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@michaelbooth82194 жыл бұрын
I have test driven this car and in sport mode its rapid, 0-60 in 6 seconds I loved it very comfortable and easy to drive
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
It is a very nice car. Just gave my parents one instead of their 2015 GTE. I did a V-Box, and it actually goes 0-100 kph in about 5.2 seconds. No slouch for what it is.
@johncollymore16974 жыл бұрын
Great video intro, guys. Many thanks for the technical information, AJ, and the commentary - very good work. UK configurator says it's very expensive & no HUD! (Grandland X Ultimate Nav Hybrid4 AWD is £46.6k. BMW 330e (PHEV) Sport Pro with Tech Pack, Premium Pack & Comfort Pack is £43.3k). I'm hoping for much more pure EV range from future PHEV's...! Many thanks AJ.
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
thanks John!
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
Oh, wasn’t the Opel Ampera / Chevrolet Volt the first PHEV? Well, in a PHEV, the combustion engine is the main driver. In a REX car, the motor is just there for situations when the battery is depleted - as range extender, Opel also called this Extended Range Electric Vehicle (EREV). The Ampera did drive all-electric until the battery was depleted and then changed to the combustion engine. If you solely look at “where can I put in a cable”, you can call both Ampera and Grandland X PHEV. So at the end of the day, it is a question of definition. In a narrower sense, the Grandland X Hybrid4 is the first PHEV which works with the common PHEV system where the petrol engine is the main component. Opel themselves say it is their first PHEV as they understood the Ampera as EREV / electric vehicle with range extender (REX).
@OldPortsmouth4 жыл бұрын
I keep looking at Ampera's on used car sites ... I would really like to have one for interest purposes ... but here in Portugal, you need to find 17k (euro) to get one, so compared to a Prius etc, holding value amazingly well for a extinct model 🤔
@jesuscabrera45164 жыл бұрын
The Ampera is not considered a PHEV because the combustion engine only works as an electric generator, meaning it doesn't drive the wheels, only the electric motors do.
@gerardarmstrong76454 жыл бұрын
Good review - especially the points about visibility and traffic lights (speaking as an Audi cabio driver. Traffic lights are difficult to see )
@mjq160210 ай бұрын
Best review I’ve seen on this car. Excellent job.
@peterkobea55394 ай бұрын
This is most SUV that is built with substandard materials.I was fortunate to sit in one today and everything was fallen off .
@johanthureson17464 жыл бұрын
“A fairly responsible touchscreen” :)
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
Works great. Have you ried a car that has a touchscreen that is not sensitive enough? Go drive a Taycan, worst infotainment ever.
@kridgwell4 жыл бұрын
At last I have been waiting for a decent review on this car. A good review, thank you. In my opinion a Peugeot 3008 done properly (i.e. no ridiculous small steering wheel). I would like to think that a Peugeot 5008 based PHEV might be on the cards possibly?
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Sure that should be no problem, question is if they see the market for that
@incassable4 жыл бұрын
thé 5008 will be available as PHEV but one motor at the front only
@kridgwell4 жыл бұрын
@@incassable Thank you for the information - In my long life I have found that you simply cannot have everything....
@incassable4 жыл бұрын
Kim Ridgwell to be honest, a 5008 with 300hp phev is pretty useless... on the autobahn you will not get that power, only the small 1.6 once the battery is depleted ... and why would you need crazy 0-100kmh figure in that kind of car ? there is no space at the rear for the new axle and motor, that would cost the extra 2 seats
@kridgwell4 жыл бұрын
@@incassable I was not thinking about loads of hp, but for economy around town - as for the 2 extra seats - like the Outlander PHEV you mean...???
@richardwilton7224 жыл бұрын
Great review. OK. Comfortable rather than sporty. Otherwise, it looks a bargain compared to other plug-in hybrids in terms of power, equipment and comfort. It just moved up my list to take a closer look. And it looks really nice too. Most SUV's are just plain ugly, but this is nice.
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Also compare the sister model 3008: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fpCZdoitpLRqp9U Long version of that airing today as well
@timjenkins85384 жыл бұрын
Very well presented!
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
👌
@stefang10874 жыл бұрын
Great review, as always 😎👍 I have a question. How much is this car an Opel and how much is it an Peugeot?
