New FNC Team Is Kinda Impressive

[@riahsaonirit2650]

Razork-Upset-Mikyx vs Ocscarinin-Humanoid 3v2 will be crazy

[@hamburgerlover9825]

fr man like I didn’t watch every single fnatic game from last year but I am shocked they’re bringing Oscar back for a third year he just seems hella inconsistent

[@shlokechakraborty9873]

@@hamburgerlover9825 He is still more serviceable than most tops, in the series that fnc lost to g2 all year none of them iirc were because bb gapped oscar and he can also lose lane gracefully against top laners better than him, his downside is that he extends far too much in fights causing them to lose and his cluelessness in lane swaps, I believe he was a top 3 top laner in lec last year and hopefully the new coaching staff makes him better

[@boyonthephone4331]

​@@shlokechakraborty9873fnatic unironically can use miky as a coach and the team will be top 2 and look 10x better than this year. This team doesn't need a coach, it needs players that actually call shots

[@yasinsagin456]

​@@shlokechakraborty9873 let the church in the town brother oscar not getting gapped at all by BB this year is just a wrong statement.

[@mathiskochermann835]

Just bring in Odo, Finn, Wunder or any rookie for Toplane and this team would be very good

[@THEkullerpuller]

How have people still not realise that Fnc didn't CHOOSE to keep Humanoid, they literally have to. They cant just rip up his contract because of labor laws so even if they bench him they'll have to keep paying him. Even with reduced salary, paying him plus a new midlaner might still be more expensive than he is alone and, like it or not, every mid they might try that isn't named Caps might be even worse for them. They also can't sell him because even with zero buyout, no team will want to take over his giant salary, given his recent performance. Humanoid is literally the first player to Uno-reverse the contract jail.

[@talhosnit4653]

bring back Nemesis

[@THEkullerpuller]

@ I honestly can't tell if you're joking, given the takes going around sometimes xD

[@boyonthephone4331]

​@@THEkullerpullerwell, nemesis would 100% be better, he would never join fnatic again (understandably so)

[@THEkullerpuller]

@@boyonthephone4331 yes but how does him being better (maybe) make any of the problems I listed go away? 😄

[@boyonthephone4331]

@@THEkullerpuller oh I thought this was meant out of context. I do agree with what you said even tho I also think gambling on a cheap af rookie mid might be more worth given how atrocious huma played these last few years

[@a-qsedo8058]

As G2 fan I hope Fnatic will be great so we had competition on the region

[@Sigmund000]

To me Fnatic have a better roster than last year only because i feel like communication/macro wise they'll be a lot more decisive, i'm just scared that a team of Humanoid Razork Upset Miky might be a smurf/int type of team, but i'm still positive on this move even though some people dont rate Upset i feel like if u pair Upset with a really good agressive support he thrives with that (Hyli as an example)

[@pitercioo2397]

jankos not having a team is criminal

[@PastaDiMama44]

I think he got multiple offers but just rejected them. Unless he got an offer that he really liked, he might prefer streaming at this point

[@Jack_Gibby]

Not really he wants a lot of money...

[@MultiQwasar]

There is still a chance in GX

[@legitrandom5924]

He wants same thing as Nemesis he wants a team that can win not just play for fun he could be streaming for fun making more money than playing for fun.

[@FabtonYT]

@@PastaDiMama44 only offer we know so far he rejected because he said so was KC, because of extremely low pay.

[@PeoplePleaser578]

Dom when Fnatic build a roster “This roster just doesn’t do anything”. Fnatic the moment they sign Upset “This is the best roster in the LEC”

[@ae86xtrueno93]

Weird how a good adc who is really good at playing on the edge, makes your team way way better.

