video he had several apocalypse bafs he had a black version.
@brianpetrucelli75844 жыл бұрын
1. The Sentinel only took six figures to build as Mystique and Omega Red came with the same lower torso piece. 2. Fin Fang Foom took eight figure to make, not nine
@furiousd364 жыл бұрын
I like the Kingpin BAF but I feel it’s a little devalued now that they came out with the retro Kingpin figure.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
I like him too, but there is something about the jacket I don’t love
@asgads Жыл бұрын
Venompool is still the best designed one, he looks incredible. In terms of FOMO Galactus is my pick
@theramblinmahoney23164 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna say cause no one else is willing to... I love the way Matt moves his mouth when he talks.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Thanks? Lol
@jamesmcclaren97593 жыл бұрын
Someone had to say it and now I’m feeling smug for some reason?
@kevrulz062 жыл бұрын
A local toy shop in my town that specializes in getting retro figures and buying people's old toys has that M.O.D.O.K. figure and the owner displays him with his left hand picking his nose! Yep, you can do that with that figure. Just like I made my Thrasher Suit Batman (from Court of Owls) throw up a double bird. Hey man, articulated fingers. How does that get past everyone the figure has to pass through to make it to production without at least someone raising their hand and saying, "Won't kids make this figure give the middle finger?".
@SatchelSwede3 жыл бұрын
I cant find the head for juggernaut, the price for me is too much.... I'll get it one day
@TheMrRolas4 жыл бұрын
I get a fin fan fong complete and super clean in a goodwill for $10
@gamebrothers68354 жыл бұрын
This is because i love the ultimate spiderman comics, but my favorite is the ultimate green goblin
@wreckeddiehard4 жыл бұрын
i still have the galactus BAF!
@CasterGarcia4 ай бұрын
Toybiz did the best,however the present day baf have the knockout power of 3d printing that makes them looking so good they look like they just jumped out of the tv,,,,,but toybiz is what im overly impressed with,the colors on the sentinel and galactis,and finffangfoom and many others take the 🍰 4the win
@ajjimerson67023 жыл бұрын
He lost me when he didn't put PiTT on this list.
@Nerdzoic3 жыл бұрын
Stick around, there is a reason I didn’t. Video coming soon.
@thisoneplays26013 жыл бұрын
4:51
@christopherharris53773 жыл бұрын
What about the amazing Pitt baf!
@Nerdzoic3 жыл бұрын
Not a Marvel Legend though :)
@moonuni3 жыл бұрын
I like sasquach.
@x_enomotofigs4 жыл бұрын
Hasbro has done a great job, and they are continually improving. But, since Bafs are really impressive by their size, I’ll say the highest points are still from toybiz.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Good call!
@edwardstewart63724 жыл бұрын
Hasbro now a days have the better looking Build-A-Figures but unlike Toybiz they lack Giant sized Build-A-Figures so, it's about time that Marvel Legends go back to making giant sized Build-A-Figures from 12-15 inches.
@suhtangwong4 жыл бұрын
My opinion: Hasbro: better proportions, more up to date articulation. Toybiz: bigger BAF, more articulations, way better paint jobs and shading. Idk if it's just me, but I really liked the hasbro onslaught, I think it's underrated but he's on top for most people's hated baf list, not sure why, proportions perfect, detailing and sculpt. Just lack of paint work.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
I think he looks pretty cool
@thetexanboy804 жыл бұрын
I think it's because he was released as Red Onslaught, a character from an event that was almost unanimously hated, and didn't have a normal Onslaught head until it was included with Kitty Pryde a year later.
@Justlink2004 жыл бұрын
If this wasn’t only Marvel Legends from ToyBiz I would of went with Pitt. Still to this day my favorite BAF ever.
@StigmaNYC4 жыл бұрын
What about Pitt?
@taxevasion71514 жыл бұрын
And toy biz onslaught
@sondosoft46034 жыл бұрын
Technically Not Marvel Legends.
