NEW Flux Defense Raider 365: An IWB Concealable SIG P365 Chassis

[@Wolf_Avery]

I always appreciate James trying to get a date and price even though it never happens.

[@TFBTVShowTime]

noice

[@rvroutdoors2131]

It’s a Flux. The date is never for us non-guntuber peasants

[@Murky_Fitness]

​@@rvroutdoors2131 you have to be awake for the drop. I got the flux raider first drop.

[@Bear77793]

A product I will never find in stock.

[@diet_dr.demoncore]

how about in brace?

[@vingtorodinson1967]

they cant even do that with the p320 raider 😂😂@@diet_dr.demoncore

[@ArgosySpecOps]

​@diet_dr.demoncore you beat me to it!😂

[@pdxmarine1430]

Just gotta pay attention to the drops...and it seems they will be pumping these out faster than the OG Raiders. Though it looks like the 365 is going to make my 320 useless once again. My P320 FCU finally found a use with the Raider, and now the 365 is unseating it again!

[@Grand.Kanyan]

A stock never in stock 😩

[@StrangerInAStrangeLand1999]

Will they produce more than 3 of these a year?

[@bobcatethan8919]

No

[@bentuttle9170]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... hahahahahahahaha. ha. haha. ha. no.

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

yesn't

[@jonn8163]

Nope

[@wheelguns4wheelmen802]

James and his slim 5.11s are what inspire me to hit the gym up

[@millernator1987]

Gym up if you want but he's still gonna be out of your league.

[@dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073]

just eat more and your current pants will fit nice and tight.

[@zacharyyoung3834]

James/Hop and Crew's coverage is the best part of shot show even if there isn't anything I'm really looking forward to.

[@MoistSmok]

Have you seen palmetto states new stuff!? They’ve got some pretty sick concepts they’re taking votes for on their site

[@MadMagyar13]

@@MoistSmokfor real, they’re really getting creative. I voted for the MP7 clone

[@MoistSmok]

@@MadMagyar13 samee brother mp7, 570shot gun and new .22 dagger

[@insanitypepper1740]

Ah yes, the mythical Flux "Notify me when back in stock" Raider

[@morganestill]

Never once have I received an email from them. Been on the list for a long time. Years, in fact.

[@overtimealex69]

@@morganestillhey man! Not sure why you have not gotten the emails. We sent out two restocking newsletters last month before we did our restock.

[@morganestill]

@@overtimealex69Yeah, checked my spam folder and everything. I wonder if there’s any google fuckery going on there. Interestingly though, I happen to check the website randomly yesterday and happen to find them in stock and bought one!

[@gaberesendez6492]

that’s funny cuz i have 4 of em

[@morganestill]

@@overtimealex69 Looks like my reply disappeared… Yeah, I confirmed subscription, made sure it was marked as spam, all that stuff. Not sure what the issue is there. Weirdly, I ended up checking the Flux website randomly yesterday and found them in stock and placed an order.

[@natehall6120]

They can't make enough 320 units, now we can get in line for another piece of unobtainable greatness

[@overtimealex69]

Different process for these. The P320 raiders were hard to make because our mold broke twice. These P365 Raiders are machines from aluminum. Availability will always depend on how fast our vendors can produce them.

[@gaberesendez6492]

i have 5 of them including the OG with holster so def not that hard to get em

[@juliomaldonado4028]

​@@gaberesendez6492you have 5? No wonder why they are always out of stock

[@thecheesedip]

Fingers crossed for a competitive price point. For $900-1000 I can easily get a standalone PCC. I think I'd pay $600 for this if it came w the long barrel to boost fps. Anything more and I'll just go buy a new gun.

[@ST-zm3lm]

Few other companies simultaneously grab my interest and apathy like Flux.

[@tcuegonbear]

"It's definitely going to be quarter one?" "Uhhh... Yeah?" I'm not sure I've ever been less convinced by a statement in my life.

[@ysince95]

‘You lied to me in my own hotel room’… hahaha

[@762x69]

James is just too damn funny

[@mattg9971]

To be fair...the guys at this company lie to everyone including themselves

[@michaelcerick9999]

I love that James called them out on the release date. Here we are in April and it’s not even on their website.

