NEW Equipment for the Business! Brings Me Joy! Plus a whole lot More

[@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans]

FIRE STARTER AVAILABLE HERE🔥 www.outdoorswiththemorgans.com/shop

[@bryanwillis5149]

Good morning Mike from Missouri. Here in Missouri we say does. You are in Pa. You call them what you want. We know what you are talking about. Enjoy your videos.

[@shannonphillips3869]

@outdoorsWithTheMorgans Call the post office, and they can tell you exactly what address the firestarter was delivered.

[@matteberry58]

I agree with you on the drones. Someone is lying to our face, again.

[@thewayidoit8895]

Hey Mike, send me my fire starter! I never got it. Well, honestly, I never ordered it. Best of luck to Ya'll. Merry Christmas.

[@thewayidoit8895]

​@@bryanwillis5149does? Like he does well with the fire starter product? Or dooos, as in Do a deer, a female deer!

[@billk8780]

From Merriam-Webster, in short you are all correct. doe 1 of 2 noun dō plural does or doe : the adult female of various mammals (such as a deer, rabbit, or kangaroo) of which the male is called buck

[@jimsweeney25]

Drives me crazy when people review a product one star because it was damage in shipping or not received. They're not reviewing the product, they're reviewing the delivery!

[@erikowren7894]

A lot of people have a low IQ. Over 10% are below 87. People like that can’t even join the military. It’s sad but true. 😢

[@coypatton3160]

WhilevI agree that what you describe is a review of the shipping and packaging and delivery, it was the seller that did the packaging and selected the carrier(s). It is also a portion of the total purchase experience. Also if product is damaged, how can you review the item?

[@SteelheadTed]

Yup, drives me nuts too.

[@44jonest]

Mike, I have watched your channel since inception and “in my opinion” (one of your favorite phrases!), you have become so comfortable in front of the camera…it’s like having a friend , having a fireside conversation. You and your family represent the next door neighbors I wish I had.

[@billyladner3062]

My dad was born in 1930 in south Mississippi and this was before electricity or butane delivery. He said you had to have wood cut almost precisely to burn in the cooking stove. My grandma and great grandma knew what size of wood it took to cook their meals. There was never a break from this very physical chore. So much for the good ol days. Have fun and stay safe!

[@frankdrahos8569]

I agree with you wholeheartedly about the wood heat! I love seeing the full firewood shed. Was just commenting to my wife how much I love seeing ours like that. Like money in the bank!

[@straydawg461]

I laughed when Mike said "if you have friends that don't like wood heat, you need better friends"

[@jimfang2090]

Hey Mike, mechanic here, don't know if you're doing this, but when you thaw a lock or release, lubricate it with something like 3in1 oil. I do that every year around thanksgiving. The film of oil will usually prevent condensation. If it has a key lock , lubricate 2 or 3 times, inserting key and locking then unlocking a couple of times

[@georgecrawford3051]

On Henry Ford Senior's fireplace mantle was the inscription " CUT YOUR OWN FIREWOOD, IT WILL WARM YOU TWICE". I always thought that a good cliché, since I grew up with wood being the only source of heat and cooking in the Valley. Back in those days it was all cut by hand, right from falling the trees to cutting the cord wood. That saying holds true today, even though you have logs brought to you, chain saws, log splitters, and other power equipment, it's still a lot of work.

[@NSResponder]

There was a popular song in the 1940s with a line: "Mares eat oats, and does eat oats, and little lambs eat ivy". A bit before your time, but your older relatives might remember it.

[@matthewdoran3561]

Getting wood from the wood shed has got to be the most satisfying feeling. Knowing it’s good old fashioned hard work that will warm you up! 😊

[@davids4754]

They say wood warms you 3 times. When you cut it, split it, and burn it!!

[@edhackett7961]

Firewood is my hobby. I burn 3-4 cords yearly, I give it away, cook with it in the outdoor fire pit. I have a good supply of trees that are on the ground. Dead Oak and I'm saying 10 years on the ground burns the longest and hottest. The bark falls off and the first 1 inch off rot falls off leaving perfect! Hard dry wood. I also buy a truck load if I get lazy. Truck load off wood say 17-22 feet long is between $750 and $850 a truck load. Get about 8 cords. You and family be safe. Merry Christmas too.

