NEW Aluminum-Ion Battery has higher energy density & longer life than lithium

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@peterzerfass4609
@peterzerfass4609 Жыл бұрын
It's not "10 degrees celsius". It's at 10C. C is a measure of how fast you charge (or discharge) a battery. It's the - unitless - ratio of (dis)charging power to battery capacity. Example: If you (dis)charge a 50kWh battery with 100kW you are (dis)charging at 2C. A Tesla at a v3 supercharger charges at about 3C initially. That is already very high (most other automakers only go to 2C or thereabouts). If they can do what they claim at 10C without destroying the battery then that's pretty incredible. Though we'll have to wait how all the other metrics pan out (calendaric aging, temperature dependency, tunraround efficiency, etc. ...)
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Жыл бұрын
250 kW / 75 kWh = 3,33C.
@DarylOster
@DarylOster Жыл бұрын
Enough reading can eventually cure the most stubborn ignorance...
@bytemark6508
@bytemark6508 Жыл бұрын
Actually, the charging factor C refers to the time it takes the battery to (fully) charge. if t = Time and Cr = C Rate, you can use t = 1/Cr (for hours) or t = 60 /Cr (for minutes). so, for example. 2C is a battery that can be charged in 60 / 2 = 30 minutes. 10C is a charging rate of 60/10 = 6 minutes. Fully charging the battery in 6 minutes would be amazing.
@paulstubbs7678
@paulstubbs7678 Жыл бұрын
He must have stayed up too late to miss what 10C is ..... oops
@chris27gea58
@chris27gea58 Жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Which means a sustained application of a 250kW charge for a 75 kWh battery gives a 3.33C charging rate but that kind of gets the constraints the wrong way around. Batteries and cells can only electrically tolerate certain voltages and currents and the charger must be able to simultaneously provide the right voltage and current or the ideal charging rate won't be achieved. Not just any 250 kW charger can charge any 75 kWh battery at the ideal/peak rate. Any electrical mismatch between battery and charger means that the actual charging rate will have to be limited in such a way that it comes in at somewhat below the peak charging rate of the battery, viz. any absolute limits of voltage or current required for safe charging must apply to the output of the charger but any shortfalls of the charger on that score act as further limitations that do have an impact on the effective charging rate in practice. So, there is a difference between a vehicle that can achieve a 3.33C charging rate on an ideally matched charger and achieving that charging rate in practice. It is, of course, quite reasonable to talk about battery charging rates at the ideal even if that isn't always achievable in practice. Additionally, there are sensible constraints that involve shaping of the charging cycle curve. That shaping only adds to charging times so, again, a 3.33C (peak/ideal) charging rate will not equate to a 0 - 100% charge (of a 75kWh battery pack on a 250 kW charger) in 18 minutes (which the C number implies) but something a bit longer that. Now, for the sake of clarity, it needs to be noted that a higher capacity (doubled, let's say) battery pack identical in design in all crucial respects to this abstract 75kWh pack we are using as an example here (that being the sole difference with additional cells architected in the same pattern as the 75kW pack in a parallel arrangement) will still provide a peak/ideal 3.33C charging rate because that is something wholly determined by cell and pack design details. You will still be able to charge the doubled capacity battery in a bit over 18 minutes. But, you will need a very capable charger - 500 kW-ish and well matched to the battery - to achieve that.
@Pneuma40
@Pneuma40 Жыл бұрын
I (as a chemist) have been saying for more than a decade that rechargeable Aluminum batteries are the future....and when they get the chemistry right they will replace most battery types. Lithium when it oxidizes releases one electron.....aluminium can release three electrons. Li ion may be the main chemistry for EVs for some time to come because of superior energy density, but I can see Al ion taking over commercial and home storage.
@stevenperry9762
@stevenperry9762 Жыл бұрын
Sam brings out a great audience of various relevant disciplines. Be cool to get everyone in a live forum of some type.
@mb-3faze
@mb-3faze Жыл бұрын
Iron (Fe) release 3 electrons also, doesn't it? (Just asking)
@sportbikeguy9875
@sportbikeguy9875 Жыл бұрын
Check out GMG, they are a graphene manufacturer, using graphene to make graphene aluminum ion batteries, and their stock is trading at an insanely low level right now, even though they are progressing quite quickly
@markhartung1190
@markhartung1190 Жыл бұрын
What about dendritic amalgamation?
