New 2022 HPI Savage XL Vs The Old Savage XL K5.9 - How Does It Compare to the Classic?

[@AsraiForns]

The original 5.9 didn't come with the wheelie bar or the LED battery indicator. Those are optional parts that have been added later and weren't on the RTR from the factory.

[@hybrid32494]

you're correct. The older gen savage XL in this video has some added mods done to it.

[@jackdurden466]

I recently read on the Nitrogang forum that HPI has addressed many of the issues and problems that buyers and bashers were having with the new models. Mainly the shifting and not enough shimming of the transmission. Along with various other things, since I don’t own a new one I can’t really recall all of what they claimed, but it’s apparent that they are listening! Way to go HPI! You guys have become my new favorite. Way to go on the Video! You always hit all the important points!

[@xXYannuschXx]

I really hope they get everything sorted out and get back to the top. HPI used to be the go to brand for bashers.

[@hybrid32494]

hey bro! Yes, the newer generation XL models have had all the early issues worked out. Now the shift as they should, really there was nothing else wrong with the first batch.

[@xXYannuschXx]

@@hybrid32494 Thats good to hear, guess it will take some time to clear stock here in Germany, because VERY few people buy nitro bashers around here these days. What about plastic and metal quality? I heard that the new ones are worse in that regard aswell.

[@brandenbreen2667]

Thanks

[@hybrid32494]

thank you man!! NitroGang!.

[@brandenbreen2667]

@@hybrid32494 no worries mate

[@AlCasa52]

My savage is ordered and waiting for release I’ll be one of the first orders shipped to. Hoping for early December

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude! the last news I heard also confirms December as the stock date for these trucks!! Unfortunately this one isn't mine, so looks like I'll have to order it myself also..

[@earlmoorhead5555]

Good to know the body fit old one ☝️

[@hybrid32494]

yes bro! I think the new body on the old savage with the larger wheels looks really terrific!! Thanks for checking out this video dude! Catch you on the next live with the best REAL 1/5 ARRMA table on KZbin, ahah! JK..

[@bigheadchrischris2992]

I enjoyed your video. I just purchased my savage 5.9 from amain hobbies.cant wait to get it.

[@fsauvage9281]

Here in France, i think you re really a killer with your idea of new body on old 5.9. Youre so cooooooooool !

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude! You're the col one here bro! You're here checking out an awesome NITRO RC, that makes you cool! But yes, the new body looks terrific on the old chassis, I might have to get the new body to update my old beaten up savage shell.

[@mcnitro874]

awesome bro love these videos keep them coming man the guru knows👌👌

[@hybrid32494]

thank you man! More Savage content soon, including the test drive..

[@johnedwardroxas7939]

Waking up in the morning with a new nitro gang video feels goooodddd!!!

[@hybrid32494]

best comment of the day so far bro! Really appreciate that! More on this Savage soon!

[@magnussmmevasvik7615]

Love your vids man

[@hybrid32494]

thanks my dude! I'm glad you're here and appreciating the Nitro content, not much of this stuff left anymore these days!!

[@InTheZone85]

I keep forgetting to buy this wheelie bar, think I'm going to buy it now. Already bought the GT6 body, wheels, tires and bumpers. Don't forget to install the included roll bar so you don't scratch up the cooling head

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude!, yes the rear wheelie bar is pretty important and I've noticed it tends to protect the truck and absorb lots of impacts too. And yes, the head protector will be installed for the next video, thanks!

[@tarekkhoury5384]

Best info and in depth analysis

[@hybrid32494]

thanks dude!! NitroGang 4 Life!! More on this thing soon!

[@nitrogang4416]

You can't kill the HPI Savage! Love it! NItroGang!..

[@joetrc]

Does the old wheelie bar fit the new XL?

[@rcnitroflux2361]

Can't wait to get mine bud

[@hybrid32494]

Hey dude how are you doing I’m hoping they will be in stock soon this one was a special pre-order purchase but this one does not actually belong to me l. that means I am on the list to get a new one as well

[@mikeinsi87able]

Savage baby 3 speed machine 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@hybrid32494]

the Sickening Nitro Savage XL is here bro!! Unfortuanltey this one is not mine, but gonna have to order one myself soon when it's in stock.

[@michaelwhitham4501]

Hi mate,do you know if hpi did a dodge charger shell for the savage XL ? I’ve got a hpi dodge shell on my savage 25 and I swear it looks way too long for the chassis

[@NitroMeep3.3]

Started with electrics years ago. Dove into Nitro wont go back. Nitro!

[@hybrid32494]

glad to hear that bro! It's nitro 4 life for me as well! It will never die and we will never pretend to have fun with an ARRMA>

[@NitroMeep3.3]

@@hybrid32494 lol 3 speed baby

[@hybrid32494]

@@ofnaguycarlwatts8602 hey dude! YEs, you're totally right, I agree, ahah! Especially if you run OFNA am I right lol Carl Watts!!!