[@richardevans7457]

Mike, We live in rural Indiana and are surrounded by corn and bean fields. Last summer, I heard a whizzing sound I had never heard so I walked out to see what it was. There was the largest drone I had ever seen hovering at the edge of my property over the corn. This thing was huge probably 12-15 ft in diameter. It was there about 10 minutes and I thought is was videoing my shooting range or something. Needless to say I was nervous, puzzled and a little scared at the same time. It finally took off. It was maybe 20 foot high while hovering. Later on in the same day it was back buzzing over the corn spraying. Down the road was a couple of guys with a big flatbed trailer with a large tank like your IBC totes but bigger on the front of the trailer. The drone would land on the trailer and the guys would fill it up with pesticides or whatever. Then it would go back and start spraying, The drone had like 2, 50 gal tanks on it which is a lot of weight. It was very precise in its movements over the field probably used GPS. I guess the days of airplane crop dusting are gone now. If the drones over the east coast are anything like the one I saw, our enemies could easily attach a dirty bomb and wipe out our infrastructure with an electromagnetic pulse. The government better come clean or figure out what is happening before we have another Pearl Harbor.

[@dougconllin3006]

Good comment, scary thought 😮

[@coypatton3160]

China Joe-remember a few months back the balloons?

[@bluegrallis]

About 30 years ago, I drove a 1979 F150 4x4 with a home made heavy steel tube front bumper. The whole truck was a bit rough looking, but did what I needed at the time. Anytime I drove it, I noticed people noticed it , and gave me plenty of space. I often had the go ahead wave at 4 way Stops, that never happened when driving a car that had full coverage insurance.

[@wolfpack4128]

You know it's going to be a good day when it starts with a Sheetz run. Especially when you have a good companion riding shotgun.

[@dougdorn9226]

“Look for additional friends “ hahahahaha! Love it…

[@rs2024-s4u]

Having been in labeling on a large scale before retiring, I would suggest you get quote from bag companies that can do/specialize in flexographic printing directly onto bag which allows for full coverage of entire bag which gives you greater graphic design options for your products, and will be cost effictive while producing unique attractive packaging for your product line eliminating the labels and costs associated with the application of labels to your bags. Ray

[@twilamoore8879]

2 things. I grew up in a woodstove house. no other heater. I believe the difference in heat, is wood stove is constant heat. forced heating is on and off. It gets cool before it kicks on. And also the twisty ties. More important is the twisty ties, long term you will be saving insurance on wrist damage from the constant twisting motion. you will probably have it paid for quicker than you think.

[@JustAFlyover]

In mass production, seconds matter. Congratulations on your new machine.

[@davidmoran1422]

Been heating with wood for 45 years in northern Michigan. Couldn’t agree more.

[@JosephForgione]

What I like best about today’s video is the Christmas themed music. I find it so appropriate for the season. Another reason why I admire your channel.

[@coypatton3160]

I have used pallets to stack wood on. When I cleared a layer if multiple layers deep, I always picked them up and leaned them up out of the way. But you need to realize that most pallets are built for a 1x usage. There are some exceptions but mostly 1x use.

[@thomasstrout1738]

Good morning from Farmington, NH. 16 degrees here this morning. Nothing beats wood heat but my radiant floor is a good second!

[@jamescarpentercountryliving]

Mike, The drone situation smells like trouble to me. Only some people know about the activity taking place in space with extraterrestrials. However, after years of investigating UFOs, I have a heightened awareness. The Germans approached our government in the early 1950s, and we decided to work with them moving forward. The Germans were in contact with aliens while the war was in process, which enhanced their development. They had the first jets, missiles, rockets, and the bell, the first time machine, and it worked. After the war, our government in 1947 sent a fleet of ships to Antarctica. The Germans had an underground base there. To our surprise, the Germans popped out of the water in saucers with iron crosses and swastikas on them. They were using advanced weapon systems and shot down planes and sank ships. Admiral Byrd was in charge, and the operation was called Project High Jump. He left the area before he lost the entire fleet. He reported the technology they were using to the President. The joint venture between the Germans and Americans is a covert operation known as the Secret Space Program. A government branch oversees the operation, and the President is not privileged to any information. Much of our taxation goes to the Black Budget, which supports the program. All this information has been suppressed from the people on the planet. We have technology that can give us free energy and medical beds. However, if we were given the technology, it would cause havoc. Much money is being made on energy and pharmasuitables From my perspective, here is what is going on: The new world order can not allow the President to take office. Trump will expose all the corruption, and many people will fall. The truth about the activity in space will be known, and people will not like what they hear because of the deception. The drones are ours, and they are being used to expose the public to UFOs. The new world order is staging a fake alien invasion and plans to use it to initiate martial law. Thus preventing President Trump from taking office. It sounds a bit out there, but it's the best I can come up with. Let me know what you think of my view. James Carpenter, Country Living

[@straydawg461]

NWO clowns, deep state players and media supporting them, need to go out of business for good!

