Neumann KH310 vs KH310 & KH750DSP Stereo & REW room correction vs Auratone in a living room studio

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Please listen with studio headphones. At the end of this video you'll see a couple of photos with dimension in metrics so you can get a perspective of the room, treatments and acoustics. I did the room correction measurement with REW and a calibrated mic XREF20 from Sonarworks. Then I built the correction curve manually using the neumann.control app to programm the KH705 DSP Neumann won't let you measure and control a subwoofer stereo setup. Also this MA1 system is working like a best buy surround receiver setup so my grandmother can do it. In result you as an professionell have no control. The only way doing it in a proper way is using REW for measurement and then build up the correction curve manually by try and error. Using the Neumann control app for this procedure has another huge failure that Neumann keeps resisting to fix You can't control a stereo sub setup neither. But there is an workaround, you have to set up two individual studio presets and put manually all the parameters by finger on your iPad - yes manually because this crappy app can't even copy and paste between presets and you can't type values into fields you have to use your fingertips. I had a lot of discussions with Neumann but I gave it up they just don't care stupidity or arrogance probably both.

[@kanshishi8230]

hahahahahahahahah，veryveryvery helpful，especially the last paragraph.It looks like they didn’t plan to work hard on the software like Genelec.

[@rajusrivastav2078]

Greetings I have a pair of kh310 and was planning to add stereo kh750 to the setup. It seems mA1 doesnt support stereo sub setup. Can you guide me through the process of doing it manually? Couldn't find anything helpful on the internet so far. I cant take a risk of investing on the subs if it doesnt work. Thank you

[@you2ber252]

Oh noooo.... this is really bad news, that Neumann doesn't allow us to set up a stereo pair of KH750 with the MA1 soft! Especially because I've just ordered a pair of KH750 and the MA1 thing, and they're on their way.... This adds another BIG reason to why I am no longer so convinced of having made the right purchase, also because comparing the max SPL of the subs with the max SPL of KH310A monitors, looks like that at the same given distortion rate, say 3%, the KH310 have higher SPL across the entire spectum that their woofer can reproduce! So it appears that I will only get a little deeper bass, without any increase in dynamic range, or worse with a decrease. Indeed, I would have much appreciated if you could compare calibrated KH310 + KH750 against calibrated KH310, and not against uncalibrated KH310. I bet there would be no difference, sonically speakihg, if not for the deeper bass that would hardly be noticeable in the track you used. Please, prove me wrong!

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

@@you2ber252 The KH310 doesn't have a DSP built in. The only reason I put up this system is to achieve the lower bass and a DSP to control the KH310 too. I never missed dynamics on a normal working level. If you need that club feeling you better go with ATC50 and above. Please let us know how MA1 worked for you.

[@Jam-vo7le]

Do you use digital input of kh750?

[@danielcross1718]

This video is definitely gold. These monitors called my attention when people started complaining about they being "too flat" lol. It's just amazing how they translate compared to the track file. Absolutely brilliant 🙌🏼

[@WorstViktorEU]

the punchiness and mids on those KH310 + KH750 combo is sooo nice.

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Indeed I'm so happy with this setup.

[@WorstViktorEU]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production I really want a subwoofer to be honest but I think my room is going to give me problems (15m2). Kh750 and kh80 seems so tempting to get now..

[@RonnieVaiArovo]

This is how ALL sound demos should be, Well played sir! 👌👌👌

[@FunFreakeyy]

Wow your studio really is an inspiration. Of course I've seen a lot of big studios that sadly aren't achieveable, but your studio is on a scale that is totally possible to do. Thank you for this video!

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Thanks so much!

[@Solus793]

The room corrected Neumann's sound so good compared to the reference track it beggars belief, the performance is just incredible.

[@LipazMusic]

Since version 1.2.0 (27/May/2021) dual sub alignment in one setup is possible with Neumann MA1.

