New iPad Pro review: can it replace your laptop?

Apple’s new iPad Pro is a beast of a tablet, and Nilay Patel reviews it -- everything from its new design and screen to plugging in several devices to the new USB-C port. Dami Lee and William Joel, professional creatives at The Verge, also give their insight into the new iPad and Apple Pencil.
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[@EposVox]

"I don't want to adapt to my computer, I want my computer to adapt to me." THIS IS THE BEST LINE IN ANY REVIEW. Brutal review here. I love it. These are the issues that have always kept me from getting one.

[@nobodyaskedyou6703]

3rd

[@michaelpatrick4796]

Worst review- showed absolutely NO reality about the machine, showed nothing of what it does, showed NONE of the platform evolution and software evolution. This is the worst review of all time.

[@talhahbhuiyan9390]

@@michaelpatrick4796 Lol he showed the potential of the iPad with the people who are going to buy it. There's a specific audience for it. He talked about everything necessary in this review.

[@oilandgaspapi9215]

Facts

[@EposVox]

Yeah it definitely showed some of the evolution. Half the video was quite direct and specific comparisons between this one and the previous one. Not every video needs to (or should) have a full product line history - that would just be a lot of wasted video time, kill retention of viewers, etc. much better suited to its own video.

[@teachervictor7645]

Someone FINALLY answered the "laptop replacement question" correctly.

[@sloppyjoe9156]

Didn't Dave Lee answer it like a year ago

[@BrodyLando]

haha Yes i was thinking the same thing when I was watching this.

[@EatCoffee]

This is the comment I was looking for 😊

[@1111italia1111]

woah the verge step their game up! amazing review he answered most of my questions ! so maybe i think i will go with macbook air instead! what do u think for netflix twitch n stuff its better the new air or iPad ?

[@calden74]

You needed someone to tell you if the iPad Pro would work for you or not?

[@yingdong9175]

Imagine a nuclear reactor powers a fishing boat; this is that.

[@Paycheck777]

*That is how the iPad Pro do*

[@yrg007]

Yea and then they left that boat in a pond.

[@PuddinPie]

So the world is going nuclear but some people just wanna go fishing

[@nicknorthcutt7680]

The iPad story that never ends

[@vanMrMann]

This would be an instant buy for me if it would support desktop apps…

[@Y-J65]

Definitely agree with you on that. I love the form factor and the hardware if they had mac os on this it would kill the sales of the macbook laptops.

[@sabarinath4524]

Yeahh like photoshop

[@Htiy]

Y45EEN that’s exactly why they won’t give it mac OS

[@jeje-xw5rd]

same :(

[@roccobot]

Finally, a not-overenthusiastic, systematic, comprehensive review of this thing from a professional's perspective. Thumbs up Nilay!

[@dankdc5_]

Rocco Casadei shots fired with ijustines name on the bullets😂

[@brandonelam4284]

Just about to say ijustine

[@juriselorde8251]

I was about to say the same thing. Glad he did not sugarcoat it. At least i know what to get now

[@JamesLeeFilmmaker73]

Thanks for a very honest review, "I don't want to adapt to my computer, I want my computer to adapt to me." sums up the iPad Pro

[@pngrn]

sums up the apple ecosystem

[@refreshious]

Apple mantra is for you to adapt to their products.

[@basshead.]

G A M I N G P C

[@onemorechris]

You summed it up way better than I did

[@DJ-ls4vy]

Imagine Tony Stark’s arc reactor only being used to power your lamp. This is that

[@artemis428]

man this is the best ipad pro review of all channels, one year later, it's still informative and fun to watch. Nilay is of invaluable asset to Verge.

[@MikePhoenix007]

One of best detailed and explained reviews I've seen of any product. Bloody well done!

[@AuthenTech]

Great honesty! Thank you

[@aminbajrektarevicab]

It's a shame about the software. I have a 2017 12.9 pro and I never came close to the limits of the A10x processor. This A12x is great and all but just a gimmick at this point as there isn't one app to take advantage of that properly. Apple really needs to redesign iOS from ground up to make this thing useful, or just make a modified macOS version.

[@moser3712]

If a12 is utilised the devices will last not more than 6 months

[@aminbajrektarevicab]

@@moser3712 I don't agree, the OS will fly on this chip no matter what, and so will all the basic tasks. To utilize the A12x you need proper software, but then you have the same scenario as with any other laptop where you get the performance that you pay for. It's never going to do the same tasks any worse than now. When you add new functionally that this chip can't handle, it's time for a new device, as with every other. We shouldn't remove functionality so the first gen ipad can run everything smooth, what would be the point of new hardware?

