Netflix's Messiest New Reality TV Show is BACK With The Ultimatum: Queer Love

[@BachelorFantake]

Imagine telling someone you think they're a bad person and they hit you with the xD 😁

[@julibeanbag]

Mouthing fuck off (maliciously) at your partner repeatedly in front of other people (or in general) is abusive and no one can tell me otherwise

[@nebullae]

the audacity of vanessa to feel offended when she got called out for that like.... she's so evil fr

[@taylorg6067]

For sure, especially in context. She has yet to show an ounce of empathy or even awareness of others wants, needs, feelings...it's hard to watch

[@lis7063]

​@@taylorg6067 exactly! There are so many lack of empathy/selfish moments with her, but one that really stood out to me was when Rae was upset about them having sex. I was almost in disbelieve at Vanessa just sitting there smiling and the answers she was giving

[@DottieMinerva]

I’m confused what she was even mad about. She was mad that Xander had an ex that she wasn’t aware of? Because why does that even matter?

[@pia_s_music_words]

@@DottieMinerva I suppose because as a narcissist or simply an egoistic person cannot stand 1) not being the only one 2) not having control

[@nataliacruz6218]

Vanessa saying that Xander maybe asexual and only attracted to her was wild, especially see Xander have chemistry with a lot of other girls

[@ErieMaxwell]

Right? And Xander had just talked about being a fairly sexual person 😆 The editing team deserves so much.

[@carrewen]

Yea agreed and I also thought it was kinda rude of Vanessa to discuss Xanders sexuality without anyone else in the room😅 I mean it's nobodys business unless they wanna tell on tv themselves i would say🥺

[@laurap256]

@@ErieMaxwell This. It's definitely something Vanessa tried to convince Xander (or herself) of.

[@Hanayaaa]

Also how she said that on national television??? I feel like that was something meant to be private.

[@TheMadsVolta]

Super inappropriate. She outed her on television! Just like outing someone as gay or lesbian without their permission, that isn’t ok.

[@laurap256]

Xander needs to be protected at all cost. This is a hill I'm willing to die on.

[@nailinthefashion]

No yeah here I am trying to find my Xander and she's getting abused? Nah fam I am a proud social justice warrior let me at'er

[@TheKira708]

She’s gotta learn to stand up for herself as well. Instead of making excuses for someone who belittles her.

[@Meh4991z]

Nah. People like Xander thrive on self-pity . It might be sweet for a couple weeks then after that, I’m sure it gets pretty annoying to deal with. It’s also worth thinking about what she sees in Vanessa to have dated her for 4 years . Perhaps they’re more alike than we think. Which is why I’m also looking at Lexi sideways. Lexi liked Vanessa up until the point she didn’t , now she’s on this hate-spree and expects everyone to think the same thing.

[@brittwilds1729]

Xander is a liar. And can’t ever be honest.

[@nailinthefashion]

@@brittwilds1729 what was a lie? When dyou feel they aren't honest? Lol

[@amandadosanjos3994]

This season is literally AMAZING!!!!! Barferella, Shane, Sheike, and Jackie walked so Vanessa could run .. not just run, like 5k marathon run it!

[@amandadosanjos3994]

@Christina Jones no. Maybe you do?

[@thehousespouse]

She's definitely the reality show villain to end all reality show villains. She might even end this reality show if she gets even worse!

[@amandadosanjos3994]

@@thehousespouse right?!?

[@Meganb1286]

Pass on Vanessa. Glad she has some fans but def not me.

[@amandadosanjos3994]

@@Meganb1286 obviously being a villain in a reality tv show is not how you should be getting fans lol, but it’s her life.

[@tash936]

That fingering conversation was the wildest thing I've ever seen on reality tv- I was shook 😱😭😂😂😂

[@nailinthefashion]

I've been waiting my entire life for this. I've wanted to see lgbt people get messy for too long

[@bootscooty]

yOUvE BeEn inSiDe HeR?!? ,😲

[@princesswineo]

Vanessa needs to be in polyamorous relationships. She is polyam, this girl is not built for monogamy. Flat out. Also, she needs therapy.

[@adusza8902]

She seems to me like she was treated poorly by men, so she had the idea to become lesbian and she is making fun of it. I can bet she'll end up with husband and bunch of kids

[@lis7063]

​@@adusza8902 I didn't get that at all from her. What parts made you think she was making fun of being a lesbian? Also, she identifies as pansexual, so it's not like she was hurt be men and ruled them out. I think as far as her sexuality goes she is sincere

[@bubbles4897]

Why do people see a cheater and then are like “they are built for polyamory” like the fuck you can still cheat and be in polyamorous relationships also

[@reading1713]

@@bubbles4897 Who did she cheat with? We say she is polyam because she said that she dislikes monogamy and wants to explore relationships with multiple people.

[@catlemasters9037]

you need great communication skills to be polyamorous without chaos 😭😭 so definitely a lot of therapy first lmaoo

[@Moriri_By_TshepiB]

Vanessa gives off narcissistic personality. Xander can only be attracted to her, Xander can't choose someone because SHE doesn't like them. She is with Rae to get back at Lexi. When that 'morning after' talk took place that's when I was done with her. That creepy smile 😖

[@YourGirlDeee]

Did you mention how hot and irresistible I am?