@Pneuma40
@Pneuma40 Жыл бұрын
@@markhartung1190 Amalgamation as in Mercury?
@darkhorseman8263
@darkhorseman8263 Жыл бұрын
I'm an experimental longevity researcher. It's funny they are using a sulfur nitrogen chemical, and something related to methylene blue. Methylene blue is a powerful longevity chemical that is an electron acceptor that helps balance out NAD+ to NADh ratios. That anti psychotic does something similar in the brain to address inflammation. NO2 and H2S are slave ossilators of circadian rhythm and epigenetic quality control, which help balance the methylation and demethylation pathways and the electrochemical proton gradient. They are modelling a battery on human epigenetic flux and electron acceptor / donor balance without even knowing it.
@stevenperry9762
@stevenperry9762 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the additional information. Insightful.
@bryanst.martin7134
@bryanst.martin7134 Жыл бұрын
It's nice that the Sulfur from diesel is more readily available!
@DaxVJacobson
@DaxVJacobson Жыл бұрын
I'm glad the people in the comment section know something about EVs and batteries and are pointing out the battery C Rating goof, thanks!
@GlenisRetiredNZ
@GlenisRetiredNZ Жыл бұрын
As a future EV owner, I'm excited by all the new battery tech. I'm still waiting for that jumping in point where cost and battery meet my needs.
@WayneMan88
@WayneMan88 Жыл бұрын
These announcements are designed just for people like you. They carry doubt in people's minds that battery tech isn't ready and for people to continue polluting until it's too late to change. We need to change now, not in 5 years or a decade.
@markrowland1366
@markrowland1366 Жыл бұрын
Your ability to discover Annalise and report this impressive quality of information is so very impressive. Great work Aussie.
@electricviking
@electricviking Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@edward9643
@edward9643 6 ай бұрын
Get a spell checker application for your phone - I thought they all had them anyway
@frankcoffey
@frankcoffey Жыл бұрын
In time batteries will last forever. We are at the “model T” stage of this and chemistry is full of surprises.
@mkyhou1160
@mkyhou1160 Жыл бұрын
Not really, the only real breakthroughs in a 100 odd years have been nickel, and more recently Lithium. There have been hundreds, if not thousands of proposed breakthroughs the last 30 years or so, none of them make the cut to be commercially realist. Basic chemistry / physics limits what’s possible.
@jamespaul2587
@jamespaul2587 Жыл бұрын
​@@mkyhou1160a battery that retains close to 100% capacity after 5,000 cycles would last over 40 years, assuming charging every 3 days based on higher energy capacity and range and moderate daily driving for the average owner. That is effectively lasting forever as a lifetime of driving for many people assuming the rest of the vehicle lasts that long
@jinbee2627
@jinbee2627 Жыл бұрын
Referring to the 10C rate as the Celsius rate really ruins any illusion that you understand any of this and aren't just reading out press releases.
@mnhsty
@mnhsty Жыл бұрын
That and “anyens”
@jimmybrad156
@jimmybrad156 Жыл бұрын
@@mnhsty I watched it all but missed the 'anyens' one. What was that?
@mnhsty
@mnhsty Жыл бұрын
@@jimmybrad156 Said it twice when the script said "anions".
@davelawson2564
@davelawson2564 Жыл бұрын
@@mnhsty He is aussie mate , so "anyens" is correct !
@mb-3faze
@mb-3faze Жыл бұрын
Sam does a great job verbally publicizing all things battery and EV related. He slips up every now and again. Personally I find this C metric rather annoying because you you have to juggle energy, power and time in your head and it's really just a measure of how electrically robust a battery is - a metric best left out of public discussion. Just my opinion.
@bobbyshaftoe45
@bobbyshaftoe45 Жыл бұрын
Combining this formula in a solid state format.... and even a structural solid state format.. could be an actual pivot point toward full transportation electrification
@AKJammer1
@AKJammer1 Жыл бұрын
Another good one Sam. People seem surprised by all the battery vids. You said last year that battery tech was advancing by leaps and bounds. These vids are giving info on the fruits of their labor. Won’t see production for 7-10yrs, but hey, it’s coming.
