NEW iPhone SE 4 - Rumors & What to Expect!

[@Aggouric]

If Apple recycled the 13 mini, removed a camera, put a binned A18, and usb-c, it could be perfect and wouldn't disrupt Apple's sales

[@MikeSparksMusic]

If only 😭

[@NextGeneration9501]

i hope they would keep 429 dollar price tag or even get it lower

[@sstarsick]

ikkkk

[@james_wheelz]

i think the mini line didn’t do well because of its cost. For 429$ a mini would sell far better. As 699$ i think was just too much for the mini unless someone truly wanted the smallest screen. But having it priced at 200-300$ less then the regular non pro iphone will make more sense to buy one not just for a smaller screen. Because having it cheap for an iphone makes it more affordable which creates more demand for the device beyond just it being small

[@PWingert1966]

and marketed it to the tween's marketed as their first phone.

[@nicholasmoffett4327]

i REALLY hope they take the SE 4 as an opportunity to bring back the mini form factor, but i also really doubt they will.

[@lifeisshørt_420]

it’s not happening

[@tamwilfred]

It's possible that with the SE lineup, they are simply repurposing old parts from their inventory. If they anticipated higher sales for the mini, there could be an excess of mini components stored in a factory.

[@bertgreen8070]

One can dream… Still on my 12 mini

[@Zenguy89]

@@lifeisshørt_420you don't know, it hasn't even came out yet.

[@PWingert1966]

its actually a great form factor or tween with smaller hands and lower dexterity skills.

[@wade_says]

I had a SE 2020 but upgraded to a 13 Mini. They are my two favorite phones. I can’t imagine getting a bigger one.

[@zircoben]

Got my SE 3 on eBay for $89, works great! Wouldn’t pay a dime more

[@N3tigen]

$89 can't believe how is condition It's dope bro cos whatever it's is it's still have a15 flagship

[@zircoben]

@@N3tigen It's in bad shape, it's not paid off and locked to AT&T, but it works!

[@zircoben]

@@Leah-ju8ht no it works great! I use it with AT&T. daily driven it for a couple months now

[@Bazzi69]

@@zircobenis at&t bad? Im not American but im interested in knowing why people usually dunk on it so much

[@zircoben]

@@Bazzi69 It isn't as good as Verizon or Tmobile - but it works well in rural areas! I wouldn't recommend it though.

[@pokepokepoke64]

my perfect iphone se 4 would be an iphone 13 mini with an iphone 16 processor and usb c but I think it will be like a normal iphone 14 with usb c and a newer processor.

[@9852323]

Prefer lightning but i know that’s not going to happen thanks to the EU.

[@i.f.7386]

Apple should add constructor option on the website and build custom phones prototypes before creating a new version. unfortunately they have no idea what people need ( I mean we need mini) 🤔

[@Kingcommaalex]

I work at apple and I absolutely hate selling this phone to people and also that it’s the only phone that doesn’t use MagSafe so we gotta wrap the cables at the end of the night. I can’t wait for the SE4 it’s very exciting

[@Camacho1]

Should i switch from iphone 13 mini to the se 4 now that its coming out, would it be a upgrade? My battery life is horrible on my phone and its getting unbearable

[@eddwardmusic]

All I really want is another iPhone mini :(

[@ChezTechGuy]

The iPhone SE3 looks so sad tbh

[@paulharrison8379]

The saddest thing about the iPhone SE 2022 is the fact that the Google and Samsung phones that are at its price point have nicer and larger displays. They are slightly slower but performance is not the only thing that people consider when buying a phone.

[@jayasuriyas2604]

Yes

[@lifeisshørt_420]

@@paulharrison8379at $429 the SE 3 isn’t worth it but at a reduced price from around $50-$150 it’s an absolute steal

[@_Cookie_Warrior_]

@@paulharrison8379 yea but they are not same size

[@LiThePear]

SE 3 has always been bad

[@seapanda-117]

SE 4 should have the 13 mini form factor. Single 48mp sensor. Usb c. Notch is realistic. it would be great at $400.

[@alec_online]

I just got an SE 3 to use as a secondary/less distracting phone… for $70 on marketplace. It’s a great piece of usable nostalgia if you can get it for cheap!

[@lilzuplada1564]

They should make the screen 5.8” to 5.9” to replace the mini in their lineup. While at it, use LCD to have an alternative to oleds. Older people would love this

[@fullbass1426]

The 5.8 size of the x/xs/11 is a better size than the minis 5.4. Theres more space for a bigger battery too.

