New Product: Brownells BRN-605™ Carbine

Before the M4, before the CAR-15, there was the Model 605. Paul Levy introduces us to the Brownells BRN-605™, a detailed replica of this very rare and early (ca. 1965) carbine version of the M16. If it looks like an M16A1 with 4.5" lopped off the barrel ahead of the front sight tower… that's because the Model 605 was! Like the original, the BRN-605™ has a 15.5" barrel capped with the early 3-prong M16 flash hider. Yes, it looks odd. But due to its rifle-length gas system, the semi-auto BRN-605 is pleasantly soft-shooting. Eventually, the more drastically redesigned XM177 carbine, the famous "CAR-15" saw service in Vietnam. But that's another story - and another Brownells Retro™ Rifle.
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[@Mrgunsngear]

so awesome

[@fook-joby-den6172]

Mrgunsngear Channel- I’d be grateful to Brownell’s should they find it in their hearts to offer you a BRN-605 to you as a T&E rifle. Inquiring minds want to know if this is just a looker? shooter? or both? 😁

[@nightfury6836]

Just bought one today Mikey. I’d like to know what ya think about it. Reliability wise & all...

[@Osprey78]

Work overtime, buy this rifle. New Years resolution.

[@TheMCD1989]

I have always been a Comblock rifle guy but I just saw the first video on InrangeTV of two of these things and I think I just found my first AR. I've always loved the A1 style but something about this is just flat out awesome, keep up the good work!

[@jeffreyelliott622]

I know im looking at AR rifles now and don't own one yet but I love the looks of this little handy dandy rifle and looks to be able to get in tight quarters anywhere !!!!

[@rcairnut]

glad I got one when I could.

[@Peter-ox7wh]

Brownells is killing it!!!! Every year is better

[@Dixielinemuzik]

Cool to see they came through with an A1 Dissipator. I built my own a while ago, except I used a C7 A1 upper, but its cool to see one come to the commercial market.

[@tomjones1967]

I’ve wanted a 605 ALL of my life. I have the parts including some of your hand guards. I was under the impression they had no forward assist & the upper receiver had a “nub” where it was milled off. I believe there’s a reproduction upper receiver. You know you can fit a mid length system in those hand guards; I did, it’s a lot more reliable. I’ll almost be sold when you put that upper out, just please correct the receiver & have a more realistic price. AWESOME rifle!

[@NerdWithGuns]

You are correct, the 605 was made from a mix of M16 and M16A1 receivers, and the rifles with A1 uppers had the forward assist machined off. They goofed on this one, even if they didn't want to have the "nub" where the forward assist would have been, they could have still used their slick side upper and have it be correct

[@tomjones1967]

Steve Wiswell thanks. Although there’s some good execution I feel a few of the rifles are rushed. Seeing Nodak Spud manufactures all Brownells Retro line I can’t see how hard it would to have a correct receiver especially for the price. I’m still disappointed they failed to use a low profile gas block & a mid length gas system (it’s beyond proven itself in reliability for the dissipator platform & fits under their hand guard). Basically there’s things like the barrel setup they hit out of the park & a few opportunities I’m very disappointed in, considering Brownells reputation, $1360 ain’t happening. FYI I got a PSA dissipator upper for $160 on special.

[@VOLHans]

@@tomjones1967 I understand the reliability of the mid-length gas block, however you'd see it through the triangle handguards quite easily due to the large teeth. As for the upper, although the VAST majority of the 605's made appear to have been built using either slick-side or "shaved" A1 uppers, there ARE some photographs of original 605s with A1 style forward assist uppers. There has also been at least one 20" M-16 model 604 observed built with a 605-style shaved upper rather than the normal slick-side upper.

[@TylerHulan]

You guys should do a retro 9mm ar. I'd buy one for sure.

[@Apathesis0]

Department of Energy 9mm AR please

[@Tula1940_LB]

I've shot one of these with a lightning link and I loved it. Very controllable.

[@Pitchlock8251]

Brownells make me happy

[@Squib1911]

Thanx for the history lesson with this to explain it better to the audience.