[@Genital.Wartzenegger]

God damn the more I look into Neumann the more I’m leaning into getting a pair

[@Genital.Wartzenegger]

Ha wow this video came up and didn’t remember watching it. This is a year ago and since then I’ve gotten the kh420’s. Next purchase will be the two subs. Maybe next year lol

[@ACDevastation]

@@Genital.Wartzenegger what made you get the 420s? I have the 310s and am considering a single sub, but two is tempting.

[@tarekmansur]

Hi! SPOT ON the sound of the KH310 solo! I had the KH310 and tried to get used to them but they were too flat and boring for my ear. They sounded better paired with thee KH750DSP. I sold mine after 1 1/2 year. I bought the Genelec 8340 and GLM auto calibration kit. I'm so happy with the sound in the studio now. I have a small room and I guess the 310 was little big for my space. Still the Genelec 8340 sounds deeper and much more clear and they are smaller than the 310.

[@nonana6340]

Thank you for providing such a useful video, I really appreciate it. I am setting up a 2.2 system with dual 310 + dual 750 like you, but I have a small question, can you help me? I have looked through your comments and profile, but I can’t find the answer. Do I need to input the analog signal L to both 750s at the same time (and R likewise)? How did you do it?

[@christianoffergeld9604]

Push!

[@trayoibry8246]

wow...never been a fan of room correction but this is very impressive

[@teashea1]

Good video - Well done. That is a powerful and fine speakers system. I like the fact that you use them so nearfiled. That really minimizes the effects of room reflections. (I have 310's, 120's with a 750 and 150's).

[@aidanknight]

daaaaaamn the subs plus 310's plus room correction sounds really good. is this using sonarworks or the neumann correction DSP?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Neumann DSP

[@nate_creates]

Wow, this test was eye opening. I can't believe how close to the original audio the calibrated KH310 + 750 sound. Are you using Sonarworks to perform the correction? If not, what are you using? Also, what is that track?? It's great! Thanks for the video.

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Hey thanks, you'll find all information and links in the video description.

[@nate_creates]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production Well that was very silly of me. Sorry about that! Thanks for the fast reply.

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

@@nate_creates np

[@sebomusic]

Would love to hear a comparison between this exact setup and one corrected with Neumann’s own MA 1 system. Thanks

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

That wouldn't work because stupidly Neumann won't let you measure and control a subwoofer stereo setup. Also this MA1 system is working like a best buy surround receiver setup so my grandmother can do it. In result you as an professionell have no control. The only way doing it in a proper way is using REW for measurement and then build up the correction curve manually by try and error. Using the Neumann control app for this procedure has another huge failure that Neumann keeps resisting to fix You can't control a stereo sub setup neither. But there is an workaround, you have to set up two individual studio presets and put manually all the parameters by finger on your iPad - yes manually because this crappy app can't even copy and paste between presets and you can't type values into fields you have to use your fingertips. I had a lot of discussions with Neumann but I gave it up they just don't care stupidity or arrogance probably both.

[@sebomusic]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production Thanks for the heads up about the MA1 system! I’m also planning to add two subs to my 310’s, but was really wondering how you got rid of the Neumann logos from the subs? I thought they were LED‘s like on the 310‘s 🤔

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

@@sebomusic No LED just stickers to peel off

[@FunFreakeyy]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production What a shame about their MA1 system. Maybe it's another department that is responsible for it, because their speakers are obviously great.

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

@@FunFreakeyy That's exactly what appears to be, I never experienced such a discrepancy. Hardware top, software flop

[@Strepite]

Is it okay to put subs on the speakers like that? Any downsides when it comes to sound?

[@davidjamieson1144]

Great vid - thanks. This is one hell of a setup! The trapping is spectacular as well as the Neumann system. Building a new studio from the ground up and plan to build around this same setup so really interesting to see. :)

[@davidjamieson1144]

Can I ask what made you go straight to 2 subs? - did you try it with a single one at all?

[@teabreakbeats]

at 5:19 I thought you 7 x 5 = 35 cylinder bass traps behind the speaker instead of it being a separate room lol! I'm thinking of getting the 310s and then an upgrade path would be one sub then two subs!

