Netflix Cowboy Bebop Is Bad

This is the greatest anime adaptation of All Time
HugeCharles / @moistcharlieclipsoffi...

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For those of you that don't know, Netflix is adapting a much harder series next, One Piece. Get ready for the cheesiest looking CG and effects

[@UserHandle454]

How tf would they make it? ,I didn't watch one piece but if I'm not wrong it has 9000+ right?, are they dumb or what? Lmfao

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@@UserHandle454 Yeah, episode 1000 just came out today. They are going to be making 10 episodes, most likely around 40 minutes long. The series will be extremely rushed. So far the actors they casted look like terrible matches, with the exception of Zoro' and Nami's actor. Sanji's actor literally looks like Eneru, so they have him playing the wrong character. This series is basically guaranteed to flop

[@eldaxx13]

@@-SP. Oh shut up the cast is perfectly fine

[@kettlefleet829]

It has a 10 mil per episode budget so i don't think the cg will be that bad

[@beastyms]

Oh god, pls no. Don't ruin the masterpiece.

[@TheSecondVersion]

The silver lining of Charlie never having seen the original Cowboy Bebop is that if he'd watched it during his "mysterious anime guy" phase, he would 100% have tried to emulate Spike Spiegel

[@eagletrucking9493]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJm9gJyGo5xkjNk OMG CHARLIE JUST GOT REDHANDED 4K

[@chanr9531]

A great loss for humanity then

[@gimbit7583]

@@user-zh1ds5ht3p no

[@gimbit7583]

@@eagletrucking9493 no

[@grimmseti]

Fun fact: The "Mysterious guy" phase is what's known in Japan as "chuunibyou" It's where somebody tries to act cool by pretending they're an anime character. As such, it is usually associated with middle school age children.

[@Tangarisu]

Lets be honest. They where never going to do Edward right, never. Its not possible with real humans.

[@TheTec2800]

I thought it was ok

[@PhoenixSplash]

She got like 10 seconds of screen time.

[@pictureperfect6556]

Lets be honest, who even gave a shit about edward

[@aintthatapotofeffluck8926]

@@PhoenixSplash Unless they tone her down, Ed will never work in live-action.

[@axiss5840]

@@pictureperfect6556 She's an incredibly beloved character.

[@TomoHawKzZ]

Honestly I think the actress for Ed nailed it... it's just that an actual human cannot portray a character like Ed without immediately becoming cringe.

[@Fella182]

Okay i might be trippin but why do people keep talking about ed? Like the character that had less than a minute at the VERY end of the show?

[@myorkka]

@@Fella182 cuz it was such a screwup that no one can ignore it

[@GeeWTee]

I think that's a dead on assessment. That was kind of a lose-lose situation for them. If it's accurate then it's going to be cringe, but if it's inaccurate people will complain about that.

[@Nick_J_]

Almost like it was cringe *to start with*

[@JackFrostIsHere]

No she didn't. It was creepy af. Not saying it was her fault but the writers could have just avoided that part knowing rl people can never imitate the silly movements of cartoon and anime characters

[@cross5464]

That blackmail line is almost physically painful. To think someone wrote it and felt they're so smart.

[@seasnaill2589]

Funny thing is, with the right cinematography I can see it working, especially in an anime setting. They just....shot it, so so poorly, letting the line hang all by itself it just came off as cringey.

[@GeneratedPerson]

@The TacoCat bait, don’t click that guys. How/why would a random internet person just have a video of Charlie in an accident

[@BrickTop1]

@@seasnaill2589 just no

[@Sound557]

It gets dumber when you learn that blackmail as a word comes from England and Scotland and originally meant “illicit rent”, nothing to do with race.

[@jessragan6714]

That and the fact that he's being seduced by someone's grandmother.

[@alvinsaisi5969]

“Avatar the last air bender was the worst live action adaptation” Ah, so he’s just wiped out Dragonball evolution from his mind like the rest of us.

[@bergonath8851]

Evo- what?

[@bloodninja2517]

What's that

[@loveableheathen7441]

CONTAINMENT BREACH - ADMINISTERING CLASS 1 AMNESTIC

[@ItsJustValHere]

I don't know that are you talking about. There's never been a Dragon Ball adaptation. If there was one, obviously they would be absolutely faithful to the original, of course.

[@khhnator]

but Battle of Gods was animated and in the continuity, it was not an animation

[@kennondahm8647]

What they failed to do was just tell a day to day story of the characters being together with a subplot happening in the background. That was the show. The adaptation was focused solely on the subplot which would’ve been ok to see the story told mainly from that angel but they sacrificed flushing out the characters and they’re development for it while at the same time try and make you care about the characters

[@carlosandleon]

The show was fine. Brilliant even. I honestly don't get the hate. I braced myself for disappointment but it was a lesson for me not to trust public consensus on the fucking internet.

[@carlosandleon]

@@SpartanBrix Too bad we won't see that since the second season has been cancelled :(

[@carlosandleon]

@@SpartanBrix Another victim of cancel culture. People are just too sensitive nowadays. It was a decent TV show, it's only fault was that it couldn't satisfy the fat gluttonous spoiled public.

[@rzk9995]

and they changed characters, and overall just bad casting

[@jaxsonmiles5986]

I enjoyed the introduction of Ein. The actor really made the part their own but didnt stray too far from the anime version of Ein which is really rare for Netflix

[@eso29k]

fr, the casting for ein is great too, he looks dn exactly like his anime version

[@worsethanhitlerpt.2539]

Its a Corgi how can you not love him

[@Wegottafixteamfortress2]

I could've been a better Ein ong

[@LoveJungle420]

These people are crazy! The acting was spectacular in this show. The casting was so unique and specific. Pretty much every actor did an excellent job. Fit the style perfectly.

[@zaintbreez5178]

Blackmail joke is similar to: Are u guys alright? Everyone: Yes. Her: No, u all r left.

[@loljay3281]

I somehow breathe air through nose because of this joke. I am done

[@JCD22]

Now that is funny sir

[@zaintbreez5178]

@@JCD22 and if u want cringe lvl over 9000, there is a video of this joke. Just type r u alright . Its on Britain got talent.

[@JuTakii]

@@loljay3281 I’m worried that I almost chuckled at both jokes

[@thenamelessone6119]

The line would've been funny if they played it off as awkward and dumb, like something a character would say in its always sunny or something. Instead they play it like witty, cool noir dialogue and it sounds like something out of a porno.

[@sirbeerus6987]

Charlie: "Air bender is the worst live action adaptation" Dragonball Evolution: "Hold my balls."

[@darktempest]

Hold my big huge green balls

[@bingus6869]

god dont remind me

[@azombie8mybaby]

Set the franchise back a decade.

[@winter2025]

_Holds them_

[@FinnKomTrikru]

Oh god don't remind me of that man

[@bohansenboh]

Vicious sucked. His character in the anime was cold, calculating, smart and ruthless. That's what made him such a good villain. The audience hated him but it was never explained how he became the way that he was. They never explained why he was so power hungry, why he viewed everyone as expendable or what his relationship with Spike and Julia was. There is a vague reference to them being brothers in arms and the suggestion of a love triangle, but we never got any answers. I was hoping the live action would explore some of that. But, they didn't. Instead Vicious was turned into a rage-full idiot without foresight or guile. Ed could have been cast better, I guess. I thought Spike was well cast actually. John Cho really nailed that roll, but it seemed like they were more focused on making the characters likable then believable. Faye really bothered me. Because her character was frustratingly juvenile in the anime. That's what made Jet Black such a cool character, because he knew that Faye was hurting and even tho she pissed him off, they still forgave her. That's what made them a family. Also Faye's character is supposed to be superficial, that's why her relationship with Ed works. She's so one denominational, at first, but Ed looks up to her, in a way, and that helps her to grow a little. Also Jet and Spike have a brotherhood and understanding between them that is in the live-action, I don't like the wrinkle that Jet didn't know that Spike was part of the syndicate. IDK it just seemed like there was enough mystery in the show to explore without changing the plot and loosing the characters.

