Never give away free beats? (Hip-Hop producers are weak minded pt 2)

[@LBThatProducerGuy]

We definitely have the Power. I don't see rappers or singers topping the charts from acapella songs. We have to start setting that standard.

[@YoungBlaze]

lmao i "facuzaca" with this message

[@TieDiesel]

I agree 100% homie. As producers, we put our heart & souls in our music, so f#cc giving away free beats. We are lowering our value by doing that. If an producer is true & passionate about his craft, he wouldn't do that. I hear u loud & clear bro. Thx 4 the advice & vids. Keep it one hunnit!!!

[@DystinktBeats]

I agree with you 100%, especially on how touchy and small minded this market is. Both artists and beat makers. Unfortunately we live in a time where 9 out of 10 kids will message "yo how much?" with absolutely 0 INTENT to pay for the beat, or more than $10... the Slim Jesus comment just confirmed the mindframe of these young guys. Besides everyone in the 'leasing market' is using the same formula.. hats off to those who are successful, it's not for everybody.

[@Chrisreedbeats]

Subscribed! Good tips. Probably will implement some of these into my marketing plan.

[@soulghost64]

And this is why i respect you.You're honest and always give good advice.Now,as far as what people hear,that might be different but most of us get it. Keep doing what you do,how you do it,it's appreciated.

[@sontwisted]

and thank you i went off about that slim jesus statement as well

[@dogwondr]

Producers need to stop worrying about what the fuck others producers do so much. If you have a fire fucking beat, someone will pay for it. Stay in your own lane and produce quality shit, most free beats I hear have no progression and it's the same loop throughout with room for a chorus, meanwhile there's guys making quality beats and charging $50 for it rightfully. It seems like only the trash sub-par producers worry about that shit.

[@HollaFortune]

You're so appreciated, brother. Thankful for you

[@zackaryanderson7729]

thanks man i feel you on this. people need to respect themselves and others when it comes to free beats.

[@Kampsy]

And naw you aint brutal man. Glad you're saying this. Making beats cost time, and time is money. #TINSTAAFL

[@kobrahxl4846]

I agree with everything said in this video. If you look at anything being sold in any brick-and-mortar store, nothing marked in the store as "free" is ever TRULY free. There's some kind of transaction happening for you to get it. So if they don't want to come up off of money for your work, get an email, a lead, favor, hell if you're that cut-throat ask for a larger share. Anything stated in this video that can be of benefit to you! I am an artist and a beatmaker/producer myself and I couldn't bring myself to ask for anything for free. Maybe that's because I understand the producer's plight. But what many artists don't understand, as well as producers, is the power producers actually have.... But we live in an era will people will pay out the wazoo just to look the part instead of making the right investment in themselves to BE the part, yet undermine the skill it took to make that work of art...But then again it's easy for their mouth to criticize what their hands did not create... ..........and if you think overpaying = $150 for a beat, boy you have NO idea what you're about to get into!

[@JahBeyCreative]

I understood the fb post you made, and I started modeling my business towards this philosophy last year. Sadly, i've been doing things for "exposure" for 3 years, and when I felt like I was going insane, because it went no where, i stopped and all of my "artists that loved my beats" left once I started asking for money for my beats. They are all mostly working with free beat producers for exposure. Thanks bro "Stick to your guns"

[@DJPain1]

+JahBeySystems We've all gone through it. My hope is that if we hold each other to higher standards and break the beats-for-nothing paradigm, that the next generation of producers won't have to go through what we did.

[@JaiCoupe]

As a matter-of-fact, Anno Domini wanted to charge me $80k for a verse from Wiz Khalifa. He's making all of his money back from beats he gives away for free, in my humble opinion.

[@JaiCoupe]

Granted, he offered a prerecorded verse as well, but $5k is still high given the market.

[@FlauntDaGift]

2:10 LOL U wild! I agree w/you. I've fail for that in the past too, which is ok but you have to learn from your experiences. Great Job Fam! I Watch!