[@dandelionboy7820]

Literally everything about your set up is what I've been wanting for a few months. 310s with a pair of auratones. Was gonna get the 310s without the subs bc I didn't think I'd needed the sub and would prefer not to add the extra cross over and then having to phase align the satellites with the sub...I thought the 310s alone would be sufficient and if not I'd add only one sub. But these perform so well with the added DSP and the lowend gets really tight and controlled. I can hear every reverb begin and end. What kind of sound treatment are you using? I have never seen cylinders of sound treatment being used like that. Could you post info about that? Why did you place your cloud so low and why did you set up everything on the short wall?

[@doublecyrille]

Did you make those tube traps yourself or are they the Hofa bass traps? They look very similar. I have 4 of them and quite happy with the result they gave me but am thinking of getting more.

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Yes these are HOFA

[@sebomusic]

Did the height of the sub give you additional acoustic problems compared to placing it on the floor? I know Neumann recommends floor placement 1/3rd or 1/4th width of the room, maybe you used these guidelines just floor to ceiling? What about isolation between the sub and speaker, did that have any importance? and what exact material do you have in between them, Sorbothane? I asked Neumann regarding placement of stereo subs and isolation between them when placed on top of each other, but they don’t seem to be in a rush with an answer 🤷🏼‍♂️ Thanks 😊

[@SoundNestRO]

I want to know this too! Did they replied to you?

[@sebomusic]

@@SoundNestRO Unfortunately, still no answer.

[@soundflo_w]

Hi, I see you are not absorbing your sidewall reflections, which is considered common practice. Could you please tell me why? Thanks!

[@s.h.a.m.r.i.k]

Two subs are used? how are they calibrated all together? Can this be done through Neumann MA 1?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

No, despite Neumann has a configuration list published in writing for a stereo bass extended setup neither the control app nor the overpriced mic can handle two subs. The only way do deal with it is to configure two separate studio setups in the app and try to fiddle in all the values from one side to the other. Its a pain in the ass and Neumann ist resisting to fix that mess. I talk to them for a year about this but no way. I'm not sure whats their problem is, arrogance or stupidity or both. Who knows.

[@faithhopelove6945]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production Sounds not good at all..." Thanks

[@cr5721]

I've been looking at getting KH310 with 2 x Sub KH750's and the M1A mic for room correction, exactly what I needed to see, great review... I want to do my final mix / master on such a system as well as general high quality music listening for pleasure... Have also looked at Adam S3V and 2 x Sub 10 but a lot have advised me go with KH310 and dual KH750.

[@ARCASIAUK]

Did you end up going with the the KH750 sub with the 310s? I am considering the sub don’t know whether to do so or not.

[@cr5721]

@@ARCASIAUK No I didn't get the KH750 I ended up going with the Jones Scanlon big Reds they're 10" monitors which go super low and don't require a sub, but I also ended up with their 15" subwoofer which is more expensive than the $12k outlay for the pair of Reds... I also had a Kali Audio IN-8 MkII and their 15" sub and it's not far off the mark for accuracy to the Big Reds and their sub, of course some resolution is gone but only a smidge and for mixing I would say their perfectly fine, they're in one room and my Big Reds and their Sub in my mastering area (I'm just in a home studio) but they translate perfect... I would think the KH310 and KH750 would do the same, don't really need a pair of them, but saying that, in my final listening music / mastering room I have hand made towers and two REL S812 subwoofers and having 2 is just sublime in a stereo pair, but having one for mixing is fine I would think, 2 could be better but maybe a little more adjustment to get it perfect... Good luck with your search, I think the KH subs would be just fine, their a very honest, no bloat system and will give you the truth in your mixes and can trust them... For me I just liked the sound of the KALI and Big Reds 10" Warren Huart from Produce LIke a Pro reviewed the big reds on KZbin and they also have a sub, but super expensive but I'm happy I'm still paying mine off... Love em🙂

[@josuastangl7140]

@@cr5721Incredible setup! Are the Kali IN-8 v2s really THAT good? I'm undecided between those and Neumann KH120As. Both without a sub for now. Higher end smaller 2-way or bigger Kali 3-way, what do you think?

