NEW MEXICO HISTORY IN 10 MINUTES - EP 49 - MORA and LAS VEGAS, NEW MEXICO!

Join State Historian of New Mexico Robert Martinez and enjoy his series, New Mexico History in 10 Minutes! Let's go the Mora and Las Vegas New Mexico and get ready for the Americans!

[@user-tm5em4vu7u]

I drove through Nuevo Mexico in 2009, on my way to and from tejas! Such a beautiful place. I hope someday I can visit and actually see all the historical places! Such an important place in our beautiful and unique Hispanic history and culture!!

[@johnnycordova5939]

Thank you for this video series. My great-grandfather Cordova was born in Mora and later migrated to the coal-mining towns upriver from Trinidad, Colorado.

[@robmartinez7517]

Thanks for watching! Yes, my father from Mora did the same thing to Denver after WWII, the great migration out of the mountain towns of northern New Mexico to the cities for work.

[@Vjl5280]

Filipe?

[@DanEvans-yb6wk]

I taught high school English in West Texas for 36 years before moving to Colorado. We owned a place on the Moon Dance Ranch outside of Las Vegas for a few years, close to Tecolotito. A decade or more before I retired from teaching, I had the good fortune of meeting Rudolfo Anaya, and I had a wonderful conversation with him. I taught his Bless Me, Ultima every year after that, and your presentation on Mora and Las Vegas brought back many good memories. Mora is one of New Mexico's best kept secrets and I loved driving through there. And I read that Billy the Kid, after being initially incarcerated was held for a brief time in the Las Vegas jail. Robert, I intend to view every one of your presentations in the future. Though my wife and I live near Pagosa Springs on a small farm and I play guitar at night downtown, I feel that a large part of me will always be with New Mexico. I'm sure that you can understand that. Thank you greatly.

[@dobynewmann8836]

I was born in Albuquerque Nov. 12 1941 and my Parents moved to Las Vegas very shortly after I was born where I grew up till 1952. We live up on the Mesa, at that time it was known as the Story lake project. It is now called the Las Vegas Wild Life Refuge. We then moved 12 miles south of Las Vegas near a small settlement (Village) we knew as Gabaldon. The house we lived in Burned down. I have many fond memories of those times and would like to hear from some one from that time and area. I am now 82 years old many of my friends were of Mexican decent and we had many great times and adventures growing up.

[@5643437]

Both my father and mother were from Mora. My father's family lived in town and my mother's family lived in El Alto. Great memories.

[@ArmyVet59]

Leduex, Rociada ,Meastas canyon is where our Martinez family came from but grew up in Vegas. I've bailed hay taken cows up to the high county. Sold x- mas trees fire wood and drove a bus to the fires There are so many memories Sam from Vegas but lives in Vegas NV

[@jeradf9734]

My father is from Mora he is a Maestas/Fresques and my Mother is from Las Vegas NM she is a Vigil/ Padilla …. Great video didn’t know we shared that in common your fathers from mora and mother is from Las Vegas just like me! 👍🏽

[@EdLovatoTV]

Wow great video. I descend from relatives with all of those names and from those same places. My great great grandpa was named Felipe Lovato too. Thanks for making your videos!

[@newsandviews4595]

Some of the palces he noted are some of the oldest continual Euopeaan setttled towns and cities in the entire USA. Before there was Jamestown or Roankoke of the Pilgrims there was this...... So glad you are doing this now. I told you ppl would love to see and hear this!! Keep it up!

[@veronicaross8362]

Thank you for the great video. My great grandparents lived in Las Vegas just off the Plaza on Gonzales. My family was also from Holman and Rainsville. Never has 10 minutes gone by so quickly.

[@veejaymexico4840]

I grew up in Rainsville and attended Mora High in the in the middle 1940's....My great Grandfather was Julian Rains, first Postmaster in El Coyote, NM. thank you for a great video! I could have had an hour or two!

[@jaimejaimeChannel]

Very ineresting - thank you.

[@guillermoprado5664]

Hola Roby, no se si me recuerdas soy de Mexico, hace muchos años como 40, mi familia y yo fuimos a visitarlos, mi tío Jorge Peguero conoció a tu hermana Deby, por un intercambio, me dio mucho gusto volver a verte después de tanto tiempo..!

[@robmartinez7517]

Si, me acuerdo! Que gusto, tengo muchas memorias buenas de los Pegueros en el D.F.! Mi hermana Debbie se murio hace 14 anos pasado. Saludos a toda la familia!

[@CarlTMontano]

Thank you for the video I didn't know that about La Cueva my uncle was a mechanic there in mora

[@christinamorales6887]

Watching from Monterey Bay, California and I lived in Santa Fe and Espanola but was born in Colorado.

[@lishamontoya5013]

My family from Mora it a beautiful place.

[@MLT1998]

My grandpa is from Mora, he lived in Cleveland. Then moved to Albuquerque.

[@platinumoregon1148]

The mis-named U.S. Mexican War was actually an opportunistic land grab by Kearney, who took over New Mexico without firing a shot !! My father always claimed his family had come to Trinidad, Colorado from Mora, but the 1860 and1870 Census listed them in Los Valles de San Antonio which I have been unable to definitely place !! Possibly, it was located SE of Las Vegas at a place now called La Liendre !! My Grandfather, born in 1867, was baptized in Anton Chico which is downstream from that location !! Hopefully You have some way to verify this, because people at the county offices in Las Vegas had no idea where it could have been !!

[@getsmart321]

Yes it is gorgeous!! Thank you for your lectures!!

[@robmartinez7517]

You are welcome! :)

[@davidpacheco4770]

Mora is the most beautiful land in Nuevo Mex!!!!! By far!

