Nevada just DROPPED A BOMBSHELL that put Tesla’s Semi on the FASTLANE to domination! Hydrogen DIED

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[@swampcastle8142]

Tesla should be building trailer installed batteries. Trucks don't always sit overnight while they are unloaded. Many drop off a trailer, pick up a new trailer, and then hit the road again. Trailers could also have a few thousand watts of solar panels of the roof for bonus charging or untethered yard charging.

[@100pyatt]

This is actually a genius idea and logical from the industry standpoint. Trailers should be the big fuel reserve for the tractor unit and recharging with solar on the roof while they're sitting at shippers and receivers... Even plugging into SHORE POWER at the Docks !! 🏆🏆🏆✅

[@nicynu6202]

@@100pyatt this may work for short haul, noting the weight penalty of putting a heavy battery under a trailer, however this will not work for long haul unless the battery can be swapped out.

[@ChasL704]

​@@nicynu6202 Let's let them finish the truck before we make predictions that have already been debunked.

[@markplott4820]

BESTinTesla - breaking news , Rivian adopts NACS & gains Supercharger access.

[@donovanSMMsvlog1583]

Hyundai and Rivian just announce that they are joining the tesla charging system.

[@SyntheticSpy]

Hyundai did too!? I had heard about Rivian but this is awesome to hear

[@Last_one_before_I_go]

On the way home from work last week I was on 680 North out of Fremont going up the Sunol Grade I passed a Tesla Semi going the same way that Frito-Lay must own - Cool to see !!!

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Very very very cool indeed

[@marcorocci-ct7kw]

Big question. Does Tesla have to tell SEC and the public, when they activate the big 5Billion $ buyback programme, or could it come suddenly in jan 23? No one wants to miss this opportunity of the decade, and I bet Elon will release all the hidden upsides(not difficult as there are many he hasn’t mentioned yet), making the rebound speedy. I wouldn’t like to miss such an opportunity to make such a shit load of money I’m thinking about $500,000 dollars with a substantial capital waiting for the right time because it’ll be a shame to loose such an amount of money especially in the current economic climes

[@Emily-le2op]

well the bigger the risk, the bigger the reward and such impeccable trades are better executed by professionals.

[@geraldantonio3160]

@@bobbyblue1499 How can one find a resourceful FA, I buy the idea of employing their services, its a shame market crashes as of late have become a sort of habit for stocks

[@castletown999]

The thing about Tesla trucks that is forgotten is that at some point it will be self driving. Tesla is strangely quiet about this, and I suspect they don't want to get union opposition. But it's inevitable don't you think?

[@danzZ57]

They will be self driving but I bet they make a driver mandate for saftey.

[@massatube]

Castletown Utter crap. FSD will never be allowed on the roads for trucks.

[@HaloNRW]

07:50 poor man 🤣

[@jpen5599]

Jeah THAT HURT!

[@patmcdaniel2016]

Something no one mentions, fuel cells only last so long (not 100,000 miles) and will need to be replaced or rebuilt. That is very expensive. And will need to done for every single vehicle you own.

[@Tron-Jockey]

True, the PEM stack doesn't last forever. Not sure but I'm pretty sure it doesn't last 100k miles. The PEM stack is also rather expensive as it uses platinum.

[@woodyhunt]

Wow! Did not know!

[@stigbengtsson7026]

Ya, and here in Sweden, it is the same for gas (methane) driven cars, and it cost you $4000 per car. I do not know how long the periode that you can drive, I only knows that the cars looks quite new, when it it time for gastank exchange 😅 and it is $4000.

[@LG-qz8om]

The decay raye is related to the impurities in the fuel & oxidizer. In a closed-cycle they remain pure and the Fuel Cell has near infinite lifespan. In a polluted environment it slowly destroys the Fuel Cell with those contaminants. So one could use a FC like a battery and it would be just as long lasting.

[@shepherdsknoll]

@@LG-qz8omis that a government regulation rating ? If not , there a lot of people in a submersible submarine that might disagree with you.