[@adammusic1124]

@@josuastangl7140 I depends on your listening area, my rooms for the Kali's I'm listening at about 1.2 metres in a listening triangle and with Sonarworks, they're really close to perfect, I can hear the low end and when it's boomy when mixing low end, but also have a footswitch to turn the subwoofer off when just mixing mids and higher frequencys, the low end is still there, but the sub is a great double stop... I would go Neumann KH 120A with a smaller Nuemann sub if you're in a smaller space, apparently the Neumann's have a really dry, but honest sound (I've never heard them, so if you're thinking of going that way, I would demo a pair)... Alternatively, the KALI IN-8's maybe enough, even I had some Yamaha MSP7's before and the stock standard Yamaha MSP8 Sub and still mixed some great mixes with Sonarworks room correction on... I don't think you could go wrong with either the Neumann KH120A's and small sub, or KALI IN-8 and thier sub both would be lovely to work on and once you know them and tune your ears to them, you should be ok... Try and get a demo of them for 30 days and do some mixes on the IN-8 V2's and Neuman KH120A and see how you go, I think the IN-8's would be fine on their own even, but you may need a sub with the smaller KH120's it's all taste and what you're working on if it's bass heavy or not (but what I find is, even if it's not base heavy, mixing vocals and getting the lower end "MUD" frequencies from certain instruments that you cannot hear without a bass makes it essential if you're mastering you're own work)... I have two floor standing speakers in my main lounge listening room and a stack of 3 REL Sub S812 subs (6 in total) for hearing the "Space" NOT the low end or bass (as only 1 does that) it's more about hearing the "air" and low hum of certain air and space around instruments and rooms that you can detect and tweak perfectly once you hear it, but you cannot fix what you cannot hear... Perfect balance would be Kali or Neumann setup I think (I've just gone overboard) LOL 🤣. but hope my reply helps you.

[@c1ferrari]

Congratulations on an awesome monitoring system and exemplary instructive video! Effusive thanks!

[@Strepite]

The thing with Neumanns are that they are not as "hyped" as some others like ATC, Barefoot (Neumann actually used the "magic" mid dome from ATC and decided to ditch it). That's great because the price is not hyped too. The truth, neutral sounding monitors, once you get the mix good on them it will translate on other systems. Yes, FLAT is good, seems like kids nowadays want HI-FI speakers in their studios. Nonsense...

[@zinu_98]

where is kh750 neumann logo?

[@dorsia6938]

Wow, very telling test. You've given me the idea to do something similar with my genelecs.

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Which Genelec do you have? I used the good old 1032 for about 25 years!

[@dimitrisbourgiotis]

Thanks a lot for posting the pics in the end, I would love to know if the tube traps are home made and if you could provide some info about them. I use the kh 120s & I am thinking about integrating a 750 sub, as I am experiencing some room modes in the 60-120 Hz area.

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

The tube traps are from Hofa its a germany based company. If you are in Europe located I think you can get them via Thomann www.thomann.de/de/hofa_bass_breitband_absorber.html

[@dimitrisbourgiotis]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production thanks a lot, indeed I am. I will check them :)

[@jonasdrema]

really good demo - any chance you could do another demo with a few more tracks from different genres?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

The choice of the test track wasn't about genre its more important to find a track with a wide range of signals in an uncluttered production quality so the listeners can focus on certain transients, frequencies, and imaging. Especially the super deep offbeat bass starting at 0:50 makes this track perfect for this comparison.

