Grotmas was a blessing for Auspex and fans. No rules for 3 months was brutal and now its new mini rules everyday. Major props on making due without new rules but it's good to have you back.
@Bobby3OOO27 күн бұрын
I love all his other content as a new player ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@voltix5427 күн бұрын
3 months of no rules gave us these fantastic detschments gw needs time to make things demanding new stuff all the time is why a lot of cidexes are rushed
@dicedoom716226 күн бұрын
its good to have a period of no added/changed rules. alot of people cannot keep track of the changes
@Macrossprime26 күн бұрын
you would have hated editions 3-7ish
@LysimedVenteel26 күн бұрын
I’ve been finding them hit and miss. Some have been great, like these today, really fun and amusing. Others have been a bit dull, a bit forced, and have felt like more of the same.
@jackofn0trades2927 күн бұрын
As someone who has themed their Knight house around beastman and has been using beasts of chaos as demon proxies up until this point. I am extremely happy with this new detachment! They have finally convinced me to play 10th edition again after eight months of not touching it lol.
@keyanklupacs633327 күн бұрын
Dude that's awesome I hope you have a ton of fun with your felgor!
@markd735426 күн бұрын
As someone who's currently converting dark mech cultists I couldn't agree more
@ZaZi-Zeta0126 күн бұрын
Genuinely so extremely happy for you, love to see real unique armies!
@mrproper363024 күн бұрын
Glad for you! Hope you enjoy! It will be nice to see different lists, specially in chaos knights, who seem to be locked to a single list since the beginning of 10th edition.
@Rabble227 күн бұрын
So smart to alternate between case ads so they’re in a constant war for Auspex space
@mrziiz689326 күн бұрын
In the grim darkness of the auspex tactics, there is only war
@LordCrate-du8zm27 күн бұрын
IMO "Rotate Ion Shields" should be the Knight equivalent of Armor of Contempt: consistently present in every detachment. Also, I like how fluffy this detachment is. The one guy who wanted an Admech+Knight ally detachment is probably really happy.
@reynazzo715127 күн бұрын
Of course I know him, he's me!
@conjo888427 күн бұрын
I am also that one guy
@jsquirrel451527 күн бұрын
Make that 3 guys
@uwesca626327 күн бұрын
Also i think its a great way to use some solar auxilia guys and flesh out your knight household with their human serves.
@TobyLegion27 күн бұрын
I'm also -Alphari- *ahem* Secutarii Alpha Zetta Mu Rho.
@WoundNick21426 күн бұрын
This detachment got me pulling out my compressed air can to dust of my CK. Based on what I saw, you can also sacrifice a cultist squad that doesn’t have the full models needed (?) So if one of my chaff units has one or two cultists left, I can still fully benefit from the sacrifice? A fun, flavorful and kinda viable detachment!
@Spec0psGrunt26 күн бұрын
They should make some space peasants for Imperial Knights! I think having a fluffy kit of techno-peasants would be really cool. a ranged block and a melee block of people that are really bad units that just benefit from being around their Lords or somethin. Would be fun and fluffy
@willlondon496426 күн бұрын
I thought about using the Bretonian knights on foot as some arbites with mauls and shields.
@luckmyst3r98627 күн бұрын
The funniest thing about the chaos detachment is that it DOES NOT specify that you need to sacrifice YOUR damned units
@DJRaffa100026 күн бұрын
Looool, that is a hilarious loophole xD (And on point theming for Chaos forces)
@iamnz361226 күн бұрын
@@DJRaffa1000 Noticed that too. Might get nerfed to only yours though 🤣
@mrziiz689326 күн бұрын
Run them as Tzeentch knights for extra lore spice
@Xhumed26 күн бұрын
Khorne cares not from whomst the blood flows.
@isaacgraff828826 күн бұрын
I did not notice that. Thank you.
@aratherpurpleleo27 күн бұрын
One thing not pointed out here is that it doesn't look like the cultists take up your allied points! So you could totally have 500 points of daemons and 500 points of cultists in your 2000 points chaos knights list
@keyanklupacs633327 күн бұрын
Correct the points are tracked seperarely! Looks very fun!!