[@nativeam25]

His fathers disapproval & and high position and high expectation born spoiled what I think made vicious the way he is.

[@christianjacobs2767]

Only seen a few clips of his character but he's seems too talkative almost unhinged, I do like the more cool silent laid back killer vicious

[@worsethanhitlerpt.2539]

The Anime was better mostly because it was Lean, and left so much untold. Same with the Terminator sequels, the original only had a bare-bones mythology and thus was better than the bullshit sequels that had no chance of being good and gave all the wrong details

[@bohansenboh]

@Kurotetsu I didn't think Spike was white in the anime. I always saw him as Asian same with Faye and Ed. Jet was white, but having him cast as black didn't bother me, because the portrayal was true to the character. I don't think there is a white actor that I can think of who would have played jet and have done a better job. Josh Brolin comes to mind, but he's not physically big enough and probably wouldn't do it. Other than that the only actors I can think of are Jason Momoa and Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson, and I don't think they would have done it. Maybe you're just racist. IDK, but what the fuck does it matter? Anime characters are often created to be racially androgynous anyway, and Cowboy Bebop is no exception. Also CB was created by Japanese people and dubbed by white people for and English speaking audience. Also Beau Billingslea, the dub voice actor for Jet is black. Most of the original voice actors are Asian. So ... ... your point is really fucking weak. Like your dick ... probably.

[@tracy_748]

Dude who played Jet killed it tho, he's the only character that was done well in this reboot.

[@defnotme4841]

If Johnny Depp were a child he’d easily be able to pull off Ed as a character

[@Culley91]

More like Asimov…..he’d be perfect

[@Wegottafixteamfortress2]

Pirate Ed I agree

[@dorian4191]

"I've never seen Cowboy Bebop" You're gonna carry that weight

[@commenterguywatchmyvide0s484]

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[@commenterguywatchmyvide0s484]

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[@HenryFrankenstein18]

@The TacoCat lmao whos gonna fall for that

[@zeebooboo9663]

@The TacoCat begone.

[@Ivan_Berni]

@@HenryFrankenstein18 you are talking to a bot, but somehow you name make it looks like you are the bot.

[@ThinkBeforeYouSleepYT]

They are going after Yu Yu Hakusho too. Someone has to stop these people.

[@oatman0]

THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

[@ariqnoor8081]

Damn Yu Yu Hakusho is my favorite anime. It’s going to make me sad if they butcher YYH as well.

[@Neodante15]

There’s no fucking way this is true

[@ThinkBeforeYouSleepYT]

@@oatman0 *it

[@tianamaycry]

Always good to find more YYH fans though. Here's to hoping if they go to destroy YYH they like slip on something and fall down a set of stairs and actually make it good on accident.

[@SXR123_YT]

I 100% believe that cowboy bebop, and many other anime's, can work as a live action show. Marvel films have shown that with the right vision, you can make it work. Visually, I can see a lot of love in its backgrounds, props, set designs and a multitude of other things. People working on this show clearly loved cowboy bebop. However, if the one(s) leading the ship don't know what they're adapting (or even worse, they THINK they know.) You get what we have now. A goofy spy-kids esque show that loses that "cool atmosphere" the original had, and this is coming from someone who didn't grow up with the series. I watched Bebop very late in the game, but while it had some funny/silly moments, they were never more then an off handed comment. A word of advice to anyone doing adaptions. For the love of god, stop trying to fix what isn't broken. Don't try to fix a character to the point where they become someone else entirely because you want to "bring them to the modern era", they were fine as they were, don't add in unnecessary sub-plots to a story that was good as it was. I fully understand that some things need to change when going from animation to live action, but the things that should remain as they were are the character's overall personality and the overarching story. A story like bebop had a delicate balance all the way through and when you try and change a bunch of shit because you want to "Update" it, you are looking at that balance and intentionally dropping a 500 pound weight onto one side with no care about the consequences. Oh well, better luck next time Space Cowboy. Hopefully we'll find someone who doesn't try to fix you.

[@WeebJail]

it DEFINITELY can. the steins;gate stage adaption is just... a masterpiece. because they didn't screw up the characters. that's all. fuck.

[@kitzthekat7977]

TLDR

[@sirapple589]

Kitz The Kat “Me think me do better than original creator, change lot without think of story consequence.” If you’re going to adapt something, don’t change anything that isn’t strictly necessary and, for the love of god, DON’T MESS WITH THE PLOT.

[@DukeMeisterCS]

Alright bro thanks for the essay

[@riverbetg]

Whatever happens, happens.

[@Silver-gu8zd]

“Written by AI” I wish. Written by the guy who wrote the Michael Bay TMNT movies and the guy who wrote Thor: Dark World. While also using none of Watanabe’s (the creator) notes on themes or how to adapt it with nuance even though they brought him in as a consultant.

[@sigheyeroll]

How does this guy keeping getting work?

[@Silver-gu8zd]

@@sigheyeroll Someone else put it aptly: he’s efficient at taking high profile IPs and churning out stuff that’s easy to digest for studios. He’s been doing this for two decades and is basically ingrained into the Hollywood producer circles.

[@ElFreakinCid]

I swear, every one of these projects where the creator is brought on as a "consultant" has taught us that when you hear that in relation to any of this kind of garbage, be ready for an absolute unmitigated disaster that even the creator urges you to stay away from. Dragonball Evolution had Akira Toriyama as a "consultant", and he later revealed he played almost no part in its production and would rather people just pretend it never happened. Tekken has Harada-san as a "consultant", he ended up revealing that he was basically a figurehead to keep the fans off the production team's case, had ZERO say in what went into the film, was not given any idea of how it was turning out during production, and regrets allowing it to happen, and he went as far as having Tekken: Blood Vengeance made as an apology to the fandom. This had Watanabe as a "consultant" and he revealed all the way back in 2019 that they were tossing out every note he provided and warned fans to go in with their expectations low.

[@yagoldt6195]

@@ElFreakinCid Damn, how did I not hear about that before

[@RevJ7]

Or they did, and you're just ignoring it to fit your hater narrative. Cringelord.

[@SleepyMook]

Funniest part is that even Hideo Kojima doesn’t like this show.

[@riskyy2657]

*Charlie no way this is u* kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2HLaad6ZtmWocU

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

Awesome.

[@StillTendo]

Don’t care

[@FSMassy]

@@StillTendo About your life

[@StillTendo]

@@FSMassy cared enough to comment

[@zeromontena956]

For some reason, this show manages to be more anime than the original anime was. And the worst part is, the anime feels more cinematic and real than the live action one. Pathetically hilarious!

[@commenterguywatchmyvide0s484]

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[@honeytlbadger4365]

Literally can't understand how it's possible, but the live action feels more cartoonish than the anime.

[@OWLyMULLET]

@The TacoCat ? how you know?

[@user-ld1wl7bh5i]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but yeah In this case, anime feels more real than live-action

[@r.achel044]

the whole thing was shot in dutch angles and it's uncomfortable to watch. plus faye was annoying

[@Stoned_Coyote]

I disagree with Ed being a 1 to 1, in the anime she was a lot more likeable. In the Netflix adaptation she's just annoying.