[@voneboy]

The new body on the 1gen Savage looks even more brute and nicer than on the new one😂 honestly,the new one is beside the Bodycheck,bumper,engine ,17 hex ,tyres ,and the gear ratio identical to my savage XL gen 2 from the year 2014!! And you know what,I highly love that fact ,because it makes all the spares available and you should never stop a running system..The savage xl nitro is a fantastic chassis

[@hybrid32494]

hey bro! I totally agree with you for the most part! It's great that the new one is mostly the same as the old, with the addition of various small re designs, this means tons of parts for all of our old models!! You truly cannot kill a nitro!! Personally I kinda got used to the new savage body, at first I also didn't like it.

[@voneboy]

@@hybrid32494 yeah the new style body seems to have something nice on it,I’m highly considering to buy the 17“ hexes for my 2nd gen. Savage Xl k5.9 and eventually also the body as soon as their available here in Germany…Hope that the weather permits me soon to make finally a video of my Savage XL gen.2 K5.9 which I had totally rebuild till to the last screw..It’s kind of annoying that first the spot were I run them was blocked by construction working and after that the weather is crappie.. however, I prefer by far the concept of HPI with the partly relaunch in order to help out all guys that own previous Savage Modells than other brands who making a totally new chassis where nothing is compatible and in the end it’s even not better than the old one but it forces everybody to buy it due parts…So in this point I’m absolutely on the side of Hpi 😎👍

[@hybrid32494]

@@voneboy ye man, the re-loanch and update method as you have mentioned is good for everybody. Lets face it, what else could they have done, you know. I'd say the Savage formula is true to it's original form (mostly) and yet still have many good modern parts that will not piss you off. BTW this truck in the video is not mine, I was just lucky to do this video with a fellow friend, only the old XL is mine.. Maybe one day!!!

[@voneboy]

@@hybrid32494 Exactly!And let’s be honest ,there is absolutely no need to re-invent the Wheel..The Savage formula works building and treating it properly very well. So I don’t get the point of so much haters who are saying that Hpi is only selling old crap, I’m pretty sure that people who think of this never hold one in their own hands🤦🏻‍♂️ .. Absolutely no matter that it isn’t yours,because let be honest,you don’t need the update form .,The difference will be very marginal!! Ah before I forget,the wheeliebar ob yours wasn’t stock mounted from Hpi, it“s an optional part from them.👊😎

[@brucebartlett1950]

Just bought the savage (used Ebay $325 ) crappie ford body k59 good tip on the new body #16 in my collection awesome channel..

[@josephsaucedo8691]

I definitely can't wait for the parts to hit the shelfs I just need the side plate and center wishbones and f5.9 IV got a new XL all the gt6 parts are the same used on the xl. a gen1 savage conversation to a gen2 XL got love savage hpi and nitro 👍👌✌️💯🏎️⚒️🍻

[@olivierplayer1633]

the older xxl has 12 mm carb no ? the new only 8.5 mm carb but is it more powerfull ? can you switch carbs and put the 12 mm carb on the new model motor for even more power on the new model ? ?

[@midnightsmoker3767]

Nice comparison video.

[@ShadowOppsRC]

Sweet on the body fitting the old one. Gonna stick with my old one. Even with engine upgrade was only 250 in

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude! I like both of these bodies to be honest with you, the new one is much wider, so it's got a different look. IT does grow on you I'd say, but the old body is great also!! At least we will have many new parts for the near future right!

[@ShadowOppsRC]

@@hybrid32494 more parts is great!

[@hybrid32494]

@@ShadowOppsRC thats right my dude!! With a steady parts supply I will feel safe If I have to battle any Arrmas, ahah..

[@bobsrc9075]

great comparison

[@hybrid32494]

thanks man!! We going on a good test drive with the new XL soon!!!

[@manuelparada8022]

Both. Very well. 😀👍

[@hybrid32494]

thank you dude! More on this newest Savage soon, including the first run.

[@greendemon70]

Great video, you really sound like Christopher Walken

[@youriinc]

So for the rest the parts are the same???

[@hybrid32494]

hey man! welcome to the channel, and thank you for being a subscriber. Most of the parts are the same, yes. It's a pretty good design because even the old/new bodies are fully interchangeable.

[@youriinc]

@@hybrid32494 man that is great. Then I keep my old XL. Because of you I'm back in the game. Thanks mate!!!