@andrewsaint6581
@andrewsaint6581 Жыл бұрын
Good point, when was the first supercharger or turbocharger? They were dependent on the machining tech and the oil's ability in sheer.
@charlescole-p9v
@charlescole-p9v Жыл бұрын
One of these days an amazing new battery formula will be found. Maybe several new compounds. It's just a matter of time.
@wolfgangpreier9160
@wolfgangpreier9160 Жыл бұрын
That is being done every day. Most do not make it to the market because their advantage is not good enough. Some do. All the time.
@aftonline
@aftonline Жыл бұрын
To paraphrase Elon Musk, who said prototypes are easy, production is hard, I would say making new battery cells in the lab is easy, making them in the millions or billions is hard.
@LJ-jq8og
@LJ-jq8og Жыл бұрын
YES, and we are SICK of hearing the SAME BULLSHIT every other day... Lets wait until it is REAL before wasting any more f___ing videos on the subject...
@Roadpizza
@Roadpizza Жыл бұрын
Battery tech has always been the elephant in the room. This goes back to when Edison and Ford bought the Detroit Electric Car Company. Only to have Edison's "Fire proof" factory burned down under suspicious reasons.
@1949lwd
@1949lwd Жыл бұрын
So this is the “game changer” that will change the game from the game-changer you announced earlier this week?
@danielhuppert9184
@danielhuppert9184 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate, it's "C" rate, not Celsius rate, as in the battery was charged and discharged at a 10 C rate. 👍
@greggrant4614
@greggrant4614 Жыл бұрын
If this batterry recovers to 100% of its original capacity with an appropriate conditioning cycle, then the data (supposing the data exists) is effectively demonstrating the battery does not wear out in any fundamental manner - so, it can be made to "last forever." Please dig into this further and link us to the researchers' actual data.
@belowme4927
@belowme4927 Жыл бұрын
AND HERE I THOUGHT THE CATL REPORT WAS THE BE-ALL AND END-ALL
@aftonline
@aftonline Жыл бұрын
Researchers at the University of Queensland have been working on the Al ion battery too. I believe the company is called GMG. Nothing new about this, but then again, there is no great breakthrough to allow mass production either.
@tombriggs-bradford964
@tombriggs-bradford964 Жыл бұрын
Did I once read aluminium causes the illnesses associated with old age
@teknosql4740
@teknosql4740 8 ай бұрын
I still doubt they claim the energy density ia up to 300Wh/kg wich rival state of the art lithium ion
@sphinx8101
@sphinx8101 Жыл бұрын
I'M A USER OF THE BLUE!!!!! it is a life changer to some.
@ioniosif6371
@ioniosif6371 Жыл бұрын
The Electric Viking is great! The aluminum battery it has a long way to the series fabrication,. yara yara yara . like more other batteries,.. Till then lithium holds the ground!
@jplabrecque6708
@jplabrecque6708 Жыл бұрын
Might be a good partner with gmg. They have a aluminum- graphene in later stage of development
@chris27gea58
@chris27gea58 Жыл бұрын
Not 10 Celsius, Sam, 10C. (The 'C' conveys a certain rate of charging. To achieve a 1C charging rate the charger must be capable of providing and must provide the right voltage and current needed to fully charge a battery in 1 hour, granting that the battery must be capable of accepting/tolerating a charging cycle at that rate, too.) A 10C charging rate, which is very high, means that a full charge of a battery is achieved in around 6 minutes. The C rate abstracts away from voltage and current to focus on something very important - how fast a battery can charge (in an ideal charging situation). The C ratings don't mesh in a tight way with charger capabilities, however. A charger for instance might be capable of 10C charging for a 100kWh battery at 1000V but at 800V (which is the highest voltage that many batteries can tolerate) the charger mightn't be able to provide the additional current to maintain the high 10C charging rate. The Cs have meaning but only against a background of battery technologies that typically rate well or poorly on that scale. In relation to the C scale think about clock time first and everything else next.
