New Rule: Past & Furious | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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[@revolutioninthespiri]

"You're not morally better than your grandparents. You just came later" - That was awesome.

[@commmander64]

Unironically, the reverse is even more true.

[@crowonthepowerlines]

I would argue that I am morally better because I came later. People have evolved and society will better reflect that as more boomers die off.

[@KnarfStein]

@@toddsleezer3580 Respect is earned, not freely given. There're plenty of old dumb f**ks out there.

[@psychedelicfright85]

@@crowonthepowerlines now we only have Gen X to keep the sanity of society from these PC turds... destroying society since 2012.

[@lacedemonians]

If Google bioengineered oompa loompa slaves, every "progressive" control freak would buy them, just as they support de facto slavery & child labor & bio-warfare whenever buying goods from China

[@CloudsGirl7]

It's true. People evolve. But the ones I fear are those who have *pretended* to evolve.

[@threelittlebirdz]

And how can you tell when they don't evolve until the polls tell them to?

[@LCarefortheworld]

We owe Hilary an apology. When she changes... people said nasty things.

[@ThePebbleTribe]

@@LCarefortheworld Hillary deserves an apology from her own campaign

[@teebee1103]

CloudsGirl7 We can name them. Every candidate is funded by companies and billionaire wealth. EXCEPT Bernie Sanders. Look at the data, not polls. NY Times donor map article.

[@MrJonsonville5]

That's why it's awesome that we have a candidate who has never needed to evolve because he's been on point since the 60s. Why back an "evolving" candidate when you can have the real deal?

[@abyz5147]

Bill Maher is the most sane, logical, and honest liberal I've seen. He's the role model of liberalists, REAL liberalists. The down road that liberalism went to and be "Social Liberalism" is the dead end of moral principles that Liberalism used to have. Those liberals whom Bill Maher always make fun of are the ones who distorted the core principles of liberalism.

[@anonymousperson6119]

For the most part I agree. It’s when he says stupid things like he hopes for a recession that I can’t stand him. I thought liberals were supposed to care about the working class.

[@betoestrada3248]

@@anonymousperson6119 he didn’t care then he doesn’t care now

[@michelmontvert2542]

I agree mostly, especially so much of the twitterie among Millennial "leftists" which goes on while they largely ignore the economy. Women, gays, trans, non-whites, dispossessed white working class, ALL of us benefit if we unite as LIBERALS for decent wages, equal treatment, opportunity, local economic health. We can talk about the pronouns and such but not to the exclusion of all that.

[@DarkKnight-yz2wg]

@@anonymousperson6119 What many have seem to forget about moderate liberals are that they are fiscally conservative; in some cases as Republicans. Having an actual depression, as opposed to a recession is what the market needs to correct itself. We have an excess waste in every aspect of our economy because of inflationary tactics. It sucks, but the sooner the better. We haven’t learned from 08. We made it much worse. Look at our housing market…..

[@artzreal]

that's funny, because the last time I checked Maher played a video of Trump's controversial phrases back in the 80's, speaking as if he was inherently a bad President for saying that stuff back in the day.. more like an hypocrite, to be fair

[@GreatWhiteGT]

Thanks Bill... I've been having this dialogue in my own head for years. Glad to know I'm not alone.

[@DonnaBrooks]

I've been preaching this message to others for years!

[@chaseberwick7801]

Here's your trophy 🏆

[@chaseberwick7801]

🥈

[@Hahaa99]

Cheers to everyone here 👋

[@AceofDlamonds]

Ethics is relative for sure!!

[@MichaelLee-eh8li]

Bernie is the only one who has been fighting for the issues the last 50 years.

[@Alexa-Raine]

That's extremely dismissive... Tunnel vision is bad for the eyes.. and logic..

[@Alexa-Raine]

@Jason Tempel Picked a good number to cut out MLK and JFK, though..

[@mokiloke]

@@Alexa-Raine Those too would probably both be removed from office when we judge by todays standards, with PC and metoo. Those are some of my heros that PC is coming for.

[@Alexa-Raine]

@@mokiloke That's likely true... though I like to think that the best people of their time weren't set in that way, but rather were the people best able to change with and represent The People.

[@Establishmentsucks]

Pointing out that Bernie is the only candidate that has fought for these issues the last 50 years is just pointing out a fact. You decided to connect your own dots and call it dismissive.

[@chriskramer2340]

The question is not "do people evolve?" but "do people admit they were wrong?". And Bill, Bernie has been fighting for 40 years for issues that weren't populair then, like gay rights, black rights and so on. He DID see the future...

[@Alexa-Raine]

Sooo, every time someone changes their mind, they need to tell you they were wrong? That should be implied and is saying more about you than anyone...

[@lohphat]

Chris Kramer Who cares how long Bernie was fighting. Politics is a team sport and he should have been building a team of like minded allies. He didn’t. It did it alone. Like Lieberman he’s I it it for himself.

[@Alexa-Raine]

@@lohphat So logical... Being the sole person fighting for everyone is so selfish..

[@blackout07blue]

Warren/Sanders 2020

[@Alexa-Raine]

@Cardinal Yo-Yo I don't know or care about these political charades put on to keep us busy.. i was just adding some objective logic to this fight. It so badly lacks it these days..

[@mikeesernia4281]

"I know Mom and Dad told you you're exceptional, but not to the point of seeing the future." PREACH!!!

[@sly_tendencies87]

"I've been going through an evolution on this issue." Translation, "looks like the opinion polls hit 51 percent."

[@danielkokal8819]

exactly.... politicians arent leaders, they are followers. I'll be in favor of it when its safe to say so. Obama never cared a whit about gay marriage either way. The founding fathers didnt start the revolution. That was already happening (Boston tea party).. they just moved in to fill the power vacuum left by the exiting British.

[@BobfatherGaming]

Better than those that wait until the opinion polls hit 10%

[@lacywhitevalenti7234]

And in a REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY why is that bad? Shouldn't we want our leaders...REPRESENTING our views? Politicians aren't czars nor should they be.

[@sly_tendencies87]

@@lacywhitevalenti7234 that's the problem. We shouldn't have to wait til 51% until we give people equal rights. Listen to yourself clown.

[@lacywhitevalenti7234]

@@sly_tendencies87 We shouldn't expect our leaders to be kings. We should expect better out of our fellow man. Also, Obama was for equal rights, but he was for calling the certificate by a different name. But anyways, the overall point is that we never should have a situation where 51% aren't for equal rights. Right now, if the politicians followed what the majority of people want? We'd have more gun control, more progressive taxes on the rich, cheaper higher education, better health care, etc etc. So maybe it's not such a bad thing when the president follows the will of the people?

[@zaloo]

funny tho, the verboten name, Bernie Sanders, WAS on the right side of ALL of these issues his whole life. but the Rules are to ignore that. it's just glaringly uncanny.