[@wafflebunny123]

cant wait till someone makes a 3d print file since itll probably sell for $1200 and be out of stock all year

[@LeJohn-if3ff]

James is wild for calling my them out like that lmao

[@not-fishing4730]

I'm still waiting for the P320 Xten Flux. With a P365 I'd be looking for a shoulder holster.

[@Yapperinos]

That's next in line after the 365. Probably a year or 3 from now

[@Gl0ckb1te]

That would be perfect

[@MP-ky3hc]

A lot of people are still waiting for their P320 Raider 😂😭

[@immikeurnot]

@@MP-ky3hc Pretty sure they're waiting to order. I didn't have to wait long after I got mine ordered.

[@breckfreeride]

Yes

[@gavinfairbanks]

I just want them to bring the flux heavy back. The p320 xten in 10mm in this chassis would be the perfect camp/treking gun up here in Alaska.

[@kevinkelley4784]

Get a Glock model 40 and the Recover tactical stock/brace short money and rock solid. A game changer for this 70 year old deer hunter

[@AhHereWeGo]

I love my Raider..... So I will 100% be getting one of these eventually, along with a 10mm/45acp version when they release that

[@rvroutdoors2131]

Who did you have to give a reacharound to in order to get one?

[@AhHereWeGo]

@@rvroutdoors2131 I saw a thing from them that said restocks are always on the same day and time, every 3 weeks; Then missed one on a thursday at 0800 pacific, so I waited 3 weeks and started refreshing my browser at 0755 thursday morning

[@gavinfairbanks]

​@@rvroutdoors2131idk that it will help with your order but I volunteer.

[@weeman57777]

@@rvroutdoors2131They are in stock right now. The new x version.

[@starkparker16]

By now everybody's lied to James "Chiseled Chin" Reeves in his hotel room.

[@rvroutdoors2131]

They’ll say any to get his range panties off

[@NotHunterCooper]

Just when I was thinking of selling my p365, they pull me back in

[@jaredourada]

This will forever be known as "The Panty Raider"

[@Salamitommy-d5m]

So do you buy this as a whole firearm or is it a chassis that you just place your firearm in?

[@LVbibby]

Utterly fantastic! Good luck finding this in stock.

[@ef3345]

Way better than the 320. So pumped I don't have to buy that gun to get into a flux system.

[@Complicasiian]

Dude was not ready for that interview 💀

[@JosephDalrymple]

"Q1, in the next couple months." It's now the end of February. Next couple months from then is Q2 😂 "We just started production."

[@ProfVonW]

So do I have to engrave the FCU chassis to SBR it?

[@GldenRetriever]

no. You can engrave it other places.

[@Yapperinos]

You can, or you can engrave the slide. But if you want to change slides you'll have to engrave the new one. It might be OK to engrave this raider

[@pollock56th]

I didn't have to engrave a thing for my Glock 19 that I got a stamp for. AFT used my serial number for the stamp

[@GldenRetriever]

@@pollock56th That's literally not how it works for a form 1 lol.

[@pollock56th]

@@GldenRetriever yet I have a stamp and was told by the form processor over the phone and in writing so I guess it is how it is done.

[@Hal_Bennett]

I appreciate the form factor and ability to have a stocked weapon as a CCW, though I'm worried about the legality of actually doing so, even if they have a brace version.

[@rvroutdoors2131]

Don’t worry. You’ll never be able to get one anyway

[@stupidjaosn]

forget about the on-paper legality, a prosecutor's gonna turn you into an absolute villain for using something called "The Raider" in self defense

[@TheMindfulHomestead]

I understand this. Especially in states that bar loaded long guns from being carried in vehicles.

[@Justin-rq6kf]

Worried about what legal issue?

[@Justin-rq6kf]

​@@stupidjaosnA prosecutor will turn you into a villain for anything.

[@dmfc1777]

The coolest part about flux chassis is that they dont actually exist.

[@williambronson534]

The chance this hits markets in Q1 is as likely you can order the “ Flux Capacitor “ and fly my Delorian back in time to buy Apple and Microsoft stocks at launch.

[@wydrjc]

Looks more like a B&T usw for the p365 than it does a Flux brace.

[@Calqid]

And that is a good thing.

[@AlexanderOster]

I think that be great. I hope they offer a thread end to that barrel. Now I just need a optics ready slide.