[@PeoplePleaser578]

@ The thing is… Upset doesn’t play on the edge. That’s never been who he is. Noah plays more on the edge than Upset does… that’s why Noah “chokes” because he tries to make big plays whereas Upset doesn’t, Upset struggles to take 60/40 plays because he is afraid of dying. Like players like Hans, Noah play way more on the edge than he does. They actually have the confidence to step forward and be like “Yeah I’m gonna bring the game to you, because I know I can outplay”. He will be farming Krugs as the enemy team takes soul and his team gets wiped. Then Dom and Thorin will make a 5 hour long video saying how there is absolutely nothing Upset could have done anyway and how his team is just bad and always was and Upset is actually the best ADC the west has ever seen… like every other time he has been on a “hype” roster that winds up doing nothing.

[@Klennexus]

@@PeoplePleaser578agree Upset has the „Rekkles-Playstyle“ Farm get big, fight front to back. Nothing like Elk who would Galeforce forward with Aphelios

[@rubencp93]

What will be stronger: my hatred for humanoid and fnc, or the fact I like upset and miky? The good thing is, unless Dom streams it, I'm not watching the LEC, so either way it's okay! c:

[@jinzo_lord]

Honestly I'm down to follow Fnatic next year because Pete makes bangers content on their yt

[@Snootz86]

Wonder if dom will still not watch LEC next year (he seems to like the rosters).. subbed to him for ages.. but mostly only get to watch him for LEC and sometimes LCS

[@EchoesOfNihility]

he will watch if he gets costream rights, which im assuming they will finally give him

[@boyonthephone4331]

​@@EchoesOfNihilityno fucking way you believe that what? Did LEC say anything along those lines? Cause if no, there is literally 0 reason to give him co-streaming this year if they didnt last year

[@daandepauw5252]

I mean dom needs the LEC more than the LEC needs him. Most of his viewers come for the LEC lifeview/costreams so I doubt he will pull through with it.

[@lukasschroder7195]

Regarding Vetheo. Wasnt the whole storyline over the past 2 years that he has some Mentality issues and his work ethic really suffered. I was really hyped when he entered the LEC with Misfits but seems like he just couldnt keep up with the midlane pool here.

[@Krisuchu]

Vetheo needs to run it down harder in soloq to get back to lec

[@Jppanp]

He would sooner AFK and do nothing rather than die a single time and sacrificing his stats

[@RevyPls]

Still huma mid.. nothing will change.

[@GamementLP]

Yeah I think both solo laners are not championship material

[@reko3458]

Humanoid is the greatest imposter of all time

[@patak63gaming]

@@GamementLPso true, other than Razork their topside is so bad

[@UnitedByMusic2]

yeah insane how they keeping the biggest problem on the team

[@PatBat3man]

⁠@@UnitedByMusic2 You don’t know what the biggest problem on their team is. You’re a random gamer, you’re not a pro player, which there’s a reason for. You aren’t smart enough. You don’t know how much teamwork, synergy and morale means.

[@Exo-riah]

Might actually be a competitive year with the new format and interesting teams

[@jore5725]

They will get budget coach, no positional or macro coaches and it will be same issues as every year last half decade

[@eidamgouda0609]

Yea, I agree 100% that this looks like better Fnc roster.. and some dumb fans would change Humanoid lol

[@steverichman4962]

dumb is to think that Humanoid is a good midlaner and fnc could win something with him!

[@dashie2872]

@@steverichman4962 Yeah its really dumb to think that player who made worlds 6 times in a row with 5 different rosters and is generally praised by his former teammates is good player...

[@Velereonics]

mikyx always doing something that is correct in some context it just isn't always the context he is currently in

[@rsh4867]

I hope Humanoid and Oscar can get more consistency, if they do they actually have a chance. RazorK, Upset, MikyX is a massive trio.

[@grrumakemeangry]

nah not razork and humanoid on the same team again 💀

[@uhis1686]

feel like fnc could do with a different toplaner. then again i don't know what oscar brings behind the scenes. would have liked to see Odo maybe?

[@sarkasmrocks]

We had a roster like this before, im not 'buying into the hype' until i see results 😅

[@NoradNoxtus]

As a longtime Upset fan I'm glad he's still being given a chance at the top team. Thankfully behind the scenes his stock hasn't dropped yet and everyone can see that KC was not his fault.