[@vanessaowiredu2983]

john z erm he was pro NRA. Voted for the crime bill. Do your research

[@brainflash1]

Why? Everyone in America was willing to ignore his record until we needed an excuse not to vote for Hillary in 2016.

[@iriya3227]

Velesl Stop spreading BS! He was against NRA even in the 80s when it was deeply unpopular. He had lowest grade by NRA lobbyist. He also voted against the crime bill while Biden voted for it.

[@muhammadsaqeeb5298]

@@iriya3227 technically he voted for it, bc Biden wrapped the bill with the violence against women act

[@minhocho5487]

@@vanessaowiredu2983 he has a low grade with the NRA and if you see the reason why he voted for the bill was clearly different than Biden. The better criticism I think we can find of Bernie was that he too like Harris and Biden was against busing.

[@robertvecchiarello4863]

“People need to stop pretending if they were alive back when they wouldn’t have been same asshole like everybody else” Bill Maher. Ty Bill !

[@kc414]

Mic drop evidence of your awesome moral superiority - Perfect summary for today's PC culture

[@inthevault9603]

And that’s why Democrats continue and will continue lose elections. Need to get our/their sh*t together before Trump gets another 4 years bc all the PC bullsh*t. If we lose again we deserve it because we’re wrong about the little things and for some reason that’s what matters in elections.

[@fuzzypanda1684]

Your comment has increased in value more than bitcoin lol

[@hariseldon3786]

Bill is one of the few Liberal voices with a reasonable social voice...

[@dr.floridamanphd]

@Jared Falk I disagree. He’s on way more than he’s off.

[@dr.floridamanphd]

@Jared Falk, cite some of his claims you feel are off and why.

[@SickMetalAddict]

@Jared Falk yea i've seen him a few times support the welfare state that doesn't help the poor it only creates joblessness and pushes inflation higher

[@chrisjuricichxl5]

@Jared Falk yes he is...ha ha, no who the fuck knows, nyway? I find him entertaining and very sensible in many regards. No doubt my daughter is outraged by his anti-woke sentiments.

[@noahdiluca9857]

@@SickMetalAddict that’s not his social voice that’s his economic voice. Social and economic issues are different and @Hari Seldon was talking about social

[@traviscutler9912]

Actually Bill, Bernie HAS been calling it since the 70's, that's the point.

[@Elfunko99x]

@J Jackson only cause hes a blowhard for Obama 🤣

[@thewolfdoctor761]

So anyone whose opinions have evolved should be eliminated ?

[@awesomewxyz7083]

And what impact did Bernie have in the 4 decades before 2016? Close to none... Joe Biden on the other hand made a compromise with the segregationist to also do other good things. Obama compromised gay rights for Medicare. Easy to say the right things in a corner. Harder to be on the front lines, bring people together, make compromises and improve step by step.

[@StormcastMarine]

Exactly this, because Bernie is a leader, he saw the moral high ground and the better ideas before any of the sheeple running against him.

[@StormcastMarine]

@@thewolfdoctor761 no, but if you have a candidate that didn't have to "evolve", why not pick that candidate? Biden was shamed into evolving to Bernie's position on several topics... that's not evolving.

[@PockASqueeno]

I’m no Democrat. I wouldn’t even consider myself “liberal.” But I have mad respect for any political commentator who’s willing to criticize his own side just as much as the opposite side. I’ve found that conservatives and Republicans unfortunately tend to lack this ability.

[@dutchgala826]

*"Little Harper"* lmao

[@Zeldarw104]

Ikr!!?😁😂😂

[@benh9164]

Thank you for pointing out that you can't judge the character of a person from 200 years ago by today's standards. Some day we will all be vilified for buying sweatshop produced clothes and technology.

[@kevinreynolds2749]

and factory farming and maybe eating animals.

[@bearclaw5115]

Very funny segment and true. Still taking a pass on Biden. Two candidates have been fighting on the right side for a long time now, Bernie and Elizabeth.

[@juandominguez8536]

Bear Claw far left Elizabeth Warren getting the nomination will guarantee 4 more years of Trump

[@hubgiles7889]

P/VP ? a match made in heaven & I don't care which one is the "groom".

[@kefkapalazzo1]

Juan Carlos Dominguez she’s more popular and supports more popular policy positions.

[@thisisnotmyname8766]

Juan Carlos Dominguez It doesn’t matter if you are far left or far right these days. Trump is far right, yet he won. Why? Because he gave his base what they wanted to hear, therefore they went out to vote for him. If a democratic candidate was unapologetic to the left, then the left base will go out to support him/her. It’s all about turnout.

[@kefkapalazzo1]

w9j15g I mean back then the republicans weren’t extremists, at least not in the way they are now

[@ASLEFshrugged]

People in the future will be horrified at the cost of health care in the USA in the late 20th/early 21st century. Actually forget the future, people in Europe are horrified at the cost of health care in the USA right now. Born in the NHS.

[@TheCulturedThug]

The NHS is dog shit and you’re an harmful idiot for supporting it fuck off to the continent if you wanna keep selling needless suffering and death to the yanks

[@sedonars1]

@Fernando Gonzalez How many Americans were killed last week, and every week before that from Terrorism in this country? Just because the MSM doesn't call it terrorism, does NOT mean we aren't dying from Terrorism. btw, it's over 20,000 people per year!!!!!! No country , with the possible exception of Russia, has more per capita deaths from domestic terrorism than the USA..............we're number one! We're number one! we're number one!

[@artistdogboy]

Notice how Maher doesn't mention Bernie's 50 years of consistency on the issues.

[@artistdogboy]

@Melissa Hudson I think Clinton run and cheating DNC and Obama gave us Trump, actually. Also NAFTA and the democrats pushing the TPP and Clinton's corruption, her not going to Wisconsin, Republican voter suppression across the nation. The theory has been debunked numerous times.

[@nedlightowlers5168]

@Melissa Hudson A much larger proportion of Clinton voters refused to vote for Obama than Sanders voters refused to vote for Clinton. Hillary lost because she was a terrible candidate, blaming voters because you failed to win them over or give them a reason to support you is beyond stupid.

[@patsmith2571]

The Democrats have failed to rally the best leader in America. Bernie Sanders.

[@6d9dnd74]

That Melissa chick is a stupid bastard 😂

[@jlrinc1420]

@@artistdogboy yeah nobody talks about voter suppression

[@jirkak5998]

108% right delivered with pure geniality, Mr. Maher, Sir, I salute to you!

[@SNAPVegan]

...except Bernie, who made all the right votes and predicted exactly what would happen ...and it did.

[@qwkimball]

Sure, taking all that NRA money, that was WOKE!

[@SNAPVegan]

@@qwkimball He has an F rating with NRA - show me where he has EVER taken money from the NRA. He hasn't.

[@Alexa-Raine]

@@qwkimball Wow.. you're in the wrong reality..

[@qwkimball]

www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-awkward-history-with-guns-in-america-119185

[@Alexa-Raine]

@@qwkimball nice job proving yourself wrong.. maybe you should read what you linked. Ffs..

