New 2024 Triumph Scrambler 1200 X & XE Announced: Full Walkaround!

[@barkindustry8150]

800 quid to go from M50 Brembos to Nissin brakes isn't a fantastic trade off in my opinion

[@ecubels1]

😢😮😢 9:12

[@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy]

Nissin 2 piston axial mount brakes, instead of Brembo 4 piston radial mount brakes, also lost Ohlins fully adjustable shocks, lost fully adjustable forks, got a cheaper screen, cheaper paint, lost cruise control, ect. Added an IMU for cornering abs and TC, which I could care less for. They took a whole lot more than $800 out of it. The XC is gonna be the one that got away, and reviewers killed it by telling viewers it was "expensive" in every review. Yeah, because it was premium!

[@rickmancr]

As the previous owner of a Street Scrambler (and current owner of an XE), I've never understood why Triumph didn't make a 1200 "street scrambler", so the X is a welcome addition to the range. I'd prefer a 19 inch front wheel, 4-piston calipers, and 20-25mm lower seat, but It's definitely a step in the right direction. Like the new instrument set up on the X. Always suffered "puncture anxiety" on the SS, so tubeless is good. Glad to see they have gone back to a normal key ignition. Wish they'd specified the SS two-part seat.

[@ronrussell1652]

Think that's a good point on the 1200 street scrambler description. I've got the 900 and would love to go up to the off road biase XE, but my poor little legs wont reach 😒

[@ThePenoze]

Agree, they should have went with the 19” on the X model.

[@phils2180]

I have a Street Scrambler and love it to bits but I'm seriously considering the new 1200X. At 6'3" I have no inseam problems with the XE but I just don't like the look and I'm not interested in the XE's greater off road pretensions, I have a "proper" off road bike for that. A 1200 Street Scrambler would be my perfect bike but the new 1200X is now much closer to that ideal than the XC/XE models.

[@phils2180]

@@ronrussell1652 I wouldn't call any of these bikes "proper" off road bikes, they're just too big and heavy for anything other than mild green laning.

[@rickmancr]

@@phils2180 I think it depends on where you live. There's a big difference between a wet, muddy, rocky, narrow tree-lined green lane in Cymru and a gravel or dirt road in Australia or the USA.

[@toffski]

Love that Triumph have finally opened the 1200 Scrambler up to us shorter riders. Its the only thing that put me off buying an XC - the height was just a bit too much of a stretch and I didnt find the Street Scrambler as much fun. Another sterling review by the way. Keep up the good work dude!

[@ginoasci]

so you’re going to buy one today ? i got the 2022 XC, i don’t mind the stretch. let us know which one you get ….. hey, you’re buying a motorcycle today !!!! that’s awesome

[@porkscratchings5428]

I had my heart set on a 1200 XE, I struggled with the test ride as I literally had to slide off the seat to get a comfortable footing at the lights. It really was a stretch for me at 172cm. I was gutted, so got the street scrambler, tarted that up to my spec and loving it. Looking at this now has tempted me with the lower seat, might have to have a butchers when I see what deals I can get on a Bobber in Jan/Feb when sales are well down, might get the 1200 X too if I like it and see what deal they’ll do of I p/ex the street scrambler, if not, I’ll add it to my hoard of bikes. Nice review, so the X is missing a few nice things from its pricing point but I’ll definitely change the shocks, get a custom seat made, I fancy loads of chrome on it so will talk to my custom shop and see what can be done. Will definitely get Hitchcox to make a custom exhaust and change the tyres👍🍻

[@duncancleverley6366]

Massive improvements to the X over the XC.. would have preferred the speed twin clocks instead of the trident ones but the key ignition and lower seat height now make this the better choice over the XE.. although the price is lower it’s still too expensive though..

[@flyver]

Very nice bikes! But i wish they would do a tall version of the 900 scrambler, now THAT i would buy!

[@Bob-t4o5s]

Before I could not touch the ground on either model and I have owned 7 Trumpets in my 75 years, but now I will go test ride the 1200X. Pending that I might get one. FYI I have also owned 7 KTMs and lean more to the dirt. But I love the British twins, Oh and use to race a vintage 66 BSA 650/Track master frame and fire roads are OK with me to be able to have the 1200 everywhere else., Thanks Bob, Love your work.