[@worsethanhitlerpt.2539]

True dat. The cartoon version of her is funny as fuck and the live version was never gonna fly.

[@leohawk776]

@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 I was just exposed to the live action Ed for the first time. NEVER again. That wasn't just jarring, it was offensive. Take that writer out behind the shed, because that actor didn't deserve that.

[@FredDurst00]

The follow up to this should be: "I finally watched Cowboy Bebop"

[@SpikeJet2736]

What's embarrassing about it is that this should've been a no brainer. Cowboy Bebop should be one of the easiest animes to adapt to live action cause it's a love letter to hollywood and hong kong cinema but instead they adapted it the completely wrong way. It's a very surface level adaptation

[@punani_slayer4209]

Now it's gonna be at least another decade before another director tries to adapt it

[@trequor]

Noir too.

[@choodle9729]

why would you even adapt it in the first place though? I don't even see the point other than money

[@stuntmonkey00]

This is exactly why it's failing. It's trying to mimic the western audience's memory of Bebop as a love letter ot western culture. It wasn't, it was a Japanese Yakuza noir movie with a lot of western homages. But lots of contemporary Japanese art has a western infatuation, just read Haruki Murakami for one. Bebop's western generation is a really odd one, because that's the generation that keeps trying to say that "the English version is better", whereas nobody from Gen Z today would say that about Squid Game. The Netflix version is EXACTLY like that mentality, just aping what Bebop was without understanding it's roots. For example, nobody who watched Bebop as a kid in America seems to understand that the characters themselves are homages to Lupin III, but that would be plain as day to an Asian person that Spike=Lupin, Faye=Fujiko and Jet=Jigen. That's a whole level of nuance that is missing from the original western dub of the anime, and then you have the Netflix adaptation which is a copy of a copy, now it's just "cartoony" as if some boomer saw anime for the very first time and thought that "anime" was just "asian cartoons".

[@Shiroi0moi]

@@stuntmonkey00 Expecting nuance and understanding of any other culture but western from a westerner is like asking a fish to ride a bike

[@BZRKIR]

Fun fact: for that scene with Ed, Jon Cho actually got shitfaced for real to pull himself through without physically cringing himself into a black hole.

[@user-uv8in1ww1t]

Makes sense

[@pagedMov]

based

[@margarethmichelina5146]

I feel bad for that guy, he got leg injuries and the production got halted for months and then the show sucks. Honestly, the fact they make Spike as a bloodthirsty murder in the show is totally unacceptable, in the anime, Spike is a care free guy and only kill if he wants to. Probably the only character that closed to the original is Jet but I can't get over the fact he used to be married, has a daughter, and his ex-wife is married to his ex-partner in ISSP.

[@thevillagetroublemaker]

Poor guy lol

[@shardaejackson]

@@margarethmichelina5146 what’s your best live anime action show

[@clipsbyjess]

Steve Blum is Spike. Period. His voice is just too iconic.

[@rymal576]

His name is toonami tom

[@zjaeriqsanders1731]

Idk I actually think John Cho was the best live action choice he did really well IMO

[@soul4996]

@@zjaeriqsanders1731 he sucked including the rest of that Garbage

[@soul4996]

Steve Blum will forever be spike Netflix didn’t make bebop they made some garbage

[@TheMetalGaia]

Facts. Blum is an icon.

[@acanwithnobrand]

Everyone is confused about how Netflix fucked up this bad, but guys. Remember when Netflix made Cuties.

[@Thepietro5000pp]

Netflix didnt make cuties

[@Thepietro5000pp]

@Rohan Dasgupta they just bought the rights to stream it

[@blumpy18]

don't forget how the fucked up with Death Note

[@sandwichmonster7067]

Netflix exclusives can only be either really good (Arcane, Castlevania, etc) or really shit (This, Cuties, etc)

[@mms598]

@@sandwichmonster7067 I honestly don’t know how Netflix manage to make something as incredible as Arcane but then accept a shitty show like cuties on there

[@jonathansalinas2224]

Correction. The worst live action adaptation title still belongs to dragonball Evolution.

[@JF-zo9kz]

Attack on Titan's is up there too

[@moneyboyok]

Would disagree, evolution is almost at so bad it's funny but there is no redeeming last airbender

[@gaiusjuliuspleaser]

@@moneyboyok I can watch Evolution with the boys for that reason alone. We tried Avatar too... that's just a boring non-movie. Evolution is The Room of anime movies.

[@deusbeowulf6039]

DB evolution was so bad that the original anime creator came out of retirement to make a diss record in the form of more canon. He continued the series just because he saw the amount of disrespect thrown on his work.

[@minecraft-hw7kh]

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[@Nurr0]

Ed should've been portrayed as a silly, but horrifyingly competent/threatening hacker. That's all they had to do to convey the character.

[@danielroden9424]

in the show ed hacks the ship with zero effort, forces it to fly back to pick her up while dancing around with the controller over her head and a gigantic tidal wave from the bow of the ship approaching him. its insane and awesome. they could have at least kept SOME of the original stuff because it was so well done at least to segue to new stuff, but nope. the closest is Pierrot and its a bad copy devoid of any sympathy for the character. he's just a crazy assassin. why did they change it to knives work instead of spike reusing one of the bad guys knives he gets shanked with? i dont know. not for any good reason.

[@Mac_Kraken]

Yeah that portrayal was extremely cringe

[@tinycnyc]

I feel like they need a second movie for that cuz I feel like introducing all the characters and all their backstories and one movie is not really enough. That's kind of what I don't like about anime adoptions because they're trying to fit an entire series into one movie. Or into two movies.

[@Slimreaper13]

Honestly Ed is kinda coded as a feral child and that’s why they’re so weird but they only seemed to get “Ed is weird”

[@ElFern32]

I agree, he is silly but can be serious and a chill vibe not full on waving hands everywhere

[@thegrimcritic5494]

Honestly, the way Ed could have worked in a live action production is if they had her act like Brad Pitt’s character in “12 Monkeys.” He’s weird, jittery, and manic, but what he says is still intelligent.

[@Zakibaki.]

I was literally thinking he exact same thing

[@BigBossZUCO]

I don't think there is even a remotely way they could pull a human Ed. They could have made an IA that had the same personality as Ed with the face and all.

[@shane5896]

In the live-action they decided to do an exact 1:1 interpretation of Ed, the most cartoonish character in the anime. Changing Ed would have been warranted due to the medium change. However, they chose to completely change Faye into something unrecognizable. She went from a femme fatale to your obnoxious foul-mouthed little sister. A change that is not warranted due to the different mediums.

[@worsethanhitlerpt.2539]

Youre right about Faye, I didnt notice because she looks so fuckin hot I just wanted to like her new character. They were never gonna get a 6' woman with big tits who could play the part

[@alienteknology5390]

I liked Faye I thought she was funny.

[@ridleylegassy]

@@alienteknology5390 in which version?

[@JacF6734]

I still hold that Scott Pilgrim vs. The World was the best live-action adaptation ever made

[@Tekkias]

Kenshin movies were really good

[@wood8216]

Speed racer

[@commenterguywatchmyvide0s484]

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[@margarethmichelina5146]

Alita: The Battle Angel is also good and it's underrated. Even the protagonist litterally has anime eyes.