[@chargeheadsuk]

Fantastic video footage, great content, Lars you are smashing it with this update! 💪⚡️🔋

[@massatube]

Tesla EV trucks can't hack it

[@davidbuchan3753]

Hyundai BlackBerry is right…! Who the hell ‘designs’ those? 😂

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Kia Kodak???

[@whowhy9023]

Great content Lars. Thank you.

[@billbell3737]

I looked at this many years ago. At that time the tanks would have to be replaced every few years. I think it was 5 years. Very expensive maintenance.

[@100pyatt]

$150,000 battery to replace every 1.5 years or 150-200k miles. This EV scam is going to destroy the supply chain with stupidity

[@HarmonixHealing]

What a Badass Channel ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

[@jean-marcaiello3055]

I always love to watch your show, congrat👏🏻

[@richardackley1823]

Wow Lars EXCELLENT presentation. Great coverage comparing Hydrogen to Electric. And when you take into consideration the availability of Hydrogen over Electric, and the dangers involved, its gotta be Tesla hands down.

[@billcichoke2534]

Hmmm. You DO realize that there's not enough power available to charge on a MEGAWATT scale, right? You also know that at least 3 companies produce and store cryogenics, right? And they have shops ALL OVER THE COUNTRY? So there's far more available infrastructure for hydrogen than there is power for charging. Oh, as to the dangers of hydrogen...it can be put out with ABC extinguishers. Lithium battery fires don't get put out. They burn until all the batteries are consumed, and they poison and burn down most everything around them. Hydrogen makes...water. With the weakening of the grid and drops in power due to wind and solar installation, that disparity is only going to get worse.

[@deniszorc9210]

awesome video, perfectly put together ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️

[@mikecounsell]

This deserves more exposure!! 🎉

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Great first date starter video or no ?

[@jeremyboesmans]

Love the comparison with mini disc and MP3, you nailed it

[@ralphpetry1745]

I hear you can make a small fortune in hydrogen - as long as you start with a large fortune! If you just look at the advancements and adoption in EV's compared to fool cells, it is hard to imagine hydrogen ever gaining traction. They started to build a hydrogen station where I live, got half way through, and stopped and now is inhabited by cobwebs and tumbleweeds. I think there are a few Toyota Murai boat anchors for sale if anyone is interested.

[@SmithsMobile]

Hydrogen is an absolute waste of space in road vehicles, industry needs it but other than that shell and the likes are flogging a dead horse

[@jbwhalen8865]

"fool cells"...😏

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

A good talk about where hydrogen is used today and what it can and cannot be used for in the future by a chemical engineer that has been in the hydrogen industry for decades. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGOTY6Cagsuhq5o

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Toyota is proof

[@Lifecoach7Ra]

Fuel Cells might be a good idea in a slow process e.g. German PICEA system from Berlin to convert PV power into hydrogen and store in standard low pressure bottles used worldwide. So in June/July in central Europe and with around 25 square meters PV you have enough energy for cold winter! But the truck experiment in Switzerland shows even that hydrogen from excess energy is rubbish as well as the companies involved believe in this technology. The only chance I would see for Methanol Fuel Cells e.g. Aiways/Gumpert. But BEV will always beat hydrogen in TCO and well to wheel considerations! Fuel cells need intensive servicing and the system is by far complexer than a Tesla Semi! Only advantage of the Hyundai hydrogen is the cab design for Europe! We have more narrow roads over here where we cannot use US trucks for more than show purposes.

[@manx3987]

From what I've read, the electric grid is not set up to handle a large volume of electric semis. The grid just isn't ready to replace even a small percentage of the diesel trucks any time soon.

[@100pyatt]

Correct, the electrical grid wouldn't even support a 10% industry semi truck changeover to electric. The National grid would utterly collapse

[@SmithsMobile]

Oh dear God that red thing that came out of the hydrogen explosion had that poor man's name on it 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dk17th]

He zigged when he should have zagged.

[@chrisheath2637]

SMR said he should have been on Athletic Greens....

