Never Buy One Of These

[@reanimated0]

3:38 "Get a different dock" don't get a third-party dock if you value your Switch's life

[@kindkyle6766]

Isnt he literally the guy who said not to get a 3rd party dock because it breaks the switch?

[@kosakukawajiri6752]

@@kindkyle6766 He said that there are reports of a 3rd party dock he endorsed breaking the switch, but isnt sure about how widespread the issue is, nonetheless, supports it mostly due to the fact it will not scratch the screen, and Im sure the heat factor is only a secondary reason

[@wimvandervelde1774]

@@kindkyle6766 He is talking about the 3rd party dock without the electronics inside(You put in the normal electronics from your old dock)! Safe and much better. I ordered 1 for ali.

[@Leo363615]

I agree. this KZbin guy -_- calling people idiots take one to know one

[@Joe-ld5wq]

There are docks that are just shells that use the innards of the nintendo dock. You install them yourself and they work 100% fine and are 100% safe because they use Nintendo dock hardware not 3rd party hardware

[@HeyNiso]

I've never bought a game console fan ever... Because that'd be Human Trafficking.

[@ciscogarrido6183]

You. I like you.

[@HoodedEdge]

Oof

[@gradeabud6036]

You did good.

[@SneefyQuaffles]

Im probably retarded but that joke went right over my head

[@zNewty]

he meant fan as in someone who likes some thing so he'd be buying a human

[@BErNz117productions]

I am engineer in electronics and heat dpes affect the consoles even if you dont notice, because the more heat the more the integrated circuits degrade.

[@Mike01029]

Do you happen to know if this is the case for consoles? Because I bought 2 separate fans for my PS4 pro (one for pushing air in and one pulling air out because it gets very hot,it even warms up my room in a while) and it still gets hot and loud but not as hot as before without it, is this fine? I remember hearing some German guy modded it with a PC water cooler

[@BoleDaPole]

I'm a psuedo scientist and I concur

[@O1OO1O1]

@@Mike01029 cool the room. More fans only works to a point, but a 18 celcius room is significant compared to a 32 degree room. If you have both good fans and a cool room, it's more effective.

[@KeenScout.]

@@Mike01029 Try removing dust from the system or changing the thermal paste.

[@ottoernst3735]

@Blob B depends and I'm assuming when he says circuits he means the wiring inside of the gpu and cpu which are nm large where heat will make a big difference in longevity

[@danielharman4437]

Incorrect. Air blowing onto something actually does cool it down. For example imagine a piece of metal sitting in air that is a lower temperature than the metal. The metal heats up the air around it to equalize the temperatures. When air blows past it, the heated air around the metal is taken with it so that the metal will then Cool quicker with cooler air surrounding it.

[@Overload151]

Consoles don't need cool down though, they can get pretty hot but will still run the same as always. This coolers will only be useful to extend the chips lifetime if the console is in a very hot envairoment, and i don't think it will extend it for long

[@peite7878]

Zero Fox Maybe the PS4 Pro’s fan wouldn’t spin up like a jet motor if the inner temperature weren’t that hot which an extra fan would help out with.

[@SiliconPower74]

The more cold work your console/PC/electronic thing, more gonna last.

[@Overload151]

Peite I get what you are saying, but that mean that Sony knew that the upgraded hardware of the PS4 Pro will be hotter and installed a fan that could cool it down, that's their thermal solution, that's the way is intended to work. IF Sony desing the console right the chip is not overheating, therefore the chip is not forcing itself and will last for long. But if it is overheating, it's a desing flaw and an extra cooler would be a good idea. P.s. I'm not aware of the avarage PS4 Pro temps, so I don't know if it overheats or not.

[@Renvaar1989]

Dianiel you are saying what he is saying. It's not the action of air blowing directly on to the object that cools it (like a human would be cooled) but the action of the hot air around the component being replaced with cool air allowing for heat dissipation.

[@kash7486]

The misinformation in this video is so strong I feel compelled to restate some of the comments: 1. You won't "definitely notice" if your console is running hot. Newer components "thermal throttle" reducing performance instead of dying/incorrectly rendering. 2. Circulating more ambient air into a console, when done correctly, results in a cooler operating temperature which can increase performance of components that are throttling 3. Heat dissipation in computers is heavily dependent on airflow direction, pressure and CFM. Not wanting to get too technical here, but fans and blowing air is completely relevant to heat dissipation in computers and consoles

[@theguytheguy3886]

Wait so would this fan actually kinda work?

[@mattwood683]

@@theguytheguy3886 Technically speaking yes. In practice usually not much of a difference you will get more of a difference by directing cooler air towards the consoles intake or even cooling the ambient temp of the room by a few degrees. If your console is running at jet speeds just pop open the cover and use compressed air to blow all the dust out (if it's not in warranty or you just don't care). Another thing that no one seems to be taking into account is the fact that thermal paste does degrade over time losing its heat transfer abilities (not completely just loses efficiency). Buddy of mine redid his thermal paste on his computer CPU and got an 8c difference (computer is like 6 years old so take that into account). All in all its usually cheaper and easier to do things before tacking on the fans to the console, but if you are having overheating problems there might be a different issue other than just lack of airflow (however it might work there are a lot of variables that can come into play when dealing with temps in consoles and computers).

[@AcidDotDrop]

Nice explanation... only two flaw in your comment: 1. The X1 starts throttling at 75°C, the Switch's heat protection shuts the system down at around 67°C and cames will run generally at around 53°C with some demanding games going up to peaks at around 59°C . And before the shutdown occurs, you will be given a system warning prior to that. So your entire "overheating" arguement falls flat on its nose. 2. Circulating more ambient air and adjusting airflow direction is in fact important but you said one word that s the most important factor but you just brushed over: CORRECTLY. It's not just slamming a fan on each side and getting benefits, if it would be that easy, there wouldn't be an issue with itx cases or laptops in general. It has do be done correctly to get a benefit and home consoles are designed around their own internal cooling solutions, the only way for you to manipulate that is by either taking the system apart and altering the intended airflow ur feeding cooled air into the system... in other words, reducing the ambient temperature as a whole.

[@raycert07]

thermally throttling components is very noticeable. in noise and fps.