[@SwifferTWetJetMop]

That movie is proof that you can adapt goofy comic book stuff into live action, but it’s hard to do and if you can’t nail the tone it just comes off as cringey

[@nicolassuarez1683]

“Anime just doesn’t work with real people” couldn’t have said it better myself charlie

[@barodrinksbeer7484]

tbh I think cosplayers have pulled it off, I also think there are niche weird emo sub groups that dress like anime characters. That being said, they could have just casted an autistic kid for Ed.

[@elias_xp95]

There is a lot of more grounded anime out there that doesn't have the... weird... aspects that don't translate from cartoon to film.

[@soseji_pan012]

Some anime do work, like samurai X and blade of the immortal, but cowboy bebop and one piece?? Hell no

[@13666RAI]

Black swan (perfect blue), Edge of tomorrow (all you need is kill) and alita battle angel is good

[@TheRealCarlBrutananadilewski]

Theres nothing better than watching new, fresh out of college writers getting a nice healthy dose of reality

[@gauche5800]

With a scene like the one at 1:31, I imagined them as boomers out of touch with reality.

[@blueskiesj]

the person playing Ed is doing a literally perfect live-action Ed. and that's the problem. (and agreed, not that person's fault at all)

[@ko-bh3cl]

it's funny that Charlie tried to justify the cringiness of the dialogue by saying they didn't alter it to fit the medium. as far as i remember, the anime dialogue was far more natural than whatever that was lmao.

[@Zer0Spinn]

To be honest... Ed is kind of like that in the anime too. It's just that it looks way cooler when animated.

[@Dontaethefist]

@@Zer0Spinn go back and listen to her lines. Ed was not as insufferable as she is in this adaptation.

[@Thankfuldead]

No. It isn’t lmfao. Anime dialogue is cringe as hell.

[@kaylajohnson4867]

@@Thankfuldead It is, but cowboy bebop specifically has the most natural sounding dialogue to me and many others- the english dub is amazing compared to others alike

[@mmymmy315]

@@Thankfuldead they mean the dialogue in the anime Cowboy Bebop specifically. Cowboy Bebop's writers for dialogue were really good, miles better than whatever the hell netflix put out

[@nbv6975]

Whoever directed this did a horrible job. As Charlie said, it’s not the actors, and it’s not even just the script writers or the general show, it’s the directing. You can pull off very goofy, cartoonish stuff in live action (and with lower budget) while being good - look at any movie by Taika Waititi. But whoever directed it just did it so horribly wrong. It’s an adaptation, it’s not gonna look like an anime, so don’t try and make it look like an anime. They’re different mediums for a reason. Just… overall, no thanks.

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[@commenterguywatchmyvide0s484]

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[@thetruthroomwherenothingis4979]

Mustafa Shakir and Daniela Pineda are the wrong race to play Jet and Faye

[@chanr9531]

When will they learn this lesson? This isn’t the first anime live action adaptation, you’d think they would’ve already figured it out

[@itsmiffymel]

@@thetruthroomwherenothingis4979 What race for Jet? There is no confirmed race for Jet Black you just sound weird at this point :/

[@TheWickedWizardOfOz1]

Oh, if you only watched the original, you'd know that the characters were FAR more realistic in the original. Oh poor Gren, what did they do to you...

[@lundylow]

Ed's cameo was described by Mother's Basement as "90s video game commercial," and that is painfully accurate.

[@Zadamanim]

Ed's actress is putting her heart into it but the direction, editing, lighting, script, and especially the costume design are so distracting, you can't shake the feeling you are watching an actor acting instead of having the character come to life. Like watching outtakes that got left in.

[@srnabooz]

Hey no offense but Ed's actor uses they/them pronouns!

[@Zadamanim]

@@srnabooz my mistake then

[@disgaealikerasapOG]

Yeah she can only do so much with what they gave her

[@Alkis05]

I always knew that if they tried to make a live action version of Ed that would be the result. I really don't get the people that was pissed for Ed not being in the trailer. I wishing she never even appeared. Her character was too cartoony. It was great in the anime, but it is a horrible type of character to put in a live action show.

[@disgaealikerasapOG]

@Alkis05 As someone who was championing for her...regrets are made.

[@christopherthompson5400]

I feel like scott piglrim is a rare example that more animated impossible stories that can be recreated really well when blending live action and animation. But it seems they relied way too heavily on the live action aspect, and it just resulted in this over the top uncanny and simultaneously disappointing feeling.

[@minecraft-hw7kh]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gKTLoH2YitaKbKM.

[@MegaEliteAwesome]

I have no idea why Scott Pilgrim worked. It feels like it shouldn't have. The entire thing is great. Well I don't love the 1st Evil Ex battle (but it's still accurate to the source material), but otherwise it's pretty incredible.

[@jgw9990]

@@MegaEliteAwesome possibly because they editted the fuck out of it and made it different to a standard movie and more of a comic book feel

[@dws6x292]

I hate Scott Pilgrim vs the world. That film is an insufferable obnoxious bore and Edgar Wright's worst film hands down. Michael Sera has all the screen presence and charisma of a piece of balsa wood and therefore has no chemistry with Mary Elizabeth Winstead (the two couldn't be duller together), Every character were dumb shits and I wanted all of them to die, the visuals are atrocious and made my eyes bleed and I don't think the ending works either. And yes the netflix Cowboy Bebop is crap and makes me worried for Gundam.

[@amaro8818]

@@MegaEliteAwesome I think its because the live action and movie were made together simultaneously.

[@brandonrodriguez1277]

How can you compare a movie to a anime you’ve never seen

[@BenQ-vp9yh]

Not the original show nor the new adaptation is a movie

[@tracy_748]

I seriously despise Netflix for what they did to Gren. They had a badass dude that fought in the army with Vicious, played saxophone like a badass, and just had a smooth personality, and turned him into a ru-paul gay bar looking twink. It seriously bums me out what they did to his character.

[@SoniasWay]

“The Netflix live action adaptation turned out to be awful” Hmmm who could’ve seen that coming

[@layton6202]

I'm guessing you

[@kickass2117]

Hey, at least they tried to do something and failed unlike you self-promoting shamelessly with zero creativity.

[@nepspartan-7597]

Hmm. When does any live action anime adaptation work?

[@thechickensfoot5345]

@@nepspartan-7597 it isn't very faithful to the manga but the Alice in borderland adaptation is pretty solid overall.

[@averageanimefan519]

I learned my lesson after Netflix Death Note. And Netflix Fullmetal Alchemist didn't help either.

[@huskybucky1861]

I seriously hope that the actor for Radical Ed isn’t thrashed as bad as young Anakin Skywalker was.

[@pharoahcaraboo9610]

Yes. Please people don’t fucking torment the literal child. 😭

[@lockerbuddy2039]

These are anime fans, they send death threats, dox and harass people for not liking their favorite character. That poor girl is gonna have an awful time because the stupid neckbeards in the anime world don't understand the differences between bad acting and bad writing/directing. None of which should warrant death threats and harassment, bullying, etc.

[@braedenalberti]

dont worry, the star wars incident will be worse because people actually watched that movie

[@ToraSaid]

@@lockerbuddy2039 you seem awfully pressed my guy

[@pl3459]

@@pharoahcaraboo9610 problem is sthey cast someone who looks like she's in her twenties to play a tween girl, if they actually just cast an actual girl that age then the mannerisms and acting style would work but with the woman they cast it's just so cringe because it's a lady in her twenties pretending to be a child and trying to act like one, just terrible casting decision.