[@jonasdrema]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production word

[@gino3286]

Hi ! i have a question about this wonderful system. Do you think that a similar extraordinary performance could be obtained also with a sub + 2 ways satellite combination ? like the same sub plus the KH 120 ? Thanks a lot Kind regards, gino

[@faithhopelove6945]

So, how did U do the EQ Correction for SUB and the KH310? Via Neuman Controle App?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Yes I did but with some hurdles. You'll find more information in my pinnend comment!

[@phillipphillip367]

Great video! Thank you! Could you tell me please, how far is your listening position from the Kh310 without Sub? I wonder if listeing position 1,20 m is normal? Or is it too little for 3-way speakers? I am currently using kh120 at a distance of 1.2 meters and do not know if kh310 will work at the same distance.

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

5:17 shows test mics position which is exactly my listening position. It's a little on the short side due to my room and setup but still a very good compromise overall.

[@phillipphillip367]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production my apologies, I saw it too late. To be honest, I'm surprised the 3-way speakers sound so great at such a short distance! So I think there should be no problems at a distance of 1.2 meters! I love my kh120s, but I really miss the feeling when immersed in music, I miss the big sound! I hope kh310 will give this "Big Sound" feeling

[@annekedebruyn7797]

When listening in the room, how much worth it is stacking the sub on the monitors versus having one on the ground?

[@toumbas]

amazing video! I do have a question. If I could possibly setup my subs at ear level like yours, would be beneficial or worst than on the floor as usual? thanks

[@OlcayDemirci]

Great content man ! Thank you for sharing. Could you please give more info about those ''tubes'' you use behind the subwoofer and the wall like panles behind the o310s. Also we see a boost on approx. 60Hz while you are not using subs. Is i that before the calibration with rev ? I mean only the o310 + sub sound calibrated ?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Tubes: "Hofa Bass Traps" - Wall: Ikea Kalax filled with "Ikea Pillows" - KH310 no calibration.

[@OlcayDemirci]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production Thank you 🙏🏼💐 I'm about to buy KH310 or Amphion One18 sadly no demo chance in my country:( Did you have any experience with the amphions ?

[@tiofnaz9618]

really interesting! but aren't the speakers too close ?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

just far enough to make it work.

[@tiofnaz9618]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production 😉😊

[@peterpetrus5484]

I found this video How did you connect two subs. L output from DA - to L/A input sub - to kh 310 input ? with xlr cables. Is it dual mono? or stereo Thank you.

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Please read my pinned comment

[@WilliamJohnston]

Is the calibration process any easier if you just use a single 750 sub? And would you say a single 750 is worth it being paired with the 310s - can it keep up and is the addition of DSP worth it?

[@alvanoto9094]

Thank you for this great comparison. May I ask you if dual 750 make a Hughe difference compared to one 750? I habe the KH310/KH750 combo and think about a second 750 unit.

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Phasing effects for stereo widening became very important in the sub bass range. So if you want to hear exactly whats going on, you definitely need two subs. Actually I don't consider this as a subwoofer setup rather as an extended stereo full range system.

[@christophheimel2766]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production thanks for response. Neumann staff told me the best way to use two kh750 is a mono chain. Did you try both option mono/stereo for both 750?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

@@christophheimel2766 why would I use them in mono. again I'ts a stereo full range system with extended bass range provided by the KH750.

[@Justadudeye]

You are right, todays music even has stereo sub sounds so it makes sense

[@thepanicroommastering2062]

Neumann recommend dual Mono because the Ma1 Measuring System does not provide two Subs in a Stereo L/R Configuration. So can i ask you how did you measure your "Stereo Sub" System with only one xRef 20Mic? I guess your Results would be even better with the Neumann Ma1 System and two Mono Subs (playing exactly the same) because this Ma1 System will lock the Subs perfectly to the 310's. I think its a small Degree to decide whats more important for you, a perfecly alligned & calibrated "Neumann Made" 310/750 System or a good "Hand Made" Full Stereo System as yours. Anyway Thanks for the Video Bro 👍 Edit: found your answers ...thanks !