[@chrisearl7941]

The problem is that iPad Pro is being held back as a laptop replacement by being treated as a powerful table. The new pencil is the one thing that I look at with envy over m 2017 12.9 model, as I justified my purchase as substitute for a graphics tablets (doesn’t work that well if your other computer isn’t a Mac)

[@user-yk9lu2sr2r]

Well,I guess fortnite will, in the future .But when you are about to pay $2200 for a tablet,you could have as well used that much amount of money to buy a gaming rig

[@suprxmestorm7090]

Amin Bajrektarevic By 2020 apple is gonna be making there own arm cpus. This means that’s Mac OS ( based on the x86 architecture) is gonna be a legacy software. There gonna integrate iOS and Mac OS and this iPad and the iPad coming after this are gonna support it. That’s why the speed doesn’t matter right now but later apple is gonna take advantage of it.

[@Splootyy]

Imagine an iPad Pro that can switch from MacOS to IOS and vice versa whenever the user feels like it.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Thien Pham That would actually be genius! When docked, it would be a MacBook, but when not, it would be an iPad!

[@frostedpancake3882]

Samsung tablets kind of do this with dex, it’s an android-based, windows like operating system.

[@noureb3833]

the power without having full access is useless

[@wyattb3138]

noure b, there’s software updates to improve so...

[@GM-fd7mv]

iOS 13 fix ?

[@cameronbosch1213]

GM 3 *iPadOS 13

[@bhaviksingh5743]

I just wish apple's education discounts were more significant

[@racqueldixon8639]

Bhavik Singh how much is it thou?

[@Grenyas]

@@racqueldixon8639 The discount knocks off $50

[@dusscode]

They just throw a suitcase on you and close the door if you ask for lower prices.

[@racqueldixon8639]

So do they give the discount to foreign students or just Americans?

[@bobBob-oz5zc]

RRacquel Sweetness maybe google that one. People are gonna tell you different things

[@morganwalden127]

The first unbiased Apple review I've ever seen.

[@hicamajig]

This video is a perfect summary of the iPad Pro. In its current state it is a professional device for professionals and creatives who are using it for a specific purpose and are in a setting where the cost for that purpose is worth it. I think Apples biggest mistake is trying to half market it as a laptop/desktop replacement because while sure certain types of workflow can take advantage of this, the average user may see this and get frustrated when they try to use it as their one and only device (unless it is just an overpriced netflix/youtube/email box). This is of course unless we get an iOS 13/14 that swoops in and fixes the gripes. The two most common ones I hear/see are lack of file system support (including external usb) for management of large files and as stated in the video directly opening them in apps like the new Photoshop CC, and lack of mouse for things like excel. Essentially every other OS supports both of these things so it is doable, we just need to make it clear in their mind that it is what we want.

[@tryambakshandilya]

Exceptional review

[@ACIB708]

Come on, it was good. That was it.

[@lacadrimas]

Wait till to watch iPhonedo's iPad review..

[@prathameshchaudhari]

Exceptionally bad

[@PokeRetroFan]

Agreed one of the best ive every watched on youtube.

[@BrodyLando]

Yes I agree. Probably the best review that I have seen so far on the ipad. Good information to think of.

[@leoceoliveira]

"I don't want to adapt to my computer, I want my computer to adapt to me." 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 No youtube 4k on this display? NOOOO. I love the concept of the iPad and I might see myself purchasing one but some of these limitations are just so so sad.

[@thibautnoah2599]

Unfortunatly the limitations come from how much ios is locked and that's not gonna change anytime soon

[@bencdavis]

Tbh this is less to do with Apple and more to do with Google trying to strong-arm its own codec on the world. The internet relies on H.264 and it works great. H.265 is the successor and is stupidly capable. Most hardware manufacturers, including Apple, now support hardware acceleration for H.265. The world has chosen it's next-gen codec. VP9 is Google's own thing, isn't even a final spec, isn't well supported by hardware manufacturers, yet is the only codec they use to support KZbin 4K. Believe me, Google will change and support H.265 eventually.

[@purpletomato5535]

Leonardo Oliveira how do you expect to have 4K KZbin vids on a non 4K screen?

[@FrStProductions]

Yeah the hardware is useless if the software doesn’t let you use it. That’s the problem with that fancy chrome book google made a while back

[@jalene150]

Purpletomato 55 maybe I’m wrong about this but wouldn’t videos still look a lot better since they are capped at 1080p. The iPad might not have 4K, but it is still more capable than a 4K resolution (261 ppi)

[@artlopez174]

One of the best reviews I have seen in a long time. The review was detailed, realistic, and simple to understand. Thanks!

[@micah_monte88]

love the honesty

[@htruth1785]

Probably one of the best product reviews I’ve watched on KZbin.

[@thatlebleh]

For sure. Easily

[@vukasika]

Great & honest review. Sounds to me like the USB C issue is a software issue. I wouldn’t be surprised if the next update to iOS addressed that. My gut is that Apple locked that feature to avoid harming the sales numbers of the larger capacity iPads.

[@mattjarrett7231]

Sounds like a really typical thing that Apple would do.

[@cameronbosch1213]

It did get fixed! Check out iPadOS 13!