[@Link3000XD]

@@AcidDotDropsooo guys.. is that a yes or a no on those external fan upgrades? read some amazon reviews, some seem happy without saying anything like usual and someone tested it out with also overclocking his switch additionally and the c didnt change even more than by 1°.

[@LazyBunnyKiera]

Oh Wulff Den, your entire video was based on air flow, but left out air pressure, and resistance/restriction. The vent mesh on the top of a 360 for example restricts air flow. Since the fans blow out, it'll be limited by how quickly or easily air can be sucked into the system's other vents. Slapping a fan on an intake vent to push air in will help compensate for the restrictions. It's why PCs have both intake fans AND fans blowing outwards. IE Push/Pull configurations. That said... that 360 fan that slaps on top of the existing fans was pretty silly. As for the switch, a dock with a fan on it that cools the back of the unit would be good too. Since it does radiate heat out of the back shell. And lastly, you said "so long as it's working, heat isn't a problem." but just because it isn't a problem now, doesn't mean it doesn't have lasting affects. Over time it could warp solder joints, warp plastics, and break down components. So just because it works now, doesn't mean it's good enough.

[@avinfrench6003]

He already said console's dont have intake fans which is why another outtake fan doesnt work. How would it help over time that makes no sense a fan works in real time and if you check the thermal scans for these things you're lucky to get one degrer ticked off of your console

[@theillegitking1304]

Avin French lazy bunny never said that consoles have intake fans. They stated that HAVING intake fans in the case of the 360 for example WOULD be extremely beneficial because as they stated because the internal air pressure of the 360 and some modern consoles too isnt enough to vent enough heat with just one exhaust having intakes would increase airflow in and therefore out the otherside is a good thing.

[@theillegitking1304]

Avin French and as far as one degree....no no no my friend. The video is merely attempting to point out how these game cools fans dont do as they advertise which is in 99% of cases true. But as far as the switch for example...especially when docked... The fans on the dock help push air in.. Which allows it to more easily reach the exhaust fans...therefore allowing the exhaust to vent more heat... The difference in these things when applied correctly is substantial not a one degree difference like your implying.

[@TheSilverWolf1998]

And now we see a lot of people with cracks on their switch caused by the stress of temperatures changing dramatically fast.

[@kenalfaroponce4778]

I saw reports of people having that problem that only played docked from day one. I understand where you're coming from but that would be more of a problem if you would dock and undock it regularly. If you undock your Switch then it cools down faster but if you leave it docked it can't get rid of the heat because it's totally 'wrapped' by the dock. So then it doesn't have that dramatic temperature changes you're implying. Witch could indeed crack the plastic casing...

[@johnnyquest456]

Just talked for 8 minutes but no actual tests or thermometer differences on consoles themselves 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@thepaultato3243]

gamer grant120 its an emoji? People use them to express their emotions. All though im not a fan of emojis on KZbin comments. Also just saying... I’m pretty sure 75%+ of the people watching this video are male... not sexist but it’s pretty obvious that more males would watch a video about console vent attachments...

[@davidf9696]

@@thepaultato3243 I think he was refering to the gender sign is after the emoji

[@thepaultato3243]

David F there is no gender sign after it for me, I know what you’re talking about now. It’s just a weird thing that happens when you send an emoji across another device I believe, or if your phone is out of date. People aren’t literally putting an emoji, then putting a gender symbol after it.

[@davidf9696]

@@thepaultato3243 Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up

[@AlphaMoist]

@@DannyGruesome Calm the fuck down dude, it was legit an honest question that I was also wondering. What are you, fucking 12?

[@SS2LP]

“It isn’t built like a computer” except that it is a computer and it is built exactly like one, albeit much more compact like a laptop. It isn’t supposed to get hot and getting to certain temperatures is just as bad for it as the BIOS protection forcibly cutting power to the main board. It’s fine for it to be a bit warm but not hot, the switch for example will average around 15 degrees Celsius from its automatic off temperature. It’s never good to run anything electronic at high temperatures for extended periods ever, even if it’s several degrees below the point it turns off.

[@SS2LP]

They're highly specialized computers made on a budged. The ps4 runs on a modified version of linux, and the the xbox one on a modified version of windows. i'm really not sure where people get this notion that consoles aren't computers, they aren't the same as what we usually think of as a computer but it is still one regardless. I honestly hope not many peopled listened to this and damaged their consoles thinking it was okay for it to run at 60+ degrees Celsius.

[@zooker2185]

@@SS2LP 60 degrees celsius on the package is not hot

[@SS2LP]

Harlem 1312 that’s 10 degrees below the switch’s BIOS kicks in and shuts it off. It’s hot for a compact machine like a laptop or console

[@zooker2185]

@@SS2LP I am talking about the package temp and the switch can survive on 90 degrees celsius

[@SS2LP]

Harlem 1312 It doesn’t matter what the package temperature is the console will shut off around 70. And sure it can survive 90 but you’re damaging the internal components and connections on the machine by doing so. Frankly I’d be concerned if my desktop rig was running at 90, let alone something as compact as the switch, if you wanna hear the crap out of your electronics than be my guest but the rest of us want them to last for years to come and that is in no way good for the board or solder.

[@SteamPoweredFox]

How can you say air flow only cools humans because of evaporation and then go on to explain how a CPU's metal heat sink works? And what do you think happens when exhaust fans displace hot air from a system? Do you think air isn't pulled in from other places? Do you think the inside of your console is a completely airless vacuum?

[@jessef2917]

I bought a USB desk fan and put it about 6" behind my switch and took the back door off my dock...temps never exceed 29C now...soooooo blowing air on computer parts DOES cool it down...who woulda thought

[@HiHi-jh2uz]

Jesse my 30” in diameter fan is keeping my 360 nice and cool.

[@HiHi-jh2uz]

Gamer Den computers normally run MUCH hotter than 29°c.

[@davidnewbon4385]

@Gamer Den Not when the fan doesnt work

[@Mike-jf5ip]

What's that in English

[@davidbanan.]

@@Mike-jf5ip what

[@AmyGrrl78]

I kind of want him to prove they don't work other than saying they don't work. Actually open the console and install a bunch of temperature sensors inside. Then monitor the temperatures with and with the cooler. I do think he is most likely correct. However I would prefer a more in depth analysis about how the coolers work when attached to a console.

