NEW RUSSIAN MRE

GOT TO ENJOY A NEW MRE FROM RUSSIA. ACE BOUGHT IT FOR ME AND A SUBSCRIBER, VLAD, HELPED BY TRANSLATING THE ITEMS SO I COULD KNOW WHAT WE ARE EATING.

[@Trigger-chan]

Топовый контент и дядька клевый

[@viktorrus1968]

ну и рожа довольная когда повидло хомячит.)))) вот же маньяк яблочно-повидловый. ))))

[@clawrix]

+++

[@Sayansundupov]

Согласен

[@MaxDrawsStuff]

I like how chill is your channel. Just some dudes camping, telling stories and trying some food. Very nice, keep it up.

[@MeAncient]

Glad you enjoy it! TFW, Max!

[@zacharylovelady9265]

Yall have the coolest father son relationship. I'd give just about anything for that. You guys are crazy lucky to have each other.

[@darrylriech7722]

Hello Me Ancient and Ace. Great video, I appreciate the details of the description of the foods that you always provide. I thought that the main course would be almost of a casserole type item, instead of a thick soup, according to the picture. Ya gotta talk Ace into trying some of the things he doesn't want to taste, i.e., the liver pate!! LOL!! Glad to see another new posting. God bless, stay safe.

[@MeAncient]

Our pleasure! And as always, Darryl, TFW!

[@ilyanizhnik6874]

Thanks for a review from Siberia.

[@vipergtsmre]

Russian IRP are great. I haven't had this newer one yet, thanks for showing... chicken in a biskit👍👍

[@MeAncient]

Thanks for watching! Oh, boy.....another Chix in Biscuit guy. TFW, Viper!

[@christinevenner183]

I heard 100ml too, very skillful talent you have for measuring water. Patè is a great source of vitamins and minerals, especially iron but its like marmite, you either love it or hate it. The Russian apple jam is legendary, especially as they give a nice big pouch of it. Interesting to see that the new Russian mres are now in pouches, the last one I had the meals came in cans. I really love listening to your stories. If you made an audiobook or even a written book about all your escapades in the Marines, I would be your first customer :) The meal looked like a nice thick soup. Great review. :)

[@MeAncient]

Thank you for those kind words, Christine.

[@47462vladi]

It was a thick pea-bacon soup, you're right. :-)))

[@melonyrichards937]

Another awesome video. Thank you for all that you do to bring us a video. Both of you.

[@MeAncient]

Melony, it is my pleasure. I enjoy putting them together and find that I am enjoying the editing process more as I become more adept at it. TFW!

[@shannonrinehart4635]

Great video Sir! I'm ex-Navy Subs, (the best Marine is a Submarine!) ahaha I really enjoy your sea stories and trying out these MREs. Thanks again and God Bless!

[@decarlosperry5111]

Every time you tell one of your Marine stories it reminds me how tough marines are I live in Washington DC by the Navy Yard and Marine Barracks if I had been brave enough I probably would have tried to join I really appreciate your service and your videos and the way your son said he’ll pass on the pate was funny to me 🤣🤣🤣 can’t wait until the next upload

[@MeAncient]

DeCarlos, TFW! I hope you like the stories. I enjoy sharing them.

[@vladm5992]

Thanks for shout out amazing review as always

[@MeAncient]

Vlad, thank you for helping me out on this one and the ones to come.

[@Sayansundupov]

Such a nice channel I found. Good luck with your channel.

[@user-np6gx5pj1w]

такой супчик только для прогулок на свежем воздухе. Танкистам строго противопоказан) 🤣

[@ravokon]

You are a treasure and the camera man, your family, this country and the world is lucky to have you!

[@n74wilson33]

Love your channel. Hello from 🇨🇦

[@SixShooter1]

Love the videos, really enjoy watching yours and the ones you do with your boys. Not sure when you were there but I was in Beirut Lebanon for 10 months in 1983 aboard the USS Savannah. Great channel.

[@MeAncient]

February through June of ‘83.

[@armaggedon390]

Brown gatorade? Never seen that before. It's always fun to see what the food of different countries is like. Liver pate is one of those things where you either love it or hate it. I think I'm going to make some this week, your video made me hungry and it has been a long time since I had any. I hope it tastes like the eggplant pate my mom used to make, she's a great cook. Cheers.