[@jeffersonmp4]

Hopefully comes with 128gb and not 64gb as base model.

[@cjeelde]

Probably 64 GB as base model. The way to cut cost and price. There will be options for 128 and 256 GB also. Probably not 512 GB. This is how they do to make more money.

[@ahfa2010]

It’s an SE.

[@artinsahakyan]

I think they are going to reintroduce the "Mini iPhone" back as a SE variant. Makes more sense, since they usually opt out for a smaller form factor for the SE phones.

[@JF-wp2rz]

I would love that 😍

[@reegancp]

Yes

[@fuwiaa]

Probably not happening

[@carlwheezer1544]

should use the iphone 13 mini housing imo

[@naraydaniels7832]

What about a 13 mini housing and replace the second camera with a Lidar sensor

[@ahfa2010]

@@naraydaniels7832No. Not even base models have a lidar censor

[@bertgreen8070]

I know Apple won’t, but I’d love the mini chassis to return. The 12 mini is the only reason I came back to iPhone, and will happily hold onto it until it dies if they don’t make a new one!

[@LedNe0nDevil]

@@bertgreen8070 Good, and when it does, change the battery, and you get another lifetime!

[@BladeoftheImmortal2005]

They don't lower prices, but sales are available all the time.

[@UmairLad]

I’m using a SE 2, if the SE 4 comes out i’m getting it ASAP

[@user-hs9ju6jf2q]

Keeping a close eye on this release, if it's actually happening and not just a test device for their 5g modems... Unless they do something really stupid this will be the device that moves me back from Android. I'm not willing to pay the ridiculous prices of the other models.

[@maxonite]

My SE2 battery is hanging by a thread, this better come out soon 💀

[@LedNe0nDevil]

@@maxonite change the battery? ifixit, it's basic.

[@Zeptus1488]

@@LedNe0nDevilNah he wants a new phone, I'd do the same and wait for the next one.

[@maxonite]

@@LedNe0nDevil I already replaced it once. Im not gonna pay for a 2nd one, not worth it atp

[@YISTECH]

I love small phones. I always owned big phones, currently S22 Ultra, but yeah small phones are great. I had the 4, 5s and 1st gen SE. Great phones. I might have big hands but something about the small form factor just screams "phone".

[@jacobrzeszewski6527]

I know it's unlikely but I thought the iPhone SE4 would be based on the Xr. Even at the time the Xr was good value for what it was. I'm on a Samsung A54 rn due to life circumstances, but I'm itching to get back to the fruit. But not for $500+. Used us also an option.

[@TheCrazyChickenProductions]

If the SE 4 has the mini size (5.4”) I will be happy :)

[@shhhshhhnow7925]

I have a 13mini great phone but think the 5.8 would be the perfect size

[@TheCrazyChickenProductions]

@@shhhshhhnow7925 👍

[@just_mdd4]

"It'll be an XR" people say, even though it'll have a chassis nearly congruent to the iPhone 14.

[@PWingert1966]

The SE iPhone is what we got our tweens as their first phone. It's affordable and a great device for 12- and 13-year-old to have as their first communications and internet device. In our house when a child graduates from high school, we buy them an iPhone Pro providing they have at least a B average. if they don't obtain that average, they are expected to purchase their own cell phone and return the SE to us. This is a great motivator for most children. Given the new restrictions on cell phones being available in school we only allow our children to have them before school or when they have returned home. They are not allowed to have them at home. If there is an emergency the school's office is called and the message is relayed to the child.

[@Luma_29]

I think the only reason they haven’t updated the current SE is solely due to the fact that technically the A15 haven’t been cut from the lineup yet. Once the iPhone 14 series goes, the SE will probably adopt the iPhone 16 chip and then Apple will do the same song and dance where they forget about it for 3-4 years

[@dnte_]

i doubt it will be this good.. i think it will just be an iPhone XR with usbc and a new chip

[@ProtectusCZ]

Xr has been out of production for years. Apple is gonna use spare parts that are currently available - so it should have the iPhone 13 and newer design with single cam.

[@Kingcommaalex]

I think they’ll use the 13 mini chassis

[@TouristAarchie]

@@Kingcommaalex nop

[@johnathanblade1]

I doubt that it will have an LCD screen.