[@romper4444]

How's it going brother! I really hope hpi does a ver.2 release of this savage cause I kinda feel they dropped the ball on using this opportunity to properly update the savage. I feel like they just did a blow n go re-release to gauge interest in the platform.but all that does is piss off the customers that were loyal enough to buy one.so I will continue to wait a little longer, it's only been what 5yrs, 7yrs? Lol

[@hybrid32494]

hey my dude! I surely would not mind another nitro on the market, I'm totally there with you on that. But you know, this Savage is mostly the same as the old one, that is true, but there really wasn't much Bad about the old one, other than the non 17mm wheel hubs. I'm glad HPI at least got this one out, and its got the updated Roto-start unit too. OFcourse some factory LED lights would be cool also. But the items that made the old savage XL great are still here, you know.

[@dionisi9961]

Hpi doesn’t have the money to re-engineer new platforms. I’m kinda glad we get to see hpi make a resurgence but I have to agree alot of their products are lacking. Arrma/traxxas are way ahead in durability and performance. The savage line does have great power but with the lack of center diff and other enhancements the thing just grenades itself. I’ve been there and I will watch from a distance, they are also unnecessarily hard to work on.

[@OrcaBoat3]

We need some ROAR- and IFMAR-level competitions for nitro Monster Trucks. Imagine a 45-minute race between nitro Monster Trucks on the same tracks ROAR & IFMAR use for nitro buggies. Hybridman, can you make this happen?

[@P.Trick93]

Nice comparison brother! I would say the new Savage got a little more Truggified

[@hybrid32494]

haha, yes!! They certainly did TRUGGIFY it! I miss the older larger wheels on the last generation savage, it was the XL model's trademark. Well at least we got the normal 17mm hubs on this truck now, means we can run any other tires we want, lotta options!! Sickening!

[@P.Trick93]

@@hybrid32494 thats so true. the most common problem they just fixed. I love this brand man

[@sergiub4013]

Hello, When YOU post the part 2 ?

[@williamoleary9330]

Ok Nitro Yoda and the Gang need some help. I have an all original LST & LST 2. The 2 runs great, but the carburetor on the LST will not open and close. I haven’t run it in a few years and it’s been kept in storage and never abused. The engine turns over and there doesn’t appear to be any rust on the carburetor. I sprayed WD-40 on and around it, but still no luck. Any ideas?

[@hybrid32494]

hey my dude! Sounds like you have a seized (clogged) carburetor. IT's fairly common and about 50% of the used Nitros I purchase have this problem. The top solution if you're able to remove the carb is to put it into a nitro fuel bath, jus fully submerse it. Eventually the oils and nitro fuel will get it moving freely. IF you're not able to remove it, use a hot air guy (or hair dryer) and put some 3-in-1 oil into the carb itself. The heat should get the oils to penetrate and it should move freely. The best thing is to eventually run some fuel through the motor and the needles. let e know if this helps you out, we need to get that nitro running!

[@williamoleary9330]

Thank you very much. I will try these steps because this beast is really in great shape for a truck that’s like 17-19 years old. You are the man!

[@williamoleary9330]

BTW there’s a guy who’s got a channel that is super knowledgeable about the Savage X and fixing two speed issues. His channel is “RC Brooks” and I let him know about your channel and that you’d appreciate his expertise being such a expert yourself. Well thanks again for your help on the LST. I’ll get after it ASAP!

[@williamoleary9330]

Dude also got a sweet LST and installed the Big Red .28. Thing is a beast and wheelies on demand.

[@hybrid32494]

@@williamoleary9330 what do you get when you put two Savage 2-speed Lovers together??? You get 4- SPEEDS BABY!! basically you get a Chrysler Sebring, ahah, JK!!

[@truerc]

Sickening

[@hybrid32494]

thanks dude!! NItroGang 4 Life!

[@jezzeestewart3712]

And I love this I love this video bro some things are better some things are worse but overall I'd say it's a total improvement and since I have the old Savage with the logo on the pipe double shocks all that stuff I could get a different feeling I'd like to get the new one one day hey but that's cool the body shell fits the old one too I'd like to see a test on top speed and jumping I've done a backflip with my old one before and wheelies one of the best trucks wonder if it's just as good as the old one as far as the acrobatics

[@jj78rcclub]

Honestly this only had a few new updates. The rest is pretty much the same as the old Savage. The biggest difference is the price tag from old to new!

[@l4ncer2005]

Does the rovan baja has more horespower?

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude, the average Nitro motor when above the .28 size generally has the same or more HP than a 29CC baja. In reality nitro motors have way more RPM and lower torque than gas engines, so it's not a good comparison, you know. But in terms of HP< yes, this has more HP than a 29-30 CC motor..

[@manospapas904]

Anybody know where to buy in Europe?

[@shiftgear190]

Do the 3 speeds come with the high speed 3rd gear now?

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude! I know this model comes with optimized gearing (meaning a smaller spur and taller clutch bell than the previous model). Regarding the 3rd gear high speed upgrade I think this does not have it. That was an option on the old generation savage, I know exactly what you're talking about. This one is claimed to have the same top speed as the old one, so I would assume this means it does not have the option high speed 3rd gear.