[@billh3860]

His having moved at the time cost the man his life.

[@SmithsMobile]

@@billh3860 It killed him? Doubt it....

[@robertwalker9130]

Brilliant video . Thanks for widening my understanding of the future .

[@MikeHewitt]

Thankful for your content. Keep it up man 👍

[@MrGillfish5]

I miss your signature slap and "dive right in". Good info as always.

[@camlegs2423]

I wish our council would just watch this! They are talking to the Hydrogen company you mentioned.

[@user299792]

The bill has just 10 pages! In Germany it would be a 60 page bill, and you would have to hire a lawyer to understand it.

[@slowercuber7767]

@7:36 and there I was thinking the guy in the next stall was lucky... no high pressure H2 for me.

[@trkarst82]

As a Las Vegas native, I'm impressed that you said Nevada correctly. Most people (including most Americans) say it incorrectly.

[@vaughnmcmillan8400]

You spelled Loss Wagess wrong. 😅

[@alexmckenna1171]

You've got all the Facts! Those clips of Hydrogen explosions were shocking...

[@sherwiny89]

What about diesel trucks from other states crossing Nevada? Are there access limits or road usage penalties?

[@vtr-vegasteslarides569]

Thanks for the info I didn't know About my state.

[@petersimms4982]

It would be fantastic if they were both viable , as always though something or someone has to be better ! 😊

[@scottsorensen4840]

Hey Lars, just wanted to thank you for pronouncing Nevada correctly! (Like a native) From a fellow Dane, Scott

[@lilyandmike]

That would be awesome for EV Semi-Fleet Corp.! They ordered 50 in Central FL. 🎉

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Will truckers incorporate in Nevada? To get this 175 grand?

[@MrDesoto33]

How heavy are they?

[@rodmitchell831]

Thanks Lars.....awesome news

[@chrisose4585]

I’m laughing like Dr. Evil and holding my pinky up

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Waaaaaaaaay too much info

[@SmithsMobile]

The 2023 Blackberry LOL That was cruel but so funny 😂😂😂

[@zhanjas]

I wonder if there is any video about Tesla semi shot by real truck drivers. So far the clips I can find on line are all from the Tesla ads, which is kind of suspicious.

[@ingo_8628]

If they could deliver, seems Pepsi has only 36 of its 100 units, not to speak of other customers.

[@ed1pk]

Hope that guy was OK! 😮 7:34 had no idea they could explode like that.

[@surferdude4487]

With high pressure hydrogen systems, It's not IF the fuel tanks will rupture, but more a matter of when.

[@perlaursen1885]

Very rare, that someone on the tube, can put compelling music on a video, so it sounds and looks like a good Tarantino movie. Lars sure got talent. 😎

[@jps99]

Great video!

[@alechorn1109]

Latest studies show that Hydrogen released to atmosphere destroys hydroxide ions in upper atmosphere which are the normal scavengers of methane, a significant greenhouse gas. Accordingly it has been shown that released hydrogen increases methane in atmosphere half as much as gasoline car (assume diesel truck). Because hydrogen is hard to contain it is estimated that up to 10% of hydrogen chain is released.

[@steveeddy6876]

So if I'm behind one of these Hydrogen trucks will I be turning on my windshield wipers?

[@32ukneil]

Hopefully we will have a Tesla Bus one day two.

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

My vehicle once named BLACK SHEEP then “ th Tesla hater bus “ is NOW referred to as CRONIC NUISANCE PROPERTY!!! Yehehe

[@LewdCustomer]

Hydrogen has 99 problems, and not one problem relates to hydrogen availability. It is everywhere and far too expensive to scale. It cannot acquired, stored, made safe, transported at prices you would be willing to pay. It's long-running nuttery to go after govt. program money.

[@donwise8767]

Oh, and please don't forget what deem to be the Hindenburg effect...

[@johnstreet797]

that's never stopped any nutters from going after govt. program money before....