[@christophereaves7108]

So it's £800 cheaper but really should be 2k cheaper with the less quality stuff.. haha good ole triumph

[@WyreForestBiker]

Or maybe Good ole motorcycle Industry ? ...they ALL do it.

[@frankstein172]

Looking at that switchgear on the X model, did they remove cruise control?

[@danny2607]

Already have my name on my local dealers first Ash Grey X to arrive 🤘🏼. Scrambler vibe is my favorite bike but sold my Street Scrambler after several years wanting more power and got a speed twin. Now the speed is sold as i wait for the 1200 Scram. Best of both worlds.

[@ripmax333]

Pausing the video @5:56, maybe a minor detail but does the previous model had removable passenger foot pegs brackets like the 900 model? On this one they seem to be permanently welded to the chassis.

[@FreedomRider-id6yv]

I have a 2019 Street Scrambler, a large part of the appeal is the “old school” speedo and halogen headlamp. This one is interesting, indeed. But, I wish they would have done a 1200 Scrambler and kept more of the old school aspects. However, can’t complain about a Triumph….such beautiful, smooth motorcycles. ❤

[@peterclarricoats2014]

Not to be a bad commentator, or state an obvious thing!, but It doesn’t matter how tall you are Bob, it’s your inside leg measurement that counts!. You can be 5’9”, but have a 29 inch, 31 inch or a 34 inch inside leg, which makes all the difference. A friend of mine is 5’4” and I am 5’8”, but we both have 29” inside leg seam. All that aside, love the videos, keep them coming. 😁👍🏍️

[@bobjohnson1633]

I'm sorry that you are both short and have small legs.

[@jakeviolet2195]

Doesn't matter what your inseam is. You shouldn't be trying to flat foot a bike with both feet anyway, even if you can. The proper way to hold up a bike is with one foot on the ground and the other foot on the peg - like a human kickstand. This allows you to tilt the bike over (just like when its on the kickstand) so you can reach the ground. If you are very short, you can scoot your butt over in the saddle so that one cheek hangs off and make it easier to reach the ground. If riders would learn this simple technique, all of this squabbling and hand wringing over seat height could end forever.

[@KondorMoto]

Bob you forgot to put the next video on the card at the end! Excellent review as always ✌✌

[@darlikchronicles]

Did they change anything regarding the exhaust heat coming from the cowl (shape, insulator etc)

[@victorgama3d496]

I wonder if the updated key system can be transferred/integrated to the older models? As much as the keyless is convenient, the regular key system is preferred in my opinion.

[@ilikelampshades6]

Triumph retro bikes are just the coolest bikes ever imo. I wouuldnt ride any other bike than a Triumph, they seem to be leading the way in every segment

[@AngelSapundzhiev]

Triumph is cool, but nothing cooler than a GUZZI, imo. There is something about a GUZZI, no one can match.

[@scottcalhoun5524]

Moto Guzzi! Shaft drive, huge fuel tank, much better pricing.

[@ilikelampshades6]

@scottcalhoun5524 shaft drive is a hugeeee selling point imo. I only ride 6 months of the year because I can't be arsed cleaning a chain. Moto guzzi have big reliability issues though. My local triumph dealer offers lifetime warranty

[@scottcalhoun5524]

@@ilikelampshades6 Your information re: Moto Guzzi is false/outdated. They are very reliable. I’ve own Triumph and Guzzi.

[@ilikelampshades6]

@scottcalhoun5524 maybe. They're not well known where I live and maybe the reputation of unreliability is outdated. I wouldn't know any different. They are nice looking bikes imo and well priced

[@Dushyant933]

Scrambler 900 needs a huge update

[@brendongush9822]

Good video mate, keep making em

[@sandipbhaumik]

I am saved with top spec Steve McQueen 2022, if this was the version in way back 2022, I would have chosen different bike. Idk, why people find it difficult using keyfob. Also in terms of suspension, it's not a better choice to go other than ohlins.