[@MeAncient]

Love me some eggplant. I'm going to try the pate with the jam next time. I hear it's great that way. TFW

[@jamesdenekas6214]

​@@MeAncient love all your stories from military days

[@Fellowrser]

I love when you and Ace upload back to back 😂

[@gearupsurvival3144]

Who is Ace?

[@sokolov49]

Ancient's son.

[@gearupsurvival3144]

@@sokolov49 never heard of the guy. 🍌

[@MeAncient]

It's a good for all of us, me thinks. TFW

[@chaffcutter58.]

Mate you're as happy as a kid on Christmas Morning. Love your content.

[@tinacreekmore6959]

Love your stories about your past.

[@MeAncient]

Appreciate that, Tina. TFW!

[@bassassassin9572]

A little late, but i watch both your sons channels and recently came across yours! All your guys content is great! Love these videos. Keep it up! And thank you for your service

[@MeAncient]

Welcome aboard! So long as you are here, you're never too late. TFW!

[@karryhoward3946]

Great story sir, Thank you for your service.

[@MeAncient]

Thanks for listening, Karry. TFW!

[@gamingcaveman8014]

Love the stories u tell keep up the awesome videos

[@MeAncient]

Thanks, Caveman!

[@n0rsca392]

Love the background, perfect video setting.

[@MeAncient]

Thanks so much! Glad you like it. TFW

[@okikabkenson3935]

I love your army stories, it's so cool that you share

[@johnmorris4003]

Did i miss this one? It is a good video. well done.

[@The5As7]

Another great video. Keep up the good work.

[@MeAncient]

Thank you for those kind words and TFW!

[@SadieRTrego]

Another fun MRE and great story time ❤️‍🩹

[@MeAncient]

Glad you enjoyed it. I always enjoy sharing my stories. TFW

[@PRAINE216]

I’m not exactly what you could call from a big city. I live in the middle of nowhere Georgia, and love coming home from a stressful day at school and watching Me Ancient . It’s so hard to find good content these days that is also clean. Me Ancient thank you for all of the work you put into making these videos. Everyone remember to LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!!!

[@MeAncient]

Well said!

[@dadbodadventures_]

Nice job 👍 good video as always!!

[@MeAncient]

Thank you! Cheers! TFW, Ryan!

[@DetailedCat]

First it was you who posted then it was Ace . This day is AMAZING. Btw i love your videos just like everyone here

[@MeAncient]

Brajan, I am happy to help anyone's day AMAZING. TFW!

[@mikechudzinski6629]

Awesome video. Quite interesting..

[@MeAncient]

Mike, TFW!

[@EatsTreatsMREs]

Another great ration you got there. Nicely done guys.

[@MeAncient]

Thank you kindly. We have lots more fun ones planned, for sure.

[@JamesJohnsonFishing]

It's always fun seeing some of the different ones from around the world. I'd be curious to see one from Asia.

[@MeAncient]

James, I 'd love to be able to get hold of one. Let me know if you know where a guy can get hold of an MRE from an Asian country. TFW!

[@zedmeister8832]

Before you cleanse your palate..... I'm not a great fan of liver, so when I started on my ration journey I had a bit of trouble with many of the pates. Somewhere along the line, another "enthusiast" suggested that I try eating the pate with the jam (pretty sure it was in relation to a French RCIR). So I did, and man-oh-man, it was GUUUD. Since that time I have developed a taste for all but the strongest livery stuff. When I get the liver, though, I just break out the jam and it's delish. Try it sometime. Cracker, pate, and a smoodge of jam. When you said you had to cleanse your palate between the pate and the apple jam, I remembered this experience. Give it a whirl, I'll bet you like it. Also, THANK YOU for another outstanding video. Hoo-rah! -Zed

[@MeAncient]

Zed, I will be trying that next time I have liver or any pate'. TFW

[@RatstangGarage]

i thought new Russian mre's were non-existent lol XD great content loved the reaction to the heat

[@MeAncient]

That heater was serious business! TFW, Matt!

[@spoonclemons761]

SEMPER FI my Brother great video love the content

[@MeAncient]

Appreciated. Semper Fi, my friend!

[@srijankumarpant1172]

Seemed a decent mre, thanks for the funny story 🙂

[@MeAncient]

Srijan, I appreciate that. TFW!