[@BureauBeats]

djpain1 you so right. Just yesterday I had a dude reached out to me and ask me to "send" him a beat I produced when I told him it's available for leasing he said "For how much $20" I said "Mainly I work with artists with budgets, the lowest I can lease a beat for is $100" the guy got mad said I'll be nuts not to give it to him because he have more followers than me on IG then he blocked me LMAO!!!!!! There're some emotional ass niggas out there SMH

[@chrisapostolidis253]

DJ Pain 1, you are 100% right sir. people need to take notes!!!

[@nevercanyoucant]

Thanks for putting this message out there! Good shit

[@OFFTOPTV]

You a pioneer in this infomation age community. Keep helping artist bring value to their music.

[@LucidSoundz]

I felt the same way about what slim Jesus said "over paying"? Lol smh these rappers need to think of it as investing into their sound.

[@SurgeCess]

I can feel this, much respect for sharing your insight! Also, this is hilarious -)

[@hiddenrealminstrumentals1116]

real talk bro keep up the good work respect from the UK

[@jsizzle2870]

Fire Dj Pain 1 mane that track with Vado the drama too cold☃️

[@12spin]

It's a shame how people are so quick to post negative BS comments opposed to positive ones. If they don't like what they hear or see they should move on especially if it's not directed at them personally which it's usually not. Anyway, I appreciate your point of view on these topics DJ Pain 1 & the time you invest to record & post for our knowledge & entertainment. Keep up the good work homie.

[@gameplay_tv835]

DJ Pain, I agree with you 100%. The value of producers have been greatly diminished. However, our craft and talent is worth so much more; and that is exactly why I do not give away free beats. I will never sell myself short because people will take advantage of you if you allow them to do so. In fact, an alternative to giving away free beats is to lease your beats in a way that permits you to retain your exclusive rights by contract. This method of selling beats is very effective; and if the person whom you are negotiating with is still reluctant to purchase or lease the beat, then he apparently doesn't take his so-called career as an artist serious because any serious artist would be willing to invest in his own career. Note: If any producer does decide to give away a free beat, they should still do it on a contractual basis. Retain your exclusive rights!

[@maxisaxiom]

Such Value..... Thank you for posting. Stay up!

[@milehigh860]

i totally respect and appreciate all your vids fam.. keep em coming.. i learn something new everytime i hit play

[@TERRORBEATSinstrumentals]

I agree 100%. Free beats are good now and again for people to talk about where to get free beats, get more clicks to your page(s) that in turn generating more of a buzz. I only started selling my beats about 2 months ago, and my price is £25 for a beat, but that is just me starting out so to speak, i found that hard at the start about what price should i sell my beats, but over time it comes naturally, tho i do feel sometimes i am undervaluing myself if anything comes of the beats i've sold, and my names is nowhere to be seen in the credits, or an old case of "i forgot" Gradually i will build on THAT price till i find the ideal range for my viewers, tho it is hard to find that range of what is too much and too little.. But i get that a lot about free beats, or most of the time people feel the need to tell me where their from to get a beat for free, like "hey i'm from Spain...free beat?" nah bro chill, i gotta get something from you at bare minimum.

[@TheNathtube]

Great channel lots of positive and constructive advice for any beatmakers who want a career in music

[@JDRance]

Great info chief! Keep dropping knowledge!

[@FuQyuuu]

Naw your not being brutal, you're just being real. Much Respect as always

[@paulsmith5395]

I AGREE WITH EVERY WORD BROTHER I'M A PRODUCER BEEN ONE FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND PLENTY OF RAPPERS HAVE BEGGED ME FOR BEATS FOR FREE CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF ELECTRICITY ITS TAKES TO RUN A STUDIO AND BUYING THE LATEST SOFTWARE ETC....

[@FredEFuego]

Great video and all the points were well articulated. Class is in session :)

[@863games]

I'm guilty of giving away free beats and many people have told I should sell but I haven't gotten to the quality i want. So for now I'm just making connections and improving my producing chops (while also trying to avoid the people who will only come to me just because I give away free beats). I hear you loud and clear in this video tho and honestly need to hear this.