[@jessitaylor4170]

I would love to have that upper with a 1 / 7 twist barrel!

[@jessitaylor4170]

@@Tula1940_LB I just like shooting the heavier grain and I love shooting just using irons, I love the challenge.

[@VOLHans]

I would LOVE to have this with a "Slick Side" or "601" style upper and bolt carrier. I already own a BRN-603 and would like to get a little more variety in my 605!

[@281cu6]

So excited about the retro ejection port door. It was difficult to source the one I used on my build.

[@paowerhouse92]

If only gunmakers knew to open up the gas port a little more on these weapons back in the late 60s and early 70s, this would have been an interesting supplementary rifle to the M16A1.

[@crixquintero5986]

Beautiful rifle

[@Tula1940_LB]

@@jmyersv1 Build one cheaper. Brownells will be there for you when you realize you can't.

[@brownells]

*Drops mic*

[@Apathesis0]

Basically what I want, but with their new 25-round straight magazines and a chopped CAR-15 stock for an extra-short PDW look.

[@clayjones1933]

What has been done different to make this reliable? You have a rifle length gas system with a carbine length barrel so what has changed? There’s still no dwell time! If you want a reliable platform buy a dissipator barrel assembly, mount it to an a1 receiver and there you go, it looks the part and functions. Plus you saved a lot of money!

[@FoolishImp]

The original Dissipator

[@DNchap1417]

The original Dissipator...

[@joshjones2053]

Awesome looking ar!

[@popojoeexplode]

Brownells WINS 2019! Iv always wanted one of these!

[@lon242]

Put that upper on a M4 lower with a triangular SOPMOD style stock, that'd be awesome and fun af

[@jeffreyelliott622]

Shit it looks sexy ass hell the it looks already I think !!!!

[@sttvoyager1727]

Wow what a beauty. I’m so happy that Brownells has not only been so customer oriented my entire life, but they still, to this day continue to innovate and now are producing some of the nicest, most innovative ,UNIQUE and very functional clones IN THE MARKETPLACE. ADDITIONALLY, WITH YOUR COUPONS, YOUR PRICES ARE OFTEN CHEAPER THAN ANYONE ELSE ON THE MARKET. THE GUY COMPLAINING THAT YOUR PRICES ARE TOO HIGH MUST BE PART OF THE ÜBER POORS THAT COMPLAIN AT EVERY WEBSITE ABOUT PRICES BEING TOO HIGH ETC ETC...WHEN WHAT LITTLE THEY BUYHAS TO BE MARKED DOWN TO CLEARANCE BLOWOUT ALL ITEMS MUST GO BEFORE THESE BOTTOM FEEDERS MOVE IN.......🤣🤣🤣🍻🍻🍻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@SGTRVN1]

Don't sneer at the little guy, he's the one who protects your butt by voting for the gun friendly. YOU should not be allowed any where a gun. BTW in the lower left hand side of your keyboard is a key marked with the word "Shift" with an arrow. If you press it you will look less stupid.

[@Kevin-ix4qz]

Really sad Brownells doesn't sell these as a complete rifle anymore.

[@Ballardsi]

Are the uppers alone for sale?

[@RedMcCloud]

josh ballard Yes

[@museves]

I always dig for dissipator rifles

[@QarthCEO]

So how does this actually compare in build quality to a BCM or DD? Is this just a range toy for collectors or is it a serious rifle that you can trust your life to?

[@keiththiha]

Xaro Xhoan Daxos the build quality is good but I would be very careful with a rifle length gas system on a shorter than 17in barrel. At that short of a dwell time the system will probably work but will not be as reliable as a BCM or a DD.

[@jeffreyelliott622]

Can you run a suppressor on that 3 prong flash hider though ? Brownells says it's pretty reliable if you run the M193 55gr ammo for sure !!!!

[@Apathesis0]

@@keiththiha what if you use an adjustable gas block paired with a VLTOR A5 buffer system?

[@makarov9x186]

Wait. Y'all skipped on opening the gas port or just the bolt mods or whatever?