@Caseyuptobat27 күн бұрын
Soup's on, everyone!
@zlarez448526 күн бұрын
Great, because playing 1000points of small units is excatly why we chose to play the chaos knights faction
@aratherpurpleleo26 күн бұрын
@@zlarez4485 See I personally think it's actually a lot more lore friendly and flavourful to have a bunch of traitor guard and a handful of chaos knights in an army, rather than just pacific rim with no troops to be seen, but I do understand that from a gameplay perspective people might want to play only the knights, however nobody is forcing you to use the new detachment (at least I hope they're not please blink twice if this is the case)
@zlarez448526 күн бұрын
@aratherpurpleleo yeah, true. Sadly the old detachment also sucks if you want to play knights. I wouldn't mind the new detachment if there actually was a detachment for big knights. Now we got either war dog spam or cultist spam
@TheKOHunterTri27 күн бұрын
As an admech player, this is what’s gonna finally push me to get into knights. Been on the edge for a while now
@keyanklupacs633327 күн бұрын
Dude have fun with your new art project! Looks like a very fun detachment and hopefully the new admech one will work for you as well!
@TheKOHunterTri27 күн бұрын
@ planning on playing with it for a while. Just haven’t had a chance to use it quite yet. Seems like it’s gonna work really well though
@skilledwarman27 күн бұрын
Congratulations on your first models that will be over 2.5 pts per dollar!
@DJRaffa100026 күн бұрын
As a knights "player" (not many matches because i can understand that people dont want to play against such a skued list) I can finally start collecting a few skitarii, those designs have my wallet salivating since i saw them but i didnt want them als a whole army. But ~500p of those will both make objective play easier and the lists less skued which should please the other local players, öeading to hopefully more games
@ManiGonzales26 күн бұрын
Me too, I already have four armigers because I love the look. Finally have a reason to get a couple big knights!
@realllybadgaming921627 күн бұрын
I'm glad to have this little break before GW starts releasing their $60 digital code/paperweights again
@carboff27 күн бұрын
They should just release detachments this way throughout the edition. Make a codex with some lore and index detachment in for everyone at the start, then give everyone a new detachment every 4 - 6 months
@Majere61326 күн бұрын
The reactive move strat in the Chaos detachment seems made for Accursed Cultists. If you have them near a Knight and the enemy gets too close, they can move in the way and then threaten to use their surge move to get into combat if the enemy tries to shoot their way through. The enhancement to hand out Scout is handy for them too, since whilst they have it natively the Dark Commune doesn't, so you have to use the Chaos Cult Warped Foresight enhancement on them to get it back usually.
@thefloatingcontinent989727 күн бұрын
I get that these aren’t amazing but man they seem fun and cool. It’s ok to have fun.
@niccolomiglio699627 күн бұрын
I love the IK detachment. I see its flaws and I wouldnt buy admech models for it, but I like the idea of a "combined arms" army made by multiple factions . Since my pod is vedy casual, I'll give it a go.
@jonny_kung27 күн бұрын
Suddenly my usually useless Knight Lancer might actually kill it's points-worth with the Diabolic Resilience enhancement and advance and charge strat! Not to mention my Knight Despoiler with two battlecannons getting sustained and lethal! All for the low, low cost of a few skinny cultists. What a bargain!
@KArchine27 күн бұрын
I find it really interesting that you have trouble making the knight lancer work. In imperial knights, it is regularly a real nightmare for my opponents to deal with!
@jonny_kung27 күн бұрын
@KArchine it's because the moment is shows itself to the enemy, it gets oathed and focussed into oblivion. It's also a running joke with my friends that when it comes to making 4++ saves, I'll fail 90% of them. 😂
@KArchine27 күн бұрын
@@jonny_kungfair play mate! Well, your the wrong sort of knights, but I'm still stood with you in solidarity brother!
@redrat12332126 күн бұрын
Both lancers and rampagers looks good in this detachment.
