NEW Quest 3 & Cambria Info is EXCITING (Direct from Meta!!)

[@EricForPresident]

Kids = sickness

[@_jkcrz]

"My Kid's not sick anymore, daddy's sick now. Daddy?"

[@JamesPound]

Spoken like a true parent. You are correct sir.

[@bobwitmer2492]

It’s clear to me that Meta is expecting Apple to launch their AR/VR device at WWDC in June, and they’re intentionally leaking Cambria stuff to get in front of it. I’m looking forward to the competition.

[@JackaldudeVR]

The whole wanting to not feel disconnected to the people around you is real. My play through of elden ring was really nice because my fiancé was able to sit next to me on her phone. It’s how we relax together which is pretty much impossible to do playing most things in VR. On another note your videos lately are super insightful. Have you thought about just throw these same videos up as a podcast? I was able to just listen to most of this on my walk into work. Just a though. Hope you’re feeling better!

[@alsantour8835]

Making games for Q1 sure doesnt make sense anymore... As a dev who is about to send a game for AppLab review, it will definitely be the last one with Q1 support from my studio. About 30% of the dev time went into making it optimized for Q1, all delays where caused by this too. And in the end all reviews I got from beta testers who played it on both devices , is that it looks better, sounds better and plays better on the Q2. From my last AppLab game, only 5% of my users have Q1, it is just not worth the effort and working around the Q1 limitation anymore, especially once newer more capable devices hit the market. I would love to keep supporting the Q1, i think it is short lived, BUT if you want to make bigger/better games (which is every developer out there) you have to follow the market and move onto the bigger better hardware, supporting the old stuff becomes just too costly and prohibitive.

[@michelverheijen6643]

What about pcvr to android vr is also the same situation but around. If you want to create a game with best sound and graphics you shouldn't develope for android vr at all! But if you want to go for the money you must go for the mass sells numbers and indeed quest2 is the best choice and since most users are kids who want to play gorilla tag(respect for developer) it is an easer sell for a indi studio indeed.

[@scaryman9000]

I literally did a full mouth of water laugh when you said sadly it's Bradley beat him to the punch

[@EricForPresident]

Bradley will forever know Mark is personally pissed off at him, if a robot can have emotions that is

[@butterysmooth5808]

If it's not 4k oled 120hz HDR with eye tracking wifi 6e directly to headset and not over the network it's not good enough

[@deddrz2549]

I doubt it would be under 120hz seeing as even the quest 2 can reach 120hz in a few applications lol

[@dtz1000]

Totally agree. Also for the price they want to charge it should have a significantly bigger FOV than the Quest 2 but that probably isn't going to happen either.

[@Jaw0lf]

Hope your health improves, I totally understand your feelings on VR use as I too have been struggling and it is certainly more difficult to get into the VR when your head is not in the right place. This has been a great video and thanks for pulling the main points from the Boz chat. Theses are exciting times andit is great that he has so much knowlege and is still excited by what he is building.

[@axyndey]

This video quality is amazing, you're highly underrated my friend.

[@EricForPresident]

Thank you ❤️

[@samson143vr]

Great vid. I am pumped for the future of MR. A few of my friends with young kids tell me one of the big reasons they rarely use their Quest is because it's so isolating, I feel like pass through really helps with this. Keep at it!

[@MRCroosingTootH]

Might be your best video yet. Cause of your opinions and cause of the content. And calm down and dont take work to much to your heart, your health is the number 1 important thing. Trust me ive been there. Not worth it. Stress is bad. So take care of your self. One thing I would love for you to talk about is the FOV. I feel like they HAVE to increase FOV. It's time now alot of people are Having problems with the FOV that are testig VR for the first time.

[@EricForPresident]

A comment like this goes a long way. Thank you ❤️

[@beizelby5867]

The Metaverse needs to be a central hub that is compatible with as many other games and worlds as possible to go through portals or whatever to those games and worlds, but also to be a place to hang out and socialize.

[@dannyedsers]

Great video today mate, lots of content. I got stuck on a puzzle in a room playing Red Matter and got game claustrophobia lol. Frustrating but got it in the end

[@rapidey3movement360]

Just had my younger niece and nephew over I was so sad that they couldn't try my VR headset due to age but I was also super excited because by the time they can get into VR the landscape and tech will be so much cooler

[@andy2more475]

I think of the metaverse like the internet 2.0, it was there before people started using it for other things. With transparent displays available I wonder if that would be better for passthrough than stitched cameras? Good stuff. Thanks man!

[@deddrz2549]

It would be difficult to guess, because as of now, as opposed to stitched cameras, transparent screens will always have some transparency even on objects that should be opaque, and could look worse depending on lighting conditions.