@Wooshey_Wooj3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh grosss!!!! I just got the deluxe Modok. I’m sorry but age did not go well with that BAF. But I understand, ToyBiz.
@yellows_u.h.p85214 жыл бұрын
Arcticulation wise i think hasbro did better better but siZe definitely toy biz so I say it 50 50 it just depends on your own preference
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Hate to say it but the size is important
@sondosoft46034 жыл бұрын
Size is extremely important. If it’s not significantly bigger than a normal figure then why am I paying so much extra and working so much harder to get it? And given Hasbro’s 30 dollar deluxe line, the BAF exists purely for monetary reasons at this point. Toybiz did it as a way of producing figures that would have never been released in a normal format.
@GothamKnight-hsw4vx5264304 жыл бұрын
Personally I love the 2013 Hasbro Iron Monger Build-A-Figure! Think he's underrated. Sure he's not very articulated and a bit on the short side, but he has a special place in my heart.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Just the character makes me like that BAF
@lrf2334 жыл бұрын
Toybiz mopped the floor with Hasbro in the BAF category. I used to have all of them up till 2019 before selling them all.
@yoitsvic11264 жыл бұрын
I’d have to say Toybiz made better BAF’s because they were bigger and had better paint jobs in general and to my knowledge, they never rereleased any BAF’s as solo figs or in 2packs like Hasbro does(Hulkbuster, Juggernaut and Civil War Giant-Man, just to name a few).
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
The re-releasing drives me NUTS. Please I expect BIG BAFs
@SlasherIncorporated4 жыл бұрын
As someone who doesn't collect entire waves since I'm not interested in the comic book figures, I LOVE the fact that Hasbro sometimes re-releases BAFs as already-completed solo figures, or part of a pack. It's pretty annoying when you only collect the movie and video game figures, and the BAF is an MCU or game character, but the wave has comic book figures mixed into it. I'm not buying those just to get the BAF pieces. So I support the re-releasing. It benefits me and other similar Marvel Legends collectors.
@yoitsvic11264 жыл бұрын
SlasherIncorporated fair point, my dude
@isaiahpetersen48534 жыл бұрын
SlasherIncorporated i mostly agree only i like the comic book figures more
@SlasherIncorporated4 жыл бұрын
PNVGingy Yeah, that’s cool. I think I avoid the comic book figures because I hate the look of them. That’s not a fault of the figures themselves or of Hasbro, obviously. I just don’t like the comic book designs that they’re based on. I prefer the movies’ and video games’ more realistic and modern designs. Just a matter of taste, I guess.
@sashisilverraj84114 жыл бұрын
Awesome list but Pitt should be up there somewhere. And also it doesn't take the amount of figures you've mentioned to build most them as Toybiz had many variants with extra BAF parts. Like the Sentinel can be built with only 6 figures when it came with 9 figures including variants.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me know, others said the same thing but I could have sworn there were that many parts. This makes much more sense
@shawnpiette53723 жыл бұрын
Pitt isn’t marvel
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Who did the BAF better, Hasbro or Toybiz? Sound off! If you like this video please give it a thumbs up and don't forget to subscribe to my KZbin channel: 👍✅ kzbin.info
@taxevasion71514 жыл бұрын
Toy biz
@keatonrobey37274 жыл бұрын
Hey, can you do a video about the Top 10 most underrated Marvel legends figures?
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Soon!
@misterfaf82564 жыл бұрын
@@Nerdzoic may I get a shout-out? Please
@keatonrobey37274 жыл бұрын
@@Nerdzoic Awesome, I'm a newer Marvel legends collector and I like to see these types of videos (just ML in General) so I really appreciate it!
@JerOfTheDead4 жыл бұрын
Build a figures actually got me to stop collecting marvel legends. I felt compelled to complete them all no matter how obscure the figures or likewise the build a figure
@brianrivera39783 жыл бұрын
I think toybiz made better looking bafs hasbro made better size bafs they both had some draw backs like face sculps body proportions didnt like the finger articulation by toybiz although toybiz look better they were a bit on the short small side hasbro made a nice size figure but lost it on the paint and sculpts...