[@tylermelton2467]

​@@KingcommaalexI wish they would, but they'll probably just replace the 14 with the SE 4

[@itsAlzatron]

Imo, the SE should take over the Mini series and adopt the same dimensions as the 12/13 Mini. Sure, a more premium Mini device would be a lot better but it does make sense, especially if they only refresh the SE lineup every few years as opposed to every year. The first SE used the body of the iPhone 5S and as far as I'm aware, that sold like hot cakes at the time.

[@jordannels9899]

They should just hire you to make the SE4 since you get it. This is what people want and its what makes sense as well

[@97nelsn]

There are people holding on to their 12 and 13 mini and making the iPhone SE 4 a 5.4 inch display would help drive sales from existing 12 and 13 mini owners. Granted there’s no ultra wide camera but I’m sure people will mind the sacrifice of an ultra wide camera for a smaller iPhone with modern internals and better battery life.

[@weightycarlos]

Give people the option to have a normal sized iPhone, and not a phablet. Let the SE 4 have the mini body.

[@jejunamja]

All of us iPhone 13 mini users are really hoping they bring back some kind of a smaller phone even a 5.8 inch phone would be great but it's probably not going to happen so I guess I'll be keeping my iphone 13 mini for a bit longer.

[@LedNe0nDevil]

@@jejunamja Why only a bit? that's a very recent phone. That should last you ages.

[@jejunamja]

@@LedNe0nDevil yeah you're right the 13 mini should last many years more maybe my concept of what a bit longer means is off . I'm thinking another 2 or 3 years ... writing was never my strength... have a great day

[@LedNe0nDevil]

@@jejunamja hope it stays with you for 8 more years and beyond. Changing an aging battery when needed, is basic with ifixit, and iPhones are the simplest devices to replace! I hope you grow attached to your 13 and treasure it, because it can output some amazing performance, but most phone chips never see usage. Don't get enticed into getting a newer one with more gimmicks, when yours already serves you perfectly! And the money... you can save! Personally, I only consider the 200-300$$$ range. Which is already a lot for a phone !! But if kept for long, it serves its purpose I conclude. Good day Sir!

[@ashjcoronado]

I really doubt it will get the iPhone 15 main 48mp sensor knowing how cheap Apple is with this line and considering that the the current and past generation of iPhone SE’s have stuck to the iPhone 8 sensor, the most I see it getting is the iPhone 13 Pro’s main sensor which the exact same the 14 uses.

[@bobi7152]

What Apple should have done is release the SE3 in the chassis of the xr, and then the SE4 in the 13 mini. This way it will justify the „Special Edition“ name much better - reviving a popular/iconic design for which they already have the production capabilities.

[@iPhoneOS_]

I love the SE 3 regardless of what everyone says. I got mine a year ago for 200$ which was a steal for the performance it has. It does everything you need a phone to do and it just works

[@azn1011]

i got the SE 3 for 200 bucks over a year ago. great deal and i love it

[@aruce9]

I think the mini form factor suits the SE4 well as Apple lacks a mini sized iPhone with the form factor similar to the OG SE/5S.

[@char7490]

So the new SE is just gonna be a rehashed XR

[@91Tech]

Sorta? But better honestly

[@brendanfr]

more like a 14

[@MikeSparksMusic]

I feel like it they would want it to have squared off edges so probably more like a 12/13/14 recycled.

[@DSTimelapseHD]

Back in early 2023, I bought an unlocked, refurbished iPhone SE 2nd gen for $175. I love it!. It's nice n small, performs just fine and the battery is (usually) fine. Also because it's unlocked, I was able to purchase a Tesco eSIM when I went on holiday to the UK so that I had mobile data!

[@matthewjones5951]

I think the se4 needs to be basically be a Xr mini. There’s still a market for smaller phones, and I’m pretty sure it overlaps with the market for cheaper phones

[@mattybraps7620]

At least this iPhone isn’t like the iPod touch which didn’t even have Touch ID and the iPhone 4S-6 camera

[@hotsauce1176]

I agree with you on everything but the notch. My money is in the dynamic island.

[@Sach6251]

I think they should give two cameras with the XR/XS/11 type modules if they want to keep the less fashionable/less premium design. We get extra camera and they keep the old design everyone is a winner.💯

[@Zenguy89]

The xs was a nice design though, I doubt it will have two cameras.

[@fabistar2000]

The only design which would make sense for the SE4 would be the X/XS design. If not, what would it be then? 11, 12, 13 design? If they‘re going for a differen/new design it wouldn‘t be an SE but rathee something like the 5C or XR.