[@MarkissAurelius]

That new 1200 X is perfect. I’m tempted to trade my 22 Speed Twin for it. That gray color is perfect. I’d add the lower seat and some hand guards. Maybe a rear rack for style and call it a day. Good job, Triumph. Smart.

[@paulharrison8155]

I owned an XC for two years and loved it, but looking at the list of component downgrades Triumph have made to the X it does make me wonder how the hell they have only managed to save £800 over the price of the outgoing XC ?. They have made the 'cheaper' X £300 more expensive then the original XC was at the launch date back in 2019. I just don't understand why Triumph have fitted all the components from their cheapest bike such as brakes, switchgear, clocks, footrests & indicators etc The brushed aluminium guards gave the bike a premium feel so they stick painted plastic ones on instead. No doubt the standard fit cruise control got deleted as well? Backward move Triumph 👎

[@bobjohnson1633]

Not sure you understand how money, basic economics, and inflation work.

[@paulharrison8155]

@@bobjohnson1633 Oh I understand very well. This slight of hand by Triumph is up there with David Blaine & Dynamo

[@rickmancr]

Shrinkflation! :-)

[@grahamtricker4103]

I don't think you do understand how money, basic economics, and inflation works especially over the last 3 years. As a manufacturer so much has changed, the cost of materials, the cost of labour, the cost of parts, the cost of transportation, have all gone up enormously. Plus the constant changing of electronic parts from overseas suppliers, its a nightmare, so if it rides as well or better than the earlier model as well as being cheaper then that is a result for us and well done to Triumph.

[@stevenguajardo6049]

Even at the previous price, I still don't think they were expensive. Here in the US the 1200 was running at around 15 grand. Considering what you get it's not a high price for such a nice bike. I think the new lower stance helps to. I'm not really going to go off road, at least not deep out in the stx,so the lower seat is a little more relaxed. Thank you for bringing back the key for the ignition. These are nice bikes at a great price. If you want something nice it's gonna be a little more expensive. The X model is the one to go with. Love the color combo.

[@georgearcher5696]

I've always been put off by the seat height having a short inseam but I might think about this bike now

[@ripmax333]

Not to burst your bubble, but consider also that its a 200+kg bike, make sure to sit one a get a good feel of it...yes the centre of gravity might feel very low which is a good thing but if you are planning to go offroad even the smallest of rocks under a tire can put you in a position where all of a sudden you can't reach the ground anymore.

[@CharlesDaleActor]

Just so you know, Metal Mule make an either side and rear pannier rack that I had on my xc so I’m presuming something they’ll be doing something similar for the X if I the existing one doesn’t fit already.

[@robertcrawford8940]

The price of motorcycling is starting to get away from the average rider, like it but won't buy one.

[@jimgordon3468]

I had two Triumphs. Never again. What know one tells you is they run SUPER HOT. All of them. And you can't sell them because no one wants to buy them.

[@enriquejaimes3368]

Yeah, I traded my tiger for an africa twin. Great decision.

[@scottcalhoun5524]

I just purchased a new Moto Guzzi 850 shaft drive for $9100, I think they’re one of the best kept secrets.

[@dashuntas.m4045]

Unfortunately companies won’t learn their lesson until us buyers stop falling for their marketing

[@brayvdb2191]

​@@scottcalhoun5524I just miss a little bit of power with the Moto guzzi 😔

[@wiseguyrob2005]

You can buy a 18 month old XC low miles from £10k. Looks value to me now with the Ohlins and Brembo gone for the X. Ill be buying an XC I think

[@howlingmocassin2917]

blimey, Triumph listened! they get my money.

[@Nypher91]

i am so glad that i have the XC. The X seems like a cheap bike with high price point.

[@alexjson]

I was looking at buying the outgoing model earlier this year and didn't like that the XC, despite nearly being the same cost as the XE, was missing quite a few features. Went for an Urban GS instead as it handles better. The new 1200 scrambler seems to have addressed most of the issues people had with the outgoing model. As is frequently the case I wonder what triumph were thinking with the tank paintjobs - why is there a giant triumph graphic all over the tank on the X model and the big 1200 on the XE, it's supposed to be a retro.