[@HoustonHeartStopper]

USB-C?! *plugs it in Nintendo Switch dock*

[@ninjabaconpro144]

Gets 1 like

[@diegovides6543]

I love your reviews! You always knock it out of the park! The verge production team is simply unparalleled

[@KaylanNaidu]

Can't wait to play the most hyped game ever on it: Diablo Immortal

[@heiroPhantom]

🤢🤮😵

[@Angultra]

Hope you have another $2200 for IAP

[@CrucialConflict.]

GGWP , lol a mobile game on 800plus bucks device running a mobile os, not bad! xD

[@Darkho1y]

Haha you did the joke. EA BAD ANYONE?

[@mainsonjeff9906]

Top

[@abelsenarega1599]

The bezels are the perfect size. You need somewhere to put fingers and grab the device. Apple was obviously capable of making them slimmer. Its merely a design choice

[@Angultra]

Well they could’ve shrunk it a bit and put in a notch, but I’m happy they didn’t.

[@samuvisser]

Wait till the next iPad will have much much thinner bezels. It will happen, I promise

[@jaisonfan5426]

Samuël Visser i doubt that.

[@davidjuneja]

Then, what is edge to edge?

[@MrMohshehab]

Samuël Visser the next one will just be specs upgrade , i expect the one after the next one to have less bezels & I'm sure of it . And this one with the thick bezels will feel very old .. this is just Apple's way of selling as many devices as they can .

[@TheDangalman]

Great content! This is definitely one of the most articulate reviews you guys have done! Thank you, The Verge!

[@berndkiltz]

Thanks for that very well made review. You got the limitation right on spot, keeping my macbook and old ipadair2 :)

[@gutacount]

Great review! ;)

[@magnakid]

Apple doesn’t want you to replace your laptop with its iPads. They know what they’re doing. They saw that when they created the iPhone and put iTunes in it, it made the iPod Classic dispensable. So why would they create a tablet that can be full functioning and do everything your laptop can? That would just make their laptops obsolete.. and they’re not ready to see people not buy their laptops anymore.

[@bilals6227]

magnakid tablets are good for artists

[@ValJedi]

Not talking about replacing professional solutions such as macbook pros, obviously professional musicians, editors etc will stick to those cuz of the ecosystem and processing power... but come on, calling a device a pro solution and not allowing external storage to be hooked up?! not talking about touch screen which already limits professional applications of the device...

[@elliemay1748]

There's actually nothing about the iPad that is holding it back from replacing a laptop for most people. Only the software is the limiting factor. Developers aren't pouring enough resources into it yet. The desktop app killers are limited.

[@stefanguy]

Great review. Did you try the Maschine MK3 in MIDI mode?

[@johnyvds2331]

this guy gives one of the most robust and complete review of a tech product on all of youtube. Well inormed, Well paced and overall a fanatstic reviewer!! keep it up man, love the reviews

[@AlgoCurioso4]

11:21 "iPad mini from early 2018" I'm confused 😕

[@brycechapman5529]

EnNombreDeLaCiencia ! And HOW was he using Apple Pencil on iPad mini?

[@duhbiyung]

@@brycechapman5529 nope i believe thats regular iPad 2018

[@Matt.Netherlands]

trust

[@abubakrakram6208]

EnNombreDeLaCiencia ! Likely an iPad Mini 4 (released 2015) that he bought in 2018 (Apple still sells them). I think we was just talking about smoothness, not the Pencil.

[@Matt.Netherlands]

It can't be because he was using an Apple Pencil and the display was the same size as a 9.7 inch iPad @@abubakrakram6208

[@KicstarV]

This is the best iPad pro review yet! Great job covering all my concerns

[@fiatmultiplaa]

Buy me one

[@Spazza42]

Well, iPadOS will fix most of these gripes

[@lukesuperflyjones]

thinkin the saaaaaame thing

[@AKmusic893]

Ya

[@DANIELHWANG1]

Very true. 👌🏼

[@perre6385]

Still can’t run adobe flash so it will never or compete with a laptop

[@abhishekshah170]

flash is gonna discontinue soon

[@ilija4510]

Love the review, but the party light 😂 loving the lights

[@01rai01]

Fantastic review Apple will never allow the ipads to replace the laptops (by restricting iOS), cause then people would have no reason to buy macbooks.

[@Boxhead42]

All of this is baffling to me , because the iPad pro's pricing are now rivaling the macbooks. So what difference does it make if they cannibalize the macbooks?

[@funnycrow4462]

rai ZOR no that’s what Apple wants to achieve, someday their going to wanna make a product that replaces the iPhone

[@adamek9750]

you kinda need both tbh. One does what the other cant.