[@corkbulb2895]

Although the instructions in a US MRE say to place the food bag inside the heater bag, you don't have to. It will still heat up fine as long as the heater stays in contact with the food. Those cardboard sleeves that come with the meal are designed to keep the two in contact even if the food bag is not inside the heater bag. It also helps to have the heating element underneath the food bag, since heat rises. Also, you can use a flameless heater to heat up water for coffee. Put water in the beverage bag and seal it up tight after squeezing all the air out and it all fits in the cardboard sleeve. with the heater. I've gotten good results doing that. Even heating the meal and coffee together. The coffee doesn't get super hot like it would with boiling water, but it can get very warm and is much better than cold water.

[@PvtBear]

Love this vid

[@MeAncient]

Thank you, Canon.

[@tacollins1983]

Nice video leatherneck!!👍👍

[@MeAncient]

Thanks 👍. I appreciate your visiting the channel. TFW!

[@000Battlefield000]

Very good video 👍 Pozdrawiam!

[@MeAncient]

Pozdrawiam back at ya, spider! TFW

[@stripcat1]

ace uploads and you upload at the same time today is going to be a good day

[@MeAncient]

Indeed! Not planned, though.

[@chriscourson2824]

love it!!

[@MeAncient]

Tks, Chris!

[@user-ko3bj3uq8v]

Приятного аппетита мен , рад что понравился Тебе сух-пай.)))

[@Tongll6603]

I like it when you get to eat them and not just get the expired ones. My mother use to make a bean soup just like that.

[@MeAncient]

Wanda, you and me both. TFW!

[@billieyoung497]

I bow my head when you pray over these meals.....always.

[@billieyoung497]

you know my bud...REST IN PEACE spent 24 years in the air force...once he was stationed in england at this place called woodbridge.....giant huge air force base....I went over to visit him and stayed with him...oddly there were lines painted on the ground you were not allowed to cross,not a fense,lines on the cement......if you went across they shot you dead...this base had nuclear weapons on it and some areas off limites with simple lines painted on the ground....I made sure never to step across...LOL

[@MeAncient]

That's cool, Billie, that you visited your bud in England. Sounds like some great memories. TFW!

[@timbob1145]

@@MeAncient You're a top bloke, great attitude all around and a real testament to your military background, though it was clearly tough at times. The fact that you read and reply to so many comments speaks volumes too. I'm not religious, don't pray etc... I'd effectively be lying to God if I did as I wouldn't fully have my heart in it, but I do much respect the fact that you do and I also feel the urge to bow my head. Thanks for your content and although I'm a Brit thanks for your service, I'm sure something you guys did at some point has had an effect on my life in some way. Cheers.

[@BongicusMaximus]

The best is when you get Russian honey. Not sure what's so different about the pollen the bees collect but it's amazing.

[@MeAncient]

I'll have to watch for that. Thanks for the heads up. TFW!

[@suburbanthebot-5583]

I love this channel

[@MeAncient]

I hope you are subbed and TFW!

[@Plantasea]

That goatee is looking extra smooth 😎👏🏽 hope you boys are doing well!

[@MeAncient]

Yes we are. Hope to put a video together with all of us soon. TFW!

[@gearupsurvival3144]

How Me Ancient perfectly measures the proper amount of water needed every single time will always baffle me. Truly a legend 🙌

[@AceVideosOfficial]

Hahahahahahaha

[@gearupsurvival3144]

@@AceVideosOfficial Got a little something something in the mail today Ace....Be on the look out for a video coming soon. I'll let you know jackwagon

[@MeAncient]

Every single time, man! TFW

[@nathanloboski7129]

Awesome my friend

[@MeAncient]

Thanks for the visit, Nathan!

[@phily9667]

I'm going to get my hands on some Canadian IMP rations to send your way soon, one for Asa as well!

[@n0rsca392]

PAIN BUN

[@vipergtsmre]

I have lots of the paper bag ones, but if you have a connection for the new style, let me know😉 Even my friends in Canada can't get them without spending a fortune.

[@MeAncient]

Phil, that would be amazing! Let me know if you need the address and TFW!

[@eltenda]

Interesting video and ration!

[@MeAncient]

I just have to be careful not to repeat the stories while filming. My family tells me that I do that occasionally. TFW!

[@eltenda]

@@MeAncient lol.same here..

[@Mewt0]

When you bit that cracker and left a tiny piece between your fingers i cracked up haha

[@MeAncient]

Wasn't sure how it would taste. TFW!