[@suck_lord5000]

agreed

[@MacMashPotato]

The truth is, it helps but wont fix an actual issue that may be causing over heating. Im a computer technician with extensive knowledge on the way air pressure works on enclosed pc's. Getting the hot air out is more important then getting cold air in, so having fans suck out the hot air creates a low pressure in the console and it sucks air in everywhere air can come in, the xbox 360 however had bad cooling mounts, so if you had a bad cooling heatsink mount its gonna overheat regardless. Can it help keep the console cool, yes but not enough to fix anything. Is it worth it? Probably not, but having the console a few degrees cooler can extend its life a few years.

[@SparkysTechCorner]

They have been proven to work, external cooling dose help the systems, all the systems have some sort of heatsink in them, yes the manufacture has built it to work and cool to spec, but that spec is also with in it throttle limit, providing more cooling to the heatsinks will cool the system better, it’s funny he said pc, because These consoles are exactly like pc, and work the same also,.... it’s been proven time and time again better cooling helps, go watch Linus tech tips, jayztwocents, Louis rossmann, they have all proven this fact

[@phxf]

Consoles use PC-like hardware, but they aren't configured that way. A console generally runs at set speeds. The switch for example has two speeds for it's CPU, GPU, and RAM, and uses the lower speed in handheld mode, and gives game developers the option to use the higher speed in docked mode. There's no smooth throttling like a PC. No matter how warm your console gets, the chips keep running at the same speed, with the same performance, same framerate, until the console decides it is too hot and forces a shut down, or starts glitching out. As for intake fans, sure, maybe some of them make the chips a bit cooler, but that makes no difference to how the console runs, unless it's so hot where you are that your console regularly shuts down. Intake fans can cause problems too - the fan itself creates heat, so now the air going in to the console is a bit warmer than room temperature. Depending how much pressure it forces in to the console, the air inside the cabinet can become higher pressure - if you're in a humid environment and your air is close to saturated with water, that can force water to condense out of the squeezed air, making your computer chips wet, and crashing your console *if you're lucky*. Home dehumidifers sometimes work on this principal, by compressing air to squeeze the water out of it. Compressed gasses are also hotter - it's how heat pumps like air conditioners work. If you pump up a tire or a ball, you can notice the hose and the ball get a bit warmer, and if you blow a spray can on your hand, you'll feel the decompressing gas is cold. Exhaust fans are better for this reason too, creating that vacuum inside the case means the air entering the case is decompressing a little bit, becoming a bit cooler than room temperature while it's inside there, helping it suck more heat out of the chips.

[@SparkysTechCorner]

X x X yes, consoles like the Xbox dose use intel cpu, and NVIDIA graphic chips embedded on the board, their just like computers

[@Napster60]

Keeping your temperatures lower WILL increase the lifespan of your console.. or any computer component.. Adding another fan to a console in line with your other fans WILL INCREASE the suction/ pressure of the air going threw the console. This can be VERY helpful on consoles with restrictive vents. like the Switch and PS4 THIS GUY IS WRONG saying that air moving faster over components and internal coolers isin't helpful. Im shocked at the like to dislike amounts showing so many people that actually trust this uninformed guy. If you want to buy a fan to help keep your console cool GO FOR IT. most of them (not all) will help your console live longer.

[@-miggy]

No. He says in this video that there are some of these that do work. He's saying that they don't change much and therefore you shouldn't waste your money on it. A slight change in console lifespan is useless. You can do it a million other ways.

[@PrimeTime1810]

Name three of them that are cheaper and as effective.

[@rowhanvarma1981]

Meanwhile the XBox one S and Xbox One literally have gaps saying AIR

[@GraveUypo]

another case of extrapolation from one's own situation to everyone else's. go live in a tropical / equatorial country and say that again. sometimes you get a 20c headstart on everyone else from idle temperatures. believe it or not, consoles are not made to operate at 40c room temperatures. i don't use these on my consoles, but i can clearly see situations where they would help. btw, 1:47 was joke, right? please tell me it was. in case it wasn't, here are some reasons where increased airflow helps cooling a system: - as more air passes, it effectively increases surface area for all components, specially the heatspreaders, since they are making contact with more air in the same amount of the. - it moves air in and out of the system faster, which means that not only the hot air gets pushed out faster, but it also means it doesn't let the heat accumulate as much inside the casing. the compound effect of those means it makes contact with more air, and that air is cooler on top of it. how can it NOT get cooler than with a slower airflow? the only way for that would be if the cpu was somehow below ambient temperature, which isn't very likely. so think for a bit before making a video. one more thing, the serial fan configuration isn't optimal but it works... i have one of those fans on my laptop and it decreases full load temperatures by a whooping 30c. yep, 30 fucking degrees celcius. simply because the external fan has a MUCH higher airflow rating than the internal one, and thus moves more air through the system faster. which again proves my previous point. sheesh. stop spreading misinformation. you had a valid point in saying these are preying on the fear of a problem that isn't there with very few exceptions, but everything else you said was garbage.

[@billybobjoe198]

More air speed can cause more heat. It's a trade off when you're using filters on your PC. I'm not saying I know when that threshold is for these consoles. But take your computer's filter off and blow through it feeling the air coming out. It will be warm, almost hot. Now blow on your hand without the filter, it'll be cool. The faster the air the higher the pressure the hotter the air. The smaller the space the bigger the problem gets. There is also a static buildup issue with fast moving air. Basically in cooling, more air != more better. More surface area = more better.

[@vyor8837]

@@billybobjoe198 what? No, airflow doesn't make more heat in the case. Filters restrict airflow ya dumbass.

[@george_denbrough]

@@billybobjoe198 The fuck kind of drugs are you on?

[@Flakisx1]

As a electrician that worked on helicopters, I rather have as much air cooling as possible than bare minimum for electronics so yes even that fan that goes on the switch helps circulate cooler air helps out.

[@SolaireFlair]

I think the Switch is a special case here where this could actually be beneficial. As we all know, the Switch has a lovely little warping issue from extended use in docked mode on more demanding titles like Breath of the Wild, so keeping that puppy even just a little bit cooler could alleviate the problem in the long run. Just because the Switch isn't experiencing performance decreases from the heat it outputs doesn't mean there aren't any side effects.

[@schmlif8839]

My game took over 10 SECONDS to load, must be overheating.

[@leecroft1983]

My console is on fire, must be overheating.