[@Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy]

Agree'd on the tank graphic. It's not a billboard for a college kid, it should be classic.

[@roadsweride_pt]

It saddens me to see brands like Triumph doing this to so-called top-of-the-range models like these! And on top of that, they try to make fools of their customers by cutting down on the quality of so many components such as the suspension and rear shocks, front and rear brake callipers, controls, screen, tank capacity, mudguard finishes etc etc and just dropping a couple of euros...I feel completely let down especially with the X model (ex XC)! I'm sticking with my 2019 XE, which for me is still far superior in every way! Cheers Bob!

[@VivekSingh-hy1dk]

Do we get new colours in bonnies too?

[@lifeofascrambler]

Nice review! Not sure how you get your hands on them so soon! I think Triumph have squeezed everything people have asked for into the 1200X so it’ll be interesting to see how the models sell comparatively. Also, I freaked out for a second thinking I’d messed up timings for releasing content because I saw triumph official only released like 6 mins ago, then I saw your vid and immediately felt better 😂

[@bobjohnson1633]

All the reviewers got their hands on all the bikes weeks ago. They just couldn't legally release reviews until 7 GMT Oct 3

[@msims1250]

I’m interested in the new X model. I love the look of the Triumph Scramblers, but I’ve stayed away from them because the seat height has always been just a little too tall for me. I’ve had a T100 and I currently own a T120 and a Speed Twin. I may be adding an X model to the stable when they become available in the States.

[@J_SEPOi]

Which is more comfortable for long ride or touring? T120 or Scrambler 1200 X?😊

[@joel8034]

Methinks in addition to being able to run tubeless tires, having spokes towards the edge of the rim adds strength to the wheel.

[@roadwarrior8560]

spokes are for horse carts ffs.

[@joel8034]

Technically, any arm from the hub to the wheel edge/rim is a spoke. We all ride horse carts, ffs.

[@caznilo33]

Love them! 😍

[@fauveride]

I was hoping to see the exhaust line passing below in the new Scrambler 1200. My hope was in vain. I'm going to give up and get a t120.

[@lifeofascrambler]

There’s an easy mod with a zard low exhaust, but the high pipes are classic scrambler style! Otherwise they’ve got the 400x coming out soon

[@SPiBerg]

First of all, thanks for the good introduction. For me as a XC Owner (Model 2020), is no need to the change the bike. That makes my wife happy. I don’t like the odometer on the X model. The one on the 400 X looks much better. They throw the keyless system away - well done.

[@PyRoblaser]

So nobody will mention the fact that they deleted the Cruise Control on the X version ?

[@jamiemcgrory1964]

Is that confirmed? Seems ridiculous if it's supposed to be the road focused version. Where do they think we're going to need CC.

[@PyRoblaser]

@@jamiemcgrory1964 I had a deep look at the « Features & Benefits » for both the bikes on the website, and the CC switch is missing on the X version.

[@jamiemcgrory1964]

@@PyRoblaser this is so stupid how on a platform like the 1200 that cruise control isn't available for all models. That's the Scrambler X, Thruxton, Speed 1200 all without it.

[@dpuckett]

Ugh. That a non go from the get go.

[@wiseguyrob2005]

XC it is then for me

[@Nils_Martin]

Bleeding brilliant ain't it, i'll have one of those..!! 🤩

[@Gregory-d6z]

I think the new X will hit the spot.

[@thodoris3790]

It would be nice a version with a 19'' frond wheel.

[@1990-t1j]

?

[@steveramirez8270]

Is feet forward asking too much? Price under $10k US?

[@yorkchris10]

Sounds like sensible product différentiation and use case. TracTive made four-way twin shocks for thé Street Scrambler, so maybe aftermarket will accomodate Hare Scrambles.