[@bryanbest5113]

Drones. No closed season, no bag limit. Pressure cook at high, very chewy.

[@2naturesownplace]

@Mike a lil Ole Farmer using new tech tip for you and readers. I use that same heat gun on really cold days. To send hot air thru my oldest diesel tractor. This acting like glow plugs. Dries out and warms the air and surface of the cylinders and valves. That old Betsy starts so much better now!

[@JasperFromMS]

It's always amazing for a southerner to see snow that just blows away. We never get that.

[@johnmastin7620]

I drove tractor trailer before I retired. When I was in my tractor trailer and the 4 wheelers had to look up at me,, the sane people would generally not cut you off and keep their distance. So what I’m saying Mike is that it is the height of the vehicle that detours them. I know from experience because I used to drive 130,000 miles a year.

[@SouthernColoradoWildlife]

Mike, you do a great job pumping videos out. Glad that you enjoy your life!

[@TheChief3102]

Good Sunday morning Morgan’s! Here in NJ a they tell you not to worry, the drones pose no credible threat. Then they issue guidance to first responders to not approach a downed drone, they want a perimeter set up, call hazmat and the bomb squad, and the FBI. I think they are clueless.

[@Meister1551]

Mike, I’m a city boy who lives in Los Angeles we don’t have a need for wood heat. We use a little gas’s heat but our weather doesn’t get to freezing very often.

[@georgefarning69]

Good Sunday morning, Morgan's and fans! Thanks for the video, Mike! Everyone enjoy your Sunday.

[@doughershberger4285]

I’ll say one thing that freezes up, the tailgate on the wife’s 2024 F350 King Ranch 23:14 23:16 Super duty with the Diamondback bed cover. I use a couple gallons of hot water and after I get it open I dry the gate & seal with 23:43 a towel then I’m good to go till the next time lol. I’ll say one thing, that thing is weather tight. Never had a drop of water in there.

[@doughershberger4285]

By the way you can use that new machine to seal up your bread after making a samich! 😂

[@Duncangonefishin]

Good morning y'all !!! Have a great Sunday, and hello from British Columbia

[@WilliamSelig-b9n]

I have used firestarter for for two years. It is great. Save time great.

[@peteatthefarm4459]

Good Morning Mike, it's a cold one.... enjoy your day.. Pete 🇨🇦

[@davidmorse8432]

Hi Pete, Warm with rain here. Currently 63° F going up to 75 this afternoon. Have a day!

[@badcat4707]

Good morning Pete

[@Duncangonefishin]

Morning Pete! 1.4 C here, it warmed up

[@peteatthefarm4459]

​@@davidmorse8432Morning David, we will be happy if we break 30f as a high... enjoy your Sunday

[@peteatthefarm4459]

​@badcat4707 Morning BadCat, got the fire on today... enjoy your day....

[@davidhoffman1570]

Good morning Mike, I am surprised that you have not painted one of your tokes shiny black with. Rustolem paint. Then you could take this loaded tote and stand it just outside your building where you are heating with wood. Melissa could hang seasonal decorations (wreat, pine cones, etc) on it to blend it in as decoration as well as a log rack.

[@seandever2289]

I think it's awesome you are hunting with Eva! I can't wait for my granddaughter and grandson to get old enough. Eli is 5 and Evie is 2

[@RandyCarter-b5g]

We actually refuse to associate with anyone that doesn’t burn wood!!! 😁 Your fire starter is an amazing product. This time of year I let fires burn out overnight so am using a handful in each of 2 stoves almost every morning. I literally have only 2 minutes or less starting a fire and within 10 minutes stoves are rocking..🔥🔥

[@frijoli9579]

100% they know where they are coming from. 100% twisty tie machine coolness!