[@hershfam]

If they used Mac OS instead of iOS iPad could replace it rn

[@erlendhamre]

This is all just a part of Apples long term strategy of going more and more mobile, and eventually killing off their own desktops and laptops. Look up “the grand theory of Apple” by Polymatter

[@ReubenMRU]

This is the most honest review I watched and I was thrilled that you put online EVERYTHING THAT BOTHERS ME ABOUT THIS TABLET... I have the Ipad pro 10.5 and I edit videos on it and when I travel, I can't leave my laptop behind because it can't handle my cameras - can't download images, doesn't have a proper file system... and I'm a photographer/videographer/drone operator, I need that capability... Now my laptop isn't powerful enough to edit 4k at 50 fps - so I need the Ipad pro - which I also need to fly my drone, other wise I would just dump it and travel with just my laptop... The opposite however isn't anywhere close to possible... So i need to travel with both - and that's frigg'in annoying!

[@Dare2Blink]

Why don´t you just get a surface pro 6?

[@ReubenMRU]

@@Dare2Blink ah, but can't use that with the drone either, needs either Android or IOS

[@Dare2Blink]

@@ReubenMRU seriously uau that is lame. Though they had Windows versions as well, same way Canon does.

[@ReubenMRU]

Yes completely :/

[@shabinthegreat]

Both => Twice Profit (for Apple) = Twice Loss (for you)

[@geisteswissenschaft]

Where does the pencil go when the case is on and closed? Can I still cover up the front camera, or will faceID not work?

[@robotechfans]

"it's more expensive than my laptop" "I should love it....."

[@manpreetgill8507]

Nice one bro

[@sheepaxer1348]

Liquid retina actually means LCD screen with INSANE pixel masking in order to make the corners any shape you want... This is actually very impressive !

[@fred364f]

Why is it impressive? A lot of other manufacturers already have this technology? Take Samsung as an example. But then again Apple will be most innovative company when they invent the curved display in a couple of years.

[@lilcheaty]

@@fred364f not for LCDs they don't

[@vivekbhagat5828]

My 150$ phone has rounded ips display that means my phone liquid ratina😂🤣 Your logic

[@kjczashiba4830]

Vivek Bhagat seems you have issue in reading

[@phillipjames453]

They used to call it "Stunning Retina Display".

[@iMaajid]

The Verge is absolute brilliance. If I were to nitpick, however, I would say get sharper glass for your camera and do 4K consistently. The cinematography is on point, though. Keep up the good work!

[@user-kv2fh3wj1l]

I really like the way you illustrate the experience of using the new iPad Pro. Not getting lost in that cool appearance but thinking about what a user really needs👍

[@aaron.doodle1314]

Surprised to see Dami Lee! Love her humor and comics 😀😂

[@tanmayk2019]

Amazing video nilay😎

[@dog8438]

Really nice iPad but I definitely think 1TB is overkill if you're restricted to iOS.

[@kafkaspen]

Noah, but remember the iOS will change over time. The iOS we have today is quite different from 2007’s version. I’m sure on 2-3 years ie. well within the lifecycle of the new iPad Pro that iOS will have made significant strides.

[@Yddp3307]

@@kafkaspen by that time it will probably lag, and it's apple to tell you get a new ipads, no matter how powerful it is apple has the magic to slow it down somehow, you will definitely need an upgrade

[@eatcarpet]

It's probably for illustrators.

[@BrodyLando]

I agree. I am wondering what you are doing on your iPad that takes up 1tb of storage. I thought the same thing with the note 9 but I think samsung wanted it towards youtubers to be able to record videos since videos do take up more space. So I dont think a youtuber will haul a iPad pro around to record videos lol so just wondering what you would use 1TB. I did hear that they are trying to get adobe to work on this. That could take up some space but again not that much. I dont know I think it is an overkill as well.

[@eatcarpet]

@@neiotik Probably the 120Mhz touchscreen and the pen is better and more responsive. It would be like people getting the iPad for MS Office.

[@JerryBluhm]

My comment re your UPDATE on the new iPad pro is thank you! I am on the verge on buying one and have been doing tons of research on iPad Pro vs laptop. This update has given me a totally new perspective on why I should purchase an iPad Pro. Good job! Thank you

[@Yudelee]

Anyone knows how to use VGA and 3.5mm at the same time? Thanks alot

[@Spartiosh]

Personal Opinion but for the price I’d rather get a full Windows laptop that has a proper dedicated graphics card. I feel like that’d be a much better device for video & photo editing, music production and gaming. Personal thoughts though.

[@benjamin7114]

Anyone who replaces their laptop for an Ipad probably never needed a laptop in the first place .

[@dany19991]

@@benjamin7114 That sums it up nicely.

[@sakitperut123]

People buy this for the pen mostly artists... Its better than surface

[@upthinker2336]

In my opinion iPad Pro only makes sense if you are an artist or/and you want to use it for photo editing.

[@user-db4di7dh6g]

@@sakitperut123 why? surface pro 2017 pen and apple pencil have the same latency now.