@johnfrancis4401
@johnfrancis4401 Жыл бұрын
Al3+ carries 3 times the charge of Li+ But the mass is over 3 times heavier. So it seems slightly less efficient at carrying charge. SAM YOUR RESEARCH EFFORT IS FANTASTIC Thank you 👍👍👍
@christopherleubner6633
@christopherleubner6633 8 ай бұрын
Use a multiple compound anode made of phenyl thyazine polymer, silicon and titanium, for the cathode side use iron 3 ferrocyanide with copper oxide/graphite collector. The higher charge ratio and cost of the aluminum would compensate for the need for lithium and cobalt per unit of mass.❤
@philflip1963
@philflip1963 Жыл бұрын
Yet another bloody new battery technology! Well, I'm glad that they are doing so much research!
@patrickmckowen2999
@patrickmckowen2999 Жыл бұрын
Game Over - when are we going to see the Holy Grail 🤣
@anthonylosego
@anthonylosego Жыл бұрын
​@@harmony3138working on it...
@apollo-r5z
@apollo-r5z Ай бұрын
Because of the high oxidation rate of aluminum, a mechanically assisted aluminum battery that might consist of cylindrical blocks of aluminum that are immersed in an electrolyte solution and constantly slowly rotated and filed by a small, geared motor to scrape off the oxidized layer. This may considerably increase power output.
@BMWHP2
@BMWHP2 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your work, finding these new innovations and technologies. Very hopeful.
@electricviking
@electricviking Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@RWBHere
@RWBHere Жыл бұрын
If they really can recharge at 10C (that's not a temperature, btw, it's a rate), then it should recharge in 6 minutes, theoretically. In practice it will take longer than that, because it's only a peak speed. And if that can be done thousands of times without killing the cells, it will be a pretty amazing battery technology. Let's wait to see what happens over the next few years. We live in exciting times. Thanks Sam. 🙂
@teknosql4740
@teknosql4740 11 ай бұрын
Al ion can charge / discharge at rate up to 70C
@stefanweilhartner4415
@stefanweilhartner4415 Жыл бұрын
10C does not stand for 10 Celsius, it stands for Coulomb. In this case it stands for charging speed. typical batteries like in the ID series charge with a maximum of 2...2.5C. CATL recently anounced an LFP battery with 6C. that results in 60 minutes divided by 6 = 10 minutes for a full charge if they would always charge with full speed (which would destroy the battery). so, 10C is really, really fast. full in 60/10 = 6 minutes. of course you would reduce charging speed at the end which results in approx. 10 minutes for a full charge.
@easywriter7836
@easywriter7836 Жыл бұрын
This channel is great, but I’m not keeping track of all the new batteries. Or what’s now outdated. Please do a survey of the field occasionally.
@frankcoffey
@frankcoffey Жыл бұрын
Sounds like these would be good for grid storage.
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 Жыл бұрын
I'm watching this again and find it good cheers mate
@dkjawahar-techexpt671
@dkjawahar-techexpt671 Жыл бұрын
I was happy to see my clippings useful for your vast information packed video on the new modification taking place in aluminium ion batteries, from Jawaharlal Bharat INDIA 🙏
@electricviking
@electricviking Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@glike2
@glike2 Жыл бұрын
The competition among game-changing technologies will be interesting to watch unfold and may play out in multiple waves as they are not all necessarily ready to go at the same time. The RethinkX battery cost curve production will also very likely continue as predicted with all these new technologies. The future looks great!
@BuellersBack
@BuellersBack Жыл бұрын
I wonder how well these multiple game-over videos will age.🤔
@ricnyc2759
@ricnyc2759 Жыл бұрын
Most of them like milk.
@hoekbrwr
@hoekbrwr Жыл бұрын
Another example of the improvements. Might be Moore's law fits the progress curve of battery capacity?
@ronwoodward716
@ronwoodward716 Жыл бұрын
What is the temperature operating range? Most of the aluminum battery designs to date required high temperature to work. So many of these very impressive battery technologies talked about have some feature that prevents them from being commercialized or used in many applications. I believe eventually one will be developed that will have high capacity, high charge and discharge rate and low cost. Maybe this is the one! Will just have to wait and see.