[@CanaAlyce]

Vanessa is so unhinged.

[@SheLovesFubu]

When I grow up, I want to be like Lexi. Vanessa acts as if she is an alien trying to learn human interactions without any understanding whatsoever about the same.

[@CherryCharris]

Lexi wished for Vanessa to trip down the stairs. Would you like to be like that?

[@nailinthefashion]

I hope I'm Xander one day. She's so simple and hot and just wants her schmoopy to gush over

[@nailinthefashion]

Also Lexi being a fem in a blazer without the blazer? Can any of us handle that?

[@cgill914]

I can appreciate some of Lexi’s qualities but she is one of the messiest people there! Vanessa is not my cup of tea either, but Lexi is not as emotionally mature as she thinks she is 😂

[@SheLovesFubu]

@@cgill914 honestly, Lexi got on my nerves on the latest episodes 😭

[@KaraDep87]

This is already so much better than the first one.

[@YourGirlDeee]

I sooo agree!!!

[@nailinthefashion]

We're gonna need more gays plzzzzzz

[@YourGirlDeee]

@@nailinthefashion 🔥🙏🏽

[@herefortheshrimp1469]

I’ve been asking for one of these shows to have this kind of cast for YEARS! I love being validated haha

[@TheStarForge]

How is Lexi the youngest, but also the most emotionally intelligent and aware person on this show... though I will say, she should know better then to be on this show.

[@wanderers5641]

I vote Sara as most emotionally mature ❤🎉 She's incredible

[@iyanutookoo]

My only criticism of Lexi is her threatening to tell her family members on Rae that she had sex with Vannessa.

[@TheStarForge]

@@iyanutookoo I cannot remember that part. I thought she said she would tell her family they broke up/she cheated?

[@reaganmartin4065]

@@TheStarForge she said that she did/ or now is going to have to tell her GRANDPA

[@TheStarForge]

@@reaganmartin4065 Okay, I just rewatched the scene. I don't think she is threatening anything, I believe what Lexi is saying is that she is going to have to tell her family that Rae basically cheated, that she slept with someone else.

[@quarantine1993]

I wish you talked about the dog situation too

[@rhiannonrecommends]

"I like to sleep with my legs stretched out" "You hate my dog! I CANT BE WITH SOMEONE WHO HATES MY DOG" W i l d. 😳

[@sleepingwhale]

I think tiff probably thought if they couldn't sleep together with the dog then she should've gotten the bed for herself and the dog

[@YourGirlDeee]

YES! That was mental, but everyone seems to have their dogs in bed and I am soooo surprised

[@nailinthefashion]

​@@rhiannonrecommends this comment made me laugh so hard I choked. Rhi... I would sue if it weren't SOOOOO good

[@nailinthefashion]

​@@YourGirlDeee I was like is it really that much of a dealbreaker? Why don't they have their own bed and why isn't she more lenient with a woman than stinky mcbutt...

[@thatoneacecomedian]

I’m loving the cast differentiating romantic, sexual and platonic attraction like it’s no big deal and totally normal

[@nailinthefashion]

Modern lgbt shows be like: here's the emotional intelligence you've been craving. Sip responsibly

[@Emmah1243]

What is platonic attraction? A friendship?

[@carly2290]

@@Emmah1243 yes

[@mabelameba]

​@@Emmah1243 i think platonic attraction is more like being "in love" with someone without feeling the need to have intimacy. That's different from a friendship. But its just my opinion based on experience.

[@taracallaghanphoto]

Vanessa really gives off the “fresh out of the closet baby gay” vibe of thinking saying super sexual things is funny and is going to make women be attracted to her.

[@hannahschlosser-hall3093]

its so funny how ppl like vanessa will blatantly lie even though they are literally being filmed.. like the proof against you is RIGHT THERE

[@ErieMaxwell]

Vanessa reads to me like someone who has never seriously dated a woman or enbie outside of Xander and is looking for a chance to date around, and who also might be nonmonogamous. Which would have been fine in the real world, but instead of just talking about it with her partner, she agreed to this mess and immediately started coming on way too strong. Like, I don't think she's a terrible person, but she should absolutely not be DATING anyone until she sorts herself out, let alone getting married. 😂

[@diamcole]

Exactly the kind of vibe I got. She hit the ground running and seemed to genuinely enjoy dating other people, and she definitely seems to lean more towards a more non monogamous relationship dynamic but a flag went up when it was mentioned that she never thought Xander would hit it off with others.

[@breajones4012]

I get the vibe she doesn’t want to get married ever and would much prefer to be in an open relationship. Which maybe her and Xander have talked about it, maybe they haven’t. And I think everyone is making her feel bad for never wanting to get married which seems a bit backward. Even her saying she doesn’t have romantic feelings isn’t crazy. People have sex with people they aren’t romantically attracted to all the time! Friends with benefits didn’t just go away in 2012.