[@dainiu]

Future generations will not understand: 1. How we burnt fossil fuels for a 5-7 seater vehicle, to drive around just one person? 2. How we consumed plastics for a few minutes, that then took hundreds of years to decompose? 3. How we bought expensive sound systems, only to listen to Justin Beiber?

[@claudiachiarito]

We eat animals. Well some humans do that

[@jackmabel6067]

"Future generations will not understand:" That's supposing that there will be future generations.

[@nedlightowlers5168]

Nah Justin Bieber has made some absolute bangers

[@dainiu]

@@claudiachiarito NO one can escape eating Kingdom Animalia. For example, "vegan" ketchup contains 200 parts per million of insects. Almost every food has fauna in it.

[@stephenbingham5935]

Or how with the amazing variety of foodstuffs and cuisines on this planet..... you people came up with McDonalds and Colonel greasy chicken.. Then turned it into corporations and put people into infantile uniforms. They are just chickens and burgers, for fuck's sake.

[@MichaelBrown-lw5zh]

Sometimes they evolve so I watch their behaviors. If you change because of sagging polls, you're counterfiet

[@desimc89]

Does counterfeit really matter if it's a choice between whoever becomes the Democratic candidate and Trump? Let's say Yang becomes the nominee, and based on sagging polls he changes a policy to make Dem leaning voters happy. A sane and reasonable voter will choose Yang regardless. 100 million Americans didn't vote in 2016, and look what happened ("If Trump wins, nothing bad will happen"). A Dem president will do the right thing for health care, climate change, good-paying green jobs, student debt, etc.

[@fadenmac8092]

Exactly! The country needs to evolve to Medicare for all! What is wrong with people?! Why do so many Americans remain on welfare and disability...because of the healthcare. If everyone has healthcare, a lot people accepting assistance would go back to work. Stop being fooled by the media. Vote Bernie!!!

[@doesnotcompute3174]

Adam-Wade Stop pretending as if you’re making an intellectually honest argument. Just because a candidate “evolves” according to the polls doesn’t mean they will actually keep their promises. Biden was forced to “evolve” on several issues in this election. There’s no way in hell he would’ve “evolved” from his center-right dipshit positions if there wasn’t a push towards the left. Sane people are tired of playing the lesser of two evils game every goddamn time when we can actually elect someone who we KNOW will do the right thing.

[@MichaelBrown-lw5zh]

@@doesnotcompute3174 Folks seem to have lost their BS detector!

[@francescoazzoni3445]

Even if in their heart don't believe what they say, is it really a problem? If they enact policies in that sense, it's good enough for me

[@heather1506]

Bill is right. We can’t judge people from the past by today’s standards.

[@christopherhughes9787]

That won't stop them when they have a chance to virtue signal.

[@artzreal]

funny you say that, because the last time I checked Maher played a video of Trump's controversial phrases back in the 80's, speaking as if he was inherently a bad President for saying that stuff back in the day.. Bill is right, but he's also an hypocrite

[@LiveLoveLevelUp]

I love how everyone's on the Bernie 🚂 hell yes!

[@wendysmarts1985]

I'm not. I'm in the YANG GANG!!!

[@jivet3919]

Wendy Wedding You wastin your vote vote.

[@web-angel]

Me too!! I'm really heartened!!

[@ConfederateBob]

Me too!! Talk about a Crazy Train!!!! United idiots, way easy to be identified!

[@web-angel]

@@ConfederateBob don't worry, you'll LOVE your healthcare.

[@DeFaulty101]

How about picking the guy who was saying the same, correct things since before the dinosaurs went extinct?

[@brainflash1]

Because saying the right thing when it isn't popular doesn't get you elected. Do you really not understand how democracy works?

[@ragingmonk6080]

That animal doesn't exist. We are talking about reality after all.

[@rezolutionist7715]

BERNIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

[@threelittlebirdz]

@@brainflash1 these things are now popular. That's why we are even having this discussion.

[@ragingmonk6080]

@@rezolutionist7715 Is a fool.

[@joesephwillmore9872]

I'm pretty conservative for the most part but I really do enjoy Bill. Even though I don't agree with some things he says; but im totally open to new ideas especially with some humor behind them.

[@mikejonesnoreally]

I really appreciate your open mindedness! It's why we study and respect your beliefs as well. :D

[@pilkpog7952]

humour is a great way to convey a message, isnt it?

[@joesephwillmore9872]

@@pilkpog7952 it really is, makes you think about it a little bit more because it speaks to you in a way that lightens the heaviness of it all

[@pilkpog7952]

@@joesephwillmore9872 ive learned so much about history just on youtube because they explain it in a funny, simple way

[@TheSmellymuffin11]

I’m sitting here with stretched ears laughing my ass off

[@rve420]

As California Attorney General Kamala let Steve Mnuchin off the hook, he then later contributed to her campaign for Senate. Convenient to leave that out.

[@briankoski2532]

Seriously? Mnuchin paid Kamala?

[@web-angel]

She also arrested many people for marijuana but Bill wants us to think that that doesn't matter. SMH

[@keenkingjames]

Maher is saying, forget about their past, and he’s referring to things that happened in the last five years. 🙄

[@Diogenes2036]

Tulsi was clear. She asked for an apology. We're still waiting. Tulsi had bad gay views and she APOLOGIZED.

[@anesthesiaawareness8614]

Thank You For Your Cervix I think he is saying Tulsi apologized and her voting record shows she changed her mind. He is saying that Tulsi said that Kamala should apologize, and she didn’t. Tulsi did.

[@Diogenes2036]

@Thank You For Your Cervix That's my point when you are wrong, you admit and apologize. Kamala has said she is proud of what she has done. Even Biden apologized for his part in the Iraq war effort.

[@joeterzio7175]

@Thank You For Your Cervix Her anti-gay views went beyond 18 and even when I was 18 way back in 1984 I didn't come close to espousing anything close to gay conversion therapy like she did. None of the other candidates did no matter their age

[@camabron1]

Gabbard is a deplorable Assad apologist. She's a deplorable.

[@SavoirRare]

"It's on microfiche". Mike drop.

[@peg202xo7]

That thing used to make me go cross-eyed, glad it's gone!!

[@LubaFan]

Mike who?

[@patrickrada2923]

@@fkrkf The point is that these progressives are looking for statements from sources that have been stored in archives on microfiche. What an effort just to find anything negative about a person that they said or did years or decades ago. What kind of personality do you have to have to do something like this? *facepalm*

[@flexibleatheist]

This was as funny as it was profound. Spot on brilliant.

[@jaimedelgado7529]

Bernie has been around for ages. why cant anyone dig up dirt on the guy? Bill stop shilling for Biden ... oh yeah smoking weed isnt edgy anymore. thought somebody should tell u

[@HookupsJZA]

And yet he'd probably shill for anti pot Kamala... 😥

[@kjamison5951]

jaime delgado Perhaps Bernie has no dirt to dig up, no skeletons in his closet, he’s just been switched on to what really matters for all people, all along...