@gerrysabron4 жыл бұрын
these are such feel good videos, lol!..got all in retail except Fin Fang, which needed 8 undesirable figures (to say the least) to complete..I don't think the Haslab would compare. The Toybiz Sentinel, awesome as it was, was a free Baf from $8 figures then, the Haslab, is $375.
@anonymousraw7663 жыл бұрын
But you never included the Hasbro Apocalypse Build A Figure which is better then the Toybiz one
@nkrugjohn2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that you think that Toy Biz apocalypses with it's skinny chicken legs is better than the Hasbro one!
@kakalis23234 жыл бұрын
Galactus. They need to rerelease/redo all the old big bois so I can get the ones I missed. Definitely not paying $200 for em 🤣
@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker4 жыл бұрын
This is a good list, although I'm surprised Venom didn't make it on here. Maybe it's because it wasn't actually Eddie Brock. lol I'm so glad they released the Brock version as it's own figure.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
He was on my shortlist
@carlokovac98643 жыл бұрын
toybiz has the disadvantage of being 20 years younger ... that's why toybiz wins by a lot
@Jestin612 Жыл бұрын
I really want that blob baf. Maybe one day. Sugar man will be mine...eventually.
@duirace3 жыл бұрын
Easily Toybiz wins. BAFs have to be either tall and/or beefy!
@clintmesle76134 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Wendigo didn't make the list. I have to go with Hasbro but that Toy Biz Galactus is pretty dang awesome!
@davetempify4 жыл бұрын
Collecting the 3.75" scale guys, my number #1 - and it's not even close - is Fin Fang Foom (he looks awesome holding the smaller figures in his hands), and #2 would be Modok (he's a tiny bit big, but still works). The Sentinel and Galactus are lower down for me since both of those figures came out as even larger versions (with awesome sounds) in the 3.75" scale.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Good choices!
@raymondz71524 жыл бұрын
Hasbro for the win
@nostalgiccollectorbandido68023 жыл бұрын
Hasbro is Ok I guess ..BUT as far as Build A figures goes ,TOY BIZ all the way simply cuz of the Sheer size ,of their bafs Articulation, and the awesome paint Detail...14inch BAF??Thats Amazing They don’t make em like this No more...ToyBiz all the way Rip 🪦
@Nerdzoic3 жыл бұрын
Accurate, TOYBIZ owned the BAFs
@jamesmorrison9914 жыл бұрын
Hasbro all the way !
@B0N3YARD044 жыл бұрын
Now you have to do a worst BAF list
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
I just posted a poll to help get me info for that video! Check it out!
@bazaar84933 жыл бұрын
I think I prefer the new Galactus to the old toy biz one
@captainrex39544 жыл бұрын
Personally I think that sugar man is what a build a figure should be, something to large or obscure to fit in a box, so for me sugarman is number 1
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
It’s the best they have done this decade for sure
@ufoboy3393 жыл бұрын
I say both
@Di11zCODM4 жыл бұрын
I had no clue Toybiz released a Sugarman lol
@mikeybarrow11154 жыл бұрын
Kinda wish they'd do this with black series for creatures, ships, dios, I mean id pay an extra $5 for the big ass inquisitor from fallen order as a BAF!
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Such a missed opportunity
@jand83034 жыл бұрын
I like the BAF P.I.T.T., it's a huge beast
@eskimojoe65643 жыл бұрын
I think most marvel legends look like crap tbh.Neca is just much better quality :)
@Nerdzoic3 жыл бұрын
I like the neca sculpts but I am not a fan of there articulation or QC
@luckypapi873 жыл бұрын
We need a new Blob for the hasbro ML line! Glad you like Juggernaut in this! I wish we could have a re-do for comic Giant man. Love that Fing Fang Foom, we need a redo from hasbro too! While I appreciate Toybiz, I also love what hasbro has done.