@Matthimeo27 күн бұрын
Been a good two weeks to be an admech fan. Wish it was more unlocked to ally more of the admech range but I understand keeping it to skitari for ease of balance.
@theknightguy592727 күн бұрын
This has been what I always wanted for CK. Mortal chaff like in all the art. Someone at GW was cooking with this one.
@HoratioCornblower27 күн бұрын
I AM SO EXCITED Sacrificing some cultists (3 or 6) on a Despoiler with the enhancement to get BOTH buffs????? Then fall back / advance, shoot, and charge for 1CP every turn WHILE GOING THROUGH WALLS!?!?! Not to mention all the rest, albeit a reduced, but still existing healing strat for melee knights will be suitable for Pterrorshades as your frontline was always the most likely to both need it and get the battleshock failures midboard Now, just give me those "nerfs" and drop big knights 100 pts a piece to compensate, then I can have 3 big knights, 7 war dogs, and 30 allied cultists Might even be enough to get me to buy a Knight Tyrant
@dankimus26 күн бұрын
Hi, new chaos knights player here. What do you mean walk through walls? What rule do we get this from? Super-heavy walkers? I thought we can only walk through 4 inch features or shorter terrain?
@theicebringerlemur26 күн бұрын
@@dankimus You can move over small terrain at no risk of harm, and you can get through any terrain with a risk of battleshock.
@Argumemnon27 күн бұрын
I notice that the Honoured keyword isn't used in this one. This could mean that our army rule will change with the codex.
@knightpaladin984126 күн бұрын
I hope not. The whole quest mechanic was fluffy I enjoy it a lot
@Swampert91926 күн бұрын
Nah, lots of detachments don’t utilise their faction ability, no reason to worry about the fate of the honoured mechanic especially as it’s not caused any issues.
@8-7-styx9427 күн бұрын
As I read the chaos knights detachment my initial thoughts are a herd of fellgor beastmen worshipping larger totem beasts(the spikey knights). Would be a really neat conversion to have horns and large beast skulls all over them. Maybe with some "animal skins" to really amp up the beast man vibe. Shame my resin printer is down at the moment =/else I'd be printing these right away.
@elchjol277725 күн бұрын
While I lean more towards Imperial Knights I do like the more beast-like look of the Chaos Knights. I do like the more animalistic leg design some chaos knights have as that style is something I like to see on mechs.
@andrewcrane510526 күн бұрын
This makes a lot more sense lore wise and I think it's going to get a lot more people to want to play mechanicus models
@stephenball-qo7ug27 күн бұрын
GW here is a detachment, to use this detachment you will now need to buy some new models. Imperial knight players looks at admech costs, nope.
@Matthimeo27 күн бұрын
Easy to proxy the 30K tech thralls as skitari if your looking for some cheaper chaff units. And a lot of the fun of admech is kitbashing your own techpriests.
@eo824026 күн бұрын
I feel like thats going to be the case with a lot of grotmas detachments. It's Christmas time after all, get everyone building a wish list. I'm dreading the Genestealer cults detachment at the moment. If its "Brood brothers but with tyranids!" ill be so bummed haha.
@moderndavinci659927 күн бұрын
I like Forgepact, but I wish I could bring Astra Militarum to represent the Imperialis aligned Knights not just Mechanicum
@theverlorenguardsman27 күн бұрын
I mean, Skitarri share the guardsman base size, I'd absolutely accept the flavor proxy
@dominicl586227 күн бұрын
@@theverlorenguardsman Ya but naw, I was also hoping for running Imperial Guard units. Guardsman, Rough Riders, Chimeras potentially. Not just flavored Skiitarii
@VladMcCain26 күн бұрын
They might, but will have to get the full codex. I would point at the freeblade game where the MC was allied to the Dark Angels.
@slyoldowl26 күн бұрын
Same I have plans for a krieg knight which one I'm not sure but gotta plan that later
@captaincorundum978826 күн бұрын
Just run a Knight in your Guard
@matteoi9626 күн бұрын
I really like this allied rules! I'd really like to see a uno reverse Mechanicus Detachment that gives sinergies with the Imperial Knights, a man can dream
@LordCrate-du8zm27 күн бұрын
NGL, I love both Mechanicus and Knights. This may be an excuse to dive in...