[@NitoNova]

Lol! I cringe when they applaud his "cool" pot smoking like he's so edgy. Lol! Fuck outta here with that crap. Shilling for wars & big pharma disqualifies you from "Woke-ville" buddy😌

[@alQarafi]

@@kjamison5951 Bernie has a clean record of no accomplishments.

[@jaimedelgado7529]

@@kjamison5951 well yeah that was my point.

[@YellowSpaceMarine]

It's not learning it's opportunism. Nothing wrong with listening to voters, but let's not pretend all these people had some kind of awakening.

[@ssssss2462]

YellowSpaceMarine They are not coming over for dinner and are not going to your bff.

[@badbanana0]

Bernies been saying the same thing for 40 years. #Bernie2020

[@badbanana0]

@monokhem Which of Bernie's policies is stupid?

[@jaem.1565]

Not, only that, Bill Maher with the obscured vision of his privilege, doesnt realize that the reason these issues like Biden's opposition to bussing (i.e. integration) are being discussed now, was because when those issues were occurring 30 yrs ago Black people in America did not have a voice on the political stage, literally or figuratively. Kamala Harris is literally on the stage, because of bussing , which was necessary for her to get a good education because the Black schools were so underfunded and neglected by government (still are). Harris also threaded the needle when she made the argument that Biden's willingness to COMPROMISE on issues such as bussing would actually COMPROMISE people and make their lives worse off. Biden is the one who brought up his great relationship with segregationists, while his entire stance in this election is that he will be willing to work with Repubicans. His worldview, that compromising with people that he doesnt agree with morally is the way to get things done is PROBLEMATIC A.F. and precisley why he should not be elected. The Republicans take no prisoners and DNGAF. The Democratic nominee should deeply understand that. Compromising , means Biden will accomplish nothing meaningful, which is exactly why he told his donors "IF i'm elected, nothing will change"

[@ssssss2462]

Mario He hasn’t. He has changed on things like gun control and immigration. He’s a politician not a god.

[@kenritz1617]

Love his clips. Top notch writing, and spot on commentary. Kudos Bill.

[@musicvixen24]

Some folks evolve and others evolve to stay relevant in politics and win. There’s a difference.

[@danielkokal8819]

correct.... Bill doesnt say how you are supposed to know what is authentic evolving and what is political expedience. like Hillary's phony accents and pandering.

[@autopilot1569]

Stop selling Joe Bidden on us. Bernie 2020!!!

[@juraj_b]

well he burnt him quite a bit! Bernie all the way..

[@autopilot1569]

Bruce Leroy not a Bernie kool aid drinker to be honest, but it’s known that Bernie has been the most consistent with his beliefs. While all other candidates are being called out for their past questionable policies and you’ve got all these medias defending them.

[@mr.h5436]

maybe Bernie should have joined the democratic party.

[@autopilot1569]

Mr. H , actually I thought he’d be just as good if he ran as independent.

[@AnexoRialto]

@Bruce Leroy The Bernie cult does scare me. Not nearly as much as the Trump cult because they haven't killed people, but another cult gives me pause.

[@austenhead5303]

Funny how Bernie Sanders could apparently "see the future" and managed to be on the right side of every social AND political issue way before mainstream culture shifted to match his views. Individuals CAN be more evolved than the majority of their peers and therefore "ahead of their time". Many are. We aren't all just going with whatever the mainstream culture says. Some of us learn to question conventional norms and actually think for ourselves. Bernie did. Clearly, as his very long and well documented record shows. He never had to be dragged to the right side of history by popular opinion and poll numbers, like his colleagues. So why precisely should we settle for a mediocre thinker like Biden when we have someone like Bernie on offer? We're electing a leader, yes? Not an office temp? We're allowed to demand actual leadership ability and independent thinking skills? Yes? No? Should we just settle for a Biden because, what, he eventually came around?

[@cachi-7878]

Yes, fuck creepy Uncle Joe, we want a true Progressive like Bernie. Sorry Bill, I love you but you’re wrong. We’re not settling for mediocre, “moderate” corporate centrist Democrats. We need a leader who will propel us to the level of true developed countries and modern societies such as Scandinavian and other European countries. Bernie 2020!

[@lonelyone]

I think he's following the polling. He did say this episode that Elizabeth Warren was the new Bernie. He just wants someone who will appeal to everyone and win with a landslide victory. I think in his heart he's still a true Bernie supporter, but he's just facing the facts.

[@hubgiles7889]

@@cachi-7878 You smell like a Republican too.

[@roypiper581]

Bernie just wants to take everyone's money and then have the government dole it out as it sees fit. No thanks.

[@mikeharrison1868]

@@roypiper581 not how it works in Europe, and most of Europe works a lot better, in many respects, than the USA.

[@CaptnButch]

Thank you Bill. We all needed to hear that. Great message.

[@mossbergshockwave9629]

Millennials are an upgrade??? 😂😂 they can't even leave their mom's house!!

[@mossbergshockwave9629]

@Colin Cleveland filled with errors

[@TheTotalRecap]

Yet Bernie, who is older than Biden (not by much) has been consistent for decades. So no, Joe doesn’t get a pass for it being a “different time.” Bernie was right then, he’s right now. Sure Biden can evolve and be a part of the fight, that’s great. If he’s the nominee I’ll vote for him. But this is a primary, and Biden is so so so low on my list. I used to love Bill Maher, watched his show every week, went and saw his standup. He was a blunt leftist, but now he’s a corporate democrat apologist.

[@Gymnopediea]

Bernie was wrong on the Crime Bill of 1994.

[@TheTotalRecap]

john smith I agree, but in a primary I’m going to go with the person who was right from the get-go if that’s an option, and Bernie is that option.

[@TheTotalRecap]

john smith Denmark, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Iceland. You’re wrong. I win.

[@TheTotalRecap]

john smith No one has died because of socialism. We have people dying under capitalism though. We need a social democracy, which is what Bernie is advocating for.

[@jstnsmutek]

The future people will be laughing at us for using toilet paper instead of the 3 shells

[@mikejonesnoreally]

Be Well Kind Citizen! xD

[@lukeclarke267]

And poor old Bill would have been fined more than a few times for that potty mouth!

[@christopherhughes9787]

I see what you did there...

[@ccampbell02yt]

One of the better rants he's done lately.

[@jacquievansickle]

Right on!!! Great truth and wisdom, Bill!

[@EricGyamfighettotastic]

I guess it true what they say...the older you get the more conservative you get. I'm not sure politically correct bill would agree with today's bill

[@GreenDragon11]

Eric Gyamfi Spot on! I have been dismayed at his last several shows and now this waist of time, pointless rhetoric especially when there are topics that deserve to be highlighted!

[@juyifan7933]

You realize bill was never politically correct? Thats his whole thing, the man lost a show for making politically incorrect comments about 9/11. I still fail to understand what has bill said that is in any way conservative.