[@DranFresh]

Everything your saying is the truth man.... Its human nature that people dont want to pay anything or invest anything into themselves. Rappers looking for free beats on youtube want the free "entitled" beats. Shit ruins the market. I won't even lie, I dropped free beats myself , and realized "tf am I doing?"

[@bigswangin]

Word!! Subbed because of this video.

[@emd1975]

You are so right, these so call rap artist,don't want to know about business the value of the song .But u see them on you tube jamming with your beat and talking about We get money. That why I stand for N.M.N.B No Money No Beatz

[@TheDJEDS]

man u giving out powerful info bruh.. like niggas would sell it for hundreds. thanks man!

[@mintbeats1041]

How can anyone with a brain argue against this logic? Value can be more than monetary. Sometimes mentorship or a lasting relationship can be more valuable. Brutal honesty but fair!

[@Jetplaymusic]

I agree with u tho ! cos at the end of the day u putting ur time and energy to create beats so u should get something from it bro... I just started making beats too myself sometimes it frustrating completing one. keep the vibes bro

[@kater115]

This is perfect. I do this alot. I have the floor and ceiling method working great for me and also I put out my own project of beats. I understand this video

[@biggdrake]

You saying "Facusacus" had me rolling.🤣😂👍

[@omkarayushbisht]

2:08 that's a comedy scene🙂 Jokes apart ,you always speak truth and the things that are best for the music bussiness

[@ProdbyGrimeyred]

lmaooo, again U serve us well. u funny as hell but I love it. I be feeling the same way on the ones who can't comprehend shit. but hopefully u used nexus in this video. lol.

[@ericmulama]

Hi. I am a kenyan hiphop producer. I really appreciate the insight in your videos. have learnt alot

[@equalg-beats71]

you are a good role model dj pain 1, Producers pls share as much as u can,

[@BigBroBeats]

Bro, I do some free beats. But I'm absolutely agree with you about self-respecting!

[@Chaosaddict1001]

People miss-interpret shit some much, lack the ability to actually process what you're saying. Of course you are gonna give away some free beats when you start out to a few people. Keep spreading the knowledge man, some of us understand what you're saying and appreciate it.

[@javierpaiz158]

"😒I understand...... your sensitve". iiiiiiiiiii LIKE IT!!😂😂😂😂😭😭💁🏽‍♂️

[@MagicNarcosis]

A nigga offered me Microsoft points to make him a beat, once..

[@DJPain1]

This is the funniest and saddest story I've ever read.

[@ericcaires6423]

right lol lol lol

[@thegeatest]

You are telling the truth dj pain1; people get mad when the truth is told, but it will set them free. causes them to look n the mirror, an see there mistakes. Hey I have this problem all the time. you have to say no some times. G-man

[@YoungBlaze]

i actually film music videos, and its the same situations,

[@BLOB_DYLAN]

Absolutely, I see that all the time. I see people like you go through basically the same exact thing and I'm a producer.

[@wormsali]

fucuss a cuss

[@ObscureMachines]

Warns about sarcasm. Follows up with immediate sarcasm...haha awesome

[@MNBeats]

A lot of times I feel bad for asking for money (I'm from the Midwest and that whole Minnesota nice thing we do) or feel like it will cut the conversation too fast. Gotta learn to break out of that, especially if they come to me first

[@DJPain1]

+MNBeats That's the choice I'm referring to. It's all on you.

[@MNBeats]

+DJ Pain 1 not arguing against that at all. Just a note to self

[@DjRickeyRicardo]

Yo my friend this is golden info bro !

[@RevelationOne]

Nothing wrong with what you're saying bro. It's all facts!!!

[@MixedByBL]

#TRUTH @Dj Pain for President

[@dryrainwetsun]

Lol...well explained... thks for the knowledge, inspired to do more research.