[@foopiez]

*Me* : tries to plug in portable SSD 🐶 *Apple* : NO! Bad poor person! BAD! 😤

[@zebo2878]

Chris hopefully some day they will make an OS exclusively for iPad. I think iOS is focused on security and privacy that they will not allow that. A boy can dream.

[@userjff182]

I can picture your iPad had a whip when you do that.

[@GamingMan247]

I’m thinking of upgrading from my 9.7 inch iPad pro to either the 11 inch or the 12.9 inch. Which would be more recommendable?

[@moritzschroder]

i mostly use my macbook pro for editing my video content, so i will stick to that. i doubt that i will ever be able to do that well on an iPad...

[@jocelynsmith4315]

Wolkify couldn't you connect a mouse and use imovie or final cut pro? along with the smart keyboard? if you had the highest storage / some sort of external storage device?

[@cameronbosch1213]

jocelyn smith You can now, but not before.

[@gokhalesh1]

No It can't replace your laptop . But it's the best Tablet you can get .

[@bobbyright2010]

But who is buying the laptops anymore?

[@Unan1mouz]

@@bobbyright2010 People who do serious work obviously... Duh

[@sayoojsurendran496]

@@bobbyright2010 like everyone? duh!

[@bobbyright2010]

Sayooj Surendran Well then explain why mobile is now the dominant iOS? Please.

[@di-lp4mq]

Tech reviewers and apple needs to understand that 'PRO' exists outside of just video editing and paint. Workflow for engineers, software developers, data scientist or just university students in general also exist and should be considered. That is why I think ChromeOS is the only 'pro' device alternative to Macs and Windows desktop OS. With linux app support you can do all your data analysis natively , write your paper with proper citation manager (mendeley with libreoffice) without using your Windows or macs.

[@MichaelGGarry]

The first half of what you wrote could have been copy and pasted from my posts we agree so much. The ChromOS bit - well, I'm not so sold on that! But then my field of development would not work on it at all, so.....

[@mpstudies]

Let me know when you can run VS Code or Eclipse on ChromeOS without these IDEs being treated like compromised after-thoughts.

[@MichaelGGarry]

Or Visual Studio.....

[@skylark6167]

Rather than saying chrome os is suitable for professionals because linux, it might be better to say linux is suitable for professionals. As far as I can tell, linux applications on chrome is still a bit hacky, and only on certain hardware, whereas most linux distributions will run on pretty much anything.

[@elitestar]

Richard Du it isn't even suitable for video professionals

[@jimmorgan7140]

Great review. Nice to hear some honesty about the software limitations holding back such impressive hardware.

[@anelesevahan359]

I wish to use this iPad pro for school work and drawing. Would this be good for school work such as, Google classroom, Google docs, Google slides, etc?

[@chathura9967]

I love iPads but I reckon iOS is the only limiting factor

[@trentbosnic]

Same here, I really want one of these iPads, but I cannot justify $1000 on what I know will just be a KZbin player.... that can't play in 4k. There's honestly no reason for anyone to buy the spec'd up iPad unless you like throwing money away for shiny things.

[@shadmansudipto7287]

Yeah the hardware is good but ios is useless even compared to android, even more so compared to windows.

[@nosleep1870]

MAC OS is also useless compared to Windows

[@anharun]

@@trentbosnic with Windows or even Linux, it's no limitation ever

[@daniellove162]

Apple doesnt think you are adult enough to handle a real file structure.

[@wyzemann]

There's nothing wrong with PAYING for the smart device of your choosing. Whether it's made by Apple, Google or MS. It's absolutely senseless to berate a device because the person standing right next to you hates it or worships it. Buy and like what you find affordable and reliable!

[@circuitrecordings6854]

Exactly! its almost as if people are nitpicking just for the sake of it. If it's not for you move on, that simple!

[@GreatMotherofThree]

This is a very good, comprehensive, useful review. I really appreciate it and I’m glad I discovered you folks. I don’t feel the need to look at any other reviews. Every single consideration was objectively addressed here.

[@PaddyP538]

Fantastic Review! You covered all the important points and questions I wanted to learn about. Thank you.

[@Blaa_Boi]

Can it replace your laptop? The answer is NO. The only thing that has excited me about the iPad Pro is the fact it uses USB-C and having no notch while having FaceID. The rest is the same old really.

[@aswinottapilavil495]

@@PetrFlosman well, then those people aren't using their laptop to it's potential. If you want a laptop to browse and watch videos iPad pro is definitely a replacement. But a lot of other cheaper tablets are too.even chromebooks

[@Canal10000]

@@PetrFlosman The thing is that the iPad Pro is so overpriced. You can get much stronger, while cheaper devices, than the iPad Pro without the need of being limited by the iOS. Honestly, I think all of the latest Apple products have been overpriced, and while they are good, they are not good enough to cover the expensive price

[@leonkastilyo7463]

the answer depends on what the user needs. for example: if the user needs powerful software that doesn’t have an app equivalent then no; but for me who will use it for art then yes, of course there are tablet/laptop that are cheaper out there like the surface pro 6 but artwise apple pencil is better. and now there’s going to be a photoshop app. this ipad is significantly cheaper than the wacom mobilestudio (the best in the art pen display computer).