@JohnJones-ri7pi
@JohnJones-ri7pi Жыл бұрын
He says the tests were carried out at 10 degrees Celsius
@owenwilson25
@owenwilson25 Жыл бұрын
Does sound wonderful, you've found a winner in curiosity terms. Hopefully in five or so years there will be a battery 'product' making good use of their work. In meanwhile hopefully much sooner than batteries using the sulphur technologies such as in development in Melbourne and iron-flow and/or iron-air technologies will also become commercially available.
@tommersch4296
@tommersch4296 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a bunch of bauxite to me
@sarkybugger5009
@sarkybugger5009 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like bollocks to me...
@briank.5173
@briank.5173 Жыл бұрын
Edison was investigating similar batteries years ago
@briank.5173
@briank.5173 Жыл бұрын
Backward compatibility is being ignored. Swapable upgradable battery packs would be nice as battery technology improves
@perthcowboy2268
@perthcowboy2268 Жыл бұрын
way to go Aluminium cheap lite weight and Abundant what more could you want may the best chemistry win
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 Жыл бұрын
Life long battery 👍
@JoeyBlogs007
@JoeyBlogs007 Жыл бұрын
It's near game over. Hydrogen will never be able keep up with this rapid pace of battery technology change.
@lyfandeth
@lyfandeth Жыл бұрын
Sam, instead of showing the the same b roll two or three times, couldn't you find something else? Or speak faster?
@johnfrancis4401
@johnfrancis4401 Жыл бұрын
Rubbish if serious.
@carusmike
@carusmike Жыл бұрын
5 gamechangers a day and you think early adopters made good choices.
@Ruhdddch
@Ruhdddch Жыл бұрын
Lol
@Ruhdddch
@Ruhdddch Жыл бұрын
I hope in 50 years we won't have that many game changers and a few good products Amen
@johnbrown4568
@johnbrown4568 Жыл бұрын
The Viking also insists that flying cars at a price point under 40k will be available in less than 6 months. 😳🤣😂
@incognito7671
@incognito7671 9 ай бұрын
Have you not heard of GMG Manufacturing Group? They are years ahead of this with that tech.
@davidinkster1296
@davidinkster1296 Жыл бұрын
I see those who think they are smart add comments disparaging 'yet another breakthrough' without realising the significance of these breakthroughs; and that is the chemistry is in its infancy and we can expect continuing advances during the next 5 decades. The sad thing is that news of these developments may be the excuse some are looking for to avoid buying an EV 'until they get the batteries sorted out'. Optimists like me think that in 10 years time I will be able to replace my EV batteries with ones that give me 3x the range, and my old batteries will add to the battery backup for my solar PV system.
@joelsstuff8318
@joelsstuff8318 Жыл бұрын
Man! If only we had aluminium in the US! Or does it still work if you call it aluminum??
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways Жыл бұрын
Let’s see if it ever comes to the English market!! It sounds like it could revolutionise electric vehicles running on Lithium batteries.
@creightonfreeman8059
@creightonfreeman8059 Жыл бұрын
There was a lot of hype about aluminum air batteries about 15 years ago but there has been no commercialization of them due to problems with the anodes and reaction product buildup. We'll see if the can actually bring these Al ion batteries to market.
@teknosql4740
@teknosql4740 8 ай бұрын
This is not al-air, actualy this is alcl ion battery
@Abrakadabra9to5
@Abrakadabra9to5 Жыл бұрын
I wonder why this university experiment seems to be covered when Graphene Manufacturing Group is preparing production ready batteries in couple if years
@alexfunk2047
@alexfunk2047 4 ай бұрын
As an investor, I am always concerned that I may be betting on the wrong horse in this race. But it seems to me that GMGMF is in a better position to pivot toward any chemistry involving aluminum than most others.
@SolAce-nw2hf
@SolAce-nw2hf Жыл бұрын
Looks like the game is just getting started. May the best batteries win.
@stevenperry9762
@stevenperry9762 Жыл бұрын
It appears the marketplace has driven some of the biggest brains into this field. Good for us. Thanks, Sam.
@electricviking
@electricviking Жыл бұрын
My pleasure!
@Friedbrain11
@Friedbrain11 Жыл бұрын
Don't you love people that can't pronounce aluminum correctly:) A British citizen called this metal aluminum which is the proper name, but a couple of scammers(British also) tried to take credit for it by changing the name to "aluminium". It didn't work, but I have found that the British don't even know this tidbit about their own discovery of this metal. Strange. Still the battery tech seems promising.