[@Yapperinos]

Seems it's made to go with the 6" unthreaded barrel (which is covered by a shroud) or any normal size, threaded barrel + silencer. Also if you go with shroud there's a way to mount the optic to that

[@jacobivy2854]

I am still waiting on something to drop my XTen into.

[@rvroutdoors2131]

Woah relax. James is a married man

[@Yapperinos]

That's coming next. So one or three years

[@jacobivy2854]

@@rvroutdoors2131 But how married is he?

[@jacobivy2854]

@@Yapperinos so they keep saying.. Between that and their production not nearly keeping pace with demand makes it hard to love them.

[@bassfan71]

Dude that is so rad to be able to appendix carry that rig.

[@stevenpeters4625]

Ive been asking for this for two years so glad they finally made it.

[@TheGuyWhoAsked72]

Is that stock flimsy?

[@Kamryx]

Damn I have an FCU lying around that I haven’t known what to do with… and I’ve wanted a PCC/PDW…

[@andrewvachon1943]

I stopped waiting for the original raider to be in stock so I bought a MPX copperhead. Love the idea of the raider, and a micro pdw as a force multiplier put of my laptop case is a cool niche, but I am not going to pay gunbroker scalper prices or wait another two years.

[@jamesbridges7750]

They've made some big improvements to the copperhead with the 4.5 and reversion to the standard reciever, Shame it doesn't get more love.

[@Saltpork305]

Cool. Ever going to meet demand or update your older designs? Development is great but if we can't buy what you sell, it does us no good. I know I'm not the only one dealing with this. I have a glock 34 pdw that I would love to throw on a glock flux frame.

[@Yapperinos]

They did a lot more drops in 2023 than the past. Glock raiders are planned for later but not a priority, best thing for them is the B&T USW-G17

[@overtimealex69]

We are doing pretty decent on demand vs former years. Our mold for the Raider broke twice between 2021-2022 and we needed repairs and replacements that took the better part of a year to fix. Now we have a much more reliable mold so every restock we do typically lasts a week or so.

[@TexanApollyon]

If this became the norm for appendix carry, that would be awesome

[@saphirephenix56]

Looks freaking dope, but wtf is with “yo it’s out Q1, we’re going into production rn! But no launch date or price!” That sounds like either they’re lying about release window/production or they don’t want the cool factor at shot show to be overshadowed by a ridiculous price. I’m so freaking tired of “smaller=more money!!!”

[@Yapperinos]

It's more money because it's machined instead of injection molded.

[@overtimealex69]

We just barely got our production samples back from the machinist days before Shot Show. It’s not that we are hiding anything it’s just that we are still in the process of figuring it out. Still pumped we showed it off to people.

[@acx2035]

is this the PP-2000 at home?

[@MP-ky3hc]

I had to pay twice the MSRP of the P320 Raider on Flux's site just to get one since they never have it in stock, so I guess this will cost me $2k 🙁

[@HandSumtactical]

Does this come with a replacement slide ?? If not is there a variant that works with the x macro comp slide ??

[@reichMK23]

Will this support the 365XL Slide?

[@darkcircle899]

The game changer to me is that you can fit the whole thing in a holster. Love the idea if being able to on body conceal something with a stock.

[@kolideoskope]

I want to see more about that 6” barrel; is it going to be just sticking out the front of the slide under the cover or is there a longslide to match? Is it threaded?

[@lolk4530]

Will it fit in the holster with a magazine in the holder? Id be worried about the AFT deciding that it was a vertical grip and categorizing this as an AOW because of that if it can't

[@sternonisoil]

There are some really good close-up shots online from the shot show coverage that show the holster does indeed accommodate the spare mag

[@Yapperinos]

If you register it as a suppressor there's no need to worry about vertical grips. That said, the 320 raider has the same type of mag holder and AFT hasn't shut it down. The key is printing "not a VFG" on it and making it less than 90 degrees

[@Yapperinos]

Meant to say register as SBR

[@cynickicksass]

Keep worrying, and keep it to yourself

[@lolk4530]

​@@cynickicksassits a valid concern.

[@williamcarpenter4596]

So much for Q1

[@tt-128c]

I’m trying to understand is this for the p365xl or the p365 or both?