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
Similar in technology but different in style and setup. We ll soon test the Peugeot 3008 phev, stay tuned! And already check our existing 3008 reviews! KZbin search Autogefuehl Peugeot 3008
@thokozanipakkies2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Excellent job. Wish this was available in the South African Market.
@autogefuehl2 жыл бұрын
Highly appreciated!
@michaeltuomenoksa36053 жыл бұрын
I have this car for the next 3-4 months. Im already impressed. The drivetrain is really good and its fairly quiet too. The suspension feels relatively stiff yet soaks up bumps really well. Minus points for the design inside and out. It looks a bit dated. The price tag is a bit high, but understandable considering the performance(300hp). So its a tough choice. Would not get this car in lower specs.
@autogefuehl3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the feedback!
@MrAndrei47774 жыл бұрын
Wow, very nice artistic intro!!! Great job
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
👌
@OldPortsmouth4 жыл бұрын
Great review and an interesting vehicle ... I like it - clearly it's issue is cost, no badge cache or impact visually ... So who is this car aimed at ... I assume the mum and two kids group? But that area is normally badge obsessed unfortunately ?
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@vasi1043 жыл бұрын
Hello. Does it work in awd mode after the batteries are depleted? I am asking this because I read that the petrol engine can't recharge the batteries. Thank you Great review btw
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the fact that they call that stuff leather.
@scottyg46054 жыл бұрын
Leather is a "Byproduct" of the food industry. So leather seats are "Environmentally Friendly" unlike Synthetic (plastic mix) materials.
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
Not true. You pay for suffering for animals and humans. First, check out what the leather industry is trying to do: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHCdKmCocZ5oqs Below this video you'll find more resources in the pinned comment to explain the topic even more in-depth.
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
The leather in that car has never seen an animal.
@slava_trushkin4 жыл бұрын
I love this red/black color mix! Though I do own Zafira in similar dark red color, which I also love, so I'm a bit biased. Test drove normal petrol Grandland X last year, I think its nice. Comfortable, quiet, looks good. Excellent review from Autogefühl, as usual! That pricing though! On Opel.de basic Grandland X Hybrid starts at 51k euro for basic model with engine featured in this review without any options, 44k for most basic model. It feels like another compliance vehicle not meant to be sold and a money grab. Petrol vehicle + 10 years worth of fuel is cheaper than this hybrid.
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
thanks !
@arejee33804 жыл бұрын
Pricing is the result of subventions most european countries have for EV/PHEV cars. In Germany its actually 4000€ (6000€ planned) so the car will start at 45.000€. Thats in price range of the petrol version in same trim and top of the line engine.
@slava_trushkin4 жыл бұрын
@@arejee3380 But its not. Following prices are taken from German official websites: 1.6 petrol (which is not lowest spec), automatic, innovation trim: 36.3k euro, same gearbox and trim with lowest hybrid engine is 44.6k euro. However petrol is much lighter, so it doesn't need that big engine and can drive well with simple 1.2 petrol that in same innovation trim with automatic gearbox costs 32.9k and with manual costs 30.6k, price difference is massive. Those are prices in Germany. Lets take a look at Honda CRV prices for comparison: Elegance spec with petrol engine 32.4k, with hybrid 36.2k. Lets take a look at Toyota RAV4 prices: 35.1k petrol, 38.6k hybrid. Similar cars, but price difference is tiny. Grandland X price difference is unreasonably huge even with cars of similar spec and they don't offer hybrids for lower specs.
@cytrynowy_melon66044 жыл бұрын
This is the same hybrid drivetrain as in Peugeot 3008 and DS7 Crossback, right?
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
Aye, also see our new 3008 phev review
@cytrynowy_melon66044 жыл бұрын
@@autogefuehl thanks. I have just one more question about this car, and i could not find any info on it in the internet (also in your 3008 phev review) So - the car doesn't feel that fast when your floor it (because of loud engine response). But is it objectively fast looking on the speedometer? On the highway you were driving pretty carefully, so what happens when you really floor it, does it behave well ? Like, is 0-180 km/h, or 80-160 kind of acceleration as objectively fast as 300 horsepower would suggest? Because some people claim this drivetrain and gearbox is overhelmed by the hybrid power and can't manage it, to the point its not fast at all. But I don't think its that slow.... Would you still call it noticeably faster than non-hybrid grandland?