[@woodyhitya]

We do see first hand that she is abusive as well. I think it’s absolutely fair to call her a bad person

[@kweenz600]

@@breajones4012 sure but then she should definitely not be on this show. The premise at least necessitates a passing interest in marrying the person they came with. She definitely seems to want to stay open and would probably do much better on Perfect Match or a similar type of show. I think she’d do really well on The Circle honestly!

[@kweenz600]

@@woodyhitya I didn’t see anything in her that I would call abusive. Inconsiderate and shallow, sure. But abusive feels like a stretch.

[@kenshinrurouni3784]

Everyone is bypassing how Lexi made all those comments to her partner about how her grandpa will be disappointed, etc. makes me think she’s not as mature as she seems. Also, saying I love you in a couple days is WILD

[@tuberAlma]

Xander seems so sweet, I hope its not fake.

[@bizzyb912]

Rae choosing Vanessa shows a lot about her. Lexi and Mal go really well together.

[@winterhug4331]

May 30, 2023 Yes I also think Lexi and Mal go really well together. I think Rae and Vanessa got with each other to stick it to everyone else who thought they should not be together

[@tea6306]

It does!!! I'm glad Lexi said it makes her question her b/c damn everyone picked up on it but Rae. Like girl are you living under a rock??!! It's the obvious not taking it serious that idk how Rae doesn't see it. None of their conversations have had any substance.

[@PanoramicView-o5p]

@@tea6306 it was insane that Ray chose Vanessa. I cannot see them being together honestly, then you know living together maybe they can be roommates but not girlfriend that’s insane Siri because Vanessa is too self-absorbed.

[@taylorg6067]

This was maybe the best show recap yet in my opinion. The question montage, the sleuthing (blew my MIND) the jokes, incredible job. I was losing my mind after these episodes and I needed a friend to freak out with and make jokes and you are that friend. Thank you 😅

[@nailinthefashion]

I think there's room for a part two already: there's so much drama and intricacies to go over. The dog situation BOGGLED me

[@AndSoWeLaughed]

I find it weird that Vanessa was so fast to come to a conclusion that she doesn’t want to be with Xander at that party but doesn’t bother to communicate with her at all. And how Rae chose her knowing she, herself wants to be married and have children but Vanessa wants to explore polyamory and isn’t interested in marriage at all. Which is why I did not feel bad for her after expressing her feelings about “the situation” and she’s crying and then Vanessa says “remind her how hot I am” lol what? Rae wanted to engage in sexual activity with her, I don’t like how Vanessa is being villanised for it. You don’t fuck friends is dumb because there are plenty of friends with benefits but it was weird that she wants romantically interested. What really ticked me off about Vanessa was that as soon as Lexi called her out she decided to be petty was fuck and say she was interested in Mail at the table to hurt her. And Mail turned round and said “we’ve had one date”, it was clear it was malicious. She then said “I’m happy you chose me (Rae) before I could choose your first”. Girl, what? Your first choice was Lexi, then you tried Mail and you’re not even romantically or sexually (as you claim) interested in Rae. Why would you have chosen her? I don’t think she’s the worse person I’ve seen on reality Tv, mainly because I know editing is always going to play on the fact they’ve found their villain and they need it to look way worse than it is. But yes, I’m not sure what her intentions are. Edit: I’d also like to add. No one’s intentions are completely pure on this show. If they wanted to sort their relationship out, they’d have got to therapy, counselling or done the experiment on their own. It doesn’t need a budget and TV crew.

[@nailinthefashion]

Imagine not even being someone's second choice and then choosing them just to stay on the show lmao. My heart goes out to Rae the most. She's so soft spoken, Vanessa is using her like a perfectly chilled Capri Sun til the last drop like she did with Xander. Also, your auto correct made Mal, Mail and I couldn't handle that lmfao

[@tea6306]

A lot of ppl aren't even realizing that by the 2nd episode, Vanessa knew Rae would be the only option she had left. She literally had no other options. The rest of the cast picked up on her bs immediately. Took Lexi actually LISTENING to what Vanessa was saying & not be blinded by constant compliments to wise up, but she did. Vanessa even tried to play in Lexi's face after being confronted with her "Well don't feel bad if I don't pick you" statement. I was glad Mal called her out about their 1 convo. It was obvious she was trying to make it seem like she had multiple ppl to pick when in reality it was only 1. I think both Lexi/Rae were distracted by their attraction to Vanessa to pick up on the nonsense from jump b/c as a viewer, it's very obvious Vanessa was there to fuck as many ppl as possible & find a reason to dump Xander lol. There's no amount of editing that can make you say/do the shit Vanessa was pulling lol

[@julietantonio1049]

The Jonathan Frakes clips were comedic gold, chef's kiss, 10/10 no notes

[@pigpjs]

Love that you opened woth pointing out all the other options these couples had besides this show. I watch it because its very premise is messy. Love that Netflix is embracing queer romance reality. So far the editing choices haven't felt fetishized either.