@kennybob3096
@kennybob3096 Жыл бұрын
This is a game changer
@jb5music
@jb5music 9 ай бұрын
Do they burst into flames if you drill them with a drill? Do they have a liquid electrolyte? Are they liquid cooled?
@DavidSmith-dm8ew
@DavidSmith-dm8ew 11 ай бұрын
What happens when the cell gets damaged? Explosion like li-ion, Na-ion or Lifep04?
@stevetodd7383
@stevetodd7383 Жыл бұрын
10C does NOT mean 10 Celsius. It’s a measure of the charge rate compared to capacity. 10C means that it can charge at 10 times its nominal capacity (e.g. a 1Ah cell can charge at 10 amps)
@bonniechapman1212
@bonniechapman1212 10 ай бұрын
aluminum plus hydrogen from fraunhoffer paste might be interesting
@chrisfrandsen
@chrisfrandsen Жыл бұрын
G lad to see the age of batteries has finally arrived! 40 years ago I lost money investing in my first battery company then I lost money in A123 when they went bankrupt and China bought their IP:-) Then I lost money in a heavy metals mining operation in Nevada which couldn’t get its environmental act together. That same property is back alive today with government subsidies. I guess I was just too far ahead of the curve:-(
@davelawson2564
@davelawson2564 Жыл бұрын
heavy metals mining in USA is not cost competitive compared to in china and africa (where chinese co's operate) . That is why it was dumb idea to invest w/o subsidies or environmental clearance (look at the canada US oil pipeline stuck )
@chrisfrandsen
@chrisfrandsen Жыл бұрын
@@davelawson2564 I agree from an economic point of view but I was looking at it as a national security perspective. I couldn’t believe we would not subsidize these technologies. But back in those days we were shipping all of our manufacturing off shore to China. I guess now we have finally awaken.
@linuxxr
@linuxxr Жыл бұрын
combined with a static generator an there you have it!!
@sonofamortician
@sonofamortician Жыл бұрын
My chemistry is nowhere near good enough to really follow the discussion with underdtanding, but recharge amounts and capacity over time sounds good, but my question with this exotic substance is how abundant it is, is it possible to source in quantity in an environmentally friendly way, and is it economical, can it be recycled?
@anisotropicplus
@anisotropicplus Жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@mateo1125
@mateo1125 Жыл бұрын
If it turns out to be the same price as LFP batteries, but lasts 50 years instead of 8, that will solve the battery problem.
@grahamoldfield3871
@grahamoldfield3871 Жыл бұрын
With exiting new CATL batteries having a life of 3,000 cycles till they get to 75% and much cheaper than last years battery these would last 50 years in an EV. . Then you use them energy storage rather than recycle them repurpose them .Aluminium batteries may be better suited to energy storage on a large scale depending on cost and temperature affect to charging rate and expansion and contraction during cycles .
@SomeTechGuy666
@SomeTechGuy666 Жыл бұрын
"The specific energies of the Al/X-PVMPT cells, taking into account the masses of active materials in electrodes and electrolytes, reach up to 30 W h kg1" Really low energy density.
@christophercook7097
@christophercook7097 Жыл бұрын
A thermite battery?
@vanessabryan786
@vanessabryan786 Жыл бұрын
Don Saddaway has been working on Al Sulphur chemistry … even cheaper and more possibilities🤷🏻
@Stevebarker66
@Stevebarker66 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating developments, but we have to remember that industry is sustained my manufacturing products with planned obsolescence. Here in the UK the average age of car on the road is 8.4 years - the oldest it has ever been. We now have over 10 million cars built in or before 2008 and altbough EV sales are growing, overall car sales are now in decline. If people keep cars for longer, that has a negative effect on mamufacturing output and therefore industrial growth overall. You didn't really think the carrots & sticks emplyed to push EV sales were because of the environment, did you? Bookmark this development - its likely one more promising technology that will be patented and sat on because industry needs us to keep buying new cars and cars with batteries that last forever (or even a very ling time) are simply not good for business...
@Bob.W.