[@OhSoTiredMan]

Volume low, must be overheating

[@SyedHousein]

My Nintendo Switch keep getting hot and shutting down while playing long sessions of Xenoblade Chronicles 2. I bought that dock fan and it actually worked. But after watching this video, all I had to do was rip off the back door of the dock. lol

[@TwilightAdvance]

Doctor Syed Then your switch is defective send it to fix. Or you probably are confusing system crash into heating issues. Xenoblade 2 crashes switch, it happena to everyone i know whom played it long periods of time on one sitting. It's because of software issues within the game itself (hopefully fixed in a future patches) and not the hardware side of things.

[@SyedHousein]

It was because of the hardware overheating, once I attached the cooling fan. I NEVER ran into that issue again.

[@d.r.1402]

Raxio ra - And if you are out of warranty? Look, this youtuber should watch level1 techs because he is only giving partially correct information. As long as the heat inside being sent to the heatsinks is hotter than the outside air, then extra cooling done in a push/pull ideal doesn't hurt and can extend the life.

[@SquillagusNiggle]

I have one of these too, and they actually DO work. This KZbinr hasn't even tested the thing. If I run Mario Odyssey or Bayonetta 2, the Switch is notably hot when you take it out of the dock and the internal fan is whirring; the temperature of the air coming out of the vent is high. With this cooling attachment, the internal fan is barely stressed and the exhaust temperature drops a LOT, and the Switch is just a little warm if you undock it. This video is just bullshit.

[@CynicalDriver]

SquillagusNiggle no, this video isn't. The fan is "working" for you because of the poorly designed ventilation on the Nintendo dock. Removing the door on the back allows air to move more freely through the vents, which accomplishes the exact same thing the fan does... But without buying anything. Before you claim something is bullshit, you should actually watch the video and pay attention. Never know... You might learn something if you engage your brain.

[@HDFoxra]

So uh, you're mostly right... yet, more so wrong... The only reason why these things have a bad rep is because with the XBox 360, the fans actually blew INTO the console while the console's fans were trying to blow OUT. THAT is the only reason it was so controversial... Now then, in actuality... unlike what you stated, having a set of fans in front/behind another set of fans DOES ACTUALLY HELP. The key is that each set need to be spinning in the OPPOSITE DIRECTION. This increases static pressure and airflow. Don't believe me? Go look up some videos about how servers stay cool while being so paper thin (relatively speaking paper thin). The things WILL keep your console cool IF they are designed/implemented CORRECTLY. Because A) more airflow DOES help. B) the more dense that air is, the more it DOES help (in terms of amount of air, say, per square inch. not that the air itself needs to be a dense gas. just that more 'air' in a given square inch does indeed help). C) computers stay cool exactly.. and i mean EXACTLY like we humans do... The air passes by, soaks up the heat, and moves on along. There's zero difference. We use sweat as a means to more QUICKLY get rid of that heat, while a piece of electronic equipment uses helpful heat sinks made out of metal to do the exact same job. The greater the surface area, the more heat that gets dissipated, the more air that is passing by that surface area, the more heat that gets dissipated... plain and simple... Now then, sure the consoles are designed to do whatever in whatever location/situation. Big whoop. Did you also know that the things run better when cooled? Hmm? Sounds like something that'd be common sense, but I guess not. Sure it IS going to get hot. But heat kills electronics. Keeping something as cool as possible always and i mean ALWAYS extends its life... An xbox or ps that is always hovering around 90C isn't going to last as long as one that's constantly kept at 60C. Its just how it is. Its like an engine for a car... If it gets hot, it dies. Yet if you keep it cool, it'll last you nearly 100 years! Its just the way the universe functions. So every degree you can get that console cooler, the longer your console is going to last. Ontop of that, those consoles that actually have a 'turbo' or a 'boost' with their CPU/GPU/APU/Whatever, keeping it cooler means it can Turbo/Boost alot higher for a lot longer. AKA BETTER PERFORMANCE... Of which trust me......... Consoles need every tiny ounce of extra performance they can possibly get... considering how underpowered they really are. So in conclusion, yea sure, don't buy those things because they are poorly designed and don't actually do things entirely how they need to be done. But that doesn't mean that EVERY cooler out there is crap. Some perform the job perfectly fine. Just a matter of finding them.

[@tristanbackup2536]

Best to make your own fans out of old PC fans & AC power adapter cords, strip, solder then electrical tape & viola.

[@kitterbug]

I always thought this guy was an idiot, first he forgets how the 5th generation was a big step for games, and now all this false information.

[@Mike.d.p.]

Try to put words in the correct context next time, that way your giant walls of text-aids won't make u look so silly.

[@nowonmetube]

@@kitterbug which one would you consider the 5th generation??? Atari 1, NES 2, SNES 3, PS1 4, PS2 5 ???

[@kitterbug]

nowonmetube PS1 Sega Saturn and N64

[@KingofHearts67]

Having a higher volume of air flowing past a heat sink does help though, it keeps the surrounding area as close to room temperature as possible which is good because heat sinks work more efficiently where there is a higher temperature gradient. Of course you're going to get diminishing returns by adding more and more fans. Having more air pressure also helps because there is just more for the heat sink to transfer heat to, though I don't know if you can really build significant amounts of pressure where that would help very much. On my PC I have three intake fans and one outtake plus my blower style GPU cooler, but I really don't think the third fan changes a whole lot, I mostly got the third one for aesthetics.

[@xLTxVEGAx]

Honestly the best way to get sufficient cooling isn't targeting the fan that's preinstalled. Id recommend replacing the craptastic thermal paste they use to mass produce the consoles. The original thermal paste is like a rubbery coating over the cpu die, it's supposed to be more of a paste. When the thermal paste dries up it loses it's heat conductivity making the cpu hotter and making the temp sensor ramp up the fans to max speed. Thermal paste replacement will not only increase heat dissipation but it will help extend the max life of your fans and console. Now if you're afraid of taking your console apart then the only thing I could recommend it making sure it's in a well ventilated area.

[@PixelGameSquad]

Legit almost bought one hahah whoops

[@pedron30]

I was just searching for cooling fans hahaha, then saw this video, researched a little and well, I'm glad I didn't buy it

[@daddyjankie]

*Because you eighter bought a switch or you are a DUMBASS*

[@Billy_Souls]

Ps4 pro could really use a better fucking fan/cooling solution. Sounds like a jet

[@pedron30]

I even consider te ps4 slim makes a lot of noice, I can´t imagine how loud thepro is

[@nowonmetube]

Superhero Game Squad you must be a VERY stupid person then.