[@jjulian3000]

I really hope it won'tbe 6,1 inches. The se size right now is perfect!

[@davehugstrees]

There has to be a compromise somewhere. I'm thinking they'll put TouchID in the power button like on iPads, and it will have no FaceID. And maybe no action button either, if they really don't want to cannibalize sales.

[@macrochipped]

I don't think Apple is worried about cannibalizing sales for any iPhone. People who want to buy the Pro iPhones will definitely buy them regardless.

[@TazzKId]

@@macrochippedagreed. I do not see Apple using any new tactics in the next SE. so Touch ID and etc would be a no.

[@vaultboy1419]

That would increase production cost since they don't have a TouchID based power button for iPhone. But they do have a bunch of FaceID modules laying around.

[@Ariffy04]

I wish they somehow kept the home button

[@Kurdzo]

Not lowering the price every year is so sad especially if it’s supposed to be a budget iphone

[@wertywerrtyson5529]

In my country the SE3 has actually increased in price since launch. From about 520 dollars to 600 dollars. They better bring an SE4 that is good. My guess is it will be the iPhone 12 body, that may sound old and it would mean smaller battery and larger notch than if they use the 13 or 14 body but they don’t want to make it too good I think.

[@SpiderC-666]

Big battery and high solution and good enough camera are what most non tech users need.

[@redey1290]

If it's in a 12/13 mini form shell, and has USB-C, that alone would get me to consider upgrading honestly. There just isn't any "flagship" phone offered in a size below 6" with the longevity of an iPhone anymore. The S24 is real damn close imo, but it's 6.1", which is like half an inch bigger than the 13 mini. An S24e would be literally PERFECT imo, but again it just doesn't exist.

[@adamJKpunk]

I’ll take another phone in the mini form factor. Last September I “upgraded” from a 13 Mini 256 to 13 Mini 512 and I’m sitting pretty right about now.

[@tylerdarling6895]

Do we have any thought to the rumor that the phone will be the size of the iPhone 13 mini? That way it’s a little upgrade on size from the SE three but not a huge one. Also, they could use a single camera sensor and leave more room bigger battery so we have a competitive battery for 2025😊

[@Leo-gu5ml]

Excellent video. Thank you

[@NenadTrajkovic]

Most people in the world are not tech enthusiasts and don't really care about fashion and technical features... when they need a new phone, they buy what they are used to, be it the Samsung A15 or the iPhone SE... I am very happy with my iphone se 3, it's small and it do what I ask it to do

[@xianpan9037]

iPhone SE 4 could have a body from a Mini iphone

[@lmorris1953]

My 13 mini has 512 GB storage if the new SE has 512 gigabytes 8:19 storage that would be great. Does that make sense? What do you think?

[@mmrw]

Don’t know if it will but I definitely hope this happens. I kinda regret not getting the SE2 when it first came out and I’d definitely be interested in this if it does happen in the next year or so. I’ll be sad to see the home button finally gone though

[@mr.stormtroopee8693]

Looked away for a moment in the beginning and hearing "are you licking my phone" made me rewind haha

[@RobloxianX]

If apple really doesnt want an iPhone Mini form factor, just give it an XS body. That 5.8" Screen Size is still way better to hold in your hand than 6.1".

[@OUTKAST_BoxedREVIEWS_AndMORE]

Hopefully the SE4 takes on a new body of its own and make it 10inches. The bigger and thicker, the better. Let's cross our fingers!

[@singanamaladinesh5076]

i am thinking they will reintroduce iphone x or xs (5.8 inch screen with single camera along with new chip etc) as iphone se 4 if it happens it will surpasses iphone 16 and iphone 16 plus sales also

[@shanepatrick641]

I’d love to have an SE 4 in an iPhone X or XS body 😃 Hopefully they can squeeze a bigger capacity battery into it though! And improve the camera tech.

[@rustlerpete8902]

If they go with a 6.1 screen, I’ll pass, but if they go with the iPhone mini design, I’m in

[@stormyday849]

I got my iPhone SE 3 a few months back brand new for $150 and it’s somewhat unlocked now

[@paulharrison8379]

I think that the iPhone SE 4 will have a reduced performance version of the A18 with fewer CPUs and GPUs. This is because the old TSMC low yield 3nm chip making processes used to manufacture the M3 and the A16 will be scrapped by TSMC. I think that it is likely that all low end chips made by TSMC for Apple in 2025 will be be variants of the A18 and M4 with fewer CPUs and GPUs.