[@andy2more475]

@@deddrz2549 maybe another layer on the lenses that turns opaque like windows that blackout for non passthrough? Then clear for A.R. or passthrough.

[@Roaddog007]

Right on Eric, Thank You.

[@BlackMarketHoney]

I would say that one explanation of the metaverse could be that everything that you can do with your phone, tablet or personal computer, you can do in a HMD with all your friends and contacts(If you like?!). Today, on my phone, I booked a flight for my mother, I did some personal banking chores, paid some bills, shopped for Cycling shoes, shopped for a skateboard deck, made skate plans with a buddy, talked to my brother and watched you on KZbin! Imagine if your home environment was like an procedurally generation mall, with all the things I did above in it, generated as and when I needed them and I could meet the people I wanted to in there as I went through my day. Not to mention playing some games! I think that is an entirely possible scenario. All the best, Rich in Sweden.

[@MaximusGamesMG]

thanks for making these videos make life easy

[@EricForPresident]

Appreciate the love ❤️

[@K4IICHI]

As a trader working for a prop-trading company, I'm getting Cambria as soon as it drops. Being able to have as many monitors as I need with passthrough without investing in expensive six-monitor setup is a gamechanger for me.

[@michelverheijen6643]

A lot of chiropractors will be smiling bahahaha! They will get a lot of new patiënts. Maybe when vr/ar is like wearing real glasses i get your point. But 8 hours with a brick on your head is no fun. Ok for enjoy gaming(not 8 hours a day bahahaha)and hobby 3d modeling developers like me. But after 2 hours i really need a break and neck release and i have many vr hours. And real business company with private data never allow employee a device with a facebook account.

[@K4IICHI]

@@michelverheijen6643 well, we don't have light headsets at this point, and Cambria doesn't seem to be one of the bricks we're used to. I never said I use my Quest for productivity, but Cambria just might do the trick. Depends on weight and ergonomics.

[@michaelv151]

Great content Eric!

[@rallicraze]

get well soon Eric

[@tommykarrick9130]

My primary hope is that the passthrough API will work with PCVR, not even necessarily for games but for using virtual PC monitors in my irl space, whether that be for flatscreen gaming or KZbin or writing or whatever

[@mjgrant298]

I think the Cambria still has a long way to go - the latency in the MR seen in the video Zuck posted shows it’s still quite a way off. Also the form factor strapped to your face isn’t ideal for long periods of productivity - much prefer the Lynx R1 which is going to start shipping in a few weeks time and also should be a lot cheaper than the Cambria

[@andvaribekho]

your slack and messenger notification sounds always confuse the hell out of me 🤣

[@AT99_TKT]

Thanks for the video. Stand alone and high high resolution are the most important requirements for me. I’m ok to pay more for better.

[@stitzelmichael]

It's my 2nd year in VR (Quest2) and I was just asking myself "why would someone spend an extra 2g's and tether themselves to a PC for a little extra texture?" I guess battery life is one thing, but that's easy to add. .also,we perceive a movie on a mobile phone same as a theater after about 5 minutes (your "blinders") so what gives? I understand some enthusiasts would probably never touch a quest2...just wondering if this is an "emperor's new clothes" or just different strokes for different folks?...the cambria does sound awesome, maybe the best of both...p.s.long time viewer first time subscriber...bang!

[@dtz1000]

It's not just about the amazing graphics on the PC. It's also about the physics. Often the Quest 2 is so underpowered it can't even get the physics right.

[@stitzelmichael]

@@dtz1000 thanks

[@BloculusMonster]

Eric is dropping F-bombs in this video shows how invested he is in the subject matter.

[@glenrisk5234]

Do you believe there is any question to the motive of a person or organization that would attack the foundation of your existence? Is that acceptable to you? What is the foundation of multicellular life? PS; Quite enjoyed the less aggressive, (sick?) tone of this.

[@IrocZIV]

No one really knows what the Metaverse is, because it doesn't exist yet. Right now we are in the hype stage. While there are lots of cool ideas of what it could be, the cooperation between companies and software will determine what it actually becomes. Unfortunately it's not likely to reach its full potential, since money is driving it more than passion.

[@jitone1]

I agree I don't use FB either.

[@voskimanbr]

I will to buy this quest 3

[@ForestTre]

Yes I agree they did to get rid of Facebook requirement. I hate it

[@jitone1]

sometimes you need to step away and count... 1 kill... 2 kill... 3 kill... 4 kill...

[@c6jones720]

I wonder with the Cambria, will the colour passthrough allow you to see with any clarity whats shown on another computer monitor, or tv screen? That would make it extremely useful

[@wcoulliette]

I have wondered this too. Right now seeing a screen in pass through is a mess.

[@c6jones720]

@@wcoulliette The pass through is already good enough for most use cases, but that last little thing of being able to read some written text on paper or see something on a tv screen would change everything and make it amazing.