[@5280milehi]

good shit my G straight up just subbed I'm gonna try some the shit u said I need some good beats

[@medrie95]

Trade beats for food! Lmao, that was so funny! Man, a lot of respect for you! Thank you for making what you make! Your vids are very very useful! Best wishes, much love from Russia!!!

[@MadisonHipHopAwards]

Great info for producers to consider!

[@IzzyMakesMusic]

I feel you Pain. Funny though, I always run into the opposite. I'll search youtube, ig or twitter for producers and hit them with offers of money for their sound but they either give some BS response about how they got a virus and cant make anymore or they just dont respond.

[@MadisonHipHopAwards]

+Black Excellence Productions Yep, they don't know better.

[@RickRijuanaPro]

What do you mean offers for their sound?

[@beatfanatik]

This is well said 💯

[@bayesianbeats9891]

this is real shit man

[@alexjones4419]

I totally agree. With what you said. I trade 2 beats for a feature for my own projects or an artist I am developing.

[@drenolyn]

Dropping Gems!

[@PBLargeBeats]

PREACH !!!!!!!!!

[@Mattcurtis71]

Thanks bro. Agree 100%

[@boomhauerinthe2693]

I had to rewind this laughing too much at the fuckasus or whatever you said 😂😂😂😂

[@jacksp8de]

LMAO this is so hilarious. Funny as Fckzcuk lol. Quick question, how do you feel about selling beats off websites for 10-20 bucks? Trying to figure out if I should do that or sell directly to artists. Honestly I'd rather actually produce an artist in the studio. Seems like nobody wants to do that anymore.

[@DJPain1]

+Jack Spade I first sold beats, not on the internet but in person, for that price, so I can't really hate on it... but I think producers need better income streams. If you're not at the Vybe level, those 20 dollar beats aren't gonna pay your bills.

[@jacksp8de]

+DJ Pain 1 Thanks for the quick reply, It's probably not for me, I like vibing in a studio with the artist. I've had some success doing beats for TV which is cool, but can't seem to find artists that want to invest in themselves.

[@TheWalkingweaponDD7]

Jack Spade I would say keep cranking on TV deals and maybe video games. Look up independent game developers to build your catalogue

[@TheNathtube]

unbelievable what Slim Jesus said

[@SeanJohnsonMTS_MUSIC_GROUP]

I agree with everything you said!

[@CalibEaTzTV1]

if producers was all on the same page with what your saying more cats would be eating i love this video

[@EvenHerosBleed]

Bro I fuqes with your beats. I know I'll blow up. Hook me up with some beats and I'll give you an olive garden coupon. C; win win

[@EvenHerosBleed]

but I only have an x amount of coupons so don't get greedy with that olive garden.

[@king_p1183]

Get a better camera and put a white/green screen behind whereever you record. Good content but i almost left just because first impression told me it wasnt good

[@DJPain1]

I'm dropping everything I'm doing just to rush out and buy a DSLR that makes me look pretty, just for you.

[@king_p1183]

damn spare me

[@evanlyng738]

dj pain is a sav hows it feel to get wrecked

[@bratharick702]

RESPECT BRA

[@dimbeatz7478]

I have been trying to tell my fellow producers the same thing. everybody pays for something at the end of the day. When you spend time making a song bruh time is money. Dont be fooled that same dude that won't give you a dime for your music will pay for something clothes, cigerettes, drank etc. Its on you to decide your worth. In my city nobody likes to pay for beats but you want one from me..you paying something.

[@hartfantom]

They kinda do benefit from it on a sense of who uses the beat. For instance, If I take a free beat. Make a song with it and it blows up. Dude that produced the free beat can be like. Do you think you can give me a quick tweet or shout out saying I produced that beat. It'd help a lot. Ya, that really can go along way ,but there has to be communication

[@DJPain1]

Bro, stop it, number 1, it's a one in 5 million shot that your song is going to "blow up." Number 2, if your song blows up and all you think you owe the producer is a twitter shout-out, I hope you get sued.

[@hartfantom]

+DjRybeTV lol before*** is what I meant. See how easy it is to fix your mistakes. Somebody with common sense would go back to correct themselves.