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
What really lets the steering feedback down, is the tyres. Those 205/55R19 Primacy 3 are not very sporty shoes. Very much targeted towards mileage and eco'ness. Put the slightly wider rims and 235/50R19 Pilot Sport 4 SUV on it, and it is completely different. Not a sports car by any means, but it helps a lot.
@napoleon950 Жыл бұрын
thats not slightly wider but 3 centimeters. for tyres a big amount
@AB-80X Жыл бұрын
@@napoleon950 What did I write? Read it again. I said nothing about slightly wider tyres.
@napoleon950 Жыл бұрын
@@AB-80X you said slightly wider rims. rims tend to match the tyre on width. and you mention going from 205 tyres to 235's. if the rim is 'slightly wider' then the same distance for tyres is also 'slightly wider'
@AB-80X Жыл бұрын
@@napoleon950 I said a slightly wider rim. You can run that 235/50R19 on a 7 as well. My point which you clearly missed, was to run a slightly wider rim e.g a 7.5” or 8”. That is a slightly wider rim and has zero bearing on the actual figment swing that the tyre size I suggest is approved for rims ranging from 7.0” to 8.5” wide. The main reason for choosing the wider rim, is to increase response. Hell, this you could do by fitting that 205/55R19 on a wider rim, as it will stiffen up the sidewall. Finally I would like to point out that 235/50R19 is not very aggressive for the Grandland. It is an optional size you can choose as an option depending on your choice of wheel. Even if you get the smaller 18” wheels, you get 225’s. The 205 is an “extra” narrow tyre they offer for the hybrid, and a rather poor choice for such a heavy car. Not sure what your point was. Look at what comes on the car as standard and optional. The silly 205 is the one that stands out, not the 215, 225 and 235 offerings.
@janwege1502774 жыл бұрын
X6 should be hybrid too - 500 HP from V8 and 200-300 HP from electric engines. There is a lot of room for batteries :-)
@cytrynowy_melon66044 жыл бұрын
not lots of room, as dumb coupe suv design already limits cargo space
@ttsdrone68994 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Is there an "autohold" brake function?
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
Yes there is.
@balkaur57693 жыл бұрын
Would like it to be a bit sporty like the new Kia Sportage 2022
@mastermaltese87314 жыл бұрын
€51,000!!! REALLY! Oh but is a HYbRiD.... Most would get a Range Rover, something more luxurious... not a boring, plain car with flimsy plastic. Even the Outlander I think is cheaper...
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
Where do you live where you can get a Range Rover hybrid for this kind of money?
@JoeKundlak4 жыл бұрын
That trunk is... laughable. Of course, being a hybrid, you cannot expect more, but this is not a family car at all. For a couple, yes, maybe.
@daffiecars4 жыл бұрын
It's not as bad as it looks on camera, it's raised a little, grandland x is a crossover in my eyes not a full sized suv, we got a demo at work
@adamme83694 жыл бұрын
Must have big family then. Man you'd better go for a Ford Transit or something like that. LOL Nowadays people are just being ridiculous with their demands !
@JoeKundlak4 жыл бұрын
I have a small MPV - Kia Carens, which has some 570 litres of boot space. This has some 350+! You call that "not small"? Well, it is...
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
My guess is that you being an American, you have a skewed view of what is actually necessary. It is not a Burp, but it never tried to be.
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeKundlak Your car does not have a 570 liter boot, it is 492, so 100 liters more than this. That is not a huge deal actually. 390 is not a lot less than a 2010 Audi A4 Avant. That was 420 liters. You need something like a 5 Series BMW Touring or Merc E to get into the size you claim. Add to that this might only have 390 litres, but it is a very well laid out boot, so it uses a lot of that space. And lastly, I don't care what the boot space is, but I would not be caught dead in a Kia.
@ibbg14 жыл бұрын
60.000 € price tag and even doesn't the hood lifts? No, thanks Opel. WTF!
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
Does it matter? Do you go there often? Why pay for something you don't need?
@ibbg13 жыл бұрын
@@AB-80X It's part of the car you paid for it! Even the more cheaper cars has hood lifts. Of course I need it! I can open and close just one touch otherwise if you can't offer me this standart thing why I pay for your car €60.000 Opel?
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
@@ibbg1 What? I don't understand that.
@ibbg13 жыл бұрын
@@AB-80X Nevermind!