[@stevefg3067]

And the little kid that you were would disagree that you don't believe in Santa Claus. I think you missed the point...

[@wrv341]

Um... It was called politically incorrect. Boy, modern liberals are antonyms to what they were literally just a few years ago.

[@DorvellTStewart]

When has Bill been politically correct, Eric?

[@janitee]

But is it evoluution or evidence of being influenced by money interes? Why not vote for someone who has been on the right side of issues all the time.

[@silverbullet3939]

Who's that? Jesus Christ?

[@kefkapalazzo1]

Silver Bullet Bernie

[@adrianam5614]

I believe it is evolution. I have experienced it. Haven't you?

[@kefkapalazzo1]

monokhem this is factually true, but Bernie

[@capitalh1895]

​@@silverbullet3939 Well there is a jew who dabbled in carpentry in his youth thats running who fits that definition better than the others... ;)

[@Khalsaakalpurakhkifauj76]

Bill Maher has converted political comedy to an art form....

[@imnedmonton]

Passionate, balanced, funny material and great facial expressions. Fantastic performer.

[@nothankyooo]

Bernie has been correct on all the issues for decades. Still waiting for Maher to endorse him but not holding my breath on that one.

[@jjdillon23]

Rape fantasies, environmental racism, gun manufacturer support? This is "right on the issues" to Berniebaggers?

[@nothankyooo]

monokhem Bernie has never praised the ussr

[@Jennifer-hn9lg]

@monokhem And what did he say about the ussr that you find so offensive? That in the 1980s they had better subways and more sustainable farming practices than us, really that upsets you?

[@dinobotpwnz]

We need to stop caring about endorsements. They seem to have a 2 month expiry date anyway now. Maher endorsed Bernie awhile ago and seems to have changed his mind. Gravel endorsed Tulsi awhile ago and now it's Bernie.

[@ytyt3922]

Give it up. Bernie is past his prime. I prefer Andrew Yang.

[@roamsy]

Bill is making the same mistake of 2016...propping up a weak establishment candidate that Americans dont really want.

[@SatoshiMatrix1]

Maher is right that most people evolve. But some people were evolved decades ahead of time, like Bernie Sanders, who was evolved on women's rights, social justice and many other things literally DECADES before it was woke. That's why it's important to vote for Bernie and not Biden. Biden follows trends. Bernie sets them.

[@lisalindsey277]

Some people are ahead of their time. Most of us are simply products of our time. We depend on the enlightened ones to blaze the trail. I'm thinking mainly of Frederick Douglass, Susan B. Antony, Gandhi, Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King.

[@daveyhouston]

A jew cannot be president of the United states it is a wasted vote you cannot erase anti semitism it is the one predjudice that has not changed over the centuries case and point charlottesville Pennsylvania and California I rest my case

[@lindenstromberg6859]

Bernie never set those trends. We had all the stuff Bernie Sanders is going for in Europe as early as the late 19th century. Also, he keeps changing the definition of socialism. It's good that the US is finally going for those things, but introducing standard policies of Western nations is hardly revolutionary.

[@Mephistahpheles]

And some people devolve. Case in point: Bill Maher

[@Mephistahpheles]

@David Roberts People like Maher are why Trump will win again.

[@Kwame1983]

History is important. Yes as we grow we may judged by the future morality, but that is the most impressive part of the evolution. People must be held accountable for their actions, that is the cornerstone of civility. What would prove that these politicians have grown is the phrase 'I was wrong'.

[@chrisb8655]

@Sir_Strokinov Yep, yep, yep.

[@Elonfuckingmusk]

If you wanna learn more about Bernie Sanders go watch him on Joe Rogans podcast. I feel like he’s exactly the kind of guy we need in the office right now.

[@pragmaticcynicism6911]

1. Bussing is still a thing. 2. Opposing legalization of marijuana was the least-worst thing about Kamala Harris's record. 3. There have always been people fighting to end slavery & liberate women. 4. Not everyone evolves as a person, and lying, opportunistic narcissists are least likely to.

[@hubgiles7889]

She still would make a good AG for Elizabeth Warren.

[@TjamVideoMan]

5. Every numbered list should have at LEAST 5 points!

[@cleopatrajones2024]

You missed the point. Lighten UP. He was using examples. OMG.

[@pragmaticcynicism6911]

monokhem Maybe, but not quite as deluded as Bill Maher and his writers.

[@jewel1608]

STOP IT!!!! Bill...YOU are SOooo RIGHT!!!!! #GROW UP folks!!!!!!

[@Gen-XTex]

I remember the street drains on my street growing up were where men poured their old motor oil from their trucks. It wasn’t like my father was the only one doing it. Every street drain had a black oily spot where everyone poured their oil. There was nothing unusual about it.

[@KyleDilkington]

Being against busing desegregation sounded bad in the 70s Bill. These New Rule segments should be renamed: Out of Touch Elite Spits in the Face of the Democratic Base

[@Itachipwnsnubcakes]

KyleDilkington while his defense of Biden is definitely over the top I think the general point is on we do seem to act like all the sudden we’re just this woke country who would’ve been in your face progressive in the 70s and 80s when in reality the vast majority of people who now consider themselves progressives would’ve been the same assholes as the rest of the country at that time

[@KyleDilkington]

@@Itachipwnsnubcakes I understand the point he's trying to make. But since he's making this point in reference to the 2020 election, it falls flat. Especially when you compare the past rhetoric of candidates like Biden and Harris to that of Bernie. Good luck finding Bernie saying something as appalling.

[@veronicaswystun2235]

Busing created its own set of problems, and the real solution was to improve school standards for ALL , especially in the poorer [black] neighbourhoods. I believe that you are not in touch with the issue from the 70's but somehow feel qualified to make a judgment on it. Your lack of interpretation skills is evident again in the fact that this New Rules segment is just about trying to elevate the topics of debate for the candidates, to matters that are relevant and important now.

[@KyleDilkington]

@@veronicaswystun2235 not really. This is just out of touch Bill trying to shit on this generation for supporting actual progressives. Instead of status quo corporatists.

[@Based_Proletariat]

There’s nothing “PC” about being a decent human being.

[@msaoichan]

Mostly because the people who are the most strident about enforcing political correctness are about as decent a group of people as the likes of Jimmy Swaggart or Ted Haggard.

[@GARY84ROCKS]

"PC" is a rotten movement.

[@Ghost8386]

@@GARY84ROCKS Cool Story Bro 😒 😒😒 😒🙄.

[@druehood-mcfadden5465]

Thank you Bill, this needed to be said by someone high status on our side. I'm not a fan of Kamala or Biden but this arrogant and ignorant perception by people that they somehow would have been more righteous than everyone else during a past time period needs to end. It's completely out of touch and self-indulgent.