[@thorodinson2017]

When they were big for the 360, I heard those external fans were actually contributing to them overheating. My friend bought one and his xbox got the red rings, he was able to send it back and get a new one. Put the cooler on it and he got the red rings on it as well within a couple weeks. After that, got a replacement and didn’t use a cooler again, and no issues

[@WulffDen]

Yeah. I would warn people when they’d ask for it at GameStop

[@ddub1253]

The Wulff Den you did your job so good on you

[@bland9876]

The Wulff Den how did you not get fired?

[@bland9876]

I bought a faulty product from gamestop and when I returned it i told the person behind the counter how he should tell people about how bad it is. He said he would get fired if he did that and it was agent the policy to tell people not to buy stuff from them. Imagine what the company like Nintendo would think if they knew GameStop employees were telling people not to buy a product from them like why would they want to sell with GameStop the employees are just going to tell people not to buy the product

[@SlavicUnionGaming]

justin rivera you cant blame bussinesses for trying to make money

[@vitalepitts]

wow this dude's really kept this video up this whole time, has he ever addressed the criticism?

[@boomer150]

On a hot day when my AC was broken it was like 95F in my room and while playing Destiny 2 my Xbox One X was on fire (not literally) but the air coming out the back felt like a hair dryer. I didn’t want to wait 3 days for Amazon so I African engineered it. I Went and bought a small desk fan and using duct tape and cardboard I created kind of manifold that pushed air in through the intake and I saw a considerable improvement in frame rate. It looked like shit but worked like a dream.

[@mitasmight3121]

It wouldn't be a problem, but the switch is known to warp due to the heat. Mine was warped after only a month of playing it. Unless different materials are used in the future this will be a problem for every switch made until a new hardware revision comes out.

[@Astryx]

except in this video you're wrong, and its doesn't take a scientist to tell you that more airflow/air pressure will reduce temperatures its just common sense.

[@OhSoTiredMan]

he is overthinking.

[@bmxcmxgamingbmx5867]

Actually more air doesn't always mean colder take playing a wind instrument after playing that for a while it will be warm and putting more air through it doesn't make it colder

[@george_denbrough]

@@bmxcmxgamingbmx5867 You should really go back to science class

[@jnoirj3124]

@@bmxcmxgamingbmx5867 That's air that has passed through your body and taken in your internal body temperature, as opposed to room temperature air passing through. If you used some kind of device that pulled in cool air and had it push it through the wind instrument, it would be cool to the touch.

[@natemaretzki5091]

Drinking game: take a shot every time he says fan

[@thebigm8052]

Why are you killing innocent people?

[@PixelPickaxe]

No, the laymans versioning of what's happening is incorrect.

[@lnx900]

Yep, wind does help cool things and of the things are wet wind is just way more effective.

[@primetime3999]

Blowing air on metals, food, and chocolate cools them down. The blowing I do in my laptop really cools it down.

[@IceAge20017]

They really work. It enhances the built in fan to cool faster.

[@ddub1253]

and everyone's worried about the switch over heating check out spawn waves video he purposely overheated one and it took a lot of trying to over heat it and it over heated at like 170 F so you can play it in a blazing parking lot n it'll be fine I have no worries. these things are designed for it so I don't worry

[@uranus5209]

Derek Delisle yeah it makes me cringe everytime I read a comment saying they avoid docked because of how hot the switch gets in it smdh

[@Mindwipe96]

More people need to like this comment.

[@JRBowling1997]

Spawn wave is a great KZbinr.

[@d.r.1402]

DDub 64 - On the other hand, see Mario 64s video about him replacing his unit because it was left on inside a case and the screen started coming undone.

[@arman1313]

oXY nary only the plastic screen?

[@Spintechfilms]

W.W.A.V.G.J.D. What Would Angry Video Game Jesus Do?

[@williamlong5810]

I have a cooling stand for my Phat PS4. Without a doubt, it works and keeps my PS4 cooler than it was before. It certainly doesn't sound like a jet engine anymore. Also not every instance of a console reaching max temp will give you graphical artifacts. Like PC's, the processor or graphics chip can scale back to produce less heat, which can affect gameplay like lowering frame rates

[@samutraifin]

YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO! "buys one"

[@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial]

quotation marks??

[@jalene150]

I want to see a watercooled switch mod

[@george_denbrough]

If Linus hasn't done it already he will soon

[@agamer107]

George Denbrough it’s been done you predicted it

[@tacticalluke8782]

He made a water cooled calculator pretty sure he can make a water cooled switch

[@george_denbrough]

@@tacticalluke8782 Well he did so...

[@shapetick4096]

@@george_denbrough link? i cant find it anywhere :(

[@Kafen8d]

Fun fact: your "super" fan is actually how you increase the pressure of a fan, so yeah it actually does help.

[@kevindawley54]

Well I guess I'm an idiot. Lol

[@Supersteam09]

If you kept your consoles well ventilated, you won’t need to buy a fan.

[@Supersteam09]

Hybrid [09]x That might have been the manufacturer’s fault. There are times where the greatest care can be fruitless if the object is poorly constructed.

[@spartankongcountry6799]

Hyper Sonic My Xbox 360 overheated and is now shutting off on it's own. All because my dumbass left it in a bookshelf.

[@sarukuga7734]

lmao

[@davepearson1538]

I’m not worried my console will break. I am aware of the FACT that excessive heat degraded components and shortens lifespan. I have a little USB powered desk fan that I put behind my switch dock and turn it on when I’m playing demanding games like BoTW. It certainly makes a difference. When I use the fan the console never gets more than warm. Without the fan it gets very warm almost hot. And with how close together all the components are that can’t be great for longevity letting it get that hot all the time.

[@FireTehmk]

Makes sense for most of the consoles, especially if they are blocking the vents that are designed for venting. But a small USB fan about 2-3 feet pointing at the Switch does help.

[@CHRISTOPHER-fq9gq]

He looks like john wick

[@Travsticles88]

Chris4real or cat stevens

[@MacheteEnima]

Or a poor man's Billy Mitchell.