[@denisdavidov3306]

Solid, how have you changed!

[@lauramillard8265]

Use the American heater bag as a measuring cup put the heater in the brown bag for the heating. Fits anything you want to heat. Great in winter too seeing as it’s much thicker and offers some insulation for the heat.

[@MeAncient]

Now that's a GREAT idea!!! Thank you so much for that, Laura. TFW!

[@VHSKacceta]

This is not a new MRE of the Russian army. It's just an MRE that is used by some services, in some situations.

[@timbob1145]

I think he meant that it was new to him... But good clarification. 👍

[@gabbel8117]

You should try a sandwich with liverpaste and som sliced pickles on it. We eat it all the time here in sweden😁

[@MeAncient]

I've heard that pickles is good and a few subscribers have also recommended jelly/liverpaste as a good combo. I'll have to try both, although not at the same time......TFW, Jakt & Skytte!

[@Emeraldwitch30]

And fresh sliced onion. We also love the liver paté with pickled onions.

[@CorbinDallasMP]

The funny thing is you literally do want to mix that jam with the liver paté. The tart acidity and sweetness of that jam or any jam cuts the fat richness and its a better eating experience. It’s the principal of any good charcuterie board.

[@MeAncient]

I'm going to try that next time I have pate'. TFW, David

[@jayfelsberg1931]

Bug juice...oh golly that brings back memories.. I discovered doing my mess duty that bug juice powder was very useful for cleaning the pipes for the steam tables. It was trick used by the Filipino mes cooks ad it worked really well. You could drink it; the orange was OK. Eventually there came a time before an UNREP ir VERTREP and even the sterilized milk ran out that it was all to drink other than coffee, which is always best.

[@MeAncient]

Jay, when were you in? I LOVED chow hall food in boot camp. Didn't mind it in the fleet either, but I preferred Air Force or Navy chow halls. TFW!

[@jayfelsberg1931]

@@MeAncient I live in the Free State of Alabama. I started boot at NTC Orlando in Sept. 13, 1973. I must say the Naval Service paid heed to good advice many years ago that, "If the men are going to kick, they will kick about the grub first," and they do a good job of feeding the crew., I came from a struggling household with a single mom and there were times we were not sure when that next meal was coming from, so this was nirvana. Ditto NTC Great Lakes, and fleet service.

[@MeAncient]

@@jayfelsberg1931 So you're an Old Salt! Well, the older I get the more I enjoyed my time on your cruise ships I was able to board. One thing for sure, the chow was good and plentiful. I LOVED mid-rats! Semper Fi!

[@jayfelsberg1931]

@@MeAncient Glad you enjoyed your vacation trips courtesy of the Senior Service. Geez, Marines.....WEB Griffin is right; if you didn't fight like demons there would be a bounty on you. Still, myself and the Long Beach (TIP) were happy to escort you into harm's way. Our Marine locker had a tag on the mirror: "Join the Navy and see the word; join the Marines and destroy it."

[@Emeraldwitch30]

Lol I make a wonderful chicken liver mousse /paté and my cats all look at it wistfully when I get it out. I've always loved a lot of different patés and liver or canned meats. All the MREs with them in make me wanna buy and try them.

[@Emeraldwitch30]

Emmyinjapan accidently made the apple jam into a hot beverage lol...but it sure looked like she enjoyed it.

[@dustin_diamond]

Me Ancient deserves 1M subs! I always enjoy your content🤙

[@vladm5992]

He will def get there.

[@straybullitt]

Me Ancient deserves 10 million subs! He should be right up there with that pewdiepie guy, really.

[@vladm5992]

Him and steve1989mre are the best

[@MeAncient]

Maybe one day! In the mean time, I'll just enjoy trying out new MREs and remembering the old ones with y'all. TFW, Dustin!

[@tinacreekmore6959]

Are you going to do some fishing videos with your son's like they do with you along with your MRE videos? Would LOVE to see a three way cook off.

[@MeAncient]

Tina, wait for it.....wait for it. Got to let the weather get more consistent.

[@cathyandrews2148]

I believe that is apple butter ❤ yum!

[@MeAncient]

It was really good. TFW

[@johnmorris5965]

Cool .

[@MeAncient]

Tks!

[@connorblake2291]

Hey there, Turns out the site I thought was fake was I think one of aces many many different selling platforms hahaha. God Bless

[@MeAncient]

Connor, welcome aboard. I hope you enjoy the content. TFW!