[@Andrushe4kanka]

yes, most likely a18 with defective cores disabled. They need to be put somewhere.

[@y87_99Firebird]

the SE needs to be what the Mini phased out to be

[@riickyworld1]

I still think that the next iPhone SE will be the iPhone XR with the latest non pro chip. It’s already edge to edge display, with one camera lens…. No need to take already existing design, like the iPhone 14, and somehow fit one camera lens.

[@Carsonnetic]

Well, they don’t make XR chassis anymore, so that would make it more expensive. The point of the IPhone SE is to use things they have, i.e. the 14 chassis, to make a cheaper phone with newer specs.

[@Ispeakfact]

Why no ultra wide cam?

[@vinci24]

They might use the iPhone mini form factor.

[@Carsonnetic]

I agree, it will be the 14 chassis. I keep seeing people saying that it will be an XR, but, they aren’t making XR chassis anymore. It would be too expensive to start a whole new production line for the iPhone SE when the IPhone 14 chassis is still currently being made. The entire point of an SE is to give you the newest features for a low price! This I s also why it will not be a 13 mini size.

[@LoganLayneOffical]

You should make a video on the iPad mini 7 when it comes out

[@CordeliaLemons]

Should’ve been the mini 😢

[@scottritcey5166]

How is it possible for the SE4 to get AI but Iphone15 doesn't? Can't see it happening

[@AzureRT456]

Yeah, especially since the 15(Plus) aren't getting it due to RAM. No way the SE4 will get 8GB, although getting the A18 is a possibility.

[@MariusRazor]

Se always got the base curent iPhone specs as base iPhone 16 has 8gb ram se should also get it

[@vaultboy1419]

@@AzureRT456 Why wouldn't it get A18 and 8gb ram? iPhone 16 has it, the SE always gets most recent specs. It's perfectly aligned with Apple mentality too, it will force a lot of people to upgrade to either 16 or new SE to get AI.

[@AzureRT456]

@@vaultboy1419 Like I said the possibility of SE4 getting A18 is real, but 8GB doesn't as the SEs were always their budget/midrange offering. And Apple shouldn't be dumb enough to give a lower priced model AI while that's their whole selling promotion of the iPhone 16s. However, I'm not an Apple nerd. So I don't know what Apple actually does so feel free to take this with a grain of salt

[@Unjogratis]

your videos are perfect to watch while eating

[@DEEZ_N4T]

Honestly they should use the 13 mini Chassis, 1 24 MP camera lens, then maybe the A16 Bionic or A17 chip would make for a decent pocket size iPhone that isn’t too overkill with performance to battery

[@AJMarraffa]

I'm planning on upgrading to the SE 4 from my iPhone 11, as long as there is a 512gb option. I've been creeping closer and closer to maxing out my 11's 256gb of storage for a couple of years. If Apple doesn't provide that option, I might have to shop somewhere else for a new phone.

[@LoganLayneOffical]

The line up should have the Pro Pro max Regular iPhone a plus model and a mini model than a se

[@sstarsick]

what if they wait for 2026 (se 10 year anniversary)

[@Blank00]

They will probably axe the 14 and 14 plus when SE comes

[@_IMNNO]

It was a 4 year gap between the SE1 and SE2. Thus, 3 years doesn’t seem all too bad.

[@UNITGJ]

I’d take a new se! I’ve a 15 pro max but want something a bit smaller.

[@すどにむ]

Well, SEs are also corporate and industrial phones, and they like suppliers keep supplying the exact same thing, especially the overall dimensions, so...

[@xruud24]

The only way i would switch back to iphone is if the new SE has 120hz panel and form factor of a 13 mini, it should also just have a dynamic island, why would they have to put the 4 year old notch back in?

[@Pietowndude]

Hopefully it's smaller but I doubt it. Introducing something 'new' with the budget phone seems counterintuitive. btw watched this video on an SE3, home button 4ever

[@AzureRT456]

Yeah. Never used any iPhone as a main phone but Touch ID sounds way better than FaceID (even though I used it myself on my mother's 15PM)

[@Zenguy89]

@@AzureRT456I like touch id better

[@turbosanjica1248]

It will have 1 camera that is 3 years old, an OLED screen that is 3 years old, Usb-C 2.0 from 2012, 60hz technology that is 10 years old, a battery that is a few years old and will last no more than 4 hours... But that's why it will have new colors that have never been seen before, a mega innovation .... Price for advanced technology $500

[@nicksbits]

If only they used the 13 mini design

[@MrBaskins2010]

just bought my granpda the SE 3 and it was strange to operate something out the box and watch it struggle

[@Zenguy89]

I have never had an issue with mine.