[@HeavyWeapons52]

That scene with Ed is like the Rosetta Stone for why this series doesn't work as an adaptation. I think one of the big reasons why this version of Ed doesn't work at all is that they don't seem to understand how to actually use the character. Ed in the original is usually just kind of chilling doing her own thing and being a weirdo, but when she has to actually talk or interact with people, she tones it down noticeably, even though she still sounds very childlike. Here, though, they've made her wackiness an essential part of HOW she interacts with Spike, getting all up in his face and talking nonsense. It's like if you saw an Ed cosplayer at a con and were like "Oh hey, do an impression!" Not to fault the actor though, this is clearly the fault of the writers and directors for adapting the character this way. They clearly WANTED it to turn out this way, and that just makes it all the more embarrassing. There's a lot of stuff like this in this live action version, where they'll just randomly keep some things in while totally misunderstanding why they were there in the original, and as a result, you end up telling a story with no purpose other than to generate revenue. That's one of the cornerstones of a truly bad adaptation imo. It isn't the worst thing in the world, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't think it was embarrassing. No hate to anyone involved, though (except maybe the writers lmao)

[@hexcodeff6624]

I bet you could make a faithful portrayal of Ed's original performance in live action. It's mostly a kid singing songs that pop into its head and wiggling around. Wouldn't be impossible.

[@VaulickTheCrow]

Look how they massacred my boy. Also, a big thing for Bebop is that it was essentially Noir first, Anime second. Adaptation totally missed that. Seems like they just wanted everything to be wacky, when there are actually very few wacky elements in Bebop, or rather even the wacky elements carried a strong undertone of seriousness. People were dying, lives were ruined, despair was everywhere. It's a rather dark show with some levity thrown in.

[@ajdoku865]

this is it! it was a show where serious people were put into the occasional wacky situation. The writers/director made so many changes just for the sake of it, rather than to make an equally compelling story. E.g. not having the girl kill her out of control boyfriend in episode 1. Or changing that character from a ride or die senorita trying to escape the gutter together with someone who had experienced the struggle, to some runaway rich daddy's girl who kills herself for no reason. Not to mention, Faye was knowingly gonna send this girl back to her terrible father.

[@ManaPsirando]

"wacky elements carried a strong undertone of seriousness" This, exactly this. I haven't watched the Netflix one yet, I am so afraid.

[@suumcuique4530]

you got it. this is the first time I am disappointed by a video Charlie made. he did not watch the anime and tried to hope on a train by doing this video and getting views.

[@AndrewKidd14145]

With no good endings.

[@lilywilson6230]

@@suumcuique4530 not really his opinion Is actually good to see how bad it actually is cause his opinion is showing that even people who haven’t watched the show still think it’s bad and also he never said that he was making this video as a fan of the series so...

[@joeyjojos5839]

I would totally blame the director and not the actor for how Ed is. They probably told them to make it that goofy. If they didn't want Ed like that they DEFINITELY would have told them to tone it down.

[@shardaejackson]

Give me your best live anime show

[@joeyjojos5839]

@@shardaejackson Honestly none of them I'm not a fan of live action adaptations

[@shardaejackson]

@@joeyjojos5839 this is the best one and y’all are shitting on it mainly because of one character lmao

[@shardaejackson]

@@joeyjojos5839 it’s rivaling the anime in my opinion

[@joeyjojos5839]

@@shardaejackson bro I didn't even say anything negative I just said it was the director's fault that the acting was weird in that clip. I haven't even seen the whole show lmao. Why are you trying to fight me? 😭

[@anthonypadron6383]

Yeah you nailed it by saying that the change in medium throws everything off. There’s a “style” to anime that just can’t be emulated by live action and REAL human interactions. As someone who’s seen the original anime dozens of times, it felt like I really was just watching some people just cosplaying… smh

[@aidinexmachina4232]

The funniest part about Live Action Adaptations of Anime is that Anime Adaptations of Live Action would probably work. Could you imagine Animated Titanic with a Ghibli Budget?

[@catffiend]

Never trust any anime netflix adaptation. Ever.

[@riskyy2657]

*Charlie no way this is u* kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2HLaad6ZtmWocU

[@anathemamei]

Literally

[@Broken_Balisong]

Fr

[@russian_knight]

Anime??? Cringe!!!!!!

[@pottasiumcynaide4104]

Trueeee

[@Faust_YT]

*Didn't respect the source material. *Didn't respect the fans. Netflix: "Why are we getting so much hate??"

[@linkueicatastrophe9727]

Shut up and enjoy your (bell) peppers 😎

[@Memecious]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKGqdX18bbWsb6s,

[@someguy9496]

Lmao “respect the fans”. Source material, okay, but a bunch of fat weebs don’t really need respect

[@Bloodnickel1]

Doesn’t Netflix give free reign to the directors?

[@Buer999]

@@someguy9496 you OK dude? Haven't even watched the show but that's some projection there

[@DwayneIsKing]

Damn Charlie, I see you working on the guns 💪🏿😂

[@VoidedMirror]

It's already cancelled. We won't have to endure a live action Ed.

[@Maxer4000]

Hell, even the creator of the original publicly stated he has no say in the project.

[@commenterguywatchmyvide0s484]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHmkdKKcYsl8iqs

[@commenterguywatchmyvide0s484]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHmkdKKcYsl8iqs

[@christianmurray4827]

that should have been the moment everybody realized it would be trash. Creators not being involved in adaptations is always a huge red flag, still got hope for the one piece one solely due to how involved it seems oda is with it

[@IO279K4RMN]

okay now that makes sense. Just why would they do it without him?

[@ItsJustValHere]

@@christianmurray4827 Same, but I don't really expect much from Netflix. At least the cast seems pretty ok, but we'll see.

[@ResidentTarantino]

The Radical Ed scene looked like a straight-up Nostalgia Critic skit

[@MrConredsX]

WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE VEGAAASS!!?

[@elgoblino9918]

LMAOOOOOO

[@TheSecondVersion]

I wish someone could remember this series so that I don't have to

[@echenexcetera5702]

MELVIN! MELVIN! Brother of the joker

[@Memecious]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKGqdX18bbWsb6s,

[@banjokazuya2913]

I've watched the anime with my dad and it was an awesome journey. Then my dad wanted to watch the Netflix adaptation too. God, it was painful. What did they do to Julia and Vicious, and why Faye swears so much and is a nymphomaniac lol.

[@polkadotsandstars]

The fish eye lens Ed scene is like a 90s commercial for juice

[@toshi8561]

A good movie adaptation should be a *good movie* first. Unfortunately, Netflix is focusing too much on the 'adaptation' aspect and expecting the hype over the source material to carry all the weight.

[@elbowjuice2627]

You spelled marvel wrong

[@piccoloatburgerking]

@@elbowjuice2627 Marvel didn't make this.

[@kite5882]

"You're going to carry that weight" in an unfortunate way.

[@mattb4640]

that's a fair criticism

[@elbowjuice2627]

@@piccoloatburgerking lmao

[@realkingofantarctica]

Kind of surprised to hear that Charlie has never watched Cowboy Bebop. It really seems like one of those shows that he'd adore.

[@riskyy2657]

*Charlie no way this is u* kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2HLaad6ZtmWocU

[@carlosandleon]

It's overrated. I gave it a shot. It's not worth it .

[@solowrldd]

YT comment threads in 2021 are a joke

[@Carl_Johnson75]

@@carlosandleon the anime?

[@larssteffen5873]

Never saw it either and I binged hokuto no ken and stuff

[@LuxxyOfficial]

1:49 the live action death note movie actually had a planned sequel that would pull from the source material, but it never came out.