[@Truth565]

Brilliant demonstration and I’m sure you got a few people head scratching 👍🏾. Could let me know what the crossover frequency is between the subs and the 310’s is? As it seems like the 310’s reveal more mid range with 750’s as opposed to the 750’s just extending the low end.

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

80 Hz

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Indeed the 310's bass woofer has much less to work, it helps a lot on the low-mid range

[@Truth565]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production Thanks Kirk. That’s useful.

[@minja38]

Thank you very much for the video. Do the kick drums from the 310s without subwoofers sound boomy because it is not room corrected? or because it is not with subwoofers? I've been saving up for 310s and now I'm confused because with and without subwoofers are too different. With subwoofers, it sounds very close to the source. I hope it is because of the room correction because I can't afford the woofers. Thanks for the video agina!

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

The correction is processed in the subs and can also pass those eq settings to the KH310. If you run the KH310 on its own and want to have room correction you gonna need an external DSP.

[@Lordxfx]

I am super impressed by the sonic accomplishment. Correct me if I'm wrong, the acoustic treatment in your listening environment almost exceeds the price of you extended monitoring system?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Thanks so much! Well you're right on the money I had spent around 5k euro for acoustics

[@Lordxfx]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production I just felt that those monitors are great, but that listening environment had a lot of love. Thanks for clearing that up! One more thing, it looked deceivingly small, but It's the other way around.

[@SilverStrings25]

Would be interesting to hear kh310 alone with room correction vs kh310&kh750 with room correction

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Well, the KH310 doesn't have a DSP built in. The whole EQ correction happens in the KH750DSP and once the KH310 is driven by the KH750DSP it doesn't run in full range anymore.

[@jaimequijano9]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production What kind of signal did you send to the Kh750? Digital or analog? The first option seems neater, but I am worried that it forces the user to use digital volume control (in the ipad?), with the associated loss in resolution...

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

@@jaimequijano9 Analog

[@jaimequijano9]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production Thanks! If you could compare that to the digital input, it would be very interesting.

[@SilverStrings25]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production I see I though it was software room correction

[@oyosounds6800]

The KH750 was already on my mind, but this video made me purchase them. Really happy with how they sound and the DSP option is amazing. One question, how/why did you remove the Neumann logo emblems?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

It's a thing of my aesthetics I guess. The logos at the 310s are lightened so double appearance one glowing the other not just bugged me. They are easily tp peel off.

[@oyosounds6800]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production I'm asking because it's bugging me for the exact same reason haha. Might be a stupid question but would removing the logo void warranty?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

@@oyosounds6800 I really don't know

[@oyosounds6800]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production already sent out an e-mail. Thanks!

[@theredfaceofficial]

@@oyosounds6800what did they say? Any update?

[@J.M.81]

Thanks for this video :) - funny to listen to the 310 Version through some 310's and having an instant familiar feeling :D - will add the 750 soon as well

[@mixedbydense]

Waao 😋 Great Video, But hows the connection goes with 2 Subs ?

[@brianmartin7710]

what do you think about the MA1 room correction? They say its optimized for the neumann speskers. have you tested it?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

No I didn't and I still prefer REW which gives me fully control.

[@ILove_808]

Can you put the REW filters in ableton or cubase after measure? In a kind of Vst on the master

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

REW doesn't have filters it's a measurement software. The eq correction happens in the DSP's of the KH750. Thats why KH750DSP :)

[@sonicsaviouryouwillnotgetm6678]

boy oh boy the absorbtion in your setup

[@sonicsaviouryouwillnotgetm6678]

ah I see, you are not using Neumanns correction system. So the computer makes the corrections while you listen back?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

I did the room correction measurement with REW and a calibrated mic XREF20 from Sonarworks. Then I built the correction curve manually using the neumann.control app to programm the KH705 DSP Neumann won't let you measure and control a subwoofer stereo setup. Also this MA1 system is working like a best buy surround receiver setup so my grandmother can do it. In result you as an professionell have no control. The only way doing it in a proper way is using REW for measurement and then build up the correction curve manually by try and error. Using the Neumann control app for this procedure has another huge failure that Neumann keeps resisting to fix You can't control a stereo sub setup neither. But there is an workaround, you have to set up two individual studio presets and put manually all the parameters by finger on your iPad - yes manually because this crappy app can't even copy and paste between presets and you can't type values into fields you have to use your fingertips. I had a lot of discussions with Neumann but I gave it up they just don't care stupidity or arrogance probably both.