[@wyzemann]

@@aswinottapilavil495 Your phrase "a lot of other cheaper tablets" is exactly why Ipad brand is preferred by most. There are plenty of times when cheaper is just not good enough.

[@Canal10000]

I just wish that Apple would make their iOS more open. Apple trying to control your use of the product is really annoying and monopoly like

[@binary010101]

Wow Nilay and the Verge team! Great stuff! That's how reviews should be done. Looking past the marketing glitz, really exploring the use cases and asking the right questions that an average consumer might not ask. Absolutely loved the headline on Verge "THE FASTEST IPAD IS STILL AN IPAD" - that summed it up really well. You might have saved many people (including me) from buying an overpowered video and browsing device at 2 to 4 times the price of non-pro iPad. Agree it would be very useful for someone who draws a lot. However, they keep touting photoshop example - seriously how many average users pay and use Adobe photoshop? And I highly doubt that any serious video/photo professional would use an iPad on a regular basis - imagine sacrificing precision of mouse pointer, imagine use cases when one has to hold a button on keyboard and drag mouse pointer while looking at pixels on a giant monitor. Even though one can plug new ipad pro to a monitor, one will still have to look at the ipad (not the monitor) while making adjustments with finger/pencil. This is like selling a new wheelchair which looks beautiful, has Tesla drivetrain and costs much more than an normal electric wheelchair. Sure the new one can go really fast - but would you really on a day to day basis?

[@scotthill5139]

Really need my Ipad Pro to run Excel calculators like me Macbook Pro . I use Office 365, but can't seem to get my calculator out of read only mode ... Suggestions ? Trying to lighten up my travel load with IPad Pro but really need my calculators with Excel

[@bubblegum56756]

Always love watching you review videos. Honest and informative thank you

[@choboutube]

The issue with trying to use the iPad (pro) as a laptop is the software not the hardware. I have the (now) last gen 10.5 that I bought to use with procreate for drawings which it did very well. Thereafter I tried my best to make more use of it, but the file system/ Files app is absolutely terrible.

[@SagarRT]

How's that iPad even a Pro, if we cannot connect a flash drive with that USB-C port?

[@izoyt]

that's what i saying all the time.

[@jonisin5498]

exactly, it need iOS PRO edition .

[@tehsin13]

Pro is shorten of procratination

[@dragontechroyale4k447]

Sagar Tayde it can. Just download an app. And why would you use flash drives when you can just use iCloud or google drive?

[@Mnour94]

DragonTechRoyale4k because maybe not everyone have fast internet connection available all the time? u don’t make sense or if so why are we keeping USB drive support in laptops too?

[@imconfused9004]

dude you broke this review!! and i love it!

[@TheFozzir]

Great review! I agree, Ipad's are the best tablets out there and the Ipad Pro 2018 is the best there is but it will never replace a laptop.

[@cadenza23]

Luckily it sounds like many of these problems can be addressed via software, so if Apple's listening, maybe we'll get some of this functionality in iOS 13

[@sahhill1910]

Keep dreaming. These are forced software limitations so people buy Macbooks. As long as iPads use iOS, you'll never see them as functional as their laptops.

[@cadenza23]

Sahil M I wouldn't be so sure. I see a future where MacBooks don't exist and are replaced entirely by iPads. I firmly believe this is the direction Apple is working towards. Why make this iPad such a powerhouse if not? They just need time.

[@JB_Hobbies]

Don't hold your breath.

[@DudditsJoeFinemusic]

Bwahahahahaha...Like they did with the AntennaGate ??? And the faulty data cables for HDD on MacBooks??? :-)))

[@roccobot]

more likely in iOS 25

[@sseese]

In typical Apple fashion the limitations of this device are not a function of technology, but the intentions of marketing.

[@tommyjudd81]

One Example of Capitalism isn't suiting Humanity. Capitalism kills Everythings.

[@abubakrakram6208]

See, I think people use “marketing” as a catch-all phrase for any sleazy business tactic used by any company. That’s not what the word means. Apple’s decision to limit the device to push people to buy a MacBook is a sales-tactic, not marketing. It might be a frustrating, greed-inspired sales tactic, but that doesn’t somehow change it to marketing.

[@chosenone4673]

Love your videos, transitions and story telling, music and cover all points in basic terminology.

[@chelsea1439]

I have the first ever iPad Mini and I’ve been looking for a replacement for a while now. Would you recommend buying the new iPad Pro? Is it worth the money or should I just buy a laptop

[@amosbatto3051]

It totally depends on what you want to do with the device. If you just want a tablet and you don't mind the high price, then this might be worth it. If you want a laptop replacement, then this probably will disappoint you, but it depends on how you use your laptop. Note: I don't buy Apple products due to the price and their promotion of planned obsolescence, but my experience with the Galaxy Note 10.1 is that I constantly run into limitations with the software, where it can't replace my laptop, and this review says that same thing happens with the iPad Pro.