[@nailinthefashion]

Lexi is putting herself out there, no need to make a slutty edit, and I've never been so here for a Netflix project hahaha

[@herefortheshrimp1469]

There was definitely a sex scene that was edited super poorly and lasted to long - but otherwise I agree lol

[@tlewis449]

Y’all please don’t think Lexi is a great example of emotional maturity. She’s certainly got it together compared to Vanessa. But yelling at someone in public, continuing to publicly scrutinize them isn’t okay. The threats she made to Rae were not okay and she escalated the situation unnecessarily. To me I see a lot of black and white thinking. To me, Mal is a much better example of emotional maturity. Also Vanessa is playing a role and getting the villain edit. Keep in mind this is a tv show.

[@jessicastahmer2509]

I agree there’s a rush to put Lexi on a pedestal that could cause some unhelpful takeaways from the show. I think she’s getting a hero edit because she has relatable reactions to some wild situations and she can be charming. There’s a focus on her being wise for her age when some of her choices are not good. It’s very reminiscent to me of one of the “heroes” of Love is Blind season 4.

[@tia2073]

Mal is great ❤

[@mabelameba]

I was going to say that. Mal is by far the most grounded and stable out of this group. Her feelings were consistant.

[@lacelilies]

Yeah Lexi gave me an odd feeling but I wasn't too sure until I watched the rest of the eps. She has that coercive control in her conversations

[@cgill914]

Thank you. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like Vanessa much, but I also don’t like Lexi’s personality much either. Like why did she tell all her family that Rae cheated on her and made Rae feel sooo bad when Lexi was also becoming obsessed with Mal herself. Very hypocritical. Lexi and Rae are NOT a good fit.

[@WilliamsPinch]

Vanessa is so scary… she seems to have some misunderstandings around consent.

[@Meh4991z]

That’s a very dangerous comment to make . Rae initiated the contact so consent wasn’t the issue , she just felt bad about it afterwards. But don’t blur the lines and start making things up .

[@herefortheshrimp1469]

And so do you. There has been absolutely nothing in the show to imply that she has done ANYTHING physical without the other persons consent. Rae is being treated like she isn’t a full adult. You can dislike Vanessa but people making baseless accusations like that are only going to hurt her (a real person) and other victims

[@Tollkirschenkind]

The Beyond Belief compilation, I was screaming! I could've used that when I was still dating, that's a bunch of great questions, preferably all in one date without wanting to listen to the answer 😂

[@Meganb1286]

Worst case scenario for me is Vanessa works Xander and they end up together. Vanessa sucks and Lexi had her number and no one can unhear that.

[@nailinthefashion]

I think Xander is too busy with someone who actually appreciates her now. I would never look back if I found such an amazing upgrade hahahah

[@bootscooty]

Lexi is a grade A heifer who will end up married to a man and nobody can change my mind

[@tea6306]

I could see it happening after cameras left, but don't think they'll survive past the airing of these episodes. Xander would have to get past the visible lies, the manipulation, gaslighting, etc. that were forever caught on tape. The newfound self-respect with Yoly won't allow that. They experienced 1st hand someone loving them for them.

[@mick7804]

I dont think Lexi wanted Rae to not do the same, she was okay with her talking and flirting with other people and wasn't uncomfortable, she was even dating and flirting with the same person (Venessa) However, it was when Lexi clocked that Venessa isn't a good person and tried to tell Rae about it so she could be cautious at least so she won't get hurt by her. That's when she would rather her choose someone else thats there besides Venessa.

[@cgill914]

I feel like it’s an unpopular opinion, but Lexi is my least favorite person there. Vanessa has issues, but she comes off as misguided. Lexi’s behavior seems more malicious to me. She doesn’t actually treat Rae that well. You can see that Rae is constantly emotionally distressed when she’s around Lexi :/

[@britneyh8679]

Lexi wanted to make Raes choice for her because she ‘ knows better’. I don't think her anger was about Rae choosing Vanessa as much as it was Rae making a choice she didn't approve of

[@lauraperdomo9095]

It's Mal and Sam for me ❤. Love those two. The healthiest ones this season, in my opinion.

[@sarahcisco3233]

Thiissss

[@MsSaby97]

OMG WOW ... this almost makes me wanna watch it, but i know i will scream in frustration/secondhand embrassment in 5min and be unable to watch it hahaha

[@zuzanna6468]

It is sooo fun, watch it😅

[@mearafoster277]

Watch it! Vanessa is the only unlikable person 🙂

[@Skeezer66]

Having watched all of the original run of "The L-Word", I thought I knew lesbian messy, but this is a Whole New Level!!

[@nailinthefashion]

It's crazy to think how much representation we have now compared to the cis white fem L word of yesteryear hahaha. I love that show, what a pioneer

[@bellacurtis6026]

Why didn’t you mention the dog drama with tiff!!!!!

[@bink9797]

I never thought my favorite youtuber would reference my favorite show ever Beyond Belief Fact or Fiction 😂

[@AmberO]

You get bonus points for the “Beyond Belief” reference!! 😂😂😂

[@w.urlitzer1869]

4:23 Q: "do you wanna sit on my face?" A: "anything to shut you up."

[@isastu]

I watched the first four episodes just WAITING for this

[@kaleydeweese7413]

Bruh… Vanessa is so predatory? How strong she was coming onto people and being like “I love a challenge” girl what???

[@liftmeupwithchikabaybee4299]

I like how you got the tea on Xander and Vanessa 😅 explains why Xander always looks so guilty

[@mariefurie9241]

What do you mean?