[@nowonmetube]

Or Mel Gibson in Brave Heart

[@SSNebula]

Or a mix between Russel brand & john cusack 😏😂

[@ninetyninenights6226]

or Jesus

[@randomtube8226]

Room temperature and space for ventilation is key in this matter. Maybe all you need is a fan to help circulate the air around your room. The colder your room, the cooler your console will run. Remember high humidity is harmful to all electronics. So dryer the air the better. Avoid direct sunlight exposure on your console as well. Also keep your console dusted and clean. Dust can build up in the vents and slow down or block airflow.

[@MondoMurderface]

Agree with the fan on fan point. They are already designed to push hot air out unless the internal fan broke. But I will say having a fan literally blow on a console from a distance actually can help because your cooling the air before it goes in. This is obviously not what they are selling though. I used to have a house fan aimed at my 360 and it actually prevented it from RRODing on me, which it did all the time without it.

[@1DVSB]

They actually do work to an extent. My brothers PS4 fan died. It would overheat and tern off in a matter of minutes. I got one of these, intending for it to be a temporary fix until I could replace the fan, it works good enough to play on the PS4 for hours.

[@TheInfectiousCadaver]

i remember buying a nyko intercooler for my 360, if anything i think it helped my progression towards the RRoD

[@nathanhamman418]

The ones that stack on each other, don't do much, a bit less common are the ones that attach to the intake. These can help lower temps and increase the life of a console. As for the 360, cut a nice pair of holes in the top, put a dust filter over them and install pc fans powered by an external source and hope it's enough

[@austinborton8693]

I got one for my Wii for 49¢ when Circuit City was going out of business. The internal fan wasn’t working right so I put that on it until I had time to properly fix the system.

[@cacecarlos]

I'm a scientist and approve what you just said

[@DeathsTacoIsHere]

Carlos Castro thank god we always have Rick and Morty viewer in the comments section.

[@cacecarlos]

TacoIsHere What do you mean?

[@Louis-ok3ry]

Carlos Castro it's a joke

[@zacharycarrier2890]

Carlos Castro I watch vsause I'd like you to match MY IQ which way is down?

[@ZzRydoxzZ]

well, I agree that the fans are not needed, but more air passing through the hot parts of the console does cool it more. Look up forced convection for more info. So most of your "more fans don't do a thing" arguments are, not entirely true, or false. It depends on the configuration of the fans, so I dont agree with everything you said :/

[@XiahouDun1225]

I feel like everyone here is just forgetting about component longevity. Sure, running the system while it's hot is "fine" for a while, but over time the electronic components degrade. It's not just thermal throttling fam...Also positive air pressure in any computer, or console is a good thing, because it helps to keep dust from getting sucked into the system through the little seams in your system.

[@hbarudi]

Does not have to be a fan for a console, just any of those usb fans if you have to put the console in a tight space and need better air flow, be sure to have the fan target the intake spots on the console.

[@tbtb66]

The only console I've ever let come close to overheating was my 3DS back when Smash first came out. I've left a Wii on for a week straight and it barely ever conducted any heat.

[@lucatorricelli6766]

if you leave a console on it's not gonna overheat dumbass... activity needs to be taking place in order for the hardware to be pushed, so even if your characters are left standing, you are not making full use of the components, thus obviously not causing overheating.

[@drexismaximus2072]

I had one for my Xbox 360 and it still red ringed lol

[@funtimezane2964]

Wait did I just see that Nintendo switch come out of a toaster?😰

[@DeltaSerch]

Funtime Zane296 no

[@e.oterootero7604]

Epic

[@umbrellaeyethingguy4665]

it was either stop motion or he had setted it up in a way that the console wont be damaged

[@agustin47]

You saw a switch being carefully put on top of a toaster, and a simple video edit to make it appear, it was never inside tho :P

[@dragon1130]

I assume the toaster isn't plugged in and they rigged it in a way so that they could get it to go off, probably someone off camera holding the button down until the shot was ready. I'm just surprised a Switch can fit in a toaster.

[@justinvalentin8983]

I agree with the fact that they’re not necessary and taking proper care of your console and giving it breathing room is the best thing anyone can do, but I wouldn’t call these external fans useless. Stacking two fans on top of each other likely will improve static pressure to get air through the heat sink better and provide some cooling benefit. Having an intake and exhaust fan working together will help move the air from one direction to the other better and exhaust heat more efficiently. There are some well-made cooling products that can extend the lifespan of a system, although there are some terrible ones as well that may do more harm than good if the fans blow in the wrong direction, poor design choices, etc.

[@TzuCraft]

The switch one is legit. I've had it fully overheat before and fail to work right. When this happens, which is as easy as leaving it in the car for literally 10 mins, the fans that expell the heat also overheat slowing to a crawl. It took hrs to cool down enough just to shut down or reboot. So having those extra fans to push more air into can really make a difference.

[@dashrendar8739]

I was playing BOTW and after 7 hours I started to have performance issues so I had to stop for an hour and let the Switch cool off. So it is an issue in some instances. I pointed a little desk fan next to the system that blowed through the dock channel and that seemed to help a lot. No more issues. So keeping the Switch exterior cool helps.

[@ThatJulianKid]

this reminds me of when people say not to clean your ears with Q tips because it’s really just making it worse

[@bpkop1387]

Even though these fans/coolers you showed might not work i find after playing the switch for hours docked on an open desk i get pretty significant frame drops now and then. Especially streaming for hours and hours. These may not be the solution but ive seen some 3d printed solutions for real cheap with real tests showing the temp drop compared before and after.

[@jordanmillraney5481]

I don’t know if I should agree on you with this. I thought external cooling fans for consoles are meant to actually cool your console.

[@TheReal_ist]

For those curious one fan on top of the other blowing air in the same direction is actually good because of basic thermodynamics. The thing he is talking about is still correct tho. The only way these coolers for consoles would actually do any good would be if u were able to match the exact rotational speed of the fan in the console expelling air and the fans u strapped on the back. And since this isn't a PC with PWM fan controls u aren't gonna be able to do this. Unless u open up both devices and desauter connections to make it work like that. But seeing as the console is supposed to run fine even in cramped spots the entire point of even doing the sautering work required to sync the EXACT speed of two fans is just pointless. So overall nice video even with what I said added your points still stand (Luckily). Good to see that...........