[@Genesis23OPB]

now it looks a lot like the B&T USW chassis for the P320, but i like the front magazine grip of the flux tbh

[@astrocat2913]

I wish they would bring back the glock flux brace

[@epicfortnitekid8536]

Buy a printer and make a digital nimbus invader, copy of the p320 flux raider but for glocks instead

[@MajorMiscreant]

They are never going to be able to make enough of these to fill the demand LMAO

[@BlueZee28]

And here we are in Q2 with no P365 Raider

[@bench175]

Will this work on p365-380?

[@BRG13DEAN]

Will it work with a 365 xmacro with the comp slide?

[@2ndToLast501]

A product the ATF can't wait to get you on

[@ATXAdventure]

I'm so confused by these flux raiders, do you have to file NFA paperwork?

[@Kaisersosaie91]

Hmm had the flux raider, got the new flux X now you had to hit me with this one

[@BoNuS1013]

Will they fit XL models?

[@Cyotis]

Is there an APX version in the works since it also has a serialized trigger pack ?

[@Yapperinos]

Sig guns have the lion's share of the market. They're not gonna design a whole nother model just for 3% of other users. Springfield also has an FCU gun now. Can't bend over for everybody.

[@MrHunter830]

This, is the most wonderful time of the year 👌.

[@hunterbennett3563]

Will this be compatible with other 365 variants such as the XL ?

[@Yapperinos]

Slides and FCU, yes. But it only fits macro magazines

[@ttran626]

In production from flux means there will be 3 available in the 1st quarter

[@MurderBallad]

So for my p365 I’d need the chassis, and what else - longer barrel and slide?

[@lolk4530]

I think you only need a longer barrel if you want to run a suppressor.

[@Yapperinos]

You'd need the longer barrel if you don't want to run a can. They will offer the longer barrel I don't think anyone makes one that long yet. You need the FCU, a non-macro slide, and macro mags. Short, threaded barrel if you want a can. Otherwise wait for their long barrel. Their holster will probly be fit for a certain light but I don't know which light yet

[@hammer21623]

Will it work with the 365 xl

[@jonn8163]

It’s still almost impossible to buy the original Flux Raider. Been trying for years and always lose out while it’s in my cart & paying for it so how much harder will it be to actually be able to purchase the 365 version?? I’ve literally had it in my cart 7 times when they’ve dropped and was unable to be fast enough. It would really be nice if they could ramp-up productions so people can actually buy them.

[@Bob-b7x6v]

This is some Borderlands-level gunsmithing. Well done.

[@emanuelemanuel7038]

Legendary DAHL

[@predragdjuric-tt9uc]

a great neat shorts pocket friendly video and product Mr James have a good one.

[@Rigatonispaghettioly]

what variants of the p365 are compatible

[@managepay]

which slide do i need to make it work with that 6" barrel? would the standard 3" barrel also work?

[@drewfarmer6962]

Does this take standard p365 magazine? They look like p320 to me, i cant tell.

[@iatros0838]

Is there something wrong with that stock? He said it "normally locks". He had to hopd the folded stock down with a finger.

[@TheHanshotfirst]

Pretty exciting. Is this an NFA item?

[@Sig_P229]

It’s very ambiguous and nobody will take responsibility after you assemble it.

[@MurderBallad]

If you get the stock yes.

[@bmartin863]

Only you would know if you had it . Just don’t broadcast it to the world and you will be fine.

[@timunderbakke8756]

If you get the stock version, then yes. Technically it is. If you get the brace version, you’re currently in untested waters that is being sifted. There is an injunction active against the atf pistol brace shenanigans thanks to SCOTUS but they haven’t fully ripped it up yet. You may end up with them claiming it’s an nfa item by the end, or maybe not. Given you’re not buying a firearm, you’re just buying parts, don’t be a dummy and you’ll be fine. I don’t own any of these things at present as I’ve never been a 320 owner and that’s the only design they ever had before

[@bmartin863]

@@timunderbakke8756 P.S. It’s only illegal if they find out you have it . 🤫

[@69FJB69]

Yes love it like a budget tp9 from b&t

[@cvilleftw]

What optic is that?

[@bodhim4353]

I like that they are running this on a FCU with a thumb safety. That alone makes it more attractive to me for carry

[@realitycheck4158]

I have been dreaming of this for months ❤

[@bflaves123]

Resellers about to have a field day

[@BigFox86]

Please consider making an alternate version of this that folds the other direction. The current design doesn't work well for left-handed clients.