[@fede2]

Let's talk about "out of touch": Biden cosinged on a segregationist policy *a dacade after* the Civil Rights Act. "Pobody's nerfect" is a bad way to explain away racism at a time when it was already unpopular. On top of that, when confronted about it in the Year of Our Lord 2019, not only does he not even gesture in the general direction of regret, but in fact attempts to rationalise that move on the grounds of "compromise". Essentially, he continues to defend the mechanism by which horrendous policies are enhacted. Whether or not he continues to be a racist (or even if he ever was a racist) makes 0 practical difference. Biden is a groping mysogynist with no clear vision or policy proposal whose brain is melting in real time to boot. There are nearly 30 other contenders competing with him, plenty of which can claim the "electabily" factor (read: "old, rich, white male"). His presence will not be missed.

[@druehood-mcfadden5465]

I'm not sure how you managed to misinterpret what I said as specifically defending Biden, especially since I explicitly said I was not a fan of him. It's also ironic considering it would seem you were out of touch with what I said while simultaneously trying to lecture me about being out of touch lol This recent business with the records of Biden and Harris is just a flash point in the modern mainstream conversation regarding the deeper discussion about the limits of applying modern sensibilities to past events. This is something my fellow liberals and progressives tend to overreach on, and I am happy Bill is calling this behavior out. That said, your response was well written and we can both agree that Biden is a cancer in this election. Cheers

[@fede2]

@@druehood-mcfadden5465 I eas refering to Biden being out of touch, not you. My point was that the issue surrounding Biden, as I think I managed to explain, cannot be chalked up to "past regrets" one outgrows with time. It's not nitpicky to call out Biden on this front nor is he a hill to die on.

[@grege5074]

if everyone was in favour of the underground railroad in the 19th century it wouldn't have needed to be underground.

[@a.d.peterson1981]

Nope. Different era. SAME PROBLEMS!

[@Eamon2Please412]

Can we just rename New Rules “Old Man Yells At Cloud” and be done with it?

[@lalola5586]

i second. Billy boy your age is showin'.

[@solushex]

Looks like bad news for the ...aher family.

[@phil5569]

This whole monologue was BRILLIANT. Love the show Bill!

[@brautigan81]

Wow, this might be my favorite rant of his. So funny and yet so insightful.

[@DeadUnicornClub]

Bill said Biden 'evolved' on the issues brought up. BUT HE DIDN'T AND THATS THE POINT. He still holds those old view he had 30 years ago. Also LOOKING AN OFFICIAL'S RECORD IS HOW WE JUDGE THE JOB THEY DID. He didn't just say something in poor taste, he legislated it. He was for a crime bill that was terrible, and said he was still for at the the beginning of this year. THE ONLY REASON HE CHANGES FOR POLITICAL CALCULATION AND IT'S OBVIOUS TO EVERYONE BUT OLD MAN MAHER.

[@Alexa-Raine]

Yeah, it was all Biden's fault.. Not the millions who agreed or his constituents who wanted it. Representatives of The People should only represent their own views to keep things clear.

[@thirdbnico]

@@Alexa-Raine Sanders saw the problem with the crime bill though, would you rather have leader that looks at things with foresight or hindsight?

[@Alexa-Raine]

@@thirdbnico Neither. Because we don't have leaders in America.. 😧 This is a Democratic Republic, not a dictatorship... they are representatives to follow The People's will.

[@thirdbnico]

@@Alexa-Raine "neither" so you don't want a leader who can see the correct course of action and you don't want a leader to acknowledge when they were wrong on a topic?

[@thirdbnico]

@@Alexa-Raine so what's the point of a president if we don't have a leader? He (or she) is the highest government position in America.

[@Mkalx18]

Its true people evolve but I'd like to point out that Sen. Bernie Sanders has not only been right in just about every issue since 1960, but he's been consistent not evolving because of new popular opinion but just being right because its morally correct to do so.

[@hubgiles7889]

I love the Bern too. But Liz Warren has the ammunition & some of the Republican voters. A lot of my Repub friends like her also. We need Repub's to switch.

[@garym6338]

Morally correct is highly subjective.

[@Mkalx18]

@@hubgiles7889 Bernie has shown a wider appeal to independents and even Republican voters. His town hall on fox news and his recent interview with Joe Rogan has shown his numbers reaching into Republican support whereas Warren who is my 2nd/3rd choice hasn't shown that appeal. She dips more into college educated whites which are Buttigieg and Harris' support base more than Republicans.

[@Mkalx18]

@@hubgiles7889 plus from my perspective all of Warren's "ammunition" are plays off of Sanders' populism and energy. She would've had a better appeal if she showed this voracity in 2015 but she passed to submit the establishment center right. NOW in 2019 she's shifted or "evolved" but I wouldn've loved to see this 4yrs ago.

[@Mkalx18]

@@garym6338 Perhaps but the larger point I'm getting at is that Biden is contextually moral whereas Sanders is consistently moral. Like Dr Cornel West said, Biden has changed a lot on the pass 20 years, he's changed a lot in the past 3-4 weeks. Same could be said for Harris, Buttigieg and many others. Anything to get elected....

[@bsing2u]

All of that was so on point. Learn from the past and move on.

[@pyrrho314]

why not have a leader that was right on these issues 30 years ago. They were ahead of their time.

[@veronicaswystun2235]

I think that you should read a bit more about the busing issue from that time period and weigh some issues.

[@Raz.C]

Caption shoulda read "Past and Spurious," instead of "Past and Furious."

[@web-angel]

Indeed! Bill has gotten the memo from the DNC

[@kefkapalazzo1]

What about Bernie bill lmao the country has been moving towards him for decades. Stop it

[@Juel92]

Lol Bernie voted for FOSTA-SESTA last year so... no, he's not close to being perfect either.

[@kefkapalazzo1]

Joel Martinsson what are you talking about lmao who’s talking about perfection

[@blaisemacpherson7637]

We act like he is somehow perfection distilled. People are afraid to discuss the fact that he has a lukewarm attitude towards immigration at best. That only the Koch brothers want immigrants or that there are a lot of poor people out there or that the guest worker program in the 2013 cir bill would take jobs from american workers. His world view is that immigrants might be nice people but american jobs are a finite commodity that should be distributed by the american government to Americans first. This isn't so much racist as just factually wrong. I'd like to see him evolve on this before I can even come close to supporting him.

[@ericguynga]

If that's true, and it may be, I'll probably see another civil war in my lifetime. I hope you're wrong.

[@LuisSanchez-tw2lg]

Absolutely correct! The best concept of forgiveness in human society is take serius the evolution if our minds. "Leave the old embrace the present" Luis S.

[@tripleUstudios69]

we need more of this bill maher!

[@quantumeseboy]

The people of tomorrow will be horrified by us?? I am horrified by us! ...I guess I will be tomorrow too.

[@vandergoose]

Oh spare me...

[@deepvybes]

So a voting record is pointless? Someone's record and trend is not a valid source of someones position?

[@justin79811]

A true politician votes for what their people want but fights for them to believe what is better so they can vote for what their people evolve to want next. Anything different is a dictatorship or the elite telling the "little people" what they "should" want. So no, a voting record should only be used to see if it matches the historical wants and Trends towards better.