[@robmartinez7517]

No argument here!

[@nunyabiz6925]

@@robmartinez7517 r u a descendant of the martinez’s near ocate? My great grandma was fidelia martinez

[@veejaymexico4840]

Mora to Tres Ritos is as gorgeous as it gets! The meadows from La Cueva thru Cleveland and on to The Holman area is memorable and so beautiful! Growing up in Rainsville, some of my best friends were Pachecos.

[@edwardohurtado2789]

I got family there in mora

[@arthurpluma6449]

👍

[@Vjl5280]

North central New Mexico, before Spanish conquest, was settled by Chichimec natives from north central Mexico in the late 16th century. After the Spanish-Chichimec war the Chichimecs assimilated into Spanish culture and were granted land by the crown of Spain. The original Hispanic families of north central New Mexico comes from this tribe.

[@greenghopper]

Thanks for sharing. I've been to Las Vegas, but not familiar with the Mora Valley. It sounds like a lot of traffic going through Mora.

[@robmartinez7517]

Ha! It sure does, especially for a small mountain town.

[@UniqueThaPoet]

Naci en las vegas... mi familia es de la Cuesta aka villanueva y tecolote.

[@lyndafmartin-serrano5805]

Hi Rob my Many Great Grandfather Juan Rafael Martin owned 120 Acres of Land in Mora and San Miguel, NM. I have a record showing the acres and signed by President Grover Cleveland. I also know there was a man by the name of Teofolio Martin owned land as well Mora sure is beautiful. Lynda Martin-Serrano.

[@robmartinez7517]

Mora is an amazing place, my querencia!

[@lyndafmartin-serrano5805]

@@robmartinez7517 I have been to the Mora area and would love to see the area my Great Grandfather lived. I’m like, “ What happened to the land?” Would you like to see the documents?

[@robmartinez7517]

@@lyndafmartin-serrano5805 You need to visit Mora, it is beautiful, though scorched by the recent fires.

[@AudemGonzales]

I'm gonna guess Mora was named after the Rio de Mora which shows up on maps since 1758. Most likely a named given because of the wild berries. Several maps show Rio de Mora before the area was inhabited by Hispanic settlers.

[@robmartinez7517]

Interesting!

[@levi_dracodraco3436]

have you heard any stories passed down from your Mascarenas relatives about the circumstances surrounding the death of James Santiago Bonney [Bone]...Im one of his descendants and have been trying to research the events of 1846 when the US came to La Junta

[@robmartinez7517]

Sorry Levi, I have not.

[@levi_dracodraco3436]

@@robmartinez7517 thanks...i appreciate you responding.

[@user-tm5em4vu7u]

He di-ed because he was an anglo invader and a thief! Like all you Anglos!! Eventually we will drive you out of Hispanic land! The southwest is ours and we will retake it! We have a huge growth rate while you Anglos have a negative growth rate! Go home Anglos!! The southwest is HISPANIC!!!

[@timothypadilla1277]

All that area in the first few seconds just charred forest now isn't it?

[@robmartinez7517]

Yes, very sad and tragic.

[@Gordo_505]

My father is from Mora we are Vigil/Romero what can you tell me about these Names?

[@arthurpluma6449]

Any native tribes ?

[@robmartinez7517]

Picuris Pueblo is just west of the Mora Valley, and Apache and Comanche people were known to the area in the 1800s as well.

[@eugeniotapia6765]

Being the so called state historian being right there in front of the Plaza Hotel and talking about Stephen Kerny why didn't he point out the building roof top he addressed the local Hispanic community telling them for the first time they were now subjects of the occupying American government ? Second, Anton Chico wasn't founded in the middle to late 1800s, it was founded, deserted, then reestablished for good around 1836 !! Really Tom ???

[@robmartinez7517]

Salvador Tapia, who was an original settler of Anton Chico, is one of my ancestors. Yes, Anton Chico was settled by him and other citizens in 1822, then the area was abandoned and then re-settled in the mid 1830s. Church records start in the mid 1850s. A post office was established at Anton Chico by 1872. Stephen Kearny entered New Mexico at Las Vegas in 1846. Plaza Hotel was built in 1882. But it is an interesting fact you point out about Kearny addressing the New Mexicans. Cheers!

[@mariamoreno6342]

Si realmente usted habla de herencia.,,,deberia de hablar en español, la lengua anterior a los ingleses.....

[@Kat-fq4ei]

The Colonial Mexican Period in 1815? The Mexican Period started in 1824. That's when Mexico officially became a nation with a Constitution and Mexican flag under Estados Unidos Mexicanos, a very young nation. New Mexico/Arizona , California or Texas territories did not participate in Mexicos (New Spain) independence or political battles in that very distant part of New Spain, 1500 miles from NM in an ancient era is another world. Those territories of which is central Mexico today, Mexico City areas. Mexican officials claimed the far northern territories after independence and headed to what is todays US SW after independence about 1824, considered estranjeros up north, where Mexican officials brought down Spains 300 years flag in New Spain, replaced by Mexico's brand new flag which was gone in 1848 in the SW, replaced by the US flag. Enough of this Chicano Studies history revision by our northern NM historian. I really think an unbiased Spanish Colonial Anglo historian would do better than immigrant Mexican Chicano educated NNM historian, we may as well have a Mexican historian. NM did have a California Mexican immigrant as director of NM Muesum several years ago, who didn't know the difference between Onate and DeVargas... I know because I was present and corrected him.

[@johnmccracken5465]

Dude. It’s not your home land either. Your ancestors were colonizers like mine.

[@ritavelazquez9402]

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