[@Lickmyxbow]

I'd love this 100x more if Humanoid was gone but we're so back

[@federicovassallo8224]

Ok it's big for FNC having mikyx and upset but the problem is who Will be the shotcaller , upset does not like doing It , oscar and humanoid don't shotcall, mikyx and razork are okaish but they can't do whole game and razork last year sad that if he shotcall whole game he won't be able to jungle well

[@fellnase98]

Every member of a Humanoid roster at some point said that he is one of the most impressive mid-to-late game shot caller and macro "minds". And at multiple points during his Fnatic tenure he showed that. I mean there were whole parts of some splits where it seemed that Fnatic were only staying competitive cause of Humanoid calling smart top tier 1/2 for Drakes trades and keeping the game stable through macro. But this year his mid-to-late game macro has been severely off.

[@sandz1988]

should be cool to se Perkz to replace humanoid

[@Kentuckian1999]

We need Perkz back please!!!!

[@francesco8000]

I want to live long enough to see FNC Perkz one day.

[@Craftee6]

It is possible as of this year. But yea i dont think fnc would want him at this point.

[@StarClay666]

Nah that ship has sailed we don't want him at FNC anymore.

[@viniciusBR23]

dude is washed

[@EchoesOfNihility]

i dont see any potential in oscar sadly dont know why they invest in him . Huma is a giant fraud . This team will never change , as a fnc fan for over 10 years, i hate this team

[@steverichman4962]

The biggest problem with Fnatic is still Dardo and that will never change! After that and i am pretty sure everyone else would change midlane, Humanoid is the next big problem. Replace him with Serin! He is soo damn good and the best midlaner from EU Masters, so if you want a Rookie in LEC on mid, it has to be him

[@zobtastik]

The int will be ridiculous

[@Mayancinnamon]

FNC added braincells

[@ezuri4381]

Miky might be the next yellowstaR for FNC.

[@tenarmurk]

Im big upset fan but i cant get happy if humanoid is still on the team

[@ME14-00]

FNC and adc drama is something that they love to have so this team will fail for some weird reason involving the ex adc they used to have. In 2026 Noah is back in Fnatic , and then rekkles

[@steverichman4962]

in 2026 they will get smash and rekkles

[@GuyPearce217]

Where is worlds opening reaction ? POST THE VID

[@R0D3Z]

Still razork/humanoid combo, they just dont work well together, idk what to expect from FNC tbh

[@skojuzija]

I think that FNC needs more better coach and coaching stuff than better players bcs they have good players but bad drafts and game plan

[@sultancat2]

G2 is always good Fnc's new roster seems good MDK's mid change is extremely hype GX seems to be cooking something good KC is bringing in their prized new adc BDS also seems to be on to something The remaining 4 (SK, RGE, TH, VIT) seem boring. Though I welcome them proving me wrong.

[@TwoToo_]

just kick out humanoid or force him to play like a crackhead until his KDA is either insane or you can justify kicking him, then slap oscar or break his hand again to make him more confident and crazy on his return, leave razork alone, and last but not least try to stop upset from taking a draven-gragas 1v1 under gragas tower with gragas flash and ult up, and you're good to go, might win lec even. (oh and tell upset to fight in 5v5s or tell him to open his mouth and say my champ can't space this easily play safe). basically G2.2 if you do these things, lec winner contenders guaranteed

[@LK2909]

they cant kick humanoid due to his big contract coming over from a winning mad lions. he has one of the highest contracts at the moment because he signed at his peak and for a long time.. Due to the labour laws he can sit it out his contract and still be paid, so they cant afford to get another good top tier mid.