[@liftmeupwithchikabaybee4299]

@@mariefurie9241 i appreciate his fbi mode on revealing the game plan between Xander and Vanessa. They came for clout and it is so obvious.

[@mij-kb7rg]

Oh no! I haven’t watched the video yet but I adore Xander right now 😢

[@KW-up2ox]

This show was a total cringe fest & I couldn’t look away until the fourth episode was done 😂🫣

[@oliveyim5216]

Personally, I don’t like Yoly. She's so unnecessarily mean to Vanessa. Like every time she talks to her, it's to put her down.

[@KatM272]

Lexi is so mature and self aware it’s increíble. She’s make an incredible friend or partner. Love her! Can’t believe she’s only 24

[@calaragazza3556]

Ummmm 24 isn’t a baby. It’s mid 20’s.

[@KatM272]

@@calaragazza3556 she’s not a baby but in todays tik tok phone addiction day and age, it is VERY surprising. Especially in a society where so many people aren’t self aware and have no sense of accountability. She catches onto behaviors and details that most people just don’t, then she’s able to communicate them effectively- the rarity of communication skills and emotional intelligence. Also, your brain isn’t fully developed til you’re 25; not that it makes a difference for many people.

[@nailinthefashion]

​@@calaragazza3556 thanks for emphasizing that cuz most of the people I've met 5+ years younger than me literally seem like 16 year olds. Screen culture is stagnating overall maturity, so when someone like Lexi pops up, yep, we all take notice. I'm sorry that that bothers you but awareness is the first step to fighting a problem

[@laurens8161]

LOOOLLLLLL

[@gabrielalamberti5860]

This show is a trainwreck and I love it. I also love how spot on your are with your commentary and your editing is spot on too!!! Kudos.

[@Tassie85]

Okay, so now I have to go watch this mess - thanks to you, I am acquiring yet one more guilty pleasure! When I told my gay friend about this show she asked if it was sponsored by U-Haul. I laugh-snorted my Diet Coke.

[@chibee4l]

I stopped it midway to watch everything😂 now i'm back

[@nailinthefashion]

Oh my god. Never let them go, they are one of the funniest people on the planet

[@tamcar04]

😂😂😂😂

[@deaunafoster1214]

I'm loving this season so far.

[@CaptainCait]

4:36 BHAHAHA I forgot how funny you are dude

[@naturalistafangirl]

The tea is hot !

[@naturalistafangirl]

Honestly I love sapphic people so much, the drama is gooood. I usually only watch reviews but I feel this season is worth watching 😂.

[@parrisnia72]

You know what's crazy? I was JUST thinking about The Ultimatum this morning only to log onto KZbin this afternoon and see they're back for another season! Soo wild!!!!

[@nailinthefashion]

✨️ manifesting ✨️

[@bootscooty]

Idk why people are hating so much of Vanessa. She's weird but tolerable.

[@andreabohjanen7992]

Vanessa’s comment that Xander would be asexual if not for her shows that Vanessa does not understand asexuality properly. So as an ace myself, that really put me off.

[@morelove444]

I actually wasn't going to watch this until you said it was the messiest. Now, I'm in!

[@ohno-wx6jz]

I couldn't hate vanessa past a certain point because it just started feeling like bullying to me. Like I get the usual "youre not here for the right reasons" spiel and her behaviour towards xander really sucks but at some point it really felt like ganging up on her. Treating her like shes some kind of monster and the way the sex conversation was had turned hard to watch lexi looked like a step away from calling her a rapist + also the edit being very transparent with wanting to make her the villain such as when they made it look like she was laughing while the other girl was crying. Shes definitely a weirdo and ive seen someone else saying she looked like an alien trying to navigate human conversations and... yeah. It just feels like she doesnt know how to interact with other people but that doesnt make her a monster or even fake. I would probably hate her for the asexual comment in the beginning but nah. At some point its just ganging up on an acceptable target

[@chibee4l]

I agree to some degree that it did seem like they were ganging up on her since rae did consent, but the next second she said she's not attracted to rae is what brought me back to reality. This is a show to determine who you want to marry and if she's here just for a good time, it's pointless. Why did she even come

[@ohno-wx6jz]

@@chibee4l its a reality show i doubt any of them went there because they actually wanted to get married. Vanessa is just the worst one at hiding it/playing it up for the villain edit and maybe this situation is serving her im just annoyed the producers are treating the girls' behaviour like its okay.

[@cgill914]

Yes, thank you! I think Vanessa is misunderstood. I don’t know this for sure, but I feel that she may be neurodivergent and that can make it difficult to interact in social settings. Vanessa definitely made some mistakes, but to me Lexi is the real villain. I get big mean girl vibes from her unfortunately.

[@user-pp5wy8zz8j]

i knew i couldnt watch another season of this. your review is perfect.

[@TT-dv9er]

The FINGER BANGING on this show is pure gold!!!!! TOP MARKS!!! VIVA NETFLIX!!!! VIVA NETFLIX!!!! VIVA NETFLIX!!!!!