[@BeatsForte]

I have that same fan for the Switch. Before I got it, my system would get incredibly hot every time I played Mario Odyssey for only a few minutes. That never happened before with any of my other Switch games. Nintendo told me there wasn't much they could do and I should just keep an eye on it to see if it got worse. I ended up getting the fan for Christmas and, since I started using it, the system hasn't gotten anywhere close to as hot as it did before. So as far as the Switch is concerned, I wouldn't call it a garbage product. I still wouldn't get one for my Xbox or Playstation though. I learned my lesson from the damn Intercooler.

[@dreadpirateblackfoot4300]

BeatsForte same boat you in. also skyrim and zelda get hot. street fighter or games that are less intense don't heat it up that fast. but i like mine and the way it looks. put leds in it and looks amazing. give it a orange glow like the gamecube power light.

[@veropag1850]

i am actually making a switch dock with a built in fan that links up with the intake vents and only turn on when the switch is slid into the dock, the way i am doing the on/off feature is putting a tact button in the spring loaded mechanism that the regular switch dock has

[@geovaniprats5950]

"Or maybe you're an idiot and left it in the toaster oven too long!" -Wulff Den

[@roberthernandez9034]

This is all about negative pressure vs positive pressure. If you can use intake fans to create positive pressure inside the case then you won't have hot spots. If you have an exhaust fan and create negative pressure then you have areas of dead space where the air doesn't move. In that configuration, the hardware layout is more critical.

[@mannyfresh1087]

When a console starts getting hot and the graphics get weird all you need to do I clean it out really good and it should work again and having an intake fan or just upgrading your console fan can make a huge difference on how smooth it preforms

[@patrickleahy9718]

Is there no tests that show with and w/o the fan using thermal vision to show the temperature difference.? 🤔🤔

[@summerycast7936]

Patrick Leahy Check out SpawnWave's channel. He did a thermal test for the Switch.

[@Censorshift]

I’m tempted to put a 5v fan in a push configuration by that slit

[@grass3541]

there goes 7 minutes of my life I'll never get back *:(*

[@StormiWolfYT]

Bruh, chill.

[@m.arceles]

Bruh, chill.

[@ParanoidThalyyMVS]

Saying bruh is so cringe

[@grass3541]

@ParanoidThalyy well you just said it-

[@CrimsonCasualty]

Would be curious to see through a thermal imaging camera if there is a noticeable temperature difference with these cool air intake fans. Regardless informative video, keep up the good work.

[@Spawn_Media]

There have been tons of videos that prove they are bs

[@summerycast7936]

Spawn Wave did a thermal heat test of the switch with the exact device you're describing. I recommend checking out his channel.

[@marcfuchs6938]

The Switch was tested by several people, how much temperature it can take. Granted, even when all the ventilation slits were permanently blocked, it was hard to make the thing stop working. This console does not at all have an overheating problem, not mobile, not inside the original dock. As it is correctly said - if the console works as expected, it's not overheating, hence no problem. And no problem can not be solved. Still, as the tech nerd that I am, I removed the original compound between processor and cooling unti with a liquid metal compound. This is nothing like necessary, but I have good feeling when I know, that the whole cooling system works even better now, and the processor staying even cooler. The practical use though is, slower running cooling fan, which results in a tiny bit of longer battery life. And the knowledge of having a technically advanced system is nice, because I am seriously not a fan of that common compound everybody uses today, which looks like some weird half-liquid plastic. And it was not very hard to get to the processor and cooling unit of the console. Tearing apart the joycons and putting them back together is far more complicated.

[@fawkurface46]

pc gamers: "more airflow=better performance" console gamers: "the airflow is fine from factory"

[@Lanosrep]

"Just get a different dock" *Looks at recommended* "The problem with every 3rd party dock for Switch"

[@idlehour]

Many work well, you need to pay attention to details on the way power is regulated and such. Also very easy to take out the dock internals and buy a premade open dock.

[@ight3817]

Think you got too much into your ego for this video... lol

[@lindsey9650]

I’ll never forget my first red ring 😭

[@tangomango1376]

Same😞

[@sleepwalking117]

I'm late to the conversation but the only reason I want more airflow to my switch is because it's an arm processor. The hotter it gets the more it drops preformance to cool off. I've been thinking about making a crazy zombie switch and fabricating a small liquid cooling loop for it. Of course it wouldn't have a screen and would be HDMI only but hey maybe it would stay at max quality more often if not always.

[@devKazuto]

You haven't thought about one specific thing called dust. If you console only has one outtake fan the console will have a negative air pressure allowing dust to get inside much more easily. If you have a stronger intake than outtake fan you've got a positive pressure and thus dust from the outside is less likely to get in, unless your intake does not have a dust filter. And blowing air on something makes it cooler. Just look at your PC cooler. You've got heatpipes that transfer the heat to the fins which heat the air around it . The fan removes this hot air and "replaces" it with fresh cold air, which can heated up again. Your radiator in your car works exactly the same.

[@SpaceWaffle]

I have the first launch ps4, and it gets ridiculously loud and really hot. I dont know if my situtation is different because its never overheated, but it gets my whole room hot and wherever i put it it blows hot air all around the room. For right now i always keep the celing fan on and keep it in a ventalated area. But i dont know if these fans would help or not.

[@questionablegaming3260]

Same i have a first gen Ps4 also and its literally loud enough that I can't sleep with it on without anything running it always has to be in sleep mode

[@J0xxe]

The console outputs same amount of heat (in watts) no matter what. Adding fans doesn't make your room cooler.

[@skkat7336]

@@questionablegaming3260 lol baby. also what are u doing in your sleep the requires enough computing power to activate the fans?

[@questionablegaming3260]

@@skkat7336 if I have a game up even if it's just idle in the back ground the fans will be on

[@skkat7336]

@@questionablegaming3260 ok but why do u have your game on while ur sleeping?

[@rachelslur8729]

As long as a cooler isn't plugged in a console, it helps.

[@leecroft1983]

Wise words

[@ikonix360]

And in the case of the 360 using a cooler would void the warranty.

[@leomon32]

Is it that kind of dock that bust your console and Nintendo will refuse to refund you ?