[@steverichman4962]

@@LK2909 then get a rookie and the best one you can get is Serin from NNO Prime, the best midlaner in german league and EU Masters, he is cheaper then everyone else, bec Noway and the others could pay him that much as streamers

[@LK2909]

@@steverichman4962 why would they do that tough.. im all for a mid change in fnc, but they still have a good track record as a squad. Placing top 3 lec consistantly,going msi and worlds. He might also bring alot to the team behind the scenes for all we know. Both upset and mikey are pretty clear voices in what they need. Think fnc will looi better next year

[@misimluta309]

Vetheo was an amazing player what happened to him

[@christhis9597]

Except they still have humanoid razork

[@bbryan__515]

everyone blaming humanoid but who should fnatic get instead of him?????????? he's literally top 2 mid in eu, only better option was caps (and now jojopyun maybe)

[@steverichman4962]

Serin!

[@RelentlessBG]

there is nothing to talk about in the LEC 😂 G2 will keep dominating the region with no opposition while they look plat players on international stage while the rest of the teams will just be happy losing to G2

[@Polemion]

still fnatic has a garbage management and i wont excuse them. Fnatic management with yun pr was absolute poorly taken

[@ShawnBlaque]

Is Botoid still on the team? Then no it's not impressive lmao

[@skslssodls1803]

As long as oscarin is on that squad this team will still suck D.

[@Loutripe]

I agree, people talk about huma, but oscarin got gapped so hard at world, i don't know what's the point

[@PastaDiMama44]

​​@@Loutripe unironically Oscar, Razork & Huma felt invisible at worlds. But ofcourse those 3 are staying. Wish FNC kicked those 3 and build new team with Noah and Jun.

[@c.p.6061]

​@@Loutripeimagine yapping about worlds. How about aiming to win a split

[@Ceracio]

@@PastaDiMama44 I feel like Razork did pretty well considering Jun was inting during worlds, which ment he was playing around exactly one reasonably good player. That's not an easy task for a jungler.

[@gaborolaszi5062]

@@PastaDiMama44 yea just kick the best performing eu jg by far and build around the 2 imports known for chocking or tilting. what a great idea, you should be their GM.

[@misimluta309]

Bro mikyx is the best support in lec by far , g2 made a mistake letting him go , especially to fnatic

[@samkeyman8140]

Question, if the main problem with Fnatic is their org itself (leadership/ownership) and not the players, does it matter if they have an impressive roster or not?

[@thecrusaders413]

Fnatic has to jail who made this contract to Humanoid, how can you give 800k for this mid level player?

[@PeoplePleaser578]

He was on 1.1/1.2 million… he took a 15% wage cut. He got it because he was coming off a win with Mad Lions.

[@franciscomagallanes5658]

Humanoid still on FNC is not good, as well as the main coaches. I got a lot of respect for Humanoid but we need a better Midlaner.

[@Jon-xq3xg]

There's no real reason to think Upset-Mikyx will win FNC a title. Both are veterans on a downward trend. This is just Dom showing his bias once again.

[@MCG55SS]

doubt they will win but its not cuz Upset or Mickyx is on a downward trend (tho of course mickyx is on downward trend if you won MVP the prior year you really can't go higher). Upset and Mickyx will be solid but unless the team learns MACRO at just a fundamental level the will never compete in LEC because G2 actually understands map state and how to play around it, where / when to rotate, how to be patient for item lvl spikes, meanwhile FNC just get a lead and throw shit at a fan all day hoping it will stick.

[@stefankatsarov5806]

Mikyx was on a downard trent when he left G2and then had his best year when he came back, so you never know. But unless they have good micro they will never be good.

[@Malek-jt7ou]

​@MCG55SS agreed. And Miky will surely improve those macro decisions in game with all his experience on G2. It's going to depend on Upset imo

[@Xzibitfreek]

downward trend, bro mikyx was considered the best western player just one year ago. look at everybodys top 20 players in the world going into 2023 worlds, people were picking mikyx over caps. one mediocre year doesnt just ruin all of that. Upset was KDA Upset because the man was tilted by a terrible team. Its not like he did major errors himself, he had to play with the worst support by far and a team that was probably worse than its academy team. Unsurprisingly when KC changed its roster in Summer, Upset played well again, so if anything hes on an upwards trend.