[@macksbear]

Yup cheap ass for that kind of money

[@HALE2daKINGbaby]

I wanna get one of these and stick a corn cob on it, since that is the only can that will work without taking off the muzzle

[@popojoeexplode]

So next year BRN-607 with a SBI partnered 607 colapsable arm brace that looks historicly correct? I built a 607 pretty much using mostly BRN parts minus barrel and handguards, the only off putting/non historical thing about it is the KAK blade...

[@99Racker]

Will you be shipping just the upper?

[@Tula1940_LB]

Is the lower the same lower as the M16A1 clone? It would be cool to have both a 15.5" and 20" upper to swap between.

[@redtra236]

It's the same lower as the Colt 603 Clone(The one before M16A1). Any AR-15 upper should fit on this though.

[@dangerousfreedom4965]

I want one

[@Radvous]

I wouldn't have minded a 16 inch barrel, just easier to go about replacing parts later

[@josephharris5346]

Brownies does not warranty their products sold thru Optics Planet

[@pipesmokingdeputy423]

Just wondering: why does this have 1:12 twist barrel? Would that make it period correct also?

[@animalmother556x45]

Keeley Leonard Yes, these were 1:12 originally

[@pipesmokingdeputy423]

@@animalmother556x45 thanks!

[@animalmother556x45]

@@pipesmokingdeputy423 you is welcome

[@ripHalo0002]

What's the diameter of the gas port?

[@animalmother556x45]

Oooooooweeeee! This one pissed off the poors.....

[@Rob_Nasty]

80% of american live paycheck to paycheck.... goodjob being a douche bag to most the country

[@robcharuk2351]

@@Rob_Nasty get a job you bum!

[@Rob_Nasty]

@@robcharuk2351 Huh? What makes you insinuate i dont have a job? Thats a classical virtue signaling tactic. Pathetic. Im single, no children, and work full time... Shit if i said no children and didnt work full time. Id still be better off lol!!

[@robcharuk2351]

@@Rob_Nasty classic virtue signaling tactic?? Dude WTF.Im just bustin your chops man! Relax

[@RJM1011]

nice :)

[@jeffreyelliott622]

Can you buy the green or olive drab furniture for this rifle ?

[@gonuts4donuts]

Not sure if you've found out yet, but yes, you can get green or brown A1 stock sets to replace the black.

[@toki89666]

The barrel looks about 0.2" too long. The flash hider should be right up on the fsb to be correct. Everyone says 15" but in actuality it was ~15.3" He said they made it 15.5 and pinned and welded to meet legal length... Well people use 14.7" barrels and pin a standard flash hider all the time. A correct 15.3" pinned would be roughly 16.5". Plently long. Lol

[@Pest789]

BRN-607?

[@SamSalsa411]

Pest789 The 607 I think would be too iffy to reproduce, considering it only has a few minor differences and is essentially the same as this, with the exception of the weird looking collapsible stock and forward assist (which for some reason is on this even though it wasn't on the original 605). With so many retro guns already being reproduced by them, I see why they may mix the two like what they did here. I hope they expand to do some WWII guns like maybe a G98/K98K or something

[@Pest789]

I want the awesome looking collapsible stock unique to the 607

[@redtra236]

It would have to be an SBR.

[@Pest789]

You say that like it's a bad thing

[@redtra236]

Well it complicates the process to getting it and makes it legal in less states. Hopefully they make some SBRs down the line though.

[@ALOTOFCARROTSTICKS]

WHY IS THIS $1200?!?!

[@Tula1940_LB]

I challenge you to build one for the same price.

[@animalmother556x45]

Logan, they don't CARE what each component costs...."I can't afford this therefore it is overpriced."