[@Bogie3855]

Tesla has it all figured out from what I have seen and this just makes so much sense both environmentally and financially. Lordy, what a cash saving and that it NOT going to be ignored. Also, WHERE will you fill up a hydrogen vehicle?? And Tesla is way ahead in that area too. The juggernaut will not be stopped.

[@bojangles3147]

Just have one question if we can’t dispose of electric cars how are we going to deal with truck batteries.I just hope this goes thru I have a old Peterbuilt.

[@jeanneharriman2869]

Blessings from Kalispell Montana USA

[@karencansler7127]

Montana should have anti smog emission control same as California. Trucks retrofitted to puff black smoke should be illegal. In fact, all the United States of American should be required to meet California emissions. Ignore Newsom.

[@williamsavage6301]

What did the semi run over at 1:05?

[@Talamasca124]

If a vehicle is towing a trailer, it is never impossible to jack-knife. The sycophants march on.

[@vaughnmcmillan8400]

You nailed it bruh! When you hit black ice on a curve in a snowshed with your growler on, you're gonna be looking at your taillights in no time! You know you're in trouble when the engine almost stalls cuz the drives are skating, so you slam the clutch pedal through the firewall to let them get back up to road speed and hopefully gain enough traction to snap out of the knife, all while holding your breath and praying you don't meet any oncoming traffic while you're in their lane! Yeah, I pulled out of it, but I also had to pull over and change my own dities! I didn't enjoy that! So don't nobody try to tell me a rig's impossible to jacknife! 😮

[@blckwaterpark]

This is crazy. There is no place for Hydrogen on the road.. especially in such large amounts.

[@tedmoss]

BOOM!

[@donwise8767]

Recall the Hindenburg. Need I say more?

[@royh6526]

Toyota is still pushing their Mirai in California. Actually a nice car now (previous years were ugly). Base model lists for $52k. Toyota sells about 3,000 per year and starting in 2021 they figured out how to sell this many. Fed tax break $8k, Cali incentive $5k, Toyota discount $20k, so the $52k car effectively costs $19k and because H2 fuel is so expensive, they throw in 6 years of free fuel. Oh, I forgot to mention that H2 cars get 4 CARB credits vs 3 for BEVs and selling these cars saves Toyota a bundle on not having to pay CARB fines for their other vehicles. I'm sure Toyota also gets incentives from their Japanese government, so all in all they probably don't loose too much money on these cars.

[@danharold3087]

@@donwise8767 Not a fan of hydrogen but time to put the Hindenburg FUD to bed. The Hindenburg skin was doped with a compound that was highly frameable. Pick another example please.

[@garethrobinson2275]

​@danharold3087 Agreed, not sure why anyone thinks it's a necessary part of the case against Hydrogen. The costs are more than enough to kill it in the real World.

[@thegrantdanielsband]

The Farce of EV's we are all on to LOL And we do not want these dirty things period 🙂

[@customsolutions7167]

Lol you said reduces harmless vs. harmful that was in the written text ... 😂. I had to play it a couple times just to check... 😊 Edit : and used to love my minidisk player.. i still have two of them. 😂

[@ricwilmot1654]

Good show

[@arlenbell4376]

My major concern with EVs is the raw materials for millions of vehicles. We have to have new battery chemistry.

[@kjsdpgijn]

And that's already being worked on constantly. Will be a complete non-issue

[@elsmaster5592]

​@@kjsdpgijnYeah, for some time there might be a bottleneck because we can't dig them up fast enough but that is only a very temporary issue

[@ryanpetree6475]

They already have several different chemistries that work well and are much cheaper and readily available. Its all about the factory that makes them. There needs to be more manufacturing. The raw materials are not the problem.

[@wildbunch98663]

Only problem with ev’s is that the US power grid can not handle all these ev’s charging. And another thing our power bills are going to go up.

[@ryanpetree6475]

@@wildbunch98663 So you would rather pay for gasoline or diesel that comes from foreign countries that hate the US? Thats probably better right? Lets not put any more money in our power grid which would make too much sense for other reasons not just power EVs but lets keep shooting ourselves in the foot. How about we get government out of the energy business to begin with. How? Buy solar and power your home for starters. Negate the need for the powergrid and charge your cars to!