[@FitzgeraldStanburyWeissV]

What a cliwn statement.

[@hungerxhunger2548]

Upset and Humanoid are kinda mid

[@kimkom5648]

Fnc 10th place incoming

[@WilliamLloydBevan]

G2 are literally doing a football manager building a nation save. Sending their winning players out to raise the level of the league

[@bpnn2428]

Still bad. They may win one split in LEC if new G2 is shit. No way they do anything internationaly.

[@oyunmudendin3576]

Yeah vetheo is eu chovy he never won when it matters

[@Rayon811]

MAREK BRAZDA

[@prainiak5710]

I mean the fact that FNC's sololanes are still nowhere near as good as the ones for G2 for example will bite them in the ass once more

[@srensen3081]

you cant get better solo lanes than g2 in eu unless you import them

[@boyonthephone4331]

​@@srensen3081Irrelevant is extremely close but he joined that bum ass BDS team ://

[@srensen3081]

@@boyonthephone4331 id have to see him at worlds first but yeah hes really fking good

[@mikesrourian9463]

I think it's a good bot lane, UPSET back then in FNC was already good but i think hyli's silly plays kept him a step back at times but now with Miky I think they can have a decent lane going on.

[@kekw4630]

man just get rid of humanoid plsss

[@nathansantosdiaz5610]

I think its a downgrade from Noah and jun

[@crimson639]

Upset Humanoid is not the answer anymore if you wanna compete with G2, I'm not even talking about making it far internationally

[@pedrovskidantini2324]

2024 upset still overated

[@eddievedderface]

Upset is a master conman. 3 10th places in a row. 4 overall. Yet people swear it's not his fault and he still get's hired by bigger teams because his KDA looks good.

[@balinttamas2225]

You're clueless

[@boyonthephone4331]

Ah-ha, so the best supp the west has ever seen just randomly wants to play with a "kda player". Now I get it, thank you for enlightening us 😀

[@PeoplePleaser578]

@@boyonthephone4331Wanting to play with someone you are friends with… doesn’t mean they are good or aren’t a KDA player. Like Perkz wanted to play with Upset and look how that turned out.

[@ISesseriI]

Can't wait for upset to have 10-1 kd/a because he never ever fights anything that isn't 100% guaranteed

[@toniyakovlev4403]

He refuses to fight 3v2 while lvl 6 vs lvl 5 AND full item vs half. More like 385737292636% guaranteed or he runs away..

[@boyonthephone4331]

So you're now saying that Upset is the new Rekkles? Idk about that man, Rekkles on that G2 roster was 10x worse and nobody said anything. Oh well, just like with T1, Rekkles just will never get critized by anyone while others get critiziced for doing less bad things.

[@PeoplePleaser578]

⁠@@boyonthephone4331Nobody said anything? Bro people flame Rekkles 3 years later. He is in Korea playing Chess with Faker and people are stlll trying to flame him. People aren’t even watching him in LCKCL and are still trying to make up narratives about him. Where have you been in the last half a decade? Upset is nothing like Rekkles. Prime Rekkles would 100% carry his team, prime upset is finishing 10th place and be called the best ADC in the history of western LoL despite not winning anything.

[@boyonthephone4331]

@PeoplePleaser578 so you're just salty? Cause prime Upset is not a tenth place player but that showed me you are the one who does not watch pro play one bit

[@Xzibitfreek]

Upset has done best with Hyli, im sure hell be fine with Mikyx, a support player who actually has hands unlike Targamas. Besides, the narrative of KDA Upset is kinda stupid when his damage stats have been perfectly fine. At this point youre all just asking him to int. If hes doing good damage, what more do you really want from him?

[@Soulhope85]

gg fnc 2nd place again.

[@keramik1269]

Ok and now get vetheo or perkz instead of humanoid

[@prostewqlfys82]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD yeah

[@keramik1269]

@prostewqlfys82 ? No league knowledge?