[@fsauvage9281]

And you know what ? I have installed on m'y old 5.9 the reverse Gear ! Oh yeah baby !

[@shiftgear190]

@@hybrid32494 that's a bummer! I remember back in the day going from the 2speed to the 3 with high speed gear and reverse module

[@hybrid32494]

@@shiftgear190 yes dude, the 3 reverse module is highly sought after these days, I used to own a savage with one. BTW I currently and working on a regular savage 4.6 with the 3-speed optional trans! Can't kill the Savage!

[@tylerjohnston4588]

Did you ever have a 21

[@Hardy_boy1]

Excellent

[@nomusicrc]

Thank you

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude!! Very little music in this video, just for you! Also, did you notice the detailed chapter options in this video (the sections along the bottom ribbon of the video). Unfortunately this truck is not mine, so I'm gonna have to order it soon myself.

[@nomusicrc]

@@hybrid32494 I didn't notice them in this video because I just watched the video how much time does it take you to do that I'm not sure how many people utilize that I was wondering if this was your truck and I'm glad you're going to be buying at even though it's really not any different than the original

[@hybrid32494]

@@nomusicrc Yes, that isn't mine, I only own the older Savage xl from this video. If you scroll down to the bottom of the description you will see a whole list of timestamps. Thats how it works. Pretty simple but tedious to do.

[@ElDiabl0187]

Badass nitro

[@hybrid32494]

thanks my dude!! unfortunately this one isn't mine, but im hoping to get my own soon.. Sickening!!!! Catch you on the next Live stream brother!!

[@dankybras8585]

Hpi truggy was the best

[@jimmyarturi6325]

At least the older bodies didn't look like Lego cars.

[@landis277]

Not gonna lie I’m a bit disappointed in the new savage xl it looks quite sickening but it would be nice if they used bigger tires like the outgoing model. And seeing reviews on KZbin and people are stripping diffs on first outing. Still happy Hpi has rereleased this beast but I hope they get things sorted out at some point

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude! I agree with you on the need for larger wheels, just like the old XL had. I will tell you the new XL body fits perfectly on the old model and it looks killer!! So far I've driven this savage pretty good, and nothing broke, but the trans needs to be adjusted, it's pretty bad..

[@rcdemonblood574]

Don't need the hub adapter for the wheel wrench if you just use a 17mm socket and a socket wrench That's what I used on all my Rc's Just plain easier

[@hybrid32494]

hey my dude! YEs! you're right, I actually do that on the USA-1 truck.

[@tonydetwiler2624]

nice i like that truck

[@hybrid32494]

Thanks 👍

[@skycorrigan6511]

Damn I just bought the 4.6

[@arturos.l.2248]

The new savage looks like an electric even though it's not

[@Rc_cars]

2022 in the yard hpi they won’t make shock absorbers with a preload with a threaded washer. everyone puts antediluvian inserts

[@narongrachmareongsit1978]

❤🎉😮😊. ไฟไฟไฟไฟแอดพ์.

[@hybrid32494]

thanks for watching my friend!

[@rccrazymike]

👍

[@hybrid32494]

thanks bro!! NitroGang!.

[@hellfire08]

💪🏼💪🏼

[@hybrid32494]

First Crew is here!! The un Killable LST king!!

[@eddyledezma8811]

you to get a old shcool losi Muggy

[@hybrid32494]

hey bro! Great idea, if I ever come across one of them I will be sure to buy it! NItro 4 life!

[@allaspectsrc4178]

This is a sickening video on in my rc opinion the best nitro rtr moster truck of all time...yes I said it ..the hpi savage is the best rtr nitro monster truck..the revo Is what it is so is the tmaxx they each stand alone..As does the savage..Again sickening!!!

[@hybrid32494]

hey my fellow Savage Brother!! I gotta say, I think you're right. The t-maxx is great, but it's not a big block 3-speed Savage! This is in a league of it's own.

[@messn03]

No mid range carb setting, screw on new one..

[@hybrid32494]

hey dude! Good observation, I did not call that out for this video, kept it a little more simple and just talked about the obvious differences, you know! You cannot fool the NitroGang Crew like you, lol! Thanks, I will be sure to mention it in the future.

[@sakisSAVAGER]

I prefere the old one! Sorry brother

[@figmo7494]

Seems like you get less.

[@hybrid32494]

I mean, thats true in some ways, in terms of the battery not being included. But honestly otherwise this truck is pretty nice and the suspension is terrific. Most people just use a 5-cell receiver back so it's ok. Plus this model has a very nice updated radio and a very torquey Roto-start unit that has been updated. Thanks for watching my dude!

[@donniemarks94]

Had to buy the wheelie bar for my kraton 6s ig arrma got another $20 outta me haha