[@pneulancer]

A voting record is not pointless, however it is only one metric of a politician's true beliefs or goals. There are many other variables to factor in when measuring the sum total.

[@5bagsofpopcorn]

If we dont accept that people change their minds theres no need for a debate

[@PMillz20020]

Chhhiilllleeeeee THIS right here: 😂😂👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😂😂😂 Hats off to the writers and Bill's stellar DELIVERY!!

[@Btp210]

Nothing about Bernie. Bernie will win!

[@heckler73]

What's he going to win? A game of bingo at the church?

[@killerreviewscom]

heckler73 LOL!!

[@hubgiles7889]

No he won't, but if he does,,,that's more than fine with me. I feel the Bern.

[@sallysmolich5822]

MSM will always undercut the progressive movement. It's much bigger than they'll ever admit.

[@keyzone72]

“...Bernie will win...” Right... Bernie couldn’t even secure the nomination in 2016 over Hillary, and all the polls said she’d win in a landslide. He’s way too old, and an economic retard.

[@pm71241]

Of all the Dem candidates Gillibrand is the most unbearable. In fact... the might be the only unbearable.

[@Asteroid-rp2jg]

Kamala is far an away most intolerable and insufferable candidate.

[@eaubert1]

Some call it "unbearable"; I call it "border-line presidential"!

[@doxasticc]

Yet she was totally right about Biden. If you ever thought it was wrong for women to work outside the family, you're simply not very bright. Bad reasoning doesn't magically get better the further back in time you go. Anyone who thinks it does is a special kind of retarded.

[@jasonh7128]

Plenty of establishment dems like Harris and Biden are unbearable because you know they're going to say whatever they can to get elected and then push establishment agenda. And Marianne Williamson has got to be the most unbearable because not only is she painful to listen to, but she's spewed ignorance that has caused people with HIV and cancer to die.

[@doxasticc]

@john smith Fuck sake what you just said is actually dumber than Bill's incoherent rant. First, his point was people and social norms evolve AND used a nonsequitur to go from that to the justification of irrational beliefs. Second, that's the entire reason why Bill's rant is incoherent. It doesn't fucking matter what most people believe, logic doesn't change. It wouldn't matter if everyone in 1980 thought 2+2=3, they would all still be fucking idiots. Third, he implies you need to be a future teller to know what's right and wrong, which is absolutely beyond insane. You don't figure out what's right or wrong by looking into a crystal ball and finding out what the social norms are in the future, you figure them out by reasoning. Fourth, Biden said this shit in the 80s, when 71%, not 2%, of women, ere in the workforce you fucking clueless retard. And lastly, literature on women's equality goes back at least 200 years before Biden made those comments. It wasn't exactly a new idea. Bernie Sanders is the same age, and he's been on the right side of all these issues his entire life. So again, wtf is Biden's excuse? It's absolutely astounding how you were able to fill so much bullshit into such few words.

[@elephantslionsrhinocerosex6043]

Fabuleux talk show . La présentation de l'émission ☆☆☆☆☆---- Bill maher ✊👏👏👏👏👏💕

[@lalexander1144]

By far one of his best yet.

[@the_bottomfragger]

What a confusing rant. Stuff politicians said in the 70s shouldn't matter anymore? Okay, maybe I can live with that, after all they've apologi.. Oh wait, they haven't. *More importantly though:* You talk about how it happened in the 70s, such a different time, and in the next sentence talk about Harris' actions from fucking 2010 that she says she is proud of and wants to continue as president. How should you not be called out for that? Fuck's sake Maher, what happened..

[@fredtello]

I am 57... I contributed to my 401k and bought some stock for 30 years starting at 28. After trump got elected in just 3 years my $185,000 jumped to $359,000..... All my kids have good jobs making 70k plus right out of college (programing)....People now have money to buy houses, boats, motorcycles, make home improvement... all creating jobs... I think people forget how bad things were for 8 years under Obama (I liked him).... I believe the ppl who hate Trump are mostly ppl who never got job skills and are working retail or driving ubers.. Not one democrat paid the old obama tax rate.. they all enjoyed trump's tax break money while virtue signaling how bad it was... walk the walk.... u don't get to keep the money AND complain about it.... what a crock of shit

[@Buttlather]

@The Irish Italian I think a big part of her particular situation is that she was joking about she used to smoke in college, and never got in trouble, but she put people in jail for the same actions as her own. Those people lost a lot of opportunities in life, and even though she committed the same crime, she gets to run for president... Do you really not see why this might bother some people?

[@DBMe33]

@@fredtello Must be really nice & cozy in that bubble that u guys live in. Must be nice to be able to go ur whole life remaining so clueless & never having anyone call u on it. Must be nice to be so coddled. Unless, that was a complete troll statement that u just wrote, u have been & continue to be coddled. So much so that u will NEVER realize that this is in fact the case. I can say this bc I am on the outside, watching u make some seriously tunnel visioned statements. I wish that I had the luxury of that same kind of tunnel vision. Id have to go to an alternate universe for that, bc only certain ppl are allowed to have that here.

[@leosapien397]

@The Irish Italian really, I wonder why she didn't prosecute Steven Mnuchin, or Harris’s office did not proactively assist in civil cases against clergy sex abuse and ignored requests by activists and survivors to access the cache of investigative files that could have helped them secure justice, according to several victims of clergy sex abuse living in California who spoke to The Intercept.

[@teebee1103]

BottomFragger 💯

[@freedom3594]

Thanks for making a rock solid case against reparations Bill.

[@DOG-bt6vy]

That's not really a case against reparations. Only if you believe reparations were meant to punish white people. But it doesn't touch upon the other reasons.

[@Alexa-Raine]

So true..

[@freedom3594]

J Paterson, What do they deserve and who do they deserve it from? Historical injustice is real and unspeakable things happened. There is certainly a lasting effect to this day, no doubt. What would be a fair way to make everyone whole again? How much? How often? From who? I am curious about what people think about this issue. I’m not convinced reparations are a good idea. I am willing to listen though.

[@sunmustbedestroyed]

Bernie has been consistent since the 1970s. That's what true leadership is.

[@GreenLightMe]

He was pro soviet union u stupid fuck

[@ogrehaslayers605]

GreenLightMe making shit up doesn’t make it true you dumb fuck.

[@ogrehaslayers605]

Eric Burkheimer good point! Bernie has consistently polled higher on both sides of the political isle than anyone else. Through two presidential election cycles! So he’s exactly the leader you’re describing. Now, if the DNC would pull their heads out of their asses and stop trying to force someone down our throats that nobody wants we could win the election and get rid of that buffoon currently in the White House.

[@YaoEspirito]

Excellent segment! Nothing but truth.

[@coffeeNTrees]

That's all fair, but if you have a chance to elect, for president, one of the 24... You elect one of the 24. It seems many of the candidates are speaking different versions of what Mr. Sanders has been saying for decades.