[@sonicsaviouryouwillnotgetm6678]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production thanks for the detailed answer. I really hope they improve the app.

[@brianmartin7710]

I ask myself if I need 1 or 2 KH750s in my studio (7m x 6m x 2,80m) with my KH 310s. Any Idea Kirk? Does it also works with 1 Sub?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

1 Sub is a completely different listening experience. My system isn't a system with a subwoofer its a 4 way stereo system. If you just concern sound pressure in a big room you might stack multiple subs.

[@antonkirichenko8494]

Wah!!! Thanks! What about Focal Trio 11 vs Adam S3H?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Can't say, never had a chance listen to them.

[@knutruello2247]

nice ORTF near coincident pair

[@the_newvoice]

DSP sounds better than refference)) The only thing to notice right away is slightly uneven highs. But overall rough lover midrange is much more pleasing. So it might be in he mix if not double check... cool to have this system. Seems like completely not disturbing. But cost a lot for me, of course. Especially if I have only one pair of cheap 8 inch)

[@the_newvoice]

*Just notice it's a REW correction not MA1. I didn't knew that REW can be for correction, not just measurements.

[@djrobtech]

KH310 vs Focal SM9 please :)

[@gabrielezuffada8164]

Thanks! This is awesome!

[@Raymanuelmuzik]

Are you using The neumann dsp for room correction?

[@Kirk-Monteux-Production]

Yes I do

[@Raymanuelmuzik]

@@Kirk-Monteux-Production how does it compare to Sonarworks? is it better? I am considering grabbing the kh80 just for this feature.

[@brianmartin7710]

wow! thank you!

[@DeAdler_13]

well the original file and the ma1 reference sound aalmost the same

[@EarlyMist]

Why two subs? I am buying one...I hope it is adequate...

[@dmitryforz861]

WOOOOH!!!! I like that.. Thanks

[@poleznyi_ekibastuzets]

Искал русский комментарий, а его нету?

[@___joez]

Those don't look like RTA mics tho

[@cryptout]

Very nice 👍

[@UrbanGarden-rf5op]

I'm listening to this though my KH-310's so I don't really know how to interpret this😉 ✌✌

[@Nullllus]

Wooooooooooooahhh!

[@NateJDrums]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@CurtisGabrielMusic]

I fail to understand what this audio is demonstrating? whatever the viewer is listening through, first of all that is what they will be hearing the sound of, plus the sound of the mic etc etc. Is all we are really hearing hear is an EQ curve, and not one that correlates in any real way. Speakers are far more than an EQ curve. This test is flawed at every turn, surely? I have Neumann 310's and this does not sound anything like them.

[@Zenvo-uu9tm]

This video is NOT meant to reproduce the playback in a transparent way, but give you a relative perspective between flat 310 and 310 paiRed with the dsp correction against the wav file. Check how when the dsp is engaged the sound is tighter more detailed and defined compared to the flat 310 setup. Even if it's not a true representation of the original playback itself it still reveal enough differences in tightness and definition and can give you a solid idea. The perceived enhanced definition can not be obtained by a generic eq curve only, it's compensating for phase alignment and room reverbation also. Tighter more defined reproduction usually equate a better mixing setup. I disagree that it's not a useful video. It gave me enough info to consider ordering a kh750 myself, run a test in my own room, and ending up with similar results

[@derHerrMueller2]

Das ist alles vorrausehbar gewesen

[@derHerrMueller2]

Insgesamt gaga das serup

[@zerberk]

good video, good job, terrible monitor speaker placement