[@josetorres6241]

Is it has a display port???

[@timeTegus]

One important thing about cambria is that it has the same processor as the quest 2 the only diferens ther is that it has extra fans to cool it. So it will not have better grafic than the quest 2

[@ashleybarnes9343]

No but it will, the quest 2 roughly runs 50 percent worse then it should cos the cooling, if they can cool the cambria properly they can squeeze almost half the performance extra put of it, meaning more fps, meaning they can make the graphics better sacrificing fps because its fps will be higher then the quest 2 meaning they can sacrifice the extra fps to make better qaulity games

[@timeTegus]

@@ashleybarnes9343 it will be a bit better but not mutch.

[@ashleybarnes9343]

@@timeTegus no but it will be, its already been stated that the quest 2 runs 50 percent slower then it should because it doesmt have cooling, if they can cool the cambria properly and utilise its cpu to its fullest extent they will be able to make games look considerably better with better fps

[@timeTegus]

@@ashleybarnes9343 I think the difference will not be so big. Also game developers will probably not increase the grafics of ther games because most of the games sold are on the quest and not the cambria. Because the cambria is more expensive. So the games probably just have a bit mor fps.

[@ashleybarnes9343]

@@timeTegus no I know the games probably won't look better, im just saying that they have the potential too look way better on the cambria

[@21EC]

16:19 - That's why Quest 3 is probably not going to get released in 2023, more likely it will be out in 2024 or Q1 2025

[@dtz1000]

That would be an unforgivable mistake if they didn't release the Quest 3 in 2023. If Meta don't want to give consumers what they want then Pico, Sony and others will step in. So far I'm not too impressed with Cambria when Sony have an OLED headset with a bigger FOV ready for release just a few months after the Cambria. I think Meta is getting too bloated and lazy.

[@21EC]

@@dtz1000 Well, it just doesn't make sense for them to release Quest 3 like half a year after Cambria is released..so that almost certainly gonna push its release date to at least Q4 2023 or 2024 or so at best case, I'd love to have Quest 3 asap but that's probably gonna take them some time.

[@21EC]

@@dtz1000 Are Sony going to make their HMD also work with PC's or it's an exclusive for PS5 only?

[@dtz1000]

@@21EC Probably they won't let the PSVR 2 work with PC but maybe someone can hack it to work. If Sony did make it work for PC then it would be game over for the overpriced Cambria and maybe Quest 3 if they give us LCD again. I'd much rather have OLED and a larger FOV than AR.

[@21EC]

@@dtz1000 I see, that's a bummer since that's exactly the direction I always wanted PC VR to take (or wireless VR), I wanted them to add better FOV of at least 120-130 degrees and OLED displays with high enough image sharpness like this of Quest 2, yeah, I also very much dislike LCD panels, that's one of the reasons for why I had to sell my Quest 2 (also bcs of its low FOV which ruins immersiveness).

[@Thezuule1]

I would have much preferred "it will work with a display port cable" rather than "it works with the link cable" personally. It can't be that hard to add to a premium headset.

[@ashleybarnes9343]

Yes this, I wish the new quest will have a display port cable its so much fucking better then a usbc cable

[@Thezuule1]

@@ashleybarnes9343 I can't imagine it would be expensive to add to the board, and even if it was, this is going to be a $1000+ headset so make it work. If it doesn't end up coming with one I may well just get a G2 or something to use as a dedicated PC headset. I am the person that would be in the market for something like Cambria but being stuck with Link and Air Link at that price point kind of sucks.

[@HiddenExp]

What is the Metaverse for you people? I feel that I know what is it but still can't put it in words, in all his extension.

[@jitone1]

I like your hat :)

[@jitone1]

My quest 1 will go bye bye soon. so sad

[@echelon2k8]

Anyone else here fear that even if the forced Facebook login requirement eventually goes away, having a Facebook account requirement won't?

[@michelverheijen6643]

They have never seen facebooks accounts rising like last years(it was dying). And never have old parents facebook accounts been active again(kids using parents accounts). So i really think they don't want too, because they allready have the perfect datacollector systeem (facebook). I think the oculus platform wasn't good for it (to suck every possible info out of you). So kick the last oculus employee out of your business and force a facebook account (shareholders glad, mark glad). Next time when you change a name to meta come with a meta account. But no oculus branding on the headset, meta logo with startup and a forced facebook account bahahaha. Who the hell was on that brainstorm day the shareholders themself?

[@dr3yec]

Nobody will be able to find it on the shelves.

[@butterysmooth5808]

They don't need to process all that data if they offload to pc and just stream to headset directly instead of through the laggy ass network

[@firstjayjay]

I hate facebook, almost as much as Crapple. But still want their headsets :(

[@MRCroosingTootH]

Just get over it man. It's not that big of a deal. Ur just believing all the bullshit.