@tjthehobopainter917326 күн бұрын
You must be running overtime with grotmas- do make sure to rest up whenever possible 👍 As always, ty for keeping us up to date 😄
@jarrakul26 күн бұрын
Honestly this is super cool and is the sort of thing I've been wanting from detachments from the beginning.
@TheRealTopGunZ26 күн бұрын
As I am building my first army, a Deathwatch one, I was eyeing getting a Questoris, plus eyeing my next possible army between Necros, Orks, AdMech and Chaos Space Marines. I really like AdMech's theme, my homebrew Deathwatch company is led by a veteran Techmarine with connections to Mars, and this here gives me a great nudge towards them, as I could have some good synergies between 3 different armies (DW, IK, AdMech), with IK can go as alies to both AdMech and DW, and AdMech being able to go to IK as allies.
@keyanklupacs633327 күн бұрын
Extreme fluff win imo. Very jealous of CKs atm. Even if the rules crunch doesn't work out this is SUCH a flavorful concept I hope they at least continue to try to get this right!
@dominicl586227 күн бұрын
I love when the Fluff and Crunch are equaly good
@DamienJones7726 күн бұрын
"extra batteries" is a great comment for the Wretched Masses strat.
@AntiEyeglassman26 күн бұрын
Would’ve much preferred for big knights to be more incentivized in this detachment. Guess I’ll wait until the codex
@kriscrossx12219 күн бұрын
It's finally happened! Felt like knights should of had access to cultists forever. This opens up so many options
@necroprogaming685127 күн бұрын
Time to buy 3 cultist mob boxes :D My tyrant is going to love his new batteries.
@bravghede26 күн бұрын
I like the idea of really feral-ing up a couple of big knights and having them worshipped as gods of war by a pack of fellgors.
@HunterTooler27 күн бұрын
Babe wake up Auspex tactics uploaded
@Dead_Fish027 күн бұрын
Babe: stop waking me up every 5 minutes!
@moritzcelinara17327 күн бұрын
Me: *leaves Babe*
@Admiralkirk9527 күн бұрын
Well they have finally gone with the idea of an allied unit type army for the knights. That's pretty cool. I think the detachment itself, the chaos knights came out more on top here. But imperial knights definetly got something to play with too. Personally I like it. Losing tueir defensive abilities though is a bit of a shame though. Hopefully when the codex's come out some of the stranger answers will be fixed. Like Chaos knights army rule being more complete? Or something.
@bobbodagreen840426 күн бұрын
I want this but allying in Astra Militarum!
@tonynaranjo298226 күн бұрын
Mortal thralls and foes alike are sacrificed to empower the fallen nobility. -> it's the Titanic knight getting the buff
@LamentableDatasmith26 күн бұрын
You may actually be able to use your Doctrina Imperatives rule with your Skitarii because the Doctrina Imperatives rule does not explicitly require your army be "Adeptus Mechanicus", only that you pick an ability every round and the Doctrina Imperatives units get buffs accordingly.
@AvgJoeHobbyShow26 күн бұрын
Man the chaos knight stuff is real fluffy and fun! I have lots of cultists hehe
@cawsking55526 күн бұрын
the imp knihgts for the questor forgepact .is an rework of the knights of the cog with a list of all modles it can take for suport.
@DJRaffa100026 күн бұрын
Finally i can take "proper" foot troops with knights. More fluff and less biased/skued lists for local play 😊
@skilledwarman27 күн бұрын
If the allied admech dont count towards your normal allied units limit i might grab a couple squads and run this. Even if the detachnen isnt great the novelty of having some sisters m and admech on the board with my knights is just fun. Plus theres still a couple places around me that have the old admech combat Patrol and i think their tank looks dope. So maybe grab that for combat patrol itself and an additonal infatry squad or two and run the 3 infatey squads and a couple HQs
@jeremiegartner46427 күн бұрын
For those who are worried about how easy cultists will die. Look into the firebrand leading them. Ld6 with rerolls, plus he dishes out Battleshock. The 45pts leader will be almost as valuable as going 20 cultists with things like cull the horde being available.