@JapiCustoms4 жыл бұрын
ToyBiz = The Best BAFs
@sondosoft46034 жыл бұрын
I have a love/hate relationship with BAFs. They are very exciting. But ultimately they are just pure greed and marketing. I don’t think it was in the Toybiz days but now it definitely is. Given Hasbro now doing $30 deluxe figures and $40 dollar “Rider” figures. There’s no reason they couldn’t simply release the figures solo. Collectors would easily pay 30-50 or even more depending on the size. Very few Hasbro BAFs have justified the BAF name.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
I agree but the BAF is a great way to help get more free obscure characters to move in stores
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
I agree but the BAF is a great way to help get more free obscure characters to move in stores
@thousandwolves9524 жыл бұрын
Apocolypse is king but quality is meh..latest and oldest versions
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Love for the character impacts my opinion
@salamwati92814 жыл бұрын
You need to ask my fellow toy collector...Toybiz..Nuff said.🤓
@blankwavemessiah4 жыл бұрын
don't feel bad, Matt. Broski also stole "Toyetic" from the president-bossman of Kenner. good work here, and I LOVE the Major WF pod channel as well, was cool to see a channel I like saying "sup" to another channel I like. Really makes me want to revert my stuff into collectors reviews etc like this.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Nice! Yeah I love those guys.
@ragehd15954 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you've seen the toys that made us great show
@mk-19914 жыл бұрын
Let’s be frank here, Toybiz wins it hands down. They had the better size, sculpting, paint work and more bang for your buck. Hasbro is just lacklustre, Fin Fang Foom was one of the earlier BAF Hasbro made that was inspired by Toybiz days, they got lazy afterwards
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
For a long time I thought foom was a Toybiz
@mk-19914 жыл бұрын
Nerdzoic Glad I corrected! Annihilus, Fin Fang Foom, were the earlier series inspired by Toybiz. We hardly get those huge BAF these days
@AlexMartinez-oi2mv4 жыл бұрын
Toybiz had its days hasbro is way better
@pollyrapone63434 жыл бұрын
I am mad that venompool was not on the list
@THEEND44444 жыл бұрын
I can agree with all of these. But I do think Mojo should’ve been here.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, he was on the short list
@timsevigney40363 жыл бұрын
My fav is Cull Obsidian. (Also my only complete one...)
@Nerdzoic3 жыл бұрын
He is a super cool BAF
@gerrysabron4 жыл бұрын
aaaah, yes my cup noodles & cereals college days to afford these Toybiz Baf...Perfect Top 10 list.. except some of the rank, but that's specific preferences, Sentinel # 1..some people looking for Sauron, he's 11..you cant have 2 green lizards in one list, his big bro's there.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@josegutierrez51824 жыл бұрын
TOYBIZ. Definetely
@stayhighdieyoung54794 жыл бұрын
What about Sauron ?
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Didn’t crack the top 10 but I loved him
@massimomagarino92714 жыл бұрын
What about cull obsidian
@willthebeast80024 жыл бұрын
Lol where's P.I.T.T. ???
@marineboy19642 жыл бұрын
Toybiz rules
@Wooshey_Wooj3 жыл бұрын
BLASPHEMY! I don’t agree on the size. Only, because It depends. That’s what it all comes down to. For example the one that you hate the most is fat Thor. I for one, love it. But to each their own. The new Cap wave. Looks amazing. Still building the wings even though it could be a deluxe figure. I do understand what you mean by the figure size though. My favorite BAFs that I own are huge. Venompool & Joe-Fix-It.
@RichardBoutot7 ай бұрын
The Toy Biz Galactus sucks. He looks anorexic. He lloks like he is wearing lipstick, and the Marvel Universe Galactus SMOKES that thing.