@Bob.W. Жыл бұрын
I would think that thermal storage systems would last longer than chemical ones. Interesting research though.
@briansaunders4745
@briansaunders4745 Жыл бұрын
Lots of activity and investment in the Salton Sea to recover Lithium, is this a mistake? Sounds like the amount of recovery is significant. Does anyone know if the Laguna Salada has the same chemical elements available as the Salton Sea?
@andrewsaint6581
@andrewsaint6581 Жыл бұрын
Great tech developments. Battery research is really taking off. ICE has run it's course. Clogged DPF's, stolen catalytic-converters and pig p1ss systems all add more complexity, more cost, reduced reliability and all for minimal benefit.
@nickwhite-zz8vf
@nickwhite-zz8vf Жыл бұрын
10c is fully charged in 6 min , very impressive
@tonyrock5313
@tonyrock5313 Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for Uranium U238 bartteries. That would be a game changer😅
@KimoPollock
@KimoPollock Жыл бұрын
Anyone who has the misfortune of having aluminum household wiring will probably tell you this is a bad idea.
@zemo2332
@zemo2332 Жыл бұрын
Game over mate !!!!!😂
@richardhardaker2212
@richardhardaker2212 Жыл бұрын
There are bound to be many “breakthroughs” over the next few years, most of which will die for whatever reason. Perhaps in 5-10 years there will be an accepted best solution and thereafter incremental improvements will follow. In the meantime I think it is interesting to learn about these developments if only for satisfying curiosity.
@vanessabryan786
@vanessabryan786 Жыл бұрын
The none Lithium battery breakthrough rate is likely to be somewhat more exponential than the Lithium one. The one issue is with who has been doing the research and has been working on actual production research. 80% is being done in China . The US despite sitting on the worlds largest known Na reserves is still production focused on Li 🤦🏻‍♂️ technology’s.
@RWBHere
@RWBHere Жыл бұрын
In 'anions' the 'i' is long, from 'an-ions'.
@TheInvisibleCar
@TheInvisibleCar 7 ай бұрын
I am curious as to where along the curve The Viking King thinks Australia's Graphene Manufacturing Group (GMG) is in relation to the technologies discussed here? Are they more or less on the mark as one and the same, or is this unnamed research group and these German discoveries or creations and such the sort of things that will exceed or supplant GMG's efforts? So, are these things that will undermine and compete with GMG or conversely, be the sorts of technological advancements that world or could benefit GMG? (Or is GMG itself largely what is being focused on here, in which case it is all one and the same?) (A little repetitive there, but I think that should get across the gist of the basically three pronged question I am asking here.)
@keangwooichoo6138
@keangwooichoo6138 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@Klargus
@Klargus Жыл бұрын
This is another wonderful technology that will not be developed because no one would simply bother
@dishanbassin-bs5lj
@dishanbassin-bs5lj Жыл бұрын
Does the batteries have heat run off ?
@ianwhisson8064
@ianwhisson8064 Жыл бұрын
A lot of oil and other money floating around just waiting to hoover up many exciting technologies and ... close them down. Its what happened to continuous titanium production .. American defence contractors bought British Titanium Oxide patents around 2000. But we can always hope for a brighter future.
@tobberfutooagain2628
@tobberfutooagain2628 Жыл бұрын
The germans? Did zey make you zign ze paperz?
@intellectualraven4411
@intellectualraven4411 Жыл бұрын
Oh gawd its game over😂
@MrGMawson2438
@MrGMawson2438 Жыл бұрын
Evening mate
@PelicanIslandLabs
@PelicanIslandLabs Жыл бұрын
The good news is that someday (many years from now) one of these 'vapor-ware' announcements will actually be viable.
@hadtobe4502
@hadtobe4502 Жыл бұрын
Another day, another battery.
@daviddunmore8415
@daviddunmore8415 Жыл бұрын
How might this compare with Sodium ion batteries?