@AKDragonFish3D27 күн бұрын
The whole aspect of healing big knights. Would it be worth it to attempt to run a Magaera? The Magaera has the +4W enhancement. It's priest has the +2 heal. So looking at a 26W Knight that heals 1 base, +1 detachment, +2 techpriest enhancement, +d3 techpriest itself. That's a lot of healing. Thoughts everyone?
@keyanklupacs633326 күн бұрын
Seems cool I'd give it a whirl on tts first but sounds like a fun combo.
@stephenball-qo7ug26 күн бұрын
The Megaera has a very poor gun. AP0
@Louiscypher9326 күн бұрын
As a Grey Knight player, im hoping we get something that works with psychic weapons. I.e. they gain some sort of buff like criting on 5s, leathal hits etc.
@dittmar10426 күн бұрын
I’ve been begging for this for years it’s just how the army should be structured. A knight needs men-at-arms to throw at the hoards while he flanks in.
@tyrant-den88421 күн бұрын
Be nice to use some sacristan models with the rules for the Admech detachments.
@jameshewitt470626 күн бұрын
Welp. Might now have to think of and write out a new Chaos Knight pilot OC to pilot a double-gatling Knight Despoiler for full Detachment advantage.
@natewalter766126 күн бұрын
I think skitarii will still get doctrinas. The army rule does not require the faction keyword. Or am i totally wrong on this?
@theprofesser94426 күн бұрын
so i saw someone point out on reddit that Doctrina Imperitives are abilities baked into the admech units as nowhere in the army rule does it say "If your faction is admech" like Code Chivalric does for knights. do you think this is accurate or will this get errata in the next dataslate?
@Meuduso126 күн бұрын
Still holding out for a Knight House kill team, consisting of both the supporting staff of the Knight, and some general Knight World type Infantry
@joshpearson187026 күн бұрын
This Chaos knight detatchment looks like a lot of fun. Almost enough to get me into knights.... if I thought I would get the force together before 11th invalidates it. If they still have something like this in their 11th index I'll probably jump in.
@GM-rs2fv26 күн бұрын
When get blessings from big knight to armiger again?
@marmuhardestboss919726 күн бұрын
I like the theming of the chaos knights detachment but also like… I’m a chaos knights player. I don’t have any damned units. I don’t want to spend money on cultists that probably won’t be playable in my army next edition
@Tehstampede27 күн бұрын
The CK detachment doesn't seem all that competitive but it does seem like fun. I'll always be happy to see an effort to make the big knights more effective, but I'm sad to see they lose Rotate with that one, and I'm also not stoked that I'd need to buy another codex just to use some throwaway units to fuel the CK's dark pacts.
@keyanklupacs633327 күн бұрын
Literially no one will care if you pull up wahapedia on your phone for some cultist / acdc or traitor guard units 👍 everyone knows the 60 dollar codexes are too much and will understand cutting some corners.
@Swampert91927 күн бұрын
Given how bad chaos knight’s index detachment is it could honestly be decently competitive. The lack of rotate ion shields and the move through cover stratagem hurts but I feel like getting access to cheap chaff to do secondaries/objectives might make it worth taking on its own… plus a big knight using a dark pact at the right time could be brutal amounts of damage output, I dunno if it’d be better than the war dog spam we have now but it could definitely compete if only cause it has a useable detachment ability.
@frenkuguz607227 күн бұрын
Finally something different for Chaos 🎉
@jmarriottc26 күн бұрын
As a Chaos Knight player this seems like a stop gap till the codex. Honestly seeing this as a preview
@NorthInium27 күн бұрын
Tomorrow Grey Knights thats hopefully good ^^
@keyanklupacs633326 күн бұрын
Maybe hammers or a psychic ruleset
@uwesca626327 күн бұрын
The knight one looks like a great way to run knight house painted Solar Auxilia as skitarii rangers. Add in a conversion of the command squad to get a marshal, a techpriest and the important banner carrier and you could add a lot to your knight household.