[@hartfantom]

+DJ Pain 1 lol and you think that. Go ahead, your massive fuck up is your ego . IF THE BEAT IS FREE FUCK BOY THEN THERE IS NO TRANSACTION. NO FUCKING CURRENCY. MAYBE YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK "FREE" MEANS. My point that I tried to make is that if the person that made the beat is giving it away for free ,but the person that uses it gets a good reception from it. Then at the very least that person could do is get people to check out his beats

[@hartfantom]

+DJ Pain 1 also, doubting people will get you fucked up lol and I'm gonna pass your ass right on by when I make. Stay in your negative box. You and your gay ass subs.

[@DJPain1]

LOL awesome emotional tantrum. I give it a 9/10.

[@PercGodBeats]

This just happened to me the other day. breh hits me up and is like "yo tygerz your beats are tight. I want you to be my official producer" .... smh he might as well said " Im a broke ass rapper and I want to use your beats for free" cuz thats really all I heard. Regardless how talented an artist might be. it should be OVERstood that is the music BUSINESS not the music friendships. Everything is quid pro quo, this for that, everything has a cost, even and specially these beats. #nofreebeats

[@DJPain1]

+Tygerz Other similar statements include, "Join da movement," "Let's build," "Let's make history," "Let's make a classic," and of course, "FWM."

[@yetidreams7851]

+DJ Pain 1 v.v what do I do I want a music career this my last year in high school I love to do hip-hop and talk about real stories but I need a free beat but I feel bad about not paying them because I don't really have to much money

[@BillyBatsonMarvel]

Beats are Intellectual Properties, it's the American way to get paid for such properties.

[@canyonjones]

almost 2018 and Aint nothing Changed

[@MelloDeeBeats]

6:45 You "thumbs down'd" the comment tho HAHAHHHHAHAHA

[@fabiomartins1646]

you dammmn right I agree 100%

[@patsony]

i am proud with you brother,

[@bukkabooney3249]

I get where your coming from on buying beats, but you got to understand if that beat doesn't blow up the artists stays in the streets. The producer isn't taking no where near as much of a gamble in the sale.

[@ApeeceovshytNaymedSpaz]

YEAH I PRODUCED GRINDIN FOR MR MARCELO WHO SIGNED TO JETLIFE AND NEVER GOT NO CASH IM PISSED

[@sammosz]

Spizzy OnaPayperChase 😂😂😂

[@sorry11303]

I totally agree.

[@JRegoMusic]

as always great advice....have you made videos on exclusive vs non exclusive? how that ties in to copyright and publishing and what you should or shouldnt do? if not can you? if you have can you post the link? thanks brotha for all your videos... well put together brotha

[@beatsbyparisdarkgrooveprod1394]

😂😂😂 You crazy bro.... but yeah this needs to be heard by many ... but it won't matter half the time I see ... smh

[@r.flores3703]

I gave away beats in the past but not no more. I need to get paid for my hard work. So all you rappers invest in your music. You got to spend money to make $$.

[@Unknown-fd8kx]

DJ Pain 1, Can u make a video about ur thought on how much producer should sell their beats for? Should it be over price base on quality, how much time spent, or originality? or Should it affordable based on how much the artist or group can offer?

[@roblew5282]

Respect ✊

[@Kampsy]

I got a question... Is there a difference between exclusive and publishing rights? If I sell a beat exclusively to someone do I still own some publishing rights?

[@rebelrocksmm]

fakusacuz wit me lmao...dat gucci jacket hard doe and real shit spoken too a1 content

[@RedEyeAV]

Preach!

[@beatbone96]

I know what you are talking about bro lol Love to support the game with new fresh beats, but some rappers think I make this stuff in 2 minutes lol

[@hdhuga6980]

truth brother

[@514karnage]

''fakuss a kuss on this beat loool''...thanks for the tips

[@LizzMiriBaby]

A lotta people just read the title and felt offended from the jump lol