[@Renvaar1989]

Feel like the warping for the Switch is a different matter, its nothing to do with overheating the components and more about the plastic bending after extended use. Someone already showed the switch shuts off at 67C, doesn't mean the plastic won't start warping after how ever many hours at 60 though...

[@ForeverJohnnySoma]

I would agree the fan placement and directions is very important. My Xbox one x, after longer then average gaming sessions with new games or UHD video, started shutting off by it self. When turned back on it would immediately shut off. My cabinet has many ventilation holes, but no fans. It got much hotter then normal in the cabinet. So I placed a fan for sitting hot laptops on your lap underneath the Xbox and that amount of air flow seems to have done the trick. I believe all’s it is doing is pushing enough air so the heat doesn’t just keep building. I ended up installing a cabinet fan in the top section to spit out any warm air rising to the top and haven’t had an issue since. Loved the video! Subscribing

[@pac16]

I didn't even know these existed lol. Hooray for living under a rock.

[@karnagefails333]

Pac 凶 You're not the only one; I thought the market for this crap went dead after the Xbox 360 red ring of death fiasco.

[@mabiee9683]

"Get a different dock" I'd rather not, thank you very much

[@dragami1607]

0:00 I thought he was talking to me I got very sad.

[@Toruntk]

Lol that guy doesn’t know how to make a video

[@chaytonbeacham9248]

I like people like this very straight forward and don't mess around

[@ginnai]

The Switch also has a battery, important distinction from a/c supplied consoles. Batteries don't like heat, so dropping temperatures does have notable advantages.

[@elliottjennings1948]

Great Vid, like always and i kinda dodged a bullet thanks to you because i was actually was considering about buying one of those fans for my Switch Console in hoping that i won't overheat my system thanks to you i don't have to worry about making my system hotter and potentially ruining my system so thanks Wulff Den

[@SquillagusNiggle]

They actually do work.

[@zachburke8906]

In the switches case you don’t really run any risk of heating up anything in the console. Majority of the extra heat will be in the power brick, not the console!

[@noobFPV]

Dude. Watching few of your videos I can see you talk about things you do not understand. Please just forget science. You don't seem to have a grasp on how world works. You are funny, I don't mind hearing your opinion, but don't try to use logic, you are just not good with it.

[@jameshilferty5403]

So true

[@Awsomecraftero]

SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING A CONSOLE FAN WOULD SAY

[@hyperatlas8876]

Minx sounds like something a pc player would say

[@your_average_cultured_dude]

@@Awsomecraftero actually, as a PC player, I agree with the og. Wulf is awful with science. He has no idea how airflow works.

[@aidenwise4749]

so your not a fan of fans, so what?

[@rumblingend8443]

Of xbox

[@xavierxavier3610]

Aiden Wise I legit know a person with the same first and last name as you. What are the odds?

[@memes_6980]

Xavier Xavier pretty high considering a shit load of ppl have the same exact name

[@xavierxavier3610]

memes_ 69 not the same first *and* last name

[@memes_6980]

Xavier Xavier yes exactly. I’ve searched up my full name and seen a bunch channels that have the same name as me

[@BlackThanator]

I'm using a cooling pad for my gaming laptop, since it is a custom build and thus I'm not sure if all components are getting enough air. But since laptops suck in the air from the bottom and blow it out to the rear or sides, just elevating it off the ground already helps to give it more air.

[@TimmyTheSnail]

I actually do have a small fan that I put on top of my Xbox one because it gets super hot in the summer and this small fan does actually help because it helps suck the hot air out of the console faster than the internal fan can expel it, therefore removing the heat faster so the console can keep slightly cooler. Trust me it does work, I’ve tried without it and the Xbox gets so much hotter

[@kid12j]

I just have a normal fan pointed at my switch

[@Lazarus65]

I can tell you from experience that YES they DO WORK. Depending on which one you buy. If you have ever built your own PC or upgraded yours, you would know about how fans work. Same principle when it comes to consoles. The external fan takes the load off the internal fan to lengthen the life span and allow the console to work less. I have used external fans on both my Xbox 360 and my Xbox One. Also, it's not that I think it's overheating. I know after a long gaming session your Xbox can over heat and cause performance issues in some games. Sorry, I don't know where you got this information (was brought here through autoplay after watching Xbox One fan mods), but you are wrong to say that they are completely unnecessary.

[@jstnnixon]

Have people really been having overheating problems with the switch? I leave mine in that dock that came with it, and I haven't had a problem.

[@karnagefails333]

Justin Nixon Same. Haven't had a problem yet. Hope it stays that way.

[@FleeceJohnsonDaBootyWarrior]

I charge it AND play simultaneously. My phone gets much hotter when doing they same. My Switch would be a decent hand warmer on a cold day at worst.

[@Bradyboy26]

They should not have if you look up spawn waves video on it you will see that the switch should not over heat for a very very long time in very rough conditions

[@gengavari9460]

J De Leon don't you HAVE to play it while charging

[@fingmoron]

The switch is supposed to be able to perform at far higher heats then most consoles I think.

[@supremelemon6934]

1:47 -blows in my direction me: "HELP IM EVAPORATINGGG"

[@0xMarshall]

I put a USB fan on one side of my PS4 Pro and it works

[@carsencritchell9770]

I've never bought a game console fan ever...

[@leecroft1983]

You haven't lived till you do, it's life changing.

[@jenniferm2926]

In my city is like 105 hot ... Have overheated 2 ps4 1 nintendo and 2 xbox360. What can i do so

[@MrKingjordan]

Using AC to cool down the room will help

[@Mark-xw5yt]

Dude I finally got a switch yesterday. After watching all of your switch videos 😂

[@dada82net]

Dude....the lighting in this Video is sooooo dope!

[@Toruntk]

But the content of the video is incredibly dumb

[@idlehour]

The end point of what he is saying is. The consoles are made well enough that these things are uneccesary and if there is an issue its either a fault with the console. Way its stored. Ect... The console is made well enough to handle things under a high % of variables. There are many fans that push air in when they are over vents to take it out. You can buy a fan i forget the brand but there's a ton. Its essentially a fan you would put in a PC but attached to a stand. I put that a few inches behind my PS4 in a specefic direction because of its proximity to a breaker box for the Dev kit attachment which gets hot, and the PSVR to pull out hot air and direct it away from the systems and attachments. I do this because of my setup and the newest development kit addition for testing is very hot most of the time.