[@walterkujo7707]

"People die when they're killed"-Charlie 2021

[@dp503]

I’m not surprised he said that. The words that come out of his mouth sometimes

[@reesf743]

"That just sounds like a white lie" Indeed I am white and I am a liar Netflix when are yall gonna offer me a job

[@J78Kio]

who r u

[@Master_vp101]

@@J78Kio an incredible future movie director for Netflix, obviously

[@imrecco]

"That's the best goddamn piece of dialog I've ever read.. your hired" - some 60yr old Netflix executive

[@justajobro1266]

@@J78Kio iggy

[@Uncharted8907]

@@justajobro1266 poo

[@x511100x]

The worst thing about Netflix making these adaptations is the fact that there are now so many people who will never watch the original Bebop and Death Note because of them

[@goemeier1342]

That and they blackwash the characters, then insert black jokes that no black person would find humorous. Its kinda insulting tbh

[@rajyavardhansingh4491]

Thats a good thing

[@andrewoverhere8525]

Why is that a bad thing tho?

[@Memecious]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKGqdX18bbWsb6s,

[@andrewoverhere8525]

@@maji2510 explain to the folks at home what blackwash means

[@TheBlackwolf5011]

I hadn't seen the show yet and had heard good things from my brother. he's easy to please, but the bits and pieces I saw weren't bad. even the clip you showed wasn't the worst. it did occur to me before watching this..."what about ED?" even when you started saying it was flaming dog sh%$ I was still skeptical. then you played the clip with ED. my face melted off.

[@TheBlackwolf5011]

@Kurotetsu being quick to judge others is a sign of insecurity.

[@TheBlackwolf5011]

@Kurotetsu Ya I apologies. I did the dumb thing of getting offended on someone else's behalf. my brother is actually one of the smartest people I know, but always feels like he's an idiot and lets others convince him hes dumb. I've been working my ass off to get him to believe in himself because he is very creative and can be very smart. if you want some counter points to your point. he has a very vivid and deep imagination. he also has a great sense of humor. he's an avid book reader and is even writing his own book right now (shockingly good compared to most Hollywood and TV, but that's a low bar these days). his taste in movies is usually good, but he has an annoyingly high tolerance for bad movies though. over all I blame his like for the live action cowboy bebop on him never seeing the anime. every point I made about the differences, he agreed made the anime sound way better. hope that clears up why i got unnecessarily defensive.

[@4thSurvivor1990]

Netflix just has a hard on for ruining anything they touch that’s from something that’s known to be popular.

[@felipemaluli4797]

We still have to give credit to SEATBELTS, the band that produced the music to both the anime and the live action, they’re awesome

[@TheSecondVersion]

It's fitting that the Seatbelts managed to save something from that car crash of an adaptation

[@Michaelqwerp]

@@TheSecondVersion HOLY FUCKING SHIT *BROOOOOOOOOOOOO* 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

I haven't heard the live action soundtrack yet, but if it's the same band then at least something good will have come out of this.

[@lemonlefleur6236]

Hey man, “People die when they are killed” would be the best possible thing to come out of a live action Fate show.

[@commenterguywatchmyvide0s484]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHmkdKKcYsl8iqs .

[@jackbordar2727]

If they adapt fate into live action, than i hope they adapt the visual novels and not the anime. If you know what I mean.

[@metalcobra726]

@@jackbordar2727 you mean the visual novel. Also I think a live action fate is near impossible unless a huge budget is given.

[@AmSeris]

@@metalcobra726 unless they adapt cooking with emiya then sure.

[@jackbordar2727]

@@metalcobra726 yeah sorry, always get these two novels confused

[@Jaenoe818]

Would love to see a review of the anime once you watch it

[@austinclark5278]

Alita Battle Angel is the only anime adaptation that not only stayed close to the source material but it did change certain things to fit in the real world. Alita in my opinion was a successful adaptation of anime for the most part and other adaptations should look at Alita or Ruroni Kenshin as inspiration for an adaptation. It needs balance of both staying faithful of the manga/anime and making smarty changes to fit it in reality. A good adaptation isn’t impossible it’s just not easy.

[@jaydenterrell8295]

netflix wasn't satisfied with the death note live action so they decided they gonna drag cowboy beebop down to hell as well😭😭😭

[@zSion]

Yeah.. and now they're doing one piece as if they haven't ruined enough

[@commenterguywatchmyvide0s484]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHmkdKKcYsl8iqs

[@JonborgVA]

I can only image how One piece is going to be oh no

[@drakemallard1486]

@@zSion one piece was a mess anyway... I've never understood why anyone with a brain could like that anime.

[@kobe4212]

@Makima no

[@totalnewb123]

Jet Black was a standout character in the Netflix series. The actor pulled him off perfectly. Vicious?……mess.

[@jokirb2739]

Vicious sucked to begin with, they actually made him more of a character in the adaptation

[@guru3468]

@@jokirb2739 a character? Yes a good one? Nah

[@dxv1ddxg1c]

Sorry but vicious always sucked

[@guru3468]

Y'all realize no one's calling Vicious a good character right? But a mess is a mess.

[@Polychi1998]

Why did they make him black? Because of the name?

[@barrybaah3965]

My dude looks like he bouta turn my water into pot

[@MrElleoluis]

I was tring to swallow this crap for 9 episodes, every time I got pissed with it I was like "Hey, this is not bebop for sure, these are not the characters that I love, BUT it's a funny space western at least, mediocre, but funny". Them I watched the 10th... my god I throw up so hard! Can't believe that they have done that. Why Netflix, why?! Is just disrespectful. I'm just hopping for a quick death, no green light on a second season.

[@Ostnizdasht206]

The anime was already perfect. You can't get better than that, only worse.

[@raeishimura]

And good God did they

[@itsyaboyskinnnypimp42069]

It was simply beautiful and perfect

[@whiteve1n890]

Much, much worse

[@frankguy6843]

It was really doomed to fail on the premise of making a near perfect anime into live action. The animation plays a big role in the character of the show, to try and emulate it with real people is just dumb and will always fall short. Leave animation alone.

[@user-dx5jb5ck8s]

Debatable

[@temojin]

"Netflix Cowboy Bebop adaptation is bad" One Piece fans: I'm in danger.

[@solcreed10]

I still have faith in the story of the adaptation since oda is involved but can't say much about the animation, it really hard to pull of one-piece without making it look goofy.

[@MRTPlays756]

@@solcreed10 i cant imagine sanji in live action behave like that it would be absolute cringe

[@joiboya]

Imagine if they couldn't even nail the aesthetics of Bebop,One Piece belongs to whole another realm and a source material like such must be the last thing they think of adapting because it's hella hard labour extensive project and can still be a trainwreck. Too faithful,loosely faithful.. the uncertainty of the tone for the live action knows no bounds, even if Oda himself helming the production.

[@devontebailey7058]

Wait wtf netflix is making a live action one piece noooooo 🤦🏽‍♂️😭😭😭

[@joiboya]

@@devontebailey7058 yes,it will be real 'fun' to see Strawhats coming to life and doing the infamous 'The Walk'

[@kylesmith2951]

So I watched this with a friend of mine and 2 minutes into the first episode I turned to him and said “I feel like I’m watching a bunch is cosplayers acting out a scene at comic con”! Nailed it 100% that is fucking amazing.