[@badcat4707]

.Good morning to Hunter 👋👋😸and family and friends , Happy peaceful Sunday everyone 🙏🙏😸😺

[@davidmorse8432]

@@badcat4707 Hi BadCat! 😸

[@R_Wyatt545]

I actually asked my wife the other day if the birds on our feeder were Titmouses or Titmice? She looked at me, laughed and asked if that was truly taking up space in my head 😂. Those same folks would lose their mind here in north MS 😂 PS- I think Titmouses…

[@donaldanderson4139]

Mike,why is it that you don’t burn your hardwood slabs in your stove or elsewhere? Seems a shame to just trash it.

[@dbmurray0924]

I am a driver behavior expert. One of the things I do when someone tailgates me. Try turning your hazard lights on for a couple of flashes. Most of the time the other vehicle will back off. If they don’t back off then it is an aggressive driver. Red White and Blue flashing eyes stimulates the eyes. So when someone is texting and driving behind you, when the lights go on the driver of the other vehicle will look up and back off/

[@straydawg461]

I'm going to try the hazard lights therory on tailgaters, taking I-80 Westbound for a couple states next week, I'm sure someone will necessitate the hazard lights use.

[@Outdoorsy368]

Heating with wood actually warms 3 times 1-cutting,2-splitting,3-burning. Radiant heat warms the bones.

[@dirtbikeheaven1129]

Don’t forget stacking.

[@straydawg461]

Maybe 5...cutting, splitting, stacking/storing, fetching, burning. Rinse, repeat

[@harrykeel8557]

Thomas is the same way when it comes to wearing a coat. Especially when it's cold outside.

[@caniacstevehenderson7115]

Good investment the twisty tie machine is 😮

[@johnm.robertssr.2953]

We live pretty rural and if no one could tell me what's flying over my property one of them would have a crash landing if you know what I mean.

[@JustAFlyover]

I like the twisty tie demo!

[@i.r.wayright1457]

Mike, I had a 1985 Honda CRX HF (High Fuel-economy 54 mpg.) . 1750 pounds empty, 5 speed, would do 70 at the top end of 2nd gear, it was geared high for better mileage. Anyway, that thing attracted tailgaters like I have never experienced before. Same thing happened later with my 92 Civic VX. I came to the conclusion that some people subconsciously assume every vehicle they follow is a full sized sedan or SUV. Then, when they are behind a small compact, they set distance based on a sight picture of a larger vehicle. That makes them follow twice as close as they should. But there are drivers who always tighten up the distance because you are in their way. I don't know if the drones are sniffing out dirty bombs but if they want to find some dirty bums, they should look in D.C.

[@domsileo1145]

Nice tool Mike…saves time, money and mostly your hands… burned wood my whole life, nothing beats a Wood fire of a cold winters night !

[@johnsadler8637]

Good morning from a chilly NCNC. Trying to rain here. I won’t be spending any time outdoors until that changes.

[@badcat4707]

Good morning John

[@davidmorse8432]

Hi John!

[@petermavus4131]

Who WOOD not like a roaring wood fire 🔥 on a cold 🥶 winter morning…it’s a primal thing gathering around it.Stay warm Morgan’s and Happy hunting.

[@Duncangonefishin]

I SEA what you did there !!!

[@joehaack7388]

Yes wood will warm you many times when you cut it when you split it when you stack it when you haul it into the house and when you throw it in the fireplace or the stove

[@ChadLusk-t8m]

Thanks Mike

[@jeffaltenderfer7840]

When the government says there is no concern ... you should be concerned

[@MarkAnderhalt]

Morning Morgans, I'm sure the rest of the family will appreciate the twisty tie machine, Processes can always be improved, time is money!

[@dougdow1287]

Thanks for bringing us along on the adventure, Mike!

[@rogerdawson-9434]

Good morning from Kentucky .

[@DANsTrucking_Outdoors]

The biggest savings in the tie machine and labels will be your guys hands. Smart investment.

[@JerryGarnett]

Variety is the spice of life. 🤙🏼🇺🇸

[@jeffschmoel2717]

They are probably ours. Testing them for gathering info for whatever.