@teknosql4740
@teknosql4740 8 ай бұрын
According to the number this is superior than na ion, but it only on paper
@mmast3180
@mmast3180 Жыл бұрын
Cool stuff pun intented but this is why i hate lab results 10 celcius is not a real tests try 35 or 45 degrees celcius youd have to remove battery pack to recharge which leads to all kinds of logistical nightmares not to mention costs go up dramatically - Keep up the good work love your stuff after reading another post what temperature did they actually charge it at if not ambient road temp ie 110+ then results are not worth noting for vechicles but for a controlled environment maybe theres that added energy drain at keeping temp low
@robertkirchner7981
@robertkirchner7981 Жыл бұрын
And it can have even higher density if you remove the second "i" from Aluminium.
@Mr31Vince
@Mr31Vince Жыл бұрын
Aluminum is the American and Canadian spelling for the silver-white metallic element (number 13 on the periodic table) abundant in the earth's crust. Aluminium is the preferred spelling outside North America. Neither term is superior to the other, and both are etymologically and logically justifiable.
@guygordon2780
@guygordon2780 Жыл бұрын
But 'i' is the lightest letter in the language, as well as being one of the most common vowels in the plant's crust.
@Islamisthecultofsin
@Islamisthecultofsin Жыл бұрын
@@Mr31Vince The person who discovered Aluminum named it "Aluminum" not "Aluminium". It even set off my spelling checker!
@Mr31Vince
@Mr31Vince Жыл бұрын
@@Islamisthecultofsin Hans Christian Oersted discovered aluminium in 1825 in Copenhagen, Denmark (which is not in the US or Canada), the eminent German chemist Friedrich Wöhler is generally regarded as the first to secure a pure sample of the element by chemical reduction in 1827 (again not American or Canadian). Your spell checker is set to English US.
@Islamisthecultofsin
@Islamisthecultofsin Жыл бұрын
@@Mr31Vince Google brought this too me but I can't find it on the website that it got it from. So I guess it's been removed. "When Sir Humphry Davy identified the stuff in 1809 he called it alumium after its kinship to potash alum. That word soon became aluminum. Then, to get a Latin-sounding word, the English put in an extra letter I. They've called it aluMINium ever since."
@LJ-jq8og
@LJ-jq8og Жыл бұрын
SAM... just change your channel to the "Battery Channel"". AM BURNED OUT 🔥ON BATTERY STORIES......
@guygordon2780
@guygordon2780 Жыл бұрын
You take your news when you get it. Besides, it's not like you can't skip a video after reading the title, is it?
@LJ-jq8og
@LJ-jq8og Жыл бұрын
@@guygordon2780 Obviously, but you are missing the entire point, I have been SUBd to Sam since the beginning, I donated a significant amount of money for his wife, and I am glad I did... BUT the coverage of "alleged battery break-through" and the constant reporting on them makes me consider UN-subscribing as it is freaking endless BULLSHIT... Perhaps SAM should or could just do a once a month battery report.... So if Sam wants to lose subscribers that is his call... OBVIOUSLY many others feel the same way and have expressed it.... And many have not notwithstanding feeling the same way.. Get it ⁉😊
@danielcarroll3358
@danielcarroll3358 Жыл бұрын
I have until 2030 to get the 30% tax credit for a home battery added to my solar. I can wait for whatever technology comes down the pike and proves itself, but interesting.
@ok_AI_
@ok_AI_ Жыл бұрын
What's the energy density in the unit Wh/kg?
@teknosql4740
@teknosql4740 8 ай бұрын
They GMG claim their state of the art alcl ion battery have 300Wh/kg and power density 9kw/kg
@JuanGonzales-or6pu
@JuanGonzales-or6pu 2 ай бұрын
Failed to mention that these aluminum batteries are Primary Batteries, Not Secondary batteries = Not Rechargeable
@kellyeye7224
@kellyeye7224 Жыл бұрын
This is starting to get like a "Chicken Little" situation - the 'next best thing is just about to be released' - but I've not seen or come across a SINGLE example in the real world.
@man_at_the_end_of_time
@man_at_the_end_of_time Жыл бұрын
How subject is this battery to temperature extremes?
@eagle49624
@eagle49624 Жыл бұрын
Bingo! However, technology needed to maintain the batterys' temperature constraints is commonplace.
@ilovesugarbun
@ilovesugarbun Жыл бұрын
The ultimate battery is nuclear powered battery.
@mikeavison5383
@mikeavison5383 Жыл бұрын
"a definite possible contender" 😂
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