[@trebot9292266]

You're wrong about being too close to source for Ed. The live action Ed is 10x more wild, same with all of the characters. I don't know if it was budget that was the problem with the show. They seemed to have a pretty decent budget looking at a lot of what they added. Feels like it was 100% down to script being the issue with the show. The writers seemed to want to include lots of characters who showed up in the original, but didn't want to keep the story the same. Some characters are now affiliated with other characters. Of the two smart ways to go about an adaptation they went the avatar/dragon ball route. We could have gotten a show about the adventures of the bebop and her crew or a faithful adaptation and either would have worked better. Mashing the two together just makes the whole thing feel weird and off.

[@CLVN116]

Holy mother Mary that scene with Ed was so unbelievably horrible for the show lol

[@buddette5513]

@@Ale-Eduan ...what?

[@PainbowSheep]

@@Ale-Eduan what do you mean?

[@kittykat490]

@@Ale-Eduan huh????????? what are you referring to

[@joshc5613]

@@buddette5513 he's probably got his panties in a wad bc the actor who plays Ed, Eden Perkins, is apparently non-binary, which... honestly isn't incredibly inaccurate for Ed

[@umont13]

I thought the show was alright then when ed came on I instantly cringed to death

[@Noelle29348]

Charlie: "Why make this at all?" Netflix: "Money."

[@mshake7056]

More content equals money

[@snickle1980]

"What are you, an old sea captain?"

[@firstlast8190]

I fear for Onepiece live-action

[@TheAlienGangster]

@@firstlast8190 no matter the budget or the passion, I simply CANT see that level of zaniness and cartoon mayhem working in live action. The animation allows this stuff to take place without looking uncanny. Only thing I’ve ever seen pull the cartoon ridiculousness off in live action is Scott pilgrim.

[@firstlast8190]

@@TheAlienGangster cgi chopper...

[@MukiMuki688]

At least Yoko Kanno came back. Made a guitar cover video for the ending theme, The Real Folk Blues

[@levelupleather2482]

Idk I kinda like cowboy bebop, or at least the first 2 episodes. I haven’t seen anymore past that.

[@geograymon55]

To be fair to the actor playing Ed this is probably the best anyone could have done trying to recreate Ed in live action. But it just can't work without remaking the character.

[@dominicscreativefilms]

Honestly, this is one of those examples of how somethings just translate better in animation than a live action format.

[@ElFreakinCid]

@@dominicscreativefilms No, it's more that, like everything else, they have no clue how to portray the character, nor do they care, since they openly resent the source material and its fans. Outside of the fact that most of Ed's facial expressions and body language clearly don't translate well to live action, Ed's behaviour also works better in the actual series because she's a CHILD. A hyperactive, possibly autistic child who's largely raised herself. Here, all they took from that was "hyperactive", and they blew it up, cast an adult in the role and made her a poor man's Tank Girl.

[@lucasdude]

nah i think they could have done it. they just had to dial it back a bit which wouldnt even make the character any different. ed is someone who is very smart but has a ton of energy, hyper-fixates, doesnt really know what boundaries are. i agree with charlie about how they made her too anime; theres a right way to do it without changing the character. like he said a lot of it is the way they emote & move (which is totally not the actors fault, they just had a bad director)

[@FrostThorn]

Actress Ed is a girl

[@SirBlackReeds]

It's not the best. They should have hired an actress with a background in dancing but instead they went out of their way for a diversity hire.

[@DerultimativeOzzy]

Biggest miss of the show is that the creators didn't quiet catch what sort of genre Cowboy Bebop is. While the anime itself is being very ambitious in its claim to create a new genre, you can still be described as a Sci Fi Noir type of story. Lots of Jazz, cheesy lines and a fair amount of mystery shrouded around every character but executed really well with a bit of humor thrown in there as a side dish. You have a genuinly good time with these characters without needing to crack jokes all the time. The character Ed is the comedic relief but even she isn't so overwhelmingly present where you would get the impression that its a comedy. they just missed the mark on that basis which lead to a story/ a show that just doesn't work. They're seeing the surface level stuff but not the substance itself. Shame.

[@reeba4824]

I find that so funny cuz there are a lot of live dramas like this that they could've taken inspiration from. First that comes to mind is Breaking Bad, in the way that they have drawn out quiet or subtle scenes but the little things in the shot mattered. Certain words spoken carried tons of weight. Cowboy Bebop had that level of seriousness and it was great.

[@midoribookstore]

"Didn't quite catch"? that implies they were close, and they weren't, not by leagues. They were fuckin WAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY off.

[@naive3832]

I would say more a space spaghetti western with a few tones of noir.

[@marx6jiron]

actually the adaption seemed more sci-fi to me then the anime itself

[@lexi9956]

The sad thing is it could have worked, but they needed to fly it a bit more like blade runner than trying to copy the anime entirely. Bebop as a story would work perfectly well live action, but a direct translation? That was never going to work and it never does. Didn't work for Kakegurui, didn't work any other live action adaption anybody has ever made, they always come out like a big load of bad cheese, melodrama and cringe. Heck, most of what I liked about the Netflix adaptation of Death Note is that if you just changed a few things about it, like the subpar L, and pretending Turner was Light, it could have been a great story about "Ryuk gets bored an drops the note in the human world, again." Another guy from Whami's house shows up to deal with him because N has no interest in the case. Hell, you could do a whole anthology series about the Dethnote and people Ryuk hands it off to hoping it will be as much fun as Light was. You could have done something similar with BeBop, Spike is still cool, but stupid, Jet is hard bitten and Faye is still chasing the almighty woolong, but aside from that you don't need to carbon copy them, and it wasn't a great idea to do so.

[@ryerye9019]

Creative direction came from Andre Nemec who produced Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Beverly Hills Cop. The tone was off because 1) he may have been too old to understand the difference between film noir anime and American Saturday morning cartoons 2) he just did what he was familiar with and didn't pay attention to the source material. A director with drama and film noir experience would have been perfect. Sin City and Dark Knight director Frank Miller would have been the perfect guy for the job.

[@ronynninjastar2414]

Imagine what they're gonna do to One Piece and YuYu Hakusho 🤦🏾‍♂️.

[@ZeroKitsunei]

This is actual kinda cool to get the opinion of what someone who's never seen the original.

[@summ.3433]

@@voltakackackack4303 How was the ageless child bad? It was a great way to show a tragic accident of a "kid" who's been living far too long and his life and wanted to be put out of his misery.

[@Hedonkeviik]

@@voltakackackack4303 you mean the best parts of the show?! You psycho

[@chillhour6155]

Yep, no "it's just nostalgia" defence from the lemmings

[@edwardbucher705]

I love this man but im sorry this video was made for views. I bet 20 bucks Penguinz skimmed thru the show, and didnt even watch the anime for a refrence point. How can you say its bad when you have nothing to base your opinion off to begin with. Also he mentioned like 3 vague reasons why the show is bad…. Which in reality you can do for any movie or show. Trust me if you are a Bebop fan, you will be entertained by this show, that is if you go into this as a stand alone because thats what it is, they did not replicate the same anime story and direction and instead took their own twist on things which i thought was refreshing. These guys got it as close to the anime than any other live action anime adaption there was. Mustafa Shakir was a better Jet than Jet was lmao. I keep seeing people compare this to the anime when in reality thats impossible to replicate. The live action got super small details right and they did their homework a lot more than other adaptions ive seen based on animes. Is this show amazing… no, but its definitely not bad either and anyone who says it is would not be pleased by anything anyway. The one thing the show lacked was more character development, emotional building and story telling. Thats hard to do in 10 episodes. But this was fun regardless and awesome to see Bebop getting the publicity again.