[@duanelawrence4311]

The first hydrogen cat was made in 1807 by a swiss inventor. in the 1890s in the USA , there were hydrogen, electric and gasoline cars.

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

A solar spill Issa beautiful sunshiny day😀

[@garethrobinson2275]

Different technologies though.

[@saltyroe3179]

When I was at UCLA in the 1970s, the Engineering school built a hydrogen car for research purposes. It worked great. The two biggest problems that the professor in charge said were: - the safety of filling (which can be dealt with easily in a commercial vehicle) - what would happen if the pressure vessel was punctured in an accident. There is a highly likely scenario that in a violent crash that punctured the pressure vessel would result in a low order explosion that would vaporize anything combustible within a a city block and melt many metals (think small scale Hindenberg). These risks have kept hydrogen motors to mostly high performance rockets like the Saturn 5.

[@AMortalDefiant]

There are actually *additional* incentives for electric semis in Nevada under the new bill. $175k is the BASELINE savings for a Class 8 truck. Independent operators get an additional 33%, and disadvantaged groups like veterans get an additional 5%. If the incentives stack like the way the bill seems to imply, a veteran starting their own shipping business would save $241,500 off the $250k price tag, bringing the total cost BELOW $10k (less than the price of a used car)... and that's excluding any federal incentives. It could end up being practically FREE under the right circumstances.

[@100pyatt]

They still haven't fixed the problem that you lose 10,000 lb of cargo capacity and that is going to make the truck worthless to about 70% of the freight market

[@havenzhai5187]

Is that “free” for the taxpayers too?

[@gooldii1]

Top, Lars!

[@thomasruwart1722]

Anyone know what the taxes and/or road fees would be for opersting a semi truck in the US? Let's say it stays under 55,000 pounds GVW. I was thinking about what it would cost to buy and operate a Tesla Semi with the trailer decked out as a home. Basically one level above a pickup truck pulling a camping trailer.

[@garethrobinson2275]

Charging might be a problem though. Fleets can afford their own Megachargers.

[@brucetaylor2887]

I think they would be amazing as a house truck. Probably want a few more seats in the cab (seems plenty of room behind driver). So much room to make a great living space. Perhaps if you can make friends with a large trucking company. Even leave a cargo room for smaller deliveries and free charging (it if lines up with travel plans.. conditions etc). I could see someone doing it for the lifestyle and income. Or just doing it as a pure camper. Rent them out when not using for high rates. Make custom trailers to order, kits for cab conversion. Lots of aftermarket.

[@thomasruwart1722]

@@brucetaylor2887 - ...make small deliveries... that's a great idea! Have a great weekenda

[@garymichalski5197]

The electric truck is not practical for anything out side running local. Would have to park it when weather gets bad like do for double 53ft trailers and triple trailers. So you don't get stuck in a snow storm like we did this year for 3 days in our truck. Everything was closed no gas or food. Only what we had with us.

[@ryanpetree6475]

@@garymichalski5197 This could easily be remidied by adding a small very efficient 4cylinder diesel generator on the existing EV platform and have your cake and eat it to.

[@chriswood6413]

HarmFUL, not harmLESS emmissions, Lars!!!

[@keithwilson1554]

There is an Australian company converting your old Semi to Electric but the best part is that it has swappable Batteries. So a Forklift comes takes out your battery and puts in a fresh one in 5 minutes. And they are already laying out the Stations along the main roads used. Semi's in Australia have to stop around 4 hours to curb Driver Fatigue so this is within the range of the Batteries.

[@rockycata6078]

Australia is moving to consumer/commercial EV/renewables adoption faster than anywhere outside of China, and seeing Tesla VPP/VMM technology is already shutting-down fossil-fuel energy production across the entire Australia continent.

[@Wordsmiths]

This is amazing. I love it. Go, Aussies!