[@radmiral9048]

ppl forget too fast right ? watch playoffs in EU again and tell me who should replace humanoid in EU when he shitted on everyone expect caps ofc

[@keramik1269]

@@radmiral9048 he was garbage last Playoffs tf are u even saying

[@prostewqlfys82]

@@keramik1269 surely b ro surely

[@marcinjankowski4432]

Literally a downgrade

[@TheBlink182ify]

Oscarinin is in that team... they 100% not winning shit with oscar + human

[@MultiQwasar]

Ye, it's impressive how they didn't address any of teams issues with those roaster changes, like weak topside, no mid-jg synergy, weak coaching staff that is understaffed

[@stefankatsarov5806]

They fired their coach even.

[@MultiQwasar]

@stefankatsarov5806 ye the only person that wanted to introduce good changes into the team like hiring supporting coaches

[@fathertime7864]

FNATIC taking the 2 most overhyped players Huma and Upset 😂

[@thebeastmaster2710]

How is Humanoid overhyped, most people say he needs to be replaced, and Upset hasn't played this year, so he should be good because he was before, but how is it overhyped.

[@THEkullerpuller]

Pretty much everyone is down on Humanoid and the only reason people might believe in Upset is because they remember how insanely good he was in 22 and think that, given how dependent adc is on support, he could get back to that form with Mikyx. So in what world are they hyped to begin with, let alone OVERhyped?😄

[@PastaDiMama44]

​@@THEkullerpuller Upset was the biggest Zeri abuser in the whole year of 2022. Zeri was so broken back then. Besides Zeri, he was decent on Kaisa and thats it. After 2022 he didn't do much in any game or team he was in.

[@jorisoims3085]

@@thebeastmaster2710 Upset did play this year he was on Kcorp, and like the past few years, he wasn't good at all, he is just a KDA player, always have been.

[@THEkullerpuller]

@ I mean yeah played Zeri a lot and had a lot of success on it. You know who else could've done that? Every other adc in the league. But he was just better at it than them. But I agree, he didn't do much since. I'd argue that that's also on his teams (not saying he played well tho) but most people seem to be down on him because of that so how is he overhyped? Also he was very good in 21 and his most played champs that year were Kaisa, Trist and Xayah and his highest wr was on Ez and Samira. That's a pretty wide range of playstyles imo. In 22 his most played was Aphelios with 15 games. He had 12 games on both Lucian and Zeri. So why are we talking about him like he's a onetrick who can't play anything else?

[@waledess4092]

noah to upset is a downgrade

[@franciscomagallanes5658]

2024 Upset impressive? LMFAO

[@PayAttEx]

Terrible take on Miky. He had plenty of time outside of G2 and did absolutely nothing, wasn't a contender or a top support. Miky has done nothing without Caps. And Upset has done nothing in general.

[@Andrew-xv5tf]

Relax lilbro. He's a good player. Of course he'd play better with the Western goat, cos the team was/would be fundamentally better.

[@PayAttEx]

@@Andrew-xv5tf I'm relaxed. Dom is talking about Miky like he's some X factor when all his success is with the goat mid and goat jungler of Europe. Literally done nothing else and people act like he's gonna be better than Jun for FNC. Just crazy takes...

[@j4vii_c]

what the fuck are you saying he literally carried xl to playoffs for the first time, and he played half (“plenty of time”🤓🤓) a season lol, the thing is that you base your opinion on results instead of gameplay and actually you are not even correct in that LMAO

[@j4vii_c]

like xl was a top tier org, what do you want him to do, win worlds with xl?

[@kullsta7304]

Miky made that bumass XL team go 5 games against a FNC reaching finals which made G2 want him back. Upset on the other hand was the main reason that FNC lineup actually did something of notoriety (granted he had actual humans facilitating him on that team, something he's not had since).

[@aimassisthater6085]

upset is such a downgrade to noah bottom feeder team inc

[@cuddlycactus3661]

this is such a downgrade