@darrisreid5024 жыл бұрын
Currently working Sugarman after I finishing that BAF and a few pick other pick ups I plan to try to get the blob. For the line overall I prefer Hasbro. The though BAFs I would say toybiz but the thing is I feel Hasbro could do it, make giant BAFs again Fing Fang Foom proves it. I just hope when they said the are working on the tallest BAF ever I am hoping it is not that teased stiltman.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Stiltman would be sick
@andrewmaclellan6084 жыл бұрын
Toybiz BAFs are far more impressive on the shelf. Okoye and Demogoblin are cool, but any given Toybiz BAF is so much more of an eyecatch. I also think the Marvel Universe 19" tall Galactus from 2010/11 is leagues better than the old 2005 BAF.
@elrayoxephier13934 жыл бұрын
This is kind of a loaded contest. because if you dig hard and deep enough you'll learn that in bits and pieces the information is out there. When ToyBiz was going out of business they became Marvel entertainment. and then when that didnt work out and they were hemorrhaging money, Hasbro made their move and acquired the license. they also acquired the model in the program of what toy Biz had been doing for Marvel Legend. So essentially what you have today is ToyBiz Marvel Legends 2.0. without Toybiz having pioneering what thay did, we wouldn't have the great things we're getting from Hasbro. not to mention we still have some of the original members of toy Biz working behind the scenes to help Hasbro make the best of this line. Both are great and have good things to be happy about. but yeah, it can still be fun to knock around what is better. but for me, my love and greatfullness with this line started in 1988 with ToyBiz selling Bat-Man movie figures in the Warner Brothers catalog. Thay did a few DC figures. And by 1990 thay started makeing Marvel figures. Hasbro had a dark beginning with Marvel Legends as they were trying to flip things back into order and square away the bankruptcy . Hasbro used existing figure molds of the time to build up the Financial backing for the Department. Meanwhile they went back to the drawing board to re-envision what the Marvel Legends franchise would be like. They found a good formula, and still tweek it here and there as new ideas and technology come about. now today we have a new and diffrent kind of Marvel Legends. i Love them both, and all the wonderful people young, and old who collect them with me all around the world. Yes, it is bitter sweet. But it is still an amazing ride. Wow what a ride. 👍
@Imagine_TV3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don't understand why anyone hasn't rioted about how Hasbro has really gone down on their figures. Every one of their figures look like cartoons. Toybiz had made spectacular figures. Especially Spiderman. Spiderman used to have fabricated textures and ultra articulation. Not to mention the lack of toe and figure joints. At first Hasbro was giving it it's all going after toybiz but not anymore. Hasbro does have some nice figures but they recycle everything.
@SonofLynn064 жыл бұрын
Toy biz for sure.
@cardsfanboy4 жыл бұрын
Overall, it's tough, if we are judging simply based upon the quality of the build a figures, then Toybiz wins easily... but if we are include the ability to get the build a figure, either as originally presented or in a secondary wave, then Hasbro has to be the king... Toybiz never cared about re-usability of a build a figure... so you got great one off figures, but they had no intention of re-using the molds for people who missed out... Hasbro on the other hand has considered that as a selling point and it's help them create a build a figure, which in turn allowed them to create third tier and fourth tier characters that are required for the build a figure, while knowing that they will re-use the mold for a second or third selling of the figure... But Hasbro is never going to produce a Galactus, Sentinel, Apocalypse or Fin Fang Foom type of build a figure... heck Sugarman was a weird choice to be honest.... There is nothing that they can re-use, so ultimately if they want to re-use the mold, it's going to be in about 2 years a store exclusive (although from what I've seen of Hasbro.... it's going to end up being part of a two pack... as long as they think there is interest there)
@HomestarRunner20X64 жыл бұрын
Too much Toybiz on this list. I'm pretty much a day one collector, but unlike most people I believe that size doesn't make quality. The cost of plastic has gone way up in the last 16 years. The days of 10 inch BAFs are gone. Let it go. Hasbro released a ton of sick BAFs that never get any recognition because so many people are stuck in the past.