[@iziotenth]

These people are so unfaithful to each other, it's really sad. The previous Ultimatum season wasn't nearly this bad...

[@Hanayaaa]

Vanessa is a narcissist and has no empathy and it’s scary asf 💀. First off, before they even went into this it was like she was trying to let Xander down easily by telling her to look for someone that could be special to her and she could see herself with…and then when they hugged her eyes just seemed so dead , it was so terrifying.

[@amberc5457]

Yesss. It seems like she wanted to find someone for herself and move on but had a rude awakening when Xander found someone to love and she didn't.

[@orthenight]

I think it is just SO rich for Lexi to say Vanessa isn't there for the "right reasons" when Lexi is 100% there to grow her OnlyFans income.

[@loonawoods922]

Can wait for your next episode! I actually don't watch reality TV haha just your recaps so I'm exited

[@syphilisma8293]

Lexi was actually the biggest villain on the show (very narrowly beating out vanessa) cannot fathom how anyone can stand her

[@pizzamassacre]

Fr!!

[@pay4739]

i haven’t seen that compilation in years. THANK YOU for reminding me of it.

[@oliviadenman3958]

Vanessa reminds me of that girl (can't remember her name) on Matt James season who was telling all the contestants that one of the other contestants was a prostitute and was smiling while saying it.

[@ElsaT7579]

The Beyond Belief Fact or Fiction montage took me out 🤣🤣

[@laurap256]

I could HEAR your voice while watching, this show was made for you to review! Ok watching now lol

[@KatM272]

Not sure how rae didn’t hide when they got to their room the first night. IN-TENSE

[@thenewtaithotel]

Your videos always make my night, thank you for sharing

[@EllieC130]

Dude ngl, if a dude acted how Vanessa did towards Rae we would all be calling him creepy. All this "I love a good challenge" shit like ew.

[@graciousmarwisa9496]

my three favourite things in tv - gay girlies, girlies fighting and sweet romance

[@carrewen]

YEEES A VIDEO ABOUT THIS SHOW thank you for making these they're so damn entertaining and it makes me so happy knowing im not the only one watching this trash hahaha

[@orthenight]

The hypocrisy of Lexi. The superiority complex of Lexi. She’s literally going off on Vanessa about not thinking Xander would have a connection with anyone else there. Then she loses her shit at Rae having a connection with anyone else but her. The whole scene of Yoly & Lexi bullying Vanessa about having sex with Rae while Yoly fully had sex with Xander was gross. I’m not saying Vanessa doesn’t suck. She does. She sucks. But the hypocrisy, the thinking you’re better than anyone else is GROSS.

[@ariellelillian8644]

AGREED.

[@mawesmo]

The level of hypocrisy is something else. It's like it does not exist for them. They are like, so far as my secret is safe with me I'm fine.

[@chasestrickland3065]

FAX

[@dedel0ve890]

Only ppl with common sense get this

[@asarishepard8171]

Hook up with someone else. Wanna marry me yet? This is the worst relationship idea EVER

[@victoriaskully]

Watched the first episode yesterday. Vanessa is 😂.

[@whyamievendoingthis...]

The questions cut. 🤣

[@girlie720]

I hope that Mal and Lexi become a couple. They seem very like minded. They seem very settled and mature about this whole process. And I think that Xander and Yoly are well matched. So I think that's a win-win. Rae, she plays her cards very close to the vest. I think she has feelings for Lexi, but she's not ready to take that next step and I believe encountering someone as over the top as Vanessa has opened her eyes to what she's had in Lexi. But it may be too late because Lexi's with Mal, and she sees a partner that's reciprocating her feelings for a homelife, marriage and children. I'm baffled by Aussie, for a woman of her age to be so emotionally stunted to me is interesting. Could it be cultural? Could it be the fact that she did not want to come out because of culture. But, then again, you have Mildred being very passive-aggressive, being very used to a toxic style of communication with Tiff. So maybe that shuts Aussie down even more. Who knows but I don't hold out hope for those couples. But, I am absolutely 100%. Rooting for Xander and yoly and Mal and Lexi.

[@refiloendlovu6518]

I need to pause this and binge watch this now!!!!

[@fotimaibrokhim7466]

friendly reminder that being asexual does not mean one cannot form romantically intimate connections with someone else. This incorrect rhetoric about asexuality is harmful

[@lilliebobson3146]

So what is asexuality then?

[@elatafalando]

​@@lilliebobson3146 good question. There are even sex workers saying they are assexual. I just don't understand.

[@bubbles4897]

@@lilliebobson3146 asexuality means you means you experience no sexual attraction. You can still want experience romantic attraction and be asexual. Not that I care much about this, but why did y’all think that word meant you can’t form romantic relationships when the definition is literally….right in the word lol

[@CaribbeanCitizen]

People often confuse asexuality and aromanticism. While these two can go together, they don't always. The Split Attraction Model is helpful for explaining this.