@Ahmad-Mounir442 жыл бұрын
Why don't I have the paddle shifters? Did they remove them in 2021 model?
@autogefuehl2 жыл бұрын
Might depend on engine
@Ahmad-Mounir442 жыл бұрын
@@autogefuehl I have 1.6L Petrol Turbo
@autogefuehl2 жыл бұрын
And this here is phev
@markatherton6576 Жыл бұрын
No longer made hybrid 4 auto which is a shame
@thokozanipakkies2 жыл бұрын
Where is the spare wheel?
@GAMEBREAKER7004 жыл бұрын
Prefer the Peugeot but at the prices Vauxhall are quoting for a Hybrid that will be considered an enemy of the state in a few years, the price is just too goddamn high!!
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
You know what the problem with the Puggie is? You will have to be seen in it...
@sglucatony4 жыл бұрын
What happens if you don't plug it in?
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
Nothing
@emreplt4 жыл бұрын
better than thomas
@cytrynowy_melon66044 жыл бұрын
i would say different, but better? I think every car should be reviewed by them both, then you would really see different points of view.
@emreplt4 жыл бұрын
@@cytrynowy_melon6604 thomas is far away from being objective
@cytrynowy_melon66044 жыл бұрын
@@emreplt But in what way? Is he favorizing specific brands? I have seen much worse reviewers
@christianwold4 жыл бұрын
Hmm looks good
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
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@thetad12422 жыл бұрын
Really unrealistic. 4 5l is such a good figure surely, no?
@sweetfreedomGB4 жыл бұрын
Stupidly expensive for what it is, totally unfathomable.
@alexander10554 жыл бұрын
I thought I didn't hear him right when he said 51.000€, I had to rewind to hear it again.
@GAMEBREAKER7004 жыл бұрын
Costs more than the Peugeot equivalent. Do Opel/Vauxhall think consumers are dumb or have deep pockets? Or both?
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
That's just the price of cars these days. Just gave my retired parents one. Nice car.
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
@@GAMEBREAKER700 Have you seen the Puggie? It is terrible on the inside by comparison.
@jhewitthunt4 жыл бұрын
what is the 0-60 time ?
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
Official 5.7. Tested about 4.8-4.9.
@Zachman6764 жыл бұрын
Is this still based off a GM platform?
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
3008 collab
@Zachman6764 жыл бұрын
Autogefühl ah okay makes sense. Looks nicer than anything brought to the US and rebadged as a Buick.
@normt54634 жыл бұрын
@@Zachman676 it looks like the new Buick Encore GX.
@normt54634 жыл бұрын
@@Zachman676 more research... Wiki: PSA Peugeot Citroen and General Motorsplanned to use EMP2 platform for several vehicles, developed under the short lived PSA-GM alliance.[3][4] In March 2017, PSA agreed to buy Vauxhall/Opel from General Motors. It is expected, that PSA will move many if not all Opel models from their former GM platforms to PSA's EMP1 and EMP2 platforms to reduce licensing fees to GM and to reduce material costs by higher volumes.
@normt54634 жыл бұрын
@M. S. it is the Buick Encore GX in the states. It will be made in Korea for us. PSA Peugeot Citroen and General Motorsplanned to use EMP2 platform for several vehicles, developed under the short lived PSA-GM alliance.[3][4] In March 2017, PSA agreed to buy Vauxhall/Opel from General Motors. It is expected, that PSA will move many if not all Opel models from their former GM platforms to PSA's EMP1 and EMP2 platforms to reduce licensing fees to GM and to reduce material costs by higher volumes.
@lloyd18ish4 жыл бұрын
niceeeeeeeeeee
@pumagepard95924 жыл бұрын
super
@normt54634 жыл бұрын
Looks exactly like 2020 Buick Encore GX. GM VSS-F platform Wiki: PSA Peugeot Citroen and General Motorsplanned to use EMP2 platform for several vehicles, developed under the short lived PSA-GM alliance.[3][4] In March 2017, PSA agreed to buy Vauxhall/Opel from General Motors. It is expected, that PSA will move many if not all Opel models from their former GM platforms to PSA's EMP1 and EMP2 platforms to reduce licensing fees to GM and to reduce material costs by higher volumes.