[@DANDY1]

Does/doe!? The sound of music 1965- lol .memories! We use to sing that in grade school- boys would sing one part the girls would sing the other- it was called unity together! 😊

[@1947maco]

I agree with what you say with tail gaters ! If someone tail gates me trying to either push me to one side or just plain pushing me down the road I start hugging the centre line !! I find it makes it extra hard for them to see around me & they tend to give me more space in between......... Of course 8 outa 10 eventually pass any where they can solid centre line or not ....I just let them go !!

[@dmhipkins]

Wood heat is a lasting heat.

[@michaelc.3812]

Michael, here in Colorado we have a confluence of drivers from all over the country (and the world), and it make things even more difficult with different styles. But agreed: there are many drivers who are oblivious, and often drive, for example, 40 on a 65 MPH zone, or worse, park in the fast lane and make everyone pass on the right.

[@davids4754]

Brown truck!!!

[@2010sugg]

it is a diversion no airports have been shut down

[@Tdale85]

Good Sunday morning Mike and Melissa!

[@Dakota77d]

I have used your fire starter and I love it- Good stuff

[@robertcheslock9636]

Using my heat gun, I got too close to the plastic and melted it enough that I had to do a repair. Even though a battery powered unit it still generates heat to cause damage. That twist tie machine is awesome! Nothing is cheap but if it simplifies an operation, it is worth the investment. To you and yours, happy holidays!

[@TheDishyGirl]

For 20+ years our family relied on our two wood stoves for heating our 3,000 square foot home. To save money we would buy it by the core which was only quartered. Therefore, we did all the splitting. No fancy splitter. Just an ax and a wedge. I love the feel of a real fire. But now that hubby is in his 80's and I'm in my 70's, our days of hauling, splitting, making our own kindling (no Morgan's Fire Starter in those days 😊) are done. We are so grateful for the modern convenience of central heating and cooling as well as a gas fireplace. Mike, does your father-in-law still heat with wood?

[@davidmorse8432]

Hello! 😊 People are getting packages stolen from their points of delivery pretty regular now. James might have been a victim of this. A wildlife camera might help identify these perpetrators.

[@mitchellchambers4852]

Morning

[@badcat4707]

Good morning David

[@stephendobie5013]

Good morning David

[@davidmorse8432]

@stephendobie5013 Hi Steve, How are things in Calgary?

[@stephendobie5013]

@davidmorse8432 very well, thanks for asking. Time for a little drive to look for some Elk herds around Kananaskis before mass today.... Enough snow to make the elk easy to find. How are you? Getting ready for Christmas?

[@timwilcoxsr2712]

I heard it will be a felony if anyone takes those drones out of the air. Well, I for 1 will take them out IF they are over my property. Then we'd know who is behind it.

[@TINMANOUTCAST]

A Balloon crippled this administration before so I’m not surprised by drones

[@hamilde]

I have questions about the drones. If they were being sent by some enemy for some nefarious reason, wouldn't they shut the freaking bright flashing lights off?

[@richprich]

I have seen the flying objects coming out of the ocean with very bright white light

[@matteberry58]

I agree with your take on the mystdrone

[@wm3138]

Maybe set up a burn barrel in the wood yard to warm yourself while you’re working?

[@PBandJDIY]

KISS. WD-40 in locks outside. WD stands for Water Displacement. I did ALL the locks in a prison! WD-40 was the best results out of 20 or more i tried. *your lock needs to be dry for best results. In our big locks we used SlipIt mechanical. If you have metal on metal sliding, that stuff is the best! Probably work good on all your sliding parts on the sawmill.

[@sharkrivermachine]

I live at the Jersey Shore and have seen the drones. Some sightings are small aircraft but I have definitely identified large drones. I agree that the origin of them is known and don't know why they are keeping it from us. A bit unsettling for sure.

[@endonutz]

I like the way your vids bring you along for the ride, don’t change a thing…..been watching every vid since before the wood shed being built….cheers from Idaho

[@coypatton3160]

I like the blowing snow off the vehicles. Here in the southern mid west our snow (what little we get) is always wet and would never blow off that easy

[@wwaldron3]

Thanks for providing more fire starter. I absolutely use it as Christmas gifts and my friends love it!!! Love the comment “if your friends don’t burn firewood then maybe you should find new friends”

[@straydawg461]

I too got a good chuckle when Mike said that! Classic burn....yes pun intended

[@maxhurst8904]

Mike, personal delivery experiences. Guess it is this time of year and the expanding purchases online. Several of our deliveries, somewhat remote in our area, have been delivered by what I suspect are using newly hired part-time delivery folks driving rental trucks. Our mail box with street number is across the road from our driveway and we own the acreage across the street with shop, barn and other structures with matching fencing from our house. Never know where a lost package is until we look at all structures, one still missing from yesterday. Just part of life today. Watched your channel for years and no doubt you and family will have the issue corrected immediately and hopefully the customer will repost saying so. Merry Christmas to all y'all.