[@jl7662]

In even simpler terms: Xander = not asexual

[@loldoctor]

The rescue 911 clips might be your best edit ever... what a perfect throwback

[@samtmg1652]

Very nice touch at the end there Fantake 😂

[@christineloera2929]

omg i worked in post on this show. LISTEN LESBIANS ARE MESSY TOO OK

[@laurap256]

Y'all did an amazing job. This is so true to lesbian culture (on steroids lol), I love it! Also love how you showed the most normal consent questions and how different kind of attractions were discussed without anyone acting weird about it. Sure, the show is a mess, but it's a lesbian mess so I'll protect it at all cost 😄

[@xx9aznfaith9xx]

Vanessa reminds me of someone appearance-wise but I couldn't figure it out and now I realize it's Caitlyn Jenner!

[@hikkipedia]

Vanessa is one of the scariest reality villains I've seen

[@aubreydeangelo]

Vanessa scared me. Talk about no boundaries.

[@claystripe6514]

Cheyenne's come a long way from Reba

[@girlie720]

Vanessa is the worst villain in reality television in quite some time and let me tell you why. The way she blatantly disrespected Xander at the choice dinner was so awful and so humiliating to everyone. You said you don't wanna marry this woman, but you're sitting there telling her to f off. The woman gets 3 words out when asked a question by the host and Vanessa has to center herself in the conversation, nobody is even talking to you, ma'am. Sit at the end of table and shut the f up. She has to be the center of attention. All eyes have to be on her, and she's just desperately wanting to be the it girl, the hot girl that everybody wants..Lexi called her out on their date and I agree Vanessa is not tethered to anyone, and if you listen to her words and if Xander was listening to her words, she would know that, and she would have left that relationship long before ever giving Vanessa an ultimatum. She's only for herself. I'm not gonna call her narcissist.. I'm gonna call her hedoist. A very immature one hedonist.

[@lexiemaep7930]

Vanessa is a psychopath. That's not a bad thing. She doesn't understand why people feel stuff. She really doesn't understand why people care about each other.

[@papertape7911]

@Lexiemae I'm going to encourage you to not diagnose people on the internet especially when (1) you are not a practicing psychologist, and even if you are, we have no way of verifying that (2) you have never met Vanessa in real life so making such a huge diagnosis based on what you saw on a show that is notorious for editing people as they pleased to create a narrative(3) it's just plain wrong and unethical. We can rightfully criticize and be disappointed in people's actions, behaviors, and how they affect others without diagnosing them over the internet.

[@heatheranderson4948]

I agree with not diagnosing people. However, I do not agree with your comment about editing. The only thing possibly edited with Vanessa are ger actions (like the smiling). Her words are absolutely her and they are wildly insensitive, trashy and abusive at times. She is obviously interested in polyamorous relations and wants to sleep around. There is no editing that.

[@rosegold-sc6fp]

Hahaha! Not the Fact or Fiction clips!!! That was awesome!

[@DianeShira]

Xander. I adore her. She refuses to pile-on her “ex” - even when she has reason, she refuses to “spill tea” just ‘cause, and she stays empathetic and compassionate towards others and self. And she’s hot. And I’m straight and married, but crushing. I like Mal, too. And Lexie. And Mal and Lexie together. But mostly I just ADORE Xander.

[@YouWillGetThereBuddy]

I don’t know man… I was on the Xander train until she told Yoli she’s it and ready to marry her at the cocktail party only to say she doesn’t know later in the evening. Also the way she is leading Vanessa on and telling her they’ll get married or end up together as well.. idk feels a bit scummy.. Like be honest and don’t lie to both people. Be upfront ya know?? I started side eyeing her when she started living with Vanessa again. Yeah Vanessa is a fucking mess and I can write a whole paragraph about her but Xander is leading her on. Also, them both deciding to not get physical with anyone on the show then Xander immediately starts fucking Yoli and get mad that Vanessa fingered Rae…??? Uhmmmmm

[@DianeShira]

@@YouWillGetThereBuddy - valid points after I binged episodes 5 -8 over the past two nights! I still adore Xander yet I can see her sort of "giving in" to Vanessa ("Xander!!, say 'I love you' back""!) out of what I perceive to be an in-the-moment kindness to not make waves with Vanessa. Mal, on the other hand, is SUPER straight-forward with Yoli ... I REALLY appreciate how Mal speaks to Yoli, validating her confusion and giving her space, while being totally honest with her. And you know who's grown on me during the last few episodes? - TIFF!!!! I'm starting to REALLY like them!!! Super cool human.

[@YouWillGetThereBuddy]

@@DianeShira I get that but everyone is just ignoring that Xander is moving shady simply cuz Vanessa is a mess. I agree Vanessa just wants her cuz she wants to be chosen even though she doesn’t actually want Xander. I get just saying shit to appease the situation but she quit literally slept with Vanessa in the three week trial too. She told her on the air balloon that they were ending up together. She doesn’t have to lie in order to appease the situation. You know…?

[@DianeShira]

@@YouWillGetThereBuddy - agree. Xander is so conditioned to ""keep the peace" with Vanessa that she definitely got messy in terms of not not telling Vanessa how she REALLY feels about Yoli.

[@YouWillGetThereBuddy]

@@DianeShira Yeah.. definitely. They shouldn’t be together period. I just don’t like how nobody is calling Xander out on her shit as well is all. Even the getting physical things. Her and Yoli made it seem like Vanessa did the worst thing she could with Rae and aired out her dirty laundry in front of everyone but refused to address that they had sex as soon as they possibly could. It’s just hypocritical.