[@fjalics]

They might even charge those batteries when the sun is up, with fantastic solar resources in many parts of Austalia.

[@brucetaylor2887]

@@Wordsmiths Totally agree hope NZ goes there also. Cheaper, cleaner.

[@angelpais8160]

That's really clever.

[@hornethurdler]

Very timely

[@CC-iq2pe]

A question that no-one has asked is…if the Tesla Semi can tow 85T with 3x Tesla S motors, what will the Tesla Cybertruck really be able to tow? I am betting that their proposed numbers are very low…it may be that Cybertruck maybe able to tow more than any diesel medium/heavy duty truck out there.

[@sportbikeguy9875]

With the cost around 70K to the consumer, that cost will be "payed off" at the moment of the sale, if being compared to a diesel semi

[@keithb7981]

Don't forget the Pepsi got huge incentives on each of those semis similar to what's going to occur in Nevada in The first tee of a future

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

Fully loaded Tesla semi at 82000 lbs gets 21 MPG -ish... The unloaded KIA Sorrento that I sometimes drive gets similar efficiency in mixed driving, 24mpg if mainly highway... In pure city driving, lots of traffic, I once used 3/4 of a tank in about 9 miles of driving!!! Just me and one passenger, no other load... In stop and go traffic, EVs get near infinite range it seems...

[@ChrisJWinn]

That 3/4 of a tank in the Kia would usually take you several hundred miles, eh? How do you go through that in 9 miles?? Were you in traffic for 6 hours? Lots of people in cars with less fuel in the tank would have been running out, eh?

[@tennesseetrucker1921]

I'd have to take exception to your claim of Evs getting near infinite range. I own a Model 3 Tesla I bought earlier this year. 17,126 miles so far. The car averages 240WH/mile since new. If I drive it slower in warm weather in fairly flat terrain it gets around 180WH/mile. If I drive it like mad Max I might see 350WH/mile. The point I'm trying to make is this, while EVs definitely are more efficient than ICE vehicles, They are also susceptible to efficiency fluctuations based on driving behavior just as ICE vehicles are.

[@jasongooden917]

the battery is bigger than your entire car

[@tennesseetrucker1921]

@@jasongooden917 Yeah no shit Sherlock, my car has a 60KW battery and the semi should have a 1,000KW battery in order to achieve 500 miles of range on 2KW of power. The point I'm making is The Tesla Semi will not supply infinite power. That's just ridiculous.

[@oldfarthacks]

@@ChrisJWinn Every driven in Los Angeles in the afternoon. Average speed on the freeway is 25 MPH, with lots of stop and go and idling.

[@optimagroup11]

Lars, They won't need a spreadsheet, just a cup of coffee, their smartphone and 13 minutes to make their Semi decision! Lol SoCalFreddy

[@jimdigriz3436]

It’s all wonderful, but WHERE TO YOU CHARGE THE TRUCKS? WHERE DOES THE ELECTRICITY COME FROM?

[@mysurlytrucker7510]

A very good video.

[@InvestinginthePhillyBurbs]

This truck is taking the whole market as fast as they can make them

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

One state one factory one truck

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

One market Checkmate Checkmate

[@hcox1111]

They are hauling potato chips and Doritos, I want to see real mass being moved not a bunch of chips in half empty air filled bags.

[@30105378]

My concern with the hydrogen vehicle is the amount of moving parts in the engine.

[@phillipzx3754]

Sarcasm? A hydrogen-powered EV has the same amount of moving parts as a battery-powered EV. One uses a fuel cell, the other uses batteries. The amount of moving parts in the "engine" (an electric motor) is (pretty much) the same in both.

[@halohat2286]

Please excuse my ignorance but does Tesla offer a two seat with sleeper cab configuration for the Semi Truck? Hydrogen makes no sense/cents.