[@s.venkateswarpatnaik2484]

There will be regular Silencer (Exhaust) Mufler for comfortable feeling of the Rider and Pillion

[@1990-t1j]

If I was in the market for one of these it would be the X. Lower seat, lower tech and lower price. The X is almost good value. I'll stick with my SCR950. NJ

[@Adventure_blac]

Love moto bob but let’s face facts, it’s less bike for less money. The bike is a lot less premium than last years plain and simple. Materials as well chassis

[@alexL2]

Oh I’m glad I bought my XE a couple years back lol This sure does seem like a downgrade. No more Ohlins? No more Showa, and smaller diameter for that matter? For not a lot of saving too. I weigh in at 240lbs and can jump across the two track railroad crossing near my house without ever bottoming out the suspension on the outgoing model, I wonder how the new suspension would compare? I do think they made the right move on the X model though.

[@VincenzoL]

The X is my new dream bike. Do you think it could be good for touring?

[@Deyvids_nfl_cards]

Finally a scrambler that will fit a small dude like me 😂 pretty excited for the driving tests. Does anyone knows if there is a quickshifter for the scrambler?

[@pinkiewerewolf]

I'd love one of these if they'd take off the ride modes, go to the dual clocks of the T-series, and simplify the bike. Switchable ABS to take it off-road, good suspension, and we're set.

[@jamesfairmind2247]

You would have thought they could have made some improvement to that horrible exhaust system with its 3 heat shields. I would love to know if they have left the cooling fins on the right side of the engine as normal now so at least if you fit a low exhaust it doesn't look like someone has gone at the engine with an angle grinder. I can't understand why after they scrapped the front CAT unit and transferred the CATS to the cans in the previous model they didn't take the opportunity to stop cutting the stupid fins away as after all, it is another process and costs money.

[@glideman]

Just an advertisement then

[@jimgordon3468]

Yes, Bob is paid by Triumph. That's why he always gets them first to review. And he is never says anything bad about them.

[@IanTheEarlobe]

Yes but triumphs are great and if we are honest most modern bikes are good.

[@vigilant.]

​@@IanTheEarlobeno

[@juanamaya6278]

Hahaha... Bob is not paid by any manufacturer. That's a fact, believe me.

[@porkscratchings5428]

Yes, a good advert that I’m very very tempted as I have a street scrambler and want more zest lol

[@navaneethaprabhu4828]

Hi guys need a suggestion to make decision i have pre booked triump scram 400x it is expected to be 3.10 in chennai on price but show room guys are saying that if i book speed 400 now i can get it at 265000 on road .....my purpose is city use mainly and little bit of off round and twice or thrice long ride(within 1000 to and fro).....i can save 50k if i buy speed 400 should i wait for scram or i can go with speed if i go speed can i do off roading and can i observe all bad patches of the round and also i am 5.6 (167cm) i can ride xpluse without issues can height in scram 400x be a issue

[@oliverstealth9649]

Made in Thailand or Tahiland?

[@kyrkap3882]

Sorry, but it seems to be a downgrade to the previous generation:( hope I’m wrong

[@ilikelampshades6]

I agree. Still way too expensive as well

[@Adventure_blac]

Yeah it def is. Lesser brakes and suspension. Not sure what the hell they are doing. Bikes usually stay the same or get better not regress. XE now has 45 mill forks instead of 47 mills.

[@chewie8]

Looks a very nice bike. Black forks are nice, never like the gold.

[@atrainunited]

Unit Garage has all the parts to make it a full retro ADV bike.

[@judge831]

I'd love to have more motorcycles that have powerful engines without all the expensive electronics. Same with cars. I should be able to choose what I want on my vehicle without being forced to buy a "premium package" to have the engine/transmission I want.

[@bobjohnson1633]

Not sure what the fancy electronics actually offer us.

[@Laksujaakso]

102 liters of luggage capacity but the rear rack will only carry 2 kg so you can’t actually put anything in the dry bag if it’s on the rack. Only the 35 liter Givi semi-rigid tail bag is new. Also, the Dakar screen looks very much like the touring screen they already offered, so is only the name new?