[@TheVerge]

Would you pay these prices to for the new iPad Pro?

[@vineetyadav6389]

no way. bad product.

[@alwaleedalqahtani4225]

For something that updates every year? No thanks I’m not insane

[@John12345639]

I got a ipad pro 10.5 inch from mocrocenter for 450$ its a better value than this one

[@TheiPhoneXL]

If only it had an OLED Display

[@devicechannel7719]

No way

[@lylyluvda916]

I feel ios keeps the iPad pro line from its full potential. Let it run Mac OS X and it would give the surface pro a run for its money. Or perhaps, it would give Microsoft Xbox a run for its money if it could play big title games. Until then, the iPad pro line is just a bigger iPad that supports a stylus and allows for keyboards to connect differently.

[@salvadorquincy4599]

Well said

[@hajekjonas]

Great video! So how is it with the adobe shortcut? I have the same struggle with copying dozens of gigabytes to my camera roll, which then syncs onto my iCloud drive, which is stupid. Is there any downloadable shortcut or tutorial to make it?

[@dilanstubbins6599]

For a college student who just uses this for notes, writing essays and basic use is this fine or should one get a MacBook Pro?

[@jsd64]

It's like every year I put off buying the new iPad purely because of iOS. Just peep this, the hardware of the iPad's over the last 5 years has utterly dominated the competition whereas the OS has more or less stayed the same. Just seems like a waste and this video reaffirmed that thought.

[@jsd64]

I know this sounds like a massive cliche or whatever but I really just want to use an optimised version of macOS on this thing just to actually see if it's that terrible of an idea.

[@Hawtload]

until they make it OSX-Mobile instead of iOS, it's going to be a really expensive phone. I have the 2017 iPad Pro and all I can really use it for is mobile gaming and the monitor for my drone remote.

[@wyattb3138]

Jaspreet Dhanjan, keep in mind that Apple could still change iOS for the iPad Pros

[@tmded3368]

@@Brian-jv8iy there's also no sense in locking almost everything down but apple does that. It's a choice it might be silly but it's his choice.

[@aabworld1146]

Liquid retina = Rounded corners.🤔🤔🤔WTF

[@Carolyne_games]

Well to be fair Apple did pull off some really clever engineering on the XR and the new iPad Pro to achieve the rounded corners with LCD. The name is kind of stupid but the feature itself is actually pretty cool. Wish they came up with a better name :P

[@aabworld1146]

@@Carolyne_games that's not a big thing because the Xiaomi phones with lcd display have rounded corners.

[@supertigerman013]

@@aabworld1146 With jagged edges? Well yeah, there's a reason why Apple decided to use the special naming for it.

[@aabworld1146]

@@supertigerman013 touch ID = Fingerprint scanner 3D touch = pressure sensitive screen. Face ID means face unlock Retina display means IPS LCD display App Store = play store..... ... .. .

[@randomizednamme]

They had to come up with some bs name. Imagine watching the keynote announcement and they come out with a headline feature being "It now has rounded corners!"... maybe one or two people clap. Even though it's really cool from a technical standpoint, it just doesn't have much of a wow-factor so some people in marketing probably sat around a table and asked themselves, "What is the coolest name we can come up with for an uncool feature?"

[@MrDomestosWC]

This review is an eye opener. I was thinking about replacing my mbp late 2013 with the new iPad pro. This is the only review that told me the reality, which is don't. Thank you.

[@Luzgar]

Are benchmark number from a Intel processor (X86 + operating system) comparable to those of tablet (ARM + iOS)?

[@agentp9631]

Bottom line its one hell of a tablet, and a so so computer .

[@izoyt]

nope, it is bad as tablet.

[@agentp9631]

@@izoyt disagreed

[@supertigerman013]

@@izoyt What's better than iPad Pro as a tablet then?

[@KaganTech]

This video is so essential! So objective. So true! Love it!!!

[@kascnef]

How is the Ipad pro compared to my four year old Kindle Fire HDX....i mostly use it to watch video and browse the web with a silk like browser and rarely play games on it. It's also great to browse the amazon website with the prime app too.

[@tarunrana917]

That's brutally honest! Hands down the best.

[@ruzzelladrian907]

Nilay is highlighting the issues I have with how iPad manages files. Thank you! Thank you!

[@Sundara229]

We are finally getting there.

[@FineChapGaz]

*Next:* iPad ultimate *Features:* More expensive

[@user-yk9lu2sr2r]

And you could connect 2 more fans to it and probably charge a torch.

[@Streety420]

Your hate is showing.

[@user-yk9lu2sr2r]

@@Streety420 It is not my hate, it is just a suggestion.I have the new iPad pro 11 inch ,an iPhone 8 plus and many more apple products.The joke , is on you , my friend.