[@robertwhite3503]

Not yet. Current design is for short haul. For example Pepsi delivering from distribution centres to retail centres. Arguably there is enough room, but this is not the current design intention. They currently have a 500 mile range. At 70mph that would be just over a risky 7 hours without a refill. Assuming the semi is doing short haul this mean no semi charging points are needed

[@lawrenceh.7011]

Great content! No Teslap? 😐

[@craigfrancis9578]

Haven't heard you a minute boss hope all is well

[@shepherdsknoll]

Is there an upside to the Hyundai truck ?

[@ChrisBrengel]

My guess is that Tesla isn't making money on the semi truck. Also, the semi use an incredible number of batteries. Because of these two things, Tesla is making as few semis as they can and still fulfill the contracts they have signed. This is my guess, if anyone knows better, please let me know.

[@kevinthomes1046]

It is not really a viable option. Compared to new semi's the Tesla does not get as good of fuel mileage as the new semi's get. With current fuel prices it is cheaper to run and diesel truck. Diesel would need to be around $9 a gallon for the Tesla to be even. It is not cheap to charge an electric car at a public station.

[@ckupcu]

You are a funny person Lars 😂

[@milescoleman910]

I agree! Hydrogen could have been the way to go but they didn’t want to risk backing and opec and the government getting upset with them. So they took it slow. Not realizing that selling the vehicles would drive the development of the surrounding technology. Selling the vehicles would build the infrastructure. Now we have 20 years of battery development. All the brains in the MIT’s of the world have turned their power toward battery density and dendrite issues. All of them being solved little by little every week. Hydrogen won’t catch up because so many less people are trying to make it work. Filling speed and longevity and environmental impact will very soon be uncatchable.

[@johnarnold893]

milescoleman...........since when was big oil in the US part of OPEC? GM, Toyota, Mercedes, lot's of universities and many others have spend a fortune on hydrogen and all have chucked it as a waste of time. Like Elon said, hydrogen is a dead end.

[@Martin-se3ij]

You didn't see the hydrogen on a disc like a CD that Munro talked about then? That the military have been using.

[@milescoleman910]

Yeah I see that. I was thinking more of the infrastructure as well as the Tec. Much of the early anti EV movement was about how there just wasn’t any chargers anywhere. Seemed to me like as enough of the cars appeared and as cool as they seemed. More people wanted them and Tesla had the money and the backing to place the chargers. Compelling products just convince people. I did see something about the compressed hydrogen solid discs. But no solid hydrogen solution will ever match liquid hydrogen for compression. A tank of Liquid H is as much energy as it will ever contain to be burned. The things to work on would be the engines or ( and this has been seen in sci fi for years ) some way of getting the hydrogen on the go. Some fusion machine that sucks it right out of the air or a tank of water. But I’m guessing that’s centuries away.

[@stevenjbernard]

Converting electricity into hydrogen and back again is less efficient and more expensive than simply storing it in batteries. Plus, we already have the EV infrastructure in place, making EV's a more compelling option.

[@chrisheath2637]

@@Martin-se3ij I looked into this. A laughable scam. A prancing popinjay selling snake-oil. The reality of that is you will need the weight of an EV battery to absorb the hydrogen( roughly) to go a similar distance. With a disputable H2 storage mechanism " stores hydrogen straight from the smoke stack", to a complex retrieval mechanism - heating the metal hydride to release the hydrogen (make sure your LASER isn't too hot), while spinning the disc ( or passing the tape) over the LASER. It was a neat Lab experiment, and got funding. But the website was woefully lacking in detail. It has SCAM written all over it. But the Fossil Fuel industry, and their lobbyists, love this kind of thing, 'cos they can keep "the dream" of a hydrogen economy alive - even if it makes zero sense. Physics and Chemistry take no prisoners in this world, and hydrogen will forever be the Ugly Sister compared to the ever-improving battery chemistry, technology and production economics. "Hydrogen goes bye-byes !"

[@stuartwilliams3164]

All we need now is zero emition generation that produces enough to power the state grid!

[@lwdp74]

Doesn’t hydrogen production use a larger amount of energy as than hydrogen yields? As long as it’s green it’d be ok but it adds up one more step. It might suit longer range flights. But sill more engineering problems, the enery density of hydrogen vs jet fuels and weight of the (very) high pressure hydrogen tanks. Most likely possible if modified enough. Nothing’s easy.