[@josephinemartin]

Ooof this show is just people tearing their lives apart.

[@ashleycrisman1445]

Mildred in the newer episodes is displaying abusive characteristics as well. Scary like Vanessa.

[@zeeking3929]

This channel is soooo good!

[@mundaneamazing]

This show is such nonesense. I was cracking up at how hard that one tall, blonde one was trying to say "She's not here for the right reasons" without using those exact words. They really did not try to make this show seem real. It got so fake and boring so fast. Honestly, the way the show is so clearly presenting the white cast members in marketing and storylines as the "stars" of the show is peak Netflix.

[@ybdini6428]

Omg YES Renita! Like, this show isn't already a joke. What the hell is Lexi talking about needing to know Vanessa's reason for being there? Like they all aren't trying to get tv famous? Did they really think that having their partner date someone else will in turn make them want to now be married to them? Like come onnnnn, this has got to be scripted. All the couples gotta be already broken up and went on the show to have open sexual relationships.

[@mundaneamazing]

@@ybdini6428 Haha! Truly, a RIDICULOUS premise: "I don't know if I'm ready for marriage. Let's break up and have sex with other people in front of eachother to figure it out." 🤨🤔

[@FUNNYMANERICWHITE]

@@mundaneamazing 😂

[@majanv11]

sorry but what were you expecting from dating tv show? its better than most shows like this and finally no hetero drama

[@hollaatmsv]

So you're just not gonna talk about how awful, inconsiderate & uncompromising Tiff is because someone doesn't wanna sleep with her dog⁉️ Let's just call it what it is...selfish‼️ Mildred isn't much better. She turns into a bit of a bitch by the end & changed my opinion of her. The only thing she is right about is that Tiff is trying to build an entire relationship on good sex. A good match for Tiff would've been Vanessa based on that fact. But her & Mildred deserve each other. I love these shows because they have some truly unlikable people usually. Villans. This season did not disappoint with Vanessa(I hate that she shares the same name as me), Tiff & Mildred. But the surprising thing is there are some truly lovely personalities too. I ❤️ Zander, Mal, Lexi & Sam!!! The jury is still out on Aussie.

[@mij-kb7rg]

Right! My opinion on Mildred changed too. I kind of felt an understanding of her during that convo while Aussie was ironing. Then I remembered back to how hard she tried to come across as considerate (way too hard) in the beginning and the pieces just fell together. I believed Aussie’s side and empathized. She seems fake. I don’t particularly favour Aussie but that’s what I felt

[@laurenbartley5985]

More please! 10/10

[@breajones4012]

I feel like I’m alone on my hill of not hating Vanessa lol I think she came into this show thinking it was stupid and doesn’t understand why everyone else takes it so seriously, especially considering that she knows whole heartedly she’s not gonna get married. She comes on a little strong but it clearly works to her advantage.

[@wanderers5641]

I'm with you 100% I also love Vanessa's confidence. She may not live up to her own hype- but she would never know or care anyway 😅 She just seems to be on an entirely different chapter than everyone else- and that's totally fine (*Xander definitely deserves more, but its on her to figure that out for herself though)

[@adusza8902]

If so why she was crying when Xander said she's gonna choose Lexy? She's narcissistic b**ch that's all

[@ariellelillian8644]

I agree. I think that she thought this was just something her partner wanted to do so she didn’t care and maybe could get promo out of it? Honestly I think Lexi was a little overbearing with her approach to the show. I feel like she wants to get married - period, no matter who it is - and since Vanessa was more or less just doing it to do it she thought that was fake. But it’s not like V tried to stop her partner from participating. She even said out loud multiple times she doesn’t want to get married. So where was she being fake? To be clear, V is definitely a lot and I couldn’t be around her very long, but I just think she’s a highly guarded person masked by a bombastic disposition. Def not all these terrible names people are calling her, Jesus. Lmao

[@wanderers5641]

@@ariellelillian8644 So well said!!

[@breajones4012]

@@ariellelillian8644 yeah I agree with you 100%. I think she came because she knew Xander wanted it and figured she’d have fun. Just because her approach is different from Lexi’s doesn’t mean Vanessa is fake or a horrible person. I think it’s up to Xander to be brave and break up with her. Because clearly they’re not on the same page and will never be on the same page.

[@shreyasharma9530]

New video? About new episodes?

[@ninaprague4798]

I am so glad I dont have to watch these things. Thank you Fantake for taking a bullet for me :)

[@IAmJeka]

How have they been together for 4 years lol. I bet you Xander’s family doesn’t like her lol

[@caseybillups2598]

Is there no part two for this video?? 😢

[@sheskis613]

I screamed with laughter during the Jonathan Frakes montage

[@katy4523]

I know its hard to talk about with YT's strict rules on monetization, but Vanessa acting like Rae forced herself on her and Vanessa was just complying really gives into a dangerous falsehood about queer people.

[@your_lav5278]

I have watch this in Netflix but I want drama so I go to youtube to see the other people's opinion in comments 😂😭