[@cherokeecook1260]

Seems to me they're resources are better spent on meeting demand for the original flux

[@Yapperinos]

That's coming along steadily. People who want it bad enough are getting it in the last year. Molds are hella expensive, if they doubled production I'd bet they'd run out of demand pretty quick. But actually this is kind of like doubling production. If you can snag one of these you probably don't need the full size.

[@StepCrow]

Man I like the sig varieties more, but they never have a stable optic mount, so I have to go with the Glock B&T usw

[@XrayMike17plus1]

I'll be shocked if this is ever in stock, but Damn, I'll be getting one if is. Needs a least a single sling mount...

[@yonotmyname]

Apparently the reviews on this are great

[@Orudaiken]

Reviews? It hasn't even been released!

[@Mister-sm1hs]

What did he say about the silencer? I think its a new drop from silencerco that is better for the flux config....

[@dillonalinsod5994]

I’m wondering this also idk why it was just skimmed over

[@ethanmitchell3439]

Stop complaining about availability guys. You will have a good chance of being successful in picking one up if you are on their newsletter and follow them on the socials. Just like any other product that is sold in drops. I bought one of the last mp17s and I would have been able to snag the X version from that drop if I had wanted another. The last mp17 drop lasted for several days before all the variants were out of stock. So while they may go quickly out of the gate just have patience and you’ll be able to snag one eventually.

[@Schultz344]

I want this style chassis but for the 320. I'm not a fan of the chunkyness of the Flux.

[@justinfacer621]

The original flux raider is for a p320 if im not mistaken

[@lolk4530]

Welp, Q1 is over...

[@mattrobson3603]

Maybe I'm an idiot here, but why don't any of these chassis systems put the red dot at the front of the gun? They're made for pistols, which means they're designed for a lot more eye relief than the short length of pull that a system like the Raider can give. So wouldn't it make a little more sense to mount the optic as far away from the eye as possible? On this gun it would be especially easy, since there's already a solid piece to hold the longer barrel which would be even better for the sight since it's not going to be subject to the forces imparted by a slide mount.

[@smallstripes]

Why doesnt the stock lock to the side? Looks like it just flops around loose if it isnt locked to the rear.

[@JimYeats]

He said normally it will “lock in”. I assume this has some prototype glitches.

[@johndeaux3703]

Why is this only for SIGs?

[@skullraptor59]

So if I understand correctly. They plan to sell these as complete kits, FCU, Slide, Optic, Flux Chassis, and 6" barrel? GIMME!!!!

[@UltimateEnd0]

I don't get it, shouldn't it have a comp?

[@Imabananna1]

Are they going to do anything about getting the optic up off the slide like the OG flux raider?

[@epicfortnitekid8536]

Prob not for conceal carry purposes

[@TheHeliommm]

will this fit the P365xl?

[@monsta3038]

Seems they should make them fit really crappy guns that you want to use like hi point or palmetto dagger?

[@washingtoncommandcenter5541]

Kinda niche, but Flux should make a Flux brace/Flashmag for the Silencerco Maxim 9, especially with those auto ones making the rounds on KZbin. An Auto Maxim 9 with the Flux Brace/Flashmag could be the sickest PDW ever.

[@Commander_Strider]

do I need the 6 inch barrel for it to work? If not very cool.

[@overtimealex69]

It doesn’t need it. We are just making the 6” so that people can have better 9mm performance if they want it.

[@Commander_Strider]

@@overtimealex69 sounds awesome, very excited for it.

[@bobibobilli1537]

The Music Ughhhhhhhh. 1985 Metal Gear Solid title screen 📺. He’s got the Power 🧤!

[@NJNino82]

Nj legal?

[@alfredzig2035]

What material is it made off? Does the front part (sleeve) works like a muzzle brake?

[@Yapperinos]

Aluminum. The front cover is to cover over a 6" barrel, let you grip on, and/or to mount an optic. The 6" barrel is to meet up with the bottom rail for a flashlight, and so you don't put your finger in front of the barrel. You could alternativly use a regular size barrel with a suppressor.

[@alfredzig2035]

@@Yapperinos I see ... I thought it could work like muzzle brake chamber in front of a shorter barrel, helping to reduce felt recoil. But I understand now, it is (probably) not enclosed at that end ...

[@trooper6762]

You guys did it, nice!