[@nicholassmith7984]

This is my biggest worry regarding next year's US election. The candidates are starting to attack eachother in ways that will be hard to walk-back on, depending on who gets the nomination. Likewise, Democratic supporters are becoming factionalised along these lines. My concern is, these supporters won't be able to put their grievances aside if their preferred candidate isn't the one nominated, and abstain from voting as a 'protest.' This will just hand the election to Trump again.

[@coffeeNTrees]

@@nicholassmith7984 At least this time it seems no one is campaigning directly against my penis. That's refreshing.

[@nicholassmith7984]

@@coffeeNTrees That was an issue before?

[@coffeeNTrees]

@@nicholassmith7984 Identity politics felt like a war on the penis. Not all penis' are the same. Some bend very hard to the left and always have.

[@sulla1537]

Nicholas Smith if you’re white and have a penis there’s a laundry list of unwarranted terms and grievances coming your way if you attempt to open your mouth to criticize anything produced by a leftist campaign

[@Dadjinx]

Not 'learning' its political expediency. You'll never know what politicians actually believe until you look back at their record Bill.

[@danielkokal8819]

not even then. they dont vote their beliefs, they vote their sponsor's beliefs

[@jarvisblay9025]

@@danielkokal8819 Exactly 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@rodbaker2264]

A great deal of good sense delivered with humor.

[@SadhuBiochemist]

Microfiche! I haven't used it since high school, lolololool!

[@thepinkerton657]

And yet, Bernie was somehow able to be on the right side of history 35 years ago. What happened to standing on your morals Bill?

[@Gradomyr]

Which side was that? Soviet Union?

[@kevinsaether]

Gradomyr Civil rights. Gay rights. Women’s rights.

[@HIMYMTR]

@@kevinsaether no, communism

[@ganjasage]

He got rich, and he 'evolved'.

[@arx754]

The: Who the "f" CARES what BS thought 35 or whatever years ago? i'm voting for someone based on what they believe TODAY. You want me to give BS some extra brownie points because he and you "allege" that? Fine. I'll do that. But, it makes ZERO difference in who I vote for today. And, frankly, you and so many other BS supporters are the BIGGEST albatross BS carries. You're so infatuated that you can't see straight. It's SCARY. And, when I read what you guys write, I think there's something seriously wrong with such fanaticism. In your minds, BS is like the "Second Coming". He's "super-human" and can do no wrong. He has NO faults. And, NO ONE should ever criticize him and judge him by the standards they do every other human. Frankly, I see you guys as "bent" in that you see every other Dem candidate as "the devil". And, anyone who won't vote for BS as the devil, too. You guys are as creepy as evangelical Christians... and THAT is creepy.

[@raminagrobis6112]

I can relate to this... I once tried to pleaded the case for Jefferson in a debate where people condemned him as a monster because he had slaves. I was trying to bring up the fact that although slavery is morally wrong by today's standards, when you're immersed in a society where everybody thinks it's right to own another human being's life, it takes a lot of time before to change such a state of affairs. You're born in a certain world with imperfect values, and it may take many generations before changes that might seem obvious to future generations finally happen. For instance, tolerating that filthily rich people pay no taxes might be unthinkable for people who will be born in the 22nd century. If we make it until then...

[@ktoth29]

Most people aren't capable of the abstract thinking required to understand that social norms are constantly changing.

[@bluceree7312]

@@ktoth29 Yes but if you owned a business and could compete without owning slaves, would you have done it? if it was only possible to make money if you had slaves, why not treat them well, give them some share of the assets for example? I don't know if Jefferson was nasty to his slaves but I can't believe that he did not have a choice; he could have been as rich even if he paid his slaves some money. He was a well traveled man, he must have seen countries where they had abolished slavery during the Age of Enlightenment. Seeing that and still coming back to a country where they treated black people (or any type of people) really badly shows the complete lack of character Jefferson must have had.

[@ktoth29]

@@bluceree7312 My attitude is that slavery wasn't so much a "moral choice" in the 17th century as it was a normal fact of life for everyone, not exclusively blacks. For example it was common practice for the British Navy to impress any able bodied man into service when they were short handed, and service in the British navy could be quite barbaric. There was also a thriving Mediterranean slave trade at the time where thousands of people from southern europe were captured and sold as slaves in the Ottoman empire, The US went to war with the Barbary pirates over it. Up until the industrial revolution, some form of unfree agricultural labor was neccesary to feed the population and avoid famine, and the vast majority of europeans were peasants who had no legal rights up until a decade or so before the US Civil war. In that context, slavery was not a historical anomoly unique to the US but an extension of the feudal system which had existed in Europe since Roman times. The evil of slavery is not that people were born into a life of servitude, but that the system of racial discrimination was institutionalized and perpetuated long after it had outlived its economic utility.

[@samus598]

Yeah but someone who was pushing for todays social norms 40 years ago must be 40 years AHEAD morally now then, so we should still vote for Bernie over these clowns who just decided marijuana wasnt a big deal on tuesday. Bernie bringing that 2059 wokeness.

[@si91]

@@bluceree7312 The primogeniture and entail laws of Virginia at the time actually prohibited people from refusing or selling inherited slaves. Jefferson was very critical of this and successfully pushed to have them repealed. So, even being a slave owner, Jefferson was forward thinking for his era.

[@azzir325]

I don't generally agree with your politics, dude, but you can make me laugh! Thanks for that!

[@Posijax]

A simple yet powerful concept... Bravo

[@carriesee7209]

Bill, are you trying to help the republikkkans? Seriously, we need YOUR help, not disparities

[@rhettcujo9006]

Carrie See bitch be fo real! 😂

[@garysmith5268]

Carrie See will be relieved in January 2025 when Trump’s helicopter finally lifts off from the White House lawn. Until then, enjoy the peace and prosperity. MAGA !!!

[@bunnythebuddha4449]

Be careful Bill you are becoming an apologist for the establishment’s candidate.

[@TheJacklikesvideos]

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[@Toneloke-xm9jv]

I was a teenager in the 80s and in the midwest only some people wore that flashy preppy colorful clothing. The majority of us we're wearing blue jeans with Rock t-shirts that were black.

[@Scorch428]

LITTLE HARPER Ooooo I feel like that one's gonna hit a little too close to home for some people haha.

[@susieadare9899]

OK . I am schooled by this Maher episode on my problems with Biden. I will vote him in over Trump but continue for now to donate to Bernie and Elizabeth

[@hubgiles7889]

Susie got it.

[@Gymnopediea]

Warren/Anyone 2020!!

[@09hicktown]

Any candidate with some ideas that arent #notTrump will likley be worth voting for.

[@jordonritter6447]

She still caged ppl for weed then laughed about smoking .... .... NO prosecuters 4 president

[@ltdowney]

I love it when Bill has The Mooch on the show and then makes him laugh.

[@garycogswell5499]

Still kickin' it 2yrs later