[@mystifiedaphid9295]

Yep, I just compared the photo of this “Dakar” screen, and it’s exactly the same as the current “Tall flyscreen” that I have on my XC - which by the way I like better than this new X model. Apart from the better spec bits, the 840 height suits me - totally get how 795/820 opens up a wider market though

[@tonybarton3746]

Like the look of them , but why reduce the size of the rear brake light ? In daylight those dastardly car drivers have even got more excuses to say , Sorry mate I didn’t see you braking 🤪🤪, keep them a decent size please 🙏. Ps I like the green colour 👍👍

[@VinCent-xy5lg]

820mm seat height hey, now that should’ve been the height of the 400X, my interest has shifted, now i need the price of the 400X to decide.

[@paulharrison8155]

It will be half the price of the 1200 X

[@Matt-mx7xd]

Sad news for Triumphs 1200 scrambler range, not only have they rendered the Street scrambler completely obsolete, they are selling the XE for £300 less but you are losing a fully adjustable front and rear Ohlins setup which gave this line up a premium feel/look. The new dash is awful, looks like it’s ripped off a Triumph Trident, which was cheap looking at the best of times. Additional extras and accessories sound good though!

[@UncleWally3]

So . . . X, does that make it a Twitter Triumph? Is the suspension as rebuildable as the Showa? If not, wouldn’t that make the “new” suspension more expensive? With respect to price - point, what’s the maintenance schedule, the cost for a seat that fits needs and is it possible to get an extended warranty just for the electronics? Critical questions aside, kudos to Triumph for hiding the tank’s pinch-weld, that one feature makes me want to check out the whole package.

[@GaryShellberg]

Any competent suspension shop can rebuild the Marzocchi units, they've been around for decades and are quite good.

[@gudalawrence3746]

What’s the best price to pay for a used trident 660, anyone?

[@simondemetriou7750]

Why didn’t they bring out the X with a 19 inch front wheel if it’s not meant to be a hardcore off roader? Then it will steer better, and I’d consider it 🫣

[@DucatiDiaries]

Wait they actually lowered price?? Someone pinch me!

[@lukakrstev6648]

They ditched Ohlins suspension

[@DucatiDiaries]

@@lukakrstev6648 ah I knew it was too good to be true. 😐

[@northernboy5427]

🤔looks like my old XC will be going up in value then👍

[@shmac96]

Now that the standard seat height is lower on the X(C) would this be a good bike to get back into motorcycling? Looking for a long term bike. How manageable is the motor?

[@hockeymann88]

So they dumped the Ohlins piggy backs on the XE to save 300 for the customer?

[@g.g.8279]

The downgrade of the specs and features is not completely reflected in the price. In my branche we call this a hidden price increase. It’s a lower quality bike now.

[@tgodla]

We are lucky, there is just your opinion about communication

[@lazypanda88]

While I appreciate the change for a more affordable 1200 scrambler.... I think they've gone a little too far in the other direction. If they had kept a the gauge of the XC then it would have been fine. But with the gauge of the trident, it feels too budget now. I'm in the market for a scrambler 1200 and hearing about a new entry level 1200 model got me excited as I was concerned about the height of the XC. But now seeing the new model, I'll be looking at the XC's and just switch out to lowering springs.

[@tiufb]

The tank on the XE looks like a Harley.

[@GavinEdwards67]

I had a new 2019 1200XE for 2 years but went back to the dealers 4 times during that time for a replacement gear change shaft. I got fed up in the end and part exchanged it for a new Suzuki V Strom 1050XT. Shame really because I absolutely loved everything about the bike except the keyless ignition (now gone) and the crap gearbox shaft 😢

[@chrisgray5837]

Dont waste your money. Ive had nothing but problems with my 1200XE (all of which triumph refuse are warranty issues) Theyve replaced three sets of fork oil seals before 3000km. The chrome is wearing away on the forks already. Weeping rear shocks that are clearly wearing themselves apart. The airbox filter cartridge is able to open itself up from the airbox and let in debris. My front rim slowly lets air out due to the alloy becoming pitted. My front discs have warped due to the cheap metal framework that connects it to the rim. Get a ktm.