[@vaughnmcmillan8400]

I learned a loooong time ago - '90ish, that 75% of the energy in a hydrogen tank was used to make & can it. So there you go - it's too slow a payback pony.

[@tombishop5835]

Sounds great but what about the road taxes that carbon based fuels are picking up the tab for???

[@hcox1111]

If you do a little math you will find that a Tesla Semi will require the electric use of 500 average homes if it can charge in an hour, 5 hours would still be like adding 100 homes to the grid. I can't see it , the grid would have to grow exponentially or it's brownouts constantly.

[@vaughnmcmillan8400]

Good catch Grasshoppah! Already Calizuela's trying to tell Tesla owners not to recharge between the hours they come home and go back to work! 😅

[@donharrill2795]

Some comments are a bit exaggerated. Although a hydrogen rupture would be catastrophic the chance of this happening is minor. I’ve seen test where bullets have been shot into the hydrogen take and there was not a rupture.

[@ADOENDRA]

I really don't know how it works in the US. But in Europe truck drivers are allowed to work X hours ( work is inclusive traffic jams ) and then they have to rest for X hours. During resting, you can charge your Semi truck. In Germany, it is even worse, truck can not drive on Sundays. So for the time matrix, the semi will fit perfectly in Europe. PS it is a pity you do not use the metric system.

[@DD2DL]

Federal subsidies are an additional $40k

[@Walt1960]

Impressive.

[@isettech]

So how much more does an electric truck weigh compared to a traditional truck? How much less weight can they haul without being overweight at the scale?

[@pachanga2711]

Yes the truck itself, going down the road is clean. The process to mine and manufacture a battery is anything But clean. Nevada's largest power plant by capacity and generation is natural gas-fired, not completely clean. So unless Nevada is living in a bubble, all they are doing is Moving there air pollution to another place. And patting themselves on the back, good job.

[@vaughnmcmillan8400]

Another sharp-eyed kid joins the convo! Well done! At least we know you haven't been drinking the Kool-Aid!

[@johndoolan9732]

So where can I show you the way I seeing selfcharging x charge you will see why x charge is named

[@davefoc]

Hydrogen fuel for cars is the useless technology that won't die. This video does an excellent job of explaining why it is useless but it doesn't explain why it hasn't disappeared before now. I don't know what the explanation is but here's a few thoughts: 1. Hydrogen seems to constitute a kind of religion for some people. Every pro hydrogen video gets a bunch of comments about how the battery electric vehicles aren't going to work, so the future is hydrogen. 2. Cynical ICE car manufacturers who secretly push hydrogen powered cars with the hope of getting government handouts to develop hydrogen cars that will sell with more government subsidies Maybe, fossil fuel companies are in the this mix as well. Fossil fuel company skills and infrastructure are much better positioned to take advantage of a shift to hydrogen than a shift to BEV.s 3. Toyota weirdness: Why does a company this successful continue to pursue an idea this stupid?

[@LuisNeves]

I guess ALL long hauling companies will be moving to Navada.

[@johnarnold893]

luisneves.....what good would that be for trucking companies on the east coast or for that matter any trucking company that doesn't run out of NV. Bottom line is more and more states will be doing this except for the deeeeeep red GQP states like FL. You can bet that DeSatan will start calling NV the woke state.

[@jasongooden917]

The price of the Semi is about to go up

[@onlyme972]

When it breaks in the middle of the night who do you call. Oh it's a garage job to fix at the main dealer.

[@arguanmodeth]

Why would politicians spend our money in this way? Which donors are they paying off? A small and relatively poor state like Nevada doesn't have this kind of money to throw around on promoting a technology that is already inevitable and is held back only by the laws of physics.

[@AGUADILLAN1]

They will use The taxes Tesla pays for their Giga plant.

[@LetsGoTrue]

13.31 You said HARMLESS, greenhouse gas emissions, which is very true.