@telelkhajiit791027 күн бұрын
I was thinking necromunda models myself. Van saar, squats, or nomads perhaps. With spyrers acting as tech priests.
@RevanR27 күн бұрын
So far both are patching Knights factions that don't have infantry to secure objectives, however the Chaos Knights wins because of hilarity of sacrificing your allies for buff while Imperial Knight have half-assed skitarii supports
@keyanklupacs633327 күн бұрын
Also sacced cultists don't unsticky the objectives they were on 😂
@griffinsaltron334226 күн бұрын
Skitarii keep doctrinas though. It’s not army locked
@griffinsaltron334226 күн бұрын
Skitarii keep doctrinas though. It’s not army locked
@Swampert91926 күн бұрын
@@griffinsaltron3342 doctrinas are a part of their faction ability, which you only get access to if you choose that specific faction. So no you wouldn’t get access to them, same as how daemons don’t get access to the shadow of chaos when they get allied into other factions.
@theprofesser94426 күн бұрын
@@Swampert919 but nowhere in the rules for doctrina imperitives is the text "if your army faction is adeptus mechanicus" so why wouldn't it be usable?
@Backstabmacro26 күн бұрын
I don’t care if these rules are good or not, this is LITERALLY the other half of how my Knights and AdMech play together. Now I have both styles.
@chrismartin102027 күн бұрын
Why would those AdMech units be useless in the future?
@keyanklupacs633327 күн бұрын
Because gw has always been a bit fickle with ally rules and how nice armies play with each other. Glad they're giving it another shot as long as they don't go off the deep end again like 6th / 7th.
@AnEnormousNerd27 күн бұрын
It's very possible admech won't be able to ally with knights in 11th edition, so if you have a knight army a handful of admech models might end up being useless in the future.
@chrismartin102026 күн бұрын
@@AnEnormousNerd Ooohhhhhhhkay that makes sense. For some reason I thought he was implying AdMech would cease to be a playable faction, which seemed extreme.
@lazywargaming675227 күн бұрын
40 seconds and only 35 views. Bro's still doing great. Also i swear he doesn't sleep
@demonprinceofkhorne27 күн бұрын
I’ll keep on with the Index for Chaos Knights until the codex. I’ll just hope that the codex gives us a way to make all big knights a viable list
@keyanklupacs633327 күн бұрын
Yeah because that battleshock was definately mattering so much! 😂
@demonprinceofkhorne25 күн бұрын
@@keyanklupacs6333 I want it for fluff reasons. If I wanted to run a list of 1 very large thing, a few smaller tank like things, and a bunch of little guys who are fodder, I'd be playing Astra Militarum, I want to rock up to the table with just 4 big dudes to be imposing
@micahsmith206627 күн бұрын
As a knight player, this is what I've wanted for ages. I just want some infantry to spread around the board. Admech with Knights just makes so much sense and I love it. Wonder if GSC will get Nids backup?
@snokbert290627 күн бұрын
Without trying to sound too salty, I did want to run cultists with my chaos knights, but I have to say I did not want my rules to depend on having at least 30 of them. I do believe this is a miss, if for no other reason than that a lot of knight players have had no need for so many cultists and now will have to acquire them just to make the rules work. And I do believe 30 is a low ball. In this detachment, more is more. You want a lot of this chaff and it dies easily to your abilities as much as an opponents. This is the sort of detachment that you include in the codex as a fluffy alternative, but I wouldn’t have put this out to a faction that has really suffered from lack of index rules and lost variety
@maxmagnus37726 күн бұрын
Bit baffled by the decision (or lack thereof more likely) to not have the factions who don't have a codex yet to get these first. Over half of the grotmas detachments right now are for factions that already had a bunch of detachments to choose from. I get that to most people it really won't matter all that much to have to wait a few more weeks for theirs, but as someone who plays a weekly game with either my Aeldari or Drukhari it would be nice to get another option after 18ish months of having just the one (2 for the dark kin) detachment to play with.