[@GCTO239]

I really like your channel but now you are celebrating a major downgrade? What a shame, Triumph! Keep your old versions, guys! Non-adjustable suspension in this price range??? Quality suspension is the most important thing in my opinion. And there are more things to consider. Downgraded brakes? Are you kidding me? There are plenty of smaller bikes for short riders. Triumph now makes its once bold, tall and beautifully made Scrambler a cheap wannabe premium bike. Lower seat height could have been managed without stripping the bike down. Another thought: They could have introduced an additional sportier, lower version with a 17 or 19 inch wheel. By the way, there are also tall riders like me out there who struggle because too many bikes are cramped and too low. The 1200 has never been and will never be a perfect bike for short riders. So why detune it in this catastrophic manner? The price should even be lower. Don't get me wrong, shorter riders should also be catered for but downgrading a bike does not make it a better bike for them.

[@Bob-t4o5s]

the X model may get me this time, seat height is key with 26in inch inseam and the 900 is to gutless for me, thanks.

[@ΡίγκοςΚωλαρίγκος]

There is no need for 21”” front wheel for the x model

[@Pinewatch]

Think I’d still prefer the 23

[@BarnettSpeedSuzukiThou]

So now even worse value when one thinks about it. Should've been 2k less not 800 to justify. Shot in the foot anyone?

[@josegimb7220]

Non sense, so you are telling me that all that downgrade just for the high suspension problem? really? The screen is awful, small hard to see at first sight .... the exahust heat is a bigger problem. It looks that the changes have other origins...

[@danscram]

If the new 1200X is more road orientated bike, a 19” front wheel would’ve been more suitable, that display is slowly taking this bike towards modern appearance and for some of us who still like analog it’s a bit of a…but that’s just me

[@GaryJohnWalker1]

Nice they've made a lower priced version - 'cheap' doesn't sound right! - but under £11k should be possible

[@bobjohnson1633]

But that is what the 400s and 900s are for.

[@guillermofonck7005]

When they put tubular tires, improve the suspension and tweak the engine power of the t120 I will buy a new one but I see that they will never do it so I will look for something in another motorcycle brand

[@robertorochamartinsrocha7041]

could have launch a 660 scrambler will make much more sense ,, and be more affordable ...

[@donschiffer7400]

As someone whose first road bike was a 79 xs650, I didn’t own a motorcycle where I could flat foot both feet until about 10 years ago. It’s nice to see these ergonomic improvements in general. But it looks to me like Triumph just slimmed down the seat. I wonder if this will make them less comfortable on long rides.

[@Adventure_blac]

But hell he has to maintain his relationship with triumph so he can really slam the less primium

[@jimgordon3468]

Listen, these are both pointless bikes. They are WAY too big and way to HEAVY. And WAY to EXPENSIVE. What Triumph should have done was put the 660 motor in a scrambler. 80hp is plenty. And keep it in the low $8000 range. They would have knocked it out the park.

[@TheSweatyYeti]

Getting rid of the keyless system is a good thing.

[@ParisGentlemandriver]

The new X seems like a good deal at 800£ cheaper that the previous XC but it actually isn’t since the equipment is way down, no more ohlins or brembo .. you pay less but also get way cheaper components imho

[@davidparry2301]

Really sat up hearing the new seat height for a 1200 then slumped at the price. Almost 12k with downgraded parts compared to 9k for a new 900 scrambler- don’t think so

[@Pongpipat4849]

In Thailand we called … “ลดสเปค ลดราคา จะได้จับต้องง่ายขึ้นนน” 👍

[@ledovejpatek8803]

They took decent bikes and made them shitty. Okay

[@72Trainer]

There's plenty of "small rider" bikes on the market, even in Triumph classic catalogue. Want to sell more 1200 ? Lower the price.

[@abizerrangwala6067]

The x deserves 2 dials

[@tedsalmon2533]

Finally Triumph wised up and realized not all of us have 34 inch inseams! I am 5'7" with a 30 inch inseam and the X model might just get me to trade in my t120 for something completely different.

[@K5hK]

Ronin user : "hmm..." 😏

[@amalharidas5475]

Uhh... That dash on the X is ugly... Is there any way to upgrade it to the one from the XE model... I wish