New Italian Motor & Lidl’s Full Power Affordable eBike? | EMBN Show 332

In this week's EMBN Show, Martyn Ashton is joined by Owen Coutts and they're looking at the new full-powered eBike you can buy from Lidl! In the rest of the show, we look at a new motor from Askoll offering a whopping 110nm of assistance, and your usual favourites including what’s locked away in the Bike Vault, some great-looking places in Cool Places and much more!
⏱ Timestamps ⏱
00:00 - Welcome Back To Another EMBN Show!
00:22 - Topic | Lidl’s Full Power eBike FISCHER MONTIS | E-EDR Updates
05:04 - News | Rotwild R.EXC
06:02 - Cool Places
08:11 - Tech Talk In Riva Del Garda | Askoll | Industry Nine
11:39 - Bike Vault
13:03 - #GETTINGSOCIAL
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[@embn]

Would you buy an eBike from your local supermarket? Share your thoughts in the comments!

[@ArkUSAbikerchick]

No! I need my local bike shop because I can’t fix all of my messes I get into! (Even though I did buy the book!) We do need to support them! If we don’t, you will massively regret it!!!

[@necroticavalon5176]

Nope. Wait for a sale, get a good one from a reputable shop.

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

@@necroticavalon5176 It is on sale, as a new model was released. Fischer is a brand from Germany. They are known for their cheaper bikes but they hired a new product manager some years ago, who is changing the productline to more quality bikes with better parts etc. The prices have going up, but the bikes are quit nice. When you live in Germany, they come to your home and repair the bikes. Since I bought a bike from them before, I tried this fully and it is just pure fun. Saw a video before from a german rider whos girlfriend bought the bike and he did 10m road gaps with this thing. If it is enough for something like this, it will handle most things.

[@scottbagley7513]

No not for me sorry only from my local bike shop!!

[@scottbagley7513]

The whyte bike in cool places looks ace what mudguards is Kevin using?? Thanks great vid again guys

[@shaundarklord]

Woo! Thanks for the “Super Nice”! Took 30 hours to wrap it in orange and black vinyl.

[@embn]

That's dedication! Totally worth it 🤘

[@necroticavalon5176]

...or just wait for a big sale. I bought a Cube Reaction Hybrid Pro 625 + head and tail light + carrier and bottle, for just over 2.6k euros too. Was going for a stand too, but they didn't have any (said they'd get them in a couple weeks). Bigger battery, better motor (Bosch Performance CX), better quality components. Normally over here (Croatia), it went for 3.1k, but the shop had a big sale going, and I pounced on it. Was lucky to get the last one they had in stock.

[@thebodaciousbing3950]

What Martin said! 💪🏼 Yes, the power stage of the e-EDR makes the race not only more interesting than the acoustic EDR , but also makes it more of a complete all around display of talent , strength and strategy!

[@mtbrider8286]

Mt. St.Helens is the volcano the erupted in Washington state back in 1980.

[@raketoped663]

Thank you

[@ZOOOTV72]

YOU YANGS MTB PARK THE BEST

[@kyleslater5245]

That power stage might be interesting to watch. I still don’t dig discovery but that’s a different issue.

[@cortarelva]

Amazing how Jose Borges never gets a mention even when he comes second or wins races. But he is there and he is taking podiums so swalow that cookie.

[@siriosstar4789]

the lidl bike will be fine for most riders that are not going to be doing Kamakazi downhills and components can always be upgraded later . however , Lidl in Germany is synonymous with lesser quality by some . For instance , my Kangal dog loved butter on her food , but she would only eat first class butter from Edeka .we tried Lidl butter and she gave us a look like ," WTF l did you really think i couldn't tell the difference ?"

[@Jamesattended2245]

Bit of a long shot.thinking of buying a second hand levo comp..is there a way to check it’s not nicked.serial number check or something. Little worried of getting scammed

[@marcopaganotto9125]

When you can get something like a Cube Hybrid 160 for £3300, I know what I'd go for. Still, it's a good price but if it was £2250, that would be a bargain.

[@plokmko0]

Xmas price of 2499 euro is my guess

[@MrMartinSchou]

> Still, it's a good price but if it was £2250, that would be a bargain. Then you should absolutely buy it, because €2,606 is £2,217.80 as I'm writing this.

[@TheAegisClaw]

​@@MrMartinSchouexcept you can't, in the UK...

[@MrMartinSchou]

​@@TheAegisClaw Why is that relevant? Someone said "it should be cheaper than X" and I pointed out that it was indeed cheaper than X.

[@plokmko0]

I'd buy the LIDL bike and put a good 160 mm fork and be perfectly happy

[@carterschichtel9678]

The perfect bike is the one you can afford.

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

I own this bike since August 2023 and this fork is way better then expected. Before you change it, try it.

[@mit1978]

😂😂try a fox...you forgot this junk fork😂

[@Benjamin_Jehne]

@@mit1978 If you need it, go for it. I have no issues with it.

[@bonzobanana1]

I could understand the appeal of a Lidl ebike if it had a Bafang motor where you can get service items and parts relatively easy to fix yourself but Brose have a poor record on reliability and its highly proprietary. Where do you take your Lidl bike in 2 years when the warranty is finished and 2 of the internal bearings need replacing etc. Surely products that are highly proprietary need proper support channels. Specialized had a huge recall on Brose motor ebikes with a huge amount of early failures including some reported first ride failures.

[@embn]

Some great points, from what we can tell Lidl is a distributer for the eBike but the company that actually make them (and probably offer warranty support) are FISCHER. With the Brose motor the we recently spoke with the eBike Motor Centre's owner Peter Collard who told us that the Brose motor was the highly serviceable and after their upgrade quite reliable as well 👍

[@bonzobanana1]

@@embn That's interesting although 'quite reliable' isn't as inspiring as just 'reliable'. Also 'their upgrade' sounds like something they have done to improve reliability. This all sounds like additional time and money to get a good motor. Let's face it if you are buying a cheap ebike from Lidl you probably aren't ready for high ongoing costs. I feel a Bafang motor is the best option for initial purchase and long term value purely because parts are available.

[@SimonBauer7]

​@@embnyou mean hightly servicable once the belt reduction inevitably snaps...no thank you, a belt isnt made for the sudden surges of load an emtb motor experiences.

[@richardkaz2336]

@@SimonBauer7 you're showing your ignorance on the subject of belt drives.

[@Canyon_Shawn]

The Bike Vault uploaded, never works for me on my iPad or iPhone 😢

[@ricardocastro1998]

Like to share some pictures, tell me how? Thanks

[@embn]

hey head to upload.embn.com - Create an account or log in, agree to t's and c's and you're away :)

[@stevozrepto5558]

Wow sellout !

[@galgtr]

My trek rail 9.8 xt 2022 have 6500 km and working great. Dont ever buy the crap bikes You see on the embn channel. Only buy the main brands in the market. No shit.

[@richardkaz2336]

The funny thing is that Lidl and Trek are in a partnership. That said I have a Trek Powerfly FS7 with12,600km on the clock and it has no problems with it's motor and the battery is still giving 99% charge. I just brought my wife a new Trek Rail 7 because of the reliability of the Bosch motor/battery. What this cheap bike gives someone who doesn't have much cash to throw at a bike a chance to enter the scene, after all my entry MTB was a Aldi/Polygon, 29er, XT 1x10, SLX hydraulic brakes, hard tail, the best $350 I ever spent.