[@johnseavey6622]

Where I live in Maine fedx is horrible I have lost orders more than once. One order of my $650 I phone was left hanging hanging on my mail box post in a clear plastic bag. My house has a 700 foot long driveway that you can't see my house from the road. As luck would have I happened to leave and saw it before it was stolen like other orders were. Fedx tells you to go pound sand they could care less. I always get my order when the usps delivers to me, they bring it to my door.

[@ScottfromNB]

I had a delivery, delivered in a garbage bag, set on top of my garbage box at the end of my long driveway, on garbage day. Lucky I got there first.

[@josephhartman8073]

Yes, nothing like wood heat I agree. Espc. as one gets more years under the belt. Wood heat is good medicine for achy joints !!!

[@bhaskarparam9711]

Thanks for explaining the firewood benefits for the heating house

[@coypatton3160]

Mike I’m with you on Doe. It has always a Doe or XDoe or some Doe. I’ve never in my 63 years heard Does.

[@matthewsims359]

this is why i havent watched any news for about 6 or 7 years. i had no idea about the drone thing. not watching the news may or may not be a good thing. i just do my thing and try not to figure out what the government/fake news tells us is true or false. hoping Eva gets back in time for another hunt. good luck Eva

[@HallnoutMhall]

Good morning Morgans and friends. Have a day Eva.

[@badcat4707]

Good morning friend 🙏😸

[@HallnoutMhall]

​@@badcat4707good morning friend. Hope you have a great day. Wet one here. 🐈 👍 🙏

[@davidmorse8432]

Hi Michael! 👍

[@johnsadler8637]

@@HallnoutMhall hi guys!

[@HallnoutMhall]

​@@davidmorse8432 good morning David.

[@slamsshenanigans2296]

You do you Mike! I think different dialects are awesome and I love it! I love southern accents and different words and sayings- like “fit on” for a crescent wrench” “yard it” for pull it etc I think it’s great Stick with doe and mum 😊

[@DonDegidio]

Hi Mike, When we were using our fireplace in the basement of our split level house, it would provide heat up into our living room. I was the one always cleaning the ashes and when I stopped, the fireplace stopped being used. I'm surprised seeing all the video of those drones, has anyone used binoculars to get a better look or even some night-vision goggles. Hope Eva can get a buck before rifle season ends. Everyone there stay safe.

[@johnkanaly1242]

👍👏 interesting video I like it😊

[@CharlesJohnson-mq2tr]

Being retired in Texas, I have no where to go and all day to get there. Stay safe.

[@freepatriot6313]

Those drones and the same scenario here in Texas....I guarantee would be taken down. 300 win mag would be my choice. At least one would, depending on what was discovered...

[@bubbakemp5817]

Good morning from Orangefield, Texas! It's 66 degrees here this morning! Under this administration, I'm not surprised that they are baffled about the drone situation! Actually, they probably know but are just continuing to lie, like they normally do! If this was happening down here where I'm from, those drones would be shot out of the sky! 😂😂😂

[@johnkirby6547]

Good morning Mike, the twist tie machine is a good long-term investment same with the bags. My usps is 1 out of 20 for losing something. I also didn't know dewalt made a heat gun..

[@donaldmiller4366]

Don't trust until trust is earned. Depending on the government for information is hopeless. Merry Christmas Mike and family.

[@sampickens1998]

Hello Mike, my hobby is RC airplanes. Just to fly them I have to be registered with the FAA. It's like insurance and one of the rules in place is you are not allowed to fly over residential areas. If one gov identity that should know is the FAA.

[@kevinhall2266]

The twisty tie machine is ergonomic friendly too. It’ll save your wrist from seizing up someday. You’ll find other things that’ll make your process more efficient and increase your profit margin as you plug along.