[@simply6162]

Funny comment but can’t agree with that I gave u like though

[@zakrichardson4196]

Perfect review. Honest and gets to the smallest details. Well done!

[@CASMANWHAT]

I have it and it definitely makes my heart flutter. Love it.

[@user-ud7sl9qc4b]

CASMANWHAT a bit late sorry, how is Microsoft word on it. Tempted to buy one but as a uni student Microsoft word etc is realllly important and there’s not many vids on it

[@Jordan_Dossou]

@@user-ud7sl9qc4b Google docs is better

[@PS3Freak51]

Does anyone else get excited when it’s Nilay reviewing?

[@cons_]

PS3Freak51 oh yeah, he’s awesome

[@Sierra259]

Better than that other guy

[@VivicaGsy]

Cut through the night. Snip snip.

[@ThatLaloBoy]

I like him and Dieter. And Lauren before she went to Wired. Everything else is kinda meh. Not that they do a bad job, I just prefer their partner's work.

[@ThatLaloBoy]

@@VivicaGsy ah a fellow Vergecast listener. A man of culture.

[@LoverOfTech]

These limitations and also the lack of mouse input and support is always been my issue with Apple saying this is a computer. This is such an awesome video 💯

[@maciejfyrvellsikorski]

Well, I guess that's why they say that's it's "like a computer, unlike any computer" ;) They always aim for it to be a powerful tablet, not the "jack of all trades" like the Surface or Pixelbbook line, and they make it quite clear.

[@gradyleewhite]

You said Adobe wrote a Siri app that imports photos from the camera roll into Lightroom CC and then automatically deletes the imported photos from the camera roll. What is it called and ow do I get this app? I cannot find it anywhere.

[@denitzagammon2665]

I am considering the iPad for taking lectures/pp slides pictures and recording lectures. I do not need the high end of an iPad. I considered the older version but I find charging the pencil a bit ridiculous. What is your suggestion for school purposes use. I am open to any devices out there

[@aayushkala7462]

It's time for Apple to design a new OS specifically for iPad.

[@andrew_bermudez]

Amen!

[@xmark1440]

iOS 13 will be pretty huge for the iPad. According to leaks before iOS 12 even came out

[@copiryte9535]

Rounded corners? So the iPhone XR r stands for rounded?????

[@lynn.chaaaa]

R stands for R u being scammed by Apple? Yes

[@antoniolomeli7956]

R is a letter before S. iPhone XR-> iPhone XS

[@WarlordMoA]

Xtra Regular or how i like to put it Xtra Irregular

[@stefan_4508]

Antonio Lomeli I think this is it chief

[@ashlyvett]

Im a full time student and have my own brand so I need to do everything online, school work, shipping labels, print... I don’t know which one should I get!

[@001jegan]

i can use headphone adapter for 3.5mm jack cable? and we can export photos , videos & some files to memorycard using card reader?

[@morlek]

We need macOs on the ipad

[@danie7kovacs]

No thanks. iOS needs a redesign. If you want to use a mouse, macOS is a better choice but iOS + mouse is a no-no. They are optimized for different interactions.

[@izoyt]

@@danie7kovacs what is that big deal to add mouse support? it would be so much better when using keyboard and let say office package. detachable keyboard woud be great to, since many artists using key shortcuts in duel with pencil etc. this is just apple being apple, charging and locking everything, nothing else.

[@RackaApps]

@@danie7kovacs what make its not good for mouse support? They can just do a simple redesign and the mouse will be ok. Like Chrome os, it's both mouse and touch friendly

[@VarisTheHacker]

Morlek if they put macOS on the iPad. Nobody would buy a MacBook Air or even a lower end MacBook Pro. Because why get a MacBook when you can get a better computer plus touch screen.

[@Powermaster111]

Why not just buy a macbook then O.o?

[@danilmiroshnikov6130]

If u can't write code on it, it can't remove laptops from market

[@NickHobart]

i write code on mine all the time.

[@edwardhoffenheim3249]

@@NickHobartWeb clients don't count

[@NickHobart]

@@edwardhoffenheim3249 Does Terminus count?

[@edwardhoffenheim3249]

"Termius is a portable server management system that works for you in any situation" It's built for everything apparently. I haven't done full blown server programming so I'm not too sure of those details. But from what I can tell it's remote... Soooooo sounds similar to a web client. That workaround doesn't change the huge list of limitations on iOS.

[@NickHobart]

@@edwardhoffenheim3249 There's also Coda from Panic... All i'm saying is there are solution out there that work for professionals. They may not be exactly what I want but they get the job done.

[@misbahulzannatfabiha9458]

Great review. A lot of useful information in a short time. Keep it up

[@josephhollandpontes1030]

Dang this guy really showed his emotions ups and downs everything a review should be that was the best one I sincerely ever watched.