@griffinsaltron334226 күн бұрын
They do get doctrinas RAW
@joeofdoom25 күн бұрын
Knights getting some chumps to do actions for them makes a ton of sense. Still don't think it fixes their inherent issues.
@albert727-y5z27 күн бұрын
Beastmen here we come
@DiscipleOfNyx26 күн бұрын
If you really wanted to make an annoying potential meme warlord you could use the Magera plus the 4 wound enhancement plus the techpriest with the magos enhancement for the lone op and +2W healing to make a 26W titan who can heal 2d3+2 wounds every command phase since the magera has a d3 wound heal per command phase baked in. If you wanted, you could give the Mageras ignore cover to the techpriest eradication beamer too but not worth if running a castigator somewhere else. It's not competitive, but it could be fun.
@recapdrake26 күн бұрын
Ah yes, let's take the budget army of knights and give them allies from admech- the single most expensive army? This is great for the admech players who wanted to run knights but so was the detachment they already got.
@don_bernacz25 күн бұрын
So the question is - which is better, taking a knight army with extra cultists, or a cult army with extra knights?
@RuoShiLi27 күн бұрын
*Screams in tiny units surrounding my big models*
@mtymus25 күн бұрын
"Iconoclast from the past". Auspex going to be moving into rap.😅
@GreatChickenGod26 күн бұрын
Omnissiah's Grace would be better for Cerastus Lancers, since Rotate Ion Shields does nothing for them
@GiraffeCrab26 күн бұрын
I hope GW does not just stick knights to allies forever and allow them to take cadres of support servators, swarms of servo skulls, and maybe a couple of unique infantry support elements. GW needs to make the knight armies more effective by representing the logistical support units in their army. Not all units need to be strong and killy ... There could be support units!
@MrHoneuma26 күн бұрын
As someone invested in my CK army. This detatchment is just awful. Realistically, you'd have to allocate all 500 points to cultist mobs to maybe have a chance to use the detatchment rule and stratagems for a few turns. Your army rule is even less useful than usual considering that unless you run an abominant, you have no additional ways to try to trigger battle shock. The rules are just frankly too conditional and too easy to cripple.
@janesgg333527 күн бұрын
The Dark Sacrifice ability doesn’t actually specify ‘friendly’ Damned units so….. until it’s FAQ’s or Errata’d, enjoy being a hard CSM counter 😂
@keyanklupacs633327 күн бұрын
RAW legal or not literially no one is egg headed enough to try to pull that.
@chrislacombe597626 күн бұрын
Time to create a infernal household with slaves to power the knights with some household guard.
@kory555827 күн бұрын
Really disappointing index for me, I was really looking forward to the IK release but it's a huge bummer to just be told to buy units of an army I don't own
@otisred784827 күн бұрын
I play chaos knights and I'm not impressed. We've been forced to use allies all edition. I don't want to chew up points for allies I want to play with my knights. Most strats and enhancements are focused on the allied units not the actual knights and we give up a lot like rotate ion shields and knights of shade. So other armies are getting strats to let vehicles go through terrain we are losing ours? This should have played off the wardogs, it would have brought balance to the army. The big knight aura would have helped the dogs and the dogs could buff the big. I would have had them take a battle shock test. If passed nothing happened if failed the dog would be battle shocked and take d3+1 mortals. GW dropped the ball on this one.
@TheSYLOH27 күн бұрын
The whole thing isn't worth losing the 4++ from rotate/bulwark. Especially since nothing significantly buffs durability or introduces more melee options.
@stephenball-qo7ug27 күн бұрын
5 boxes of admech infantry plus some HQ gets me 2 big knights. I'll rather buy the 2 big knights.