@markatherton6576 Жыл бұрын
Nice model auto 4 wheel drive but this model is no longer made
@thabisomaleka39334 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why hybrids exist. Just make an EV
@carlosandleon4 жыл бұрын
more practical. You can fill up at a gas station and continue. While still saving gas overall. With a battery vehicle you have the annoying charging times which is annoying in longer intercity rides. Basically A hybrid already recuperates electricity back through braking and deceleration and the plug in supplements that with more electricity from the grid. I think a Hybrid is the Car for our time period. Sure there are already amazing battery vehicles now. But I'll give them another decade before they can truly be accepted by the masses. Hybrids are just slightly more practical range wise
@thabisomaleka39334 жыл бұрын
@@carlosandleon Which sounds great but the battery pack makes the car heavier and owning a hybrid out of warranty is not a good idea at all. Give me an EV or Petrol engine.
@carlosandleon4 жыл бұрын
@@thabisomaleka3933 Simple solution: don't get a hybrid out of Warranty
@colinkrefting95014 жыл бұрын
It's for people who do not want to give up the reliability of a conventionally powered car but want to help the enviroment
@cytrynowy_melon66044 жыл бұрын
Hybrids are there because most of people are conservative beings, they need smooth adaptation period before full EVs come. That's the true reason. Range anxiety problem exists more than in people heads than in reality. Manufacturers make use of this and produce hybrids, its better for them especially because hybrids will need more maintenance in the future in comparison to electric cars, so some dealers will make more money on servicing. You can do oil changes on a hybrid, but on EV? Just reduction gear grease change once in 10 years. The only thing you can change frequently on EV is brake fluid (every 2 years or so). That's why dealers prefer hybrids. Another reason are tax benefits. Hybrids are cheaper than electric cars to produce, but still get huge tax benefits or additional government funding. Hybrid is only a reasonable choice if your company offers you a car, with specific maximum leasing rate monthly. If the car that fits in your lease rate is most powerful in the hybrid version (like in case with this Opel, Puegeot 3008 or DS7 Crossback), then hybrid makes most sense.
@twisterwiper4 жыл бұрын
It’s nice but it is no family car. That boot is just laughable. Give us some decent sized PHEVs!
@AB-80X3 жыл бұрын
You need to see one before you talk. It's a fairly roomy boot.
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
►Compare the Opel Grandland X Ultimate: kzbin.info/www/bejne/raLQoI2Hn7qsh68 ►Compare the Peugeot 3008: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4eUpphpo9yUodk
@ariepaul4 жыл бұрын
Ugly old school opel design. Nothing new, they just follow the competition. Chrome strips? Elegant? Oh my god!
@MattJohnson754 жыл бұрын
You forgot the Opel ampera
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
See comment to that topic!
@carlosandleon4 жыл бұрын
That's an EREV. The engine is completely separate from the wheels
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
Comment: "Oh, wasn’t the Opel Ampera / Chevrolet Volt the first PHEV? Well, in a PHEV, the combustion engine is the main driver. In a REX car, the motor is just there for situations when the battery is depleted - as range extender, Opel also called this Extended Range Electric Vehicle (EREV). The Ampera did drive all-electric until the battery was depleted and then changed to the combustion engine. If you solely look at “where can I put in a cable”, you can call both Ampera and Grandland X PHEV. So at the end of the day, it is a question of definition. In a narrower sense, the Grandland X Hybrid4 is the first PHEV which works with the common PHEV system where the petrol engine is the main component. Opel themselves say it is their first PHEV as they understood the Ampera as EREV / electric vehicle with range extender (REX)."
@colinkrefting95014 жыл бұрын
Autogefuhl, do you think Opel/Vauxhall Astra would sell well in US/Canada
@rajamoffin4 жыл бұрын
His name is not aj but ajay, he is indian. Dude be proud youre indian. Stop westernizing yourself, people accept you for who you are
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
No his name is Aditya and AJ is just a nice short term combined of his name and surname. Relax :)
@rajamoffin4 жыл бұрын
@@autogefuehl tomatoes tomatoes, my comment stands. He should use his real name, because its beautifull and should not feel ashamed about it. And respect for the slim german dude that promotes vegan interiors.
@autogefuehl4 жыл бұрын
no one is ashamed
@colinkrefting95014 жыл бұрын
People can choose to blend in or stand out, you're not the boss of people's brains