[@Tula1940_LB]

@@animalmother556x45 That's not over priced that's out of your price range. Say if I can get a pound of gold for $10,000 but I don't have that much money. That's not over priced that's actually very cheap FOR WHAT IT IS. However I cannot afford that. Remember too people put their money where they want it. I worked minimum wage and built a sizable gun collection over a few years worth about $5,000

[@animalmother556x45]

@@Tula1940_LB Dude I'm totally in agreement. This is a specialty item. Rare. I triple-dog-dare these idiots to actually sit down and price out all of these components. Where are you going to find the proper barrel profile that is 15.5 inches? Pay a machinist to cut one down and thread/crown it? That's not going to be done for free. Upper and lower from Nodak...expensive...etc etc. I wish I could live in an alternate reality like the rest of these dudes...

[@animalmother556x45]

Here's my question to you. Where is your evidence that this is NOT WORTH $1200?!?!

[@jerseyjackrabbit2829]

How is this 1200?? Colt needs to fire it’s whatever department because sure it’s cool but for a practical actual will use at rifle would be almost half the price. It’s like spring field m1as. How the hell are they priced like that?

[@roberth4688]

Michael huertas it’s not a Colt. It’s made by Brownells. And it’s expensive for a few reasons. 1- It doesn’t use a lot of the cheap off the shelf parts. Instead it uses small runs of expensive to set up and produce reproduction retro parts. These cost significantly more and don’t benefit from the economy of scale. 2- American labor isn’t cheap. 3- Don’t complain so much. I remember basic AR rifles costing a lot when the dollar also bought more. I can’t afford one of these either but I at least understand why things are priced the way they are.

[@hambrabai1256]

This isn't a bunch of off the shelf parts slapped together, if you were going to build a rifle like this on your own you'd likely have over a thousand dollars in a similar product and it would likely be built from a mishmash of old and new parts. Folks seem to forget these Brownells retro rifles aren't 350 dollar poverty pony rifles with mystery bolt carriers and the cheapest barrels you can buy. There's a place for that brand of fun and they don't live in the same world as reproductions of exceedingly rare retro ARs.

[@redtra236]

Lol this isn't even a Colt Product

[@TMS5100]

this is cokebottle glasses level nerdy. paul, where's your pocket protector?

[@simonmaguire5250]

Rifle-length gas system on a under 16 inch barrel may not be the best idea.

[@animalmother556x45]

Simon Maguire that's why the gas hole was opened up a bit in the barrel.

[@simonmaguire5250]

@@animalmother556x45 True but I'm still not 100% on it.

[@animalmother556x45]

@@simonmaguire5250 Do you WANT a rifle like this anyway? Then why worry? Haha

[@simonmaguire5250]

@@animalmother556x45 We would not be here if we all did not want it in some way. The xad thing is I'm in the UK so it's never going to happen.

[@lon242]

Typically, what's the minimum barrel length for a rifle gas system to work? Would 17 be fine, or would it have to be 18?

[@oiops]

Your prices are TOO DAMN HIGH! Guess pricing was decided in them Obama Days, them days and high prices are long gone Brownells.

[@Tula1940_LB]

You build one cheaper. You have to SBR it or pay a gunsmith to pin and weld the muzzle device on which would be easily $100 alone. Get a barrel. You won't be able to find a A1 profile barrel at 15.5 inches. Sure you could cut one down but congrats more cost still!

[@sttvoyager1727]

THE ÜBER POORS ARE OUT IN THE FORCE....THE ONES COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS NEVER UNDERSTAND HOW BROWNELLS DISCOUNTS THEIR STUFF TO BELOW MAREKT RATE WITH THEIR COUPON CODES AND FREE SHIPPING...ALL THIS CLOWN DOES IS SEE A PRICE...HE KNOWS NOTHING ELSE...HE NEEDS TO QUIT COMPLAINING AND GO BACK TO THE BOTTOM LINE OF BLEMISHED PSA UPPERS AND LOWERS SO THE ÜBER POORS DON’T COME OUT IN FORCE AND BEGIN CHORTLING...... 🤣🤣🤣🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🍾🍾🍾🍻🍻🍻

[@georgiabowhunter]

Take a simple economics course and you will understand how supply and demand works.

[@themaster1dcp]

Poors gonna poor, it's a limited run repro of a prototype. There's just a LITTLE bit of work involved in that