@raimiallpowerful20204 жыл бұрын
I like how you aren't one of those people going. Well the smaller ones because it's better for ACBA
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Nah, I like some bulk to my BAFs
@raimiallpowerful20204 жыл бұрын
@@Nerdzoic ye. It's too sad some are like that. I mean why would a big bulky character do spider-man poses. I prefer athstetic over articulation but I do love articulation. If u have an ugly figure with the greatest articulation ever it can't look good. But statues look great on display
@thereaper2189 Жыл бұрын
I love the baf galactose more than the Haslab, I know the haslab is better but it’s just to expensive and the figures it comes with. But if you just want a gala the figure get the toybiz baf it guess for like 120 now I think
@walkingnote10904 жыл бұрын
Not a Marvel's legends collector at all but I really love seeing the reviews. I gotta say Hasbro really has outdone themselves with the amount of characters released.
@themysterysith4 жыл бұрын
If only the vintage collection received that amount of attention though
@walkingnote10904 жыл бұрын
@@themysterysith can I get a amen in here
@LastBastian2 жыл бұрын
Personally I'd put Sauron higher than several of these... But that's just me I guess. 👍
@j-asher4 жыл бұрын
Hasbro make better single carded figures generally. However, Toybiz made the better Build A Figures though.
@darkheero183 жыл бұрын
Toy biz all the way has always done a better job with BAF and action figures as well. The quality of plastic is top high notch 👌 of toybiz and color shadding as well
@jasongoggins29874 жыл бұрын
toybiz!! I have dozens of toybiz figures as to where i have less than 20 hasbro. I'm also more old school..sorry hasbro. I also prefer kenner over hasbro when it comes to my star wars collection.lol
@thelegendscollector Жыл бұрын
I'd say toy Biz did a better job with giving the size because build a figures should be a lot larger but Hasbro is done a good job in giving us a diversity of characters because they've given us build a figures that we never thought would cut build a figures
@adyn_stackhouse2 жыл бұрын
Hasbro I think did the better job and unpopular opinion but I like the 2018 sasquatch baf wave the best
@accelplays17334 жыл бұрын
I love your honest opinions about bafs
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nanauejohnson31352 жыл бұрын
Hasbro because they not as parasitic. Toy biz had some great figures for their time but they absolutely devoured wallets.
@darkheero183 жыл бұрын
Hasbros plastic is so cheap that their figures look like bootlegs from China...specially with no color shadding
@superman273443 жыл бұрын
I think toybiz did a better job of making huge bafs with great paint apps, but I think the quality of the figures and the articulation has to go to hasbro.
@crypticriddler67794 жыл бұрын
This was probably the best presentation of a top 10 baf list 👍👍👍
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@user-rp8ov8ev3l3 жыл бұрын
Way off base with the order of your top three. Makes watching your other videos unnecessary because you obviously dont know how to rate figures.
@michaelaldana36334 жыл бұрын
My favorite build a figures are, crimson dynamo, Ultron 10 years of mcu, and gamerverse abomination. The 10 years of mcu Ultron figure is already a completed figure but it originated as a build figure but because the 10 years of mcu is an upgrade and the old build a figure version is outdated now
@Chaos-cosplay-is-bord-chaos3 жыл бұрын
👍
@scottlarson49224 жыл бұрын
I feel Hasbro has done better. Man I am super excited about the Strong Guy BAF.
@Nerdzoic4 жыл бұрын
I just saw that wave yesterday. I’m not at all familiar with the character though
@scottlarson49224 жыл бұрын
He's X-Factor's "strong guy". He has super strength and can absorb kinetic energy for a short time to increase his power. He even moved the blob.
@BrotherLeon3023 жыл бұрын
How would you know if a BAF is a knock off? As a matter of fact any marvel legends figure?
@Yoh233 жыл бұрын
I think the sentinels(baf version) will just get popular since the haslab can b the master mold and have small sentinels as regular ones
@buzzsawgr812 жыл бұрын
I've never been a big fan of BAF waves since half the wave is usually filled with filler characters I have no interest in.