@shigeolincolntaco26 күн бұрын
No Hoplites I guess
@HaydenHaws27 күн бұрын
Great, if I want to play another detachment for my Chaos Knights. I have to go buy a CSM codex and CSM units. Thanks GW. 🙄
@Flight_of_Icarus26 күн бұрын
Honestly probably better for an Admech player flirting with the idea of Knights than a pure Knights player
@rougenarwhal837826 күн бұрын
a chaos knights player very carefully daintily moving his melee chaff out of the way so they dont get a boo boo from the CK's volcano cannon is very unsoulful for any chaos force, aside from maybe 5D chess playing tzeetch followers
@darkbotx27 күн бұрын
The chaos knights seems like a good one although the imperial one however seems pretty lousy
@monsterclown445527 күн бұрын
I like the concept, the execution in the other hand... Losing the Fnp and rotate ion shields, this is not it.
@somguy123226 күн бұрын
Where is the Tau new detachment? Like wth?
@carsonglenn138926 күн бұрын
Honestly if you wanna run loyalist knights allied with admech you’re probably better off playing admech and allying in the knights
@theprofesser94426 күн бұрын
ad mechs faction rule doesn't seem to care if you are another faction so this way you get both code chivalric AND doctrina imperitives
@VladMcCain26 күн бұрын
As a loyalist knight, this sounds interesting, but want to wait for the full codex release before saying they're good/bad
@GM-rs2fv26 күн бұрын
lol just lore-wise imagining this hilarious. RIP ad-mech/servitors getting stomped.
@MrKeroro62327 күн бұрын
its a pity the admeck list is so little. i think it be cool to have the jet pack guys flying around the knights or the Horse(dog?) back units weaving around the knights
@edwindeleeuw659027 күн бұрын
As a Knight player with zero interest in Admech, I am disappoint
@LordCrate-du8zm27 күн бұрын
... Then keep playing index bro
@captaincoolbreeze942927 күн бұрын
Seems like you are a Questoris Imperialis Knight player, meaning just Imperial Knights. This detachment is meant for those who wanted a Questoris Mechanicus or Knights of the Cog detachment.
@aqz760327 күн бұрын
@@LordCrate-du8zm no shit lol, what a useless comment
@LordCrate-du8zm27 күн бұрын
@@aqz7603 He's acting like this has ruined the faction forever, it's not that deep.
@aqz760327 күн бұрын
@@LordCrate-du8zm He's saying hes disappointed with the new detach, stop putting words in his mouth.
@neraxont.d761525 күн бұрын
I want my 9th edition rules back. Both Chaos Knight Detachments are boring. Screw fluff I wanna play big Knights and now I need to buy non knights minis to play knights. GW is only out for money
@wesleyhill9126 күн бұрын
As someone who doesnt have any interest in getting i to CSM, i guess im stuck waiting for the CK codex for something new to play
@Hyenadont26 күн бұрын
Between what happened to agents and this for ck, i feel like GW is trying to tell me to change back to chaos
@Garudadurag27 күн бұрын
Hello hello
@psycoalpha31826 күн бұрын
I am NOT playing Knights to go Ad mech. Whole point is grim dark mecha army, that's what makes Imperial knights unique. The whole rework forces you to pay a lot more for admech minis to get the bonuses that balances the nerfs. I just started playing warhammer and i am building my first army as Imperial Knights, i will only play in casual and be sure that i won't play this new codex with my 40k buddies. It's a nerf to the whole concept of imperial knights and an even bigger one to the wallet. I understand that versatility is great, and being able to have more minis to chose from is great, but being forced to play another faction in tandem to be relevant after the big nerfs of the knights resilience is boring
@ToastedMap1e26 күн бұрын
Just use the old detachment? Literally nothing is stopping you , this isn't replacing your rules
@psycoalpha31826 күн бұрын
@ToastedMap1e i will, but i still think it's stupid that in order to minmax imperial knights you now have to put less of them in your army and put another faction in it
@ToastedMap1e26 күн бұрын
@@psycoalpha318 this is a side grade detachment at best , and like you don't have to play it? This is literally a cute side detachment lots of people wanted , I don't exactly understand why you're upset? I mean if your upset it wasn't a generic detachment addition then fair enough ig but wouldn't you rather have this now then for it to take up a codex detachment slot
@psycoalpha31826 күн бұрын
@@ToastedMap1e edit : i am a r*tard, i miss read the whole thing and was mad at the wind 💀