[@zantrex4]

Give me Skyrim VR on Quest 2 and then fine, I'll have a reason to actually use the thing standalone lol.

[@zantrex4]

Or NMS.

[@urbanvr]

But can't they remain underpowered, with the introduction of meta super computers and cloud computing? I think that's what's coming.

[@jitone1]

nah the headset will be to heavy to work 8 -12hrs a day in.

[@chasekubesh9241]

Pog

[@roberthughes9494]

Air link dose not impress me, I have pixelation problems with it. I use Virtual desktop and never have any problems. And both are on wifi 6.

[@EricForPresident]

Virtual Desktop is far superior, and you know Meta hates that. Virtual Desktop is the way!

[@mjgrant298]

Airlink is unusable for me, whereas virtual desktop is buttery smooth 🤷

[@michaelsondag6187]

I have had a completely opposite experience. I have never been able to get playable performance out of VD. Airlink works flawlessly for me. The individual setup is likely the determining factor.

[@ForestTre]

They don't charge the price because it cost them that much to make. They charge a 1000 dollars because they know there's a lot of people stupid enough to pay more for some then its worth. So the only reason Meta wants a 1000 dollars is plain and simple greed. And I wont support greedy price gouging, so I will keep my Quest 2

[@DaveMcCammon]

I am fine with using a Facebook login.. it's meta. They are pushing the industry forward. I am happy to support. Not sure why people have such an issue.

[@MegaManNeo]

Because Meta collects ANY data it can get? Because Meta is known to manipulate people's view on the world and politics? Because their ecosystem isn't open unlike openVR which Steam uses as its basis? Because we need to have an account for the damn device to function in the first place?

[@DaveMcCammon]

@@MegaManNeo tesla collects data on there cars so they can make the service better. You need a tesla app in order to use your car, and see updates etc. Which they also use data from its users.. Google users user data in order to come up with new products for us to use to find things... do you like Google Maps? How about customer reviews of businesses? Politics are constantly manipulated from day 1. Most media companies are owned or paid for buy government.. so just listen to your candidate and what they stand for and vote. If meta uses my user info or data to understand how to improve their products and move the industry forward... all the power too them. Do you use Spotify? Netflix? Buy from Amazon? You don't think steam uses user data to help build out there business and create new products? Different opinions maybe some overlap.. just tired of everyone complaining about meta, yet happy when they come out with new products... they just lost a ton helping you to enjoy your products, and services that they built. Hope they can make a profit soon and find a way to produce income from it, so they can continue.

[@MegaManNeo]

@@DaveMcCammon I don't drive nor do I use Google outside of KZbin and banking software for my phone as this type of software hates when you fiddle around with Android. Other than that I am very careful what service to use and how, albeit by now I'd say that most services suck anyway and I'm fine with whatever runs locally with exception for Steam and KZbin perhaps.

[@Wooskii1]

I thought the FB req was already gone, guess I'm not getting a Quest 2 for PCVR... I think asynchronous VR games on PSVR2 (and PC too) would be a much better way to be in VR without isolating yourself. Just because other people can see what you're doing (on the TV/ monitor) and understand it, maybe even get intrigued and want to watch or play themselves, instead of not understanding and laughing at the stupid movements and invisible people your talking to. Imagine a game streamer sitting on an office chair in the middle of a totally empty room talking to "nobody" and making the mouse and keyboard movements... That's what we look like lol.

[@knytronomega2487]

Lol so i could sit on the couch with my girlfriend and have some beautiful naked women in the room she doesnt know about.

[@michelverheijen6643]

They could change the oculus to forced facebook account in 1,5 year(release quest1 to quest2). But now they have problems changing it? Bahahaha if his nose could grow for lying Bahahaha. I still don't own quest2 because of forced facebook account. I even buy games on pc because of it and because more and more developers forget about the quest1 nowadays(don't you forget about me bahahaha). My games still work great on oculus account without the social media bullshit apps wich i don't need facebook horizon etc. But the big question i have! Will i need a facebook account to still get accest to my paid games on the oculus store in 2023. Facebook said in the past we(the veteran oculus account warriors bahahaha) need a forced facebook account in 2023. Is this legal, ok maybe in the usa but i'm in europe and we( and the government and politics) care a lot more about privacy and data and rights etc. I want a answer otherwise if have to finish lone echo 2 before 2023 bahahaha. And still after all they have done for vr(destroy the competition with cheap headset, the new business model bahahaha) i say they stink? You can change your name but never your tricks.

[@sloinvestor]

Waste of energy

[@EricForPresident]

Fine next one better. Bet. ;)

[@sloinvestor]

@@EricForPresident not you amigo, PCVR requires to much energy, too much electricity