[@brandonbyrnes6302]

@@edwardbucher705 some of the worst writing i’ve ever seen. jet is the only character they got somewhat right and even that isn’t good. if they were going to change everything(for worse) they should’ve just made their own original story instead of smearing shit onto the pretty much perfect anime. the only reason anyone WOULD watch this show is because they stick the cowboy bepop name onto it. if you like this you should be ashamed

[@neme-chan]

Whoaa, you're telling me not castrating male characters and not turning female ones into perfect girlbosses is what normal ppl want? Crazy.

[@primalpopoz7856]

My eye are twitching so fast they could open up a portal

[@dragonbro5532]

It's bad when a person who hasn't watched the anime, can say its terrible lol

[@Lennyman]

Totally, I think it is better when someone that hasn't watch the anime judges it, because at least in my case, I couldn't stop redeeming some aspects of the thing out of pure love for the original show or hating things just because they weren't accurate. Now we can be sure It's bad overall

[@Saiyagami]

I kinda get the feeling he does this on purpose to jump on the bandwagon

[@82dorrin]

I honestly didn't hate it. LOVED the soundtrack, and I thought the casting, at least for Spike, Jet, and Faye was good. It's supposed to be goofy and anime-ish, which it succeeds at. Vicious honestly reminds me of Kylo Ren. That is NOT a good thing. Vicious is a villain who should never evoke memories of Kylo Ren. It's nowhere near as good as the original. If the original Bebop is a 10/10, I'd say this is a 5 at best.

[@boiboi5402]

@@Saiyagami he definitely does. Most of Charlie's takes are always the popular ones, mutahar does the same thing. They just wait and then make a video with a safe opinion. Still love the two of the creators but like I dont take their reviews very seriously

[@dahat1992]

I tried to watch it. Got, like, 5-6 episodes in. It was just pointless and not entertaining.

[@TheMildConfusion]

A part of the reason anime characters exaggerate their body language so much is because animating subtle human facial and body movements is time consuming and expensive, so they over exaggerate to compensate as part of the medium. You don’t need that in live action and it’s cringe as all hell to watch.

[@RetryOfHealGuy]

And also because they kept zooming in on her face...if the perspective was kept from a distance with a hyperactive child trying to rile a tired dude on the ground; it would have worked

[@ColonelAngus3]

I could never put it into words

[@sah9858]

You're spitting bars- they over exaggerate to compensate 👌

[@NightmareCourtPictures]

As animator you are spot on!

[@IAteFire]

Is that true in this case though? Cowboy bebop is full of subtle and stoic characters, case in point: Spike

[@congruentcrib]

With Ed, if they toned it down a bit and had a bit more vocal play; Ed might’ve been ok. Ed just gave vibes like a special needs kid on a sugar high. I felt like it was something from *the fifth element*

[@mancillamarie]

you just reminded me that the main character of death note was played by one of the dudes from the naked brothers band

[@Dontaethefist]

Jesus they could have just made Ed more relaxed and simple in her introduction. Scott Pilgrim vs The World was the ONLY live action film that did characters correctly. It's not fucking impossible, these directors just don't have a clue about what the average viewer wants to see. You got youtube channels like RDC world and Calebcity that can act A HUNDRED times better than the shit in these live action films with a very low budget.

[@Hedonkeviik]

Even then they kinda missed the mark in Scott and Ramonas personalities

[@danylol772]

@@Hedonkeviik i mean, they kinda did but also didn't have enough time to develop them like they were originally

[@enriqueggllzz]

Cant believe you just typed that. Actually staple your hands together

[@h.c4898]

Never seen the comics but Scott versus the world was hilarious it's like watching dragon z live action but with comedians.

[@christscrackers647]

They got Scott Pilgrim right because Scott Pilgrim is a western product created by a major western studio. Eastern to Western productions usually fail because of cultural differences in story-telling and audience adaptation.

[@kait.5437]

Honestly Ed’s faces are never THAT goofy. The actor here was doing a good voice performance but was made to act in the worst most unflattering camera angle

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Too be fair, it's impossible to potray Ed in live action. Ed is an eccentric character and it's so hard to potray that. The kid who played Ed in Netflix live action will be bully by everyone on internet for sure.

[@fritzreacts3904]

@@margarethmichelina5146 L comment

[@jakesevere9165]

Bruh Ed might have been one of the worst portrayals of any character in any media ever. Absolute shit.

[@sandraswan9008]

@@fritzreacts3904 ?

[@WastePlace]

@@jakesevere9165 just remember to not blame the kid actor for it. Not their fault that the director/screenwriter/whoever the fuck made them act it out that way

[@jaydenmckay2758]

I dunno. I'm two episodes in and I think it captures the vibes of the anime pretty well. It is goofy, but it seems like it just had to be, I don't know if there was an alternative route to go.

[@CLabmusic]

The anime is a work of art. Not just the animation and art style. The story telling is incredible, giving you pieces of the puzzle to the universe and it's characters. This show literally blows it's load the first two episode by dumping every plot point and origin story in our laps and hoping the aesthetics that they green screened into it will make up for it. So disappointed.

[@k2king249]

“Netflix Cowboy Bebop is bad” The sky is blue.

[@riskyy2657]

*Charlie no way this is u* kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2HLaad6ZtmWocU

[@user-fg3dz5kv7q]

Nice profile picture

[@k2king249]

@@user-fg3dz5kv7q thx

[@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398]

Ah yes, the floor is made outta floor.

[@Azubi_Meatball4349]

Mac and cheese is cheesy

[@24YOA]

Jet: "This is blackmail." Woodcock: "Hmm, damn right it is because, Jet, you are Black and you are male." Here's another one: Jet: "How are you, Woodcock?" Woodcock: "Better, now there's a glass of creamy chocolate milk in my eye-line." This is real dialogue from the Cowboy Bebop live adaptation. They changed Jet to be Black for these lines.

[@eagletrucking9493]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJm9gJyGo5xkjNk OMG CHARLIE JUST GOT REDHANDED 4K

[@user-jt6rh8xy6n]

She should’ve said “Yes Jet, because you are black and you are mail” still kinda shit but hey it’s an improvement.

[@conbutter6532]

Yes, I have seen the video.

[@succboah2000]

I laughed my ass of when hearing this, this is one of the dumbest line I’ve heard from a netflix show

[@badreddinekasmi8919]

Honestly the written lines don't even do justice to how awful it is. The delivery made it so much worse.

[@synapses9973]

Charlie, I’m glad you’re going to eventually see the original Cowboy Bebop. You’ll love it.

[@PepperJacked360]

I barely passed the first episode and I already felt a brain tumor growing inside my head. Please, help me.

[@tEzekielt]

For anyone who doesn't know, there's actually two other anime within the Cowboy Bebop universe. They're made by the same man who created Cowboy Bebop. The first is "Space Dandy", an insanely entertaining and hilarious space-faring anime. The second is "Carole and Tuesday", more of a drama based on the lives of two young female musicians who are trying to make names for themselves on Mars.

[@commenterguywatchmyvide0s484]

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[@commenterguywatchmyvide0s484]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pHmkdKKcYsl8iqs .

[@Akatsuki1289]

Space Dandy was the silent cult hit follow up to Cowboy Bebop that no one really expected to be good. Still very much an underrated anime and a pretty great dub too.

[@Absolute_Goober]

I've heard about space dandy but didn't know it was in the bebop universe. It just jumped way higher on my watch list

[@zray240]

I ended up watching Carole and Tuesday right after it released based on it being in the same universe. Gotta say, it wasn't bad. I enjoyed it for what it was.