[@sstarsick]

they would make the se a iphone mini

[@hey_bucklebob]

It would honestly be better if this phone just replaced the 14 in the line up

[@Tryingtoexploretheworld]

I have the iPhone SE 3rd generation I don’t plan on getting another phone until iOS 27 comes out on the oldest supported iPhone at the time

[@LedNe0nDevil]

@@Tryingtoexploretheworld Lets go brother !

[@tamwilfred]

It appears that Apple tends to keep older products in stock and sell them at their original release price. I recall a situation where they were selling the M1 MacBook Air for $999 in 2022, even after the M2 MacBook Air had been released and Best Buy was selling them for $899. It seems like Apple takes advantage of customers who may not be aware of pricing and assume that the price at the Apple store is always the same.

[@GlucoseYummy]

Josh you should make a video about the first Apple Watch 10 years later

[@Dr904]

Why oh why would they make the SE4 be a 6.1 inch giant????? That makes zero sense! Apple already sells so many 6 inch phones already. The 14, 15, 16, 16 Pro. So please Apple. Make a ”mini” SE4!

[@damlwt6657]

Either following the iPhone XR screen size ratio of 6 1, or mini @ 5 4, I do agree with you.. most probably apple will use the 5 4, screen size ratio for SE 4, to add on abit on the 🔋 to 2438 amp then previous addition of 2018 amp to support with the A18 chipset that's what apple always like to do on all flagship devices, n of course they will use A18 chip for SE4, Definitely will still be in 4GB maybe up to 5GB with 128 as base 256 n 516 is the Max, as for camera will be 1 Only with basic android 48mp.. I'm waiting for the 🆕 IP SE 4 hope it will release with more than 3 colours, matte black, starlight white, gold version n either blue or green version..

[@tylercottam3274]

Am I the only one who's sad about the home button going away? I use an SE 3 as a secondary phone and I plan to keep it as long as possible

[@ashjcoronado]

Yep you are the only one, it stucked for waaaaaaaaay longer than it should’ve.

[@Zenguy89]

I like the touch id, that's one of the reasons I haven't switched.

[@Zenguy89]

@@ashjcoronadothey aren't the only one

[@RandomXboUser01]

hi love your Videos

[@91Tech]

[@bighersh14]

For apple this would be good value but it would still be outshined by midrange samsungs or Motorolas

[@melonspg3d]

Only thing that would outshine is camera and screen

[@bighersh14]

@melonspg3d idk man you can get a samsung a54 it has a better screen that has higher refresh rate and it has a way better camera.

[@TheAmazingSpiderGuy_99]

I still cannot understand why this lineup isn’t called iPhone Classic or just iPhone CE.

[@vegawolf8114]

Don’t get my wrong, the iPhone SE series is cute and all, but I’m not down grading from my 15 and I have the color that I wanted (the green one) and the case I have for it just completes the look of the phone

[@DenzelVelasquez-tb6kz]

Can't wait for it

[@berk6123]

Mini or x size would be perfect otherwise it would undercut the sales of regular iphones. Or they could give us xr with a18 and huge bezels😂

[@mesha76]

Something is puzzling me about the upcoming iPhone SE 4 If they sell it in the beginning of next year and ad Apple intelligent in it and get rid of the iPhone 14 , what they gonna do with the iPhone 15 line up and wound by this line of phone who can’t run Apple intelligence ?

[@artdogg50]

Well I and several people in the comments doubt it'll get Apple Intelligence. The IPhone 15 is almost sure to be further discounted once Apple Intelligence officially drops. Unless Apple discontinues it. I see nothing that makes me think people will choice the older design SE 4 over the newer design 15 with better hardware. I just don't see it either.

[@delta_cosmic]

iPhone Scam Edition Just buy a previous iPhone that's refurbished or used at this point.

[@just_mdd4]

What refurbished iPhone will have the A18 chip in 2025? 🧐 The iPhone 16 will be selling on Apple's website at $699 at that time, and the SE should be $499 at most. Notably, your statement is entirely valid for this current generation.

[@vaultboy1419]

New SE is about to murder every past iPhone since it will have the A18 and 8gb RAM, as well as the new main camera. Cope.

[@ahfa2010]

Or just get one from Verizon or AT&T