[@Indiskret1]

That first can looks just like Gourmet cat food, agreed. My cats favorite! 😅

[@MeAncient]

Ouch! TFW

[@TheKeenasan]

when he talking about adding some solt he adding a lot of that lol xD

[@PRAINE216]

Keep making videos

[@MeAncient]

Will keep trying. TFW, Yancey!

[@madliarcharlie9695]

I love Russian pashtet

[@MeAncient]

Me too, Charlie! TFW

[@maksshapovalov413]

These crackers are so hard that you can use them as an additional armor, you will agree that it is convenient.XD

[@The.deusexmachina]

Are you and your sons Eagle Scouts? Love Idaho, lived in IF-Ashton for two years

[@MeAncient]

Always wanted to join the Scouts, but never could. I checked out all the badge books from the library where I grew up and learned lots from the books, for sure. How about you? Were you a Scout? TFW

[@geno5360]

Liver and apple jelly actually sounds delicious to me. The French are known for making terrines out of offal (especially liver) and fruit and the Russians stole some of those French tricks a while back from the days of Olivier cooking for the Russian czars.

[@MeAncient]

I'm going to try that when I get liver in an MRE next time. TFW!

[@geno5360]

@@MeAncient I wish I could have suggested it as you were filming if it were live or something but yeah if you ever get a chance to try it out you might enjoy a sweet and tart jelly cutting against the richness of that pate on a nice cracker.

[@MeAncient]

@@geno5360 Perhaps as we gain subscribers, I'll open one on a livestream one day and I'll get to have some feedback as we go. TFW, Ge No!

[@dea690]

Lol it’s actually the other way around

[@eygnaukreynish]

actually, it is customary for Russians to mix apple jelly (rus: Powidlo) with melted cheese, which is included in the 24-hour MRE

[@James-sir]

I like it warm

[@MeAncient]

Indeed....especially when it's a bit chilly outside. TFW, James.

[@Ironlegiontraining]

That same drill movement got me fired as a squad leader in bootcamp! Funny story!!

[@MeAncient]

Cory, I totally understand! We had another incident where the drill instructors had picked out one guy that was good and a natural leader, but he was short and wasn't picked for squad leader at first. In our platoon, they picked the 5 tallest initially as squad leaders. Anyway, they wanted this other guy in so they took us original 5 (4 squad leaders and guide) in the back room and had us do preacher's seats until someone collapsed and gave up. One guy finally did (3rd squad leader as I recall) and the drill instructors replaced him with the recruit they wanted. Fortunately, I did not get fired..... Semper Fi, my friend! Where did you go to boot camp?

[@Ironlegiontraining]

@@MeAncient I went to MCRD San Diego back in June of 1988. Platoon 1066, funny that I still remember that!

[@MeAncient]

@@Ironlegiontraining They say you never do forget you platoon number and your Senior DI......3059 and SSGT WATSON.....He was a decorated (Bronze Star) Viet Nam Vet....good man. We also had SGT Kerr and SGT Seymour as junior DIs.

[@Ironlegiontraining]

@@MeAncient One other thing I don't think we will ever forget is our MOS. I really enjoyed my time in the Corps, still miss some aspects of it.

[@warfarewar8206]

wall to wall counseling lol

[@MeAncient]

That's a great line! TFW

[@gheedly13]

The piglet edit 🤣. I’m guessing that was an ace edit

[@MeAncient]

Alex, why do you doubt my ability? That was totally me. :-). TFW

[@davidmunro1469]

Thank you team the Russian mre,s are always good. I would not like the horse meat one.

[@MeAncient]

David, I'd like to try that one if it's out there. TFW!

[@coffeeunit5217]

You could have used the wather you put in the heating bag for the tea ;)

[@MeAncient]

I certainly had enough room in that bag. I could have warmed socks in that thing! TFW!

[@patricelajoie2383]

Do you think you could have put your cantine in the bag to warm up water for the tea?

[@Ronald_Abell]

I'd love to hang with ancient if end of world we would eat anything. Ace maybe to cause I'd get to eat a bunch cause he would pass n more for me.

[@SadieRTrego]

I really pate always have, and never ate heated. I always thought it's a cold spread like cheeses and crackers with a relish

[@MeAncient]

That's the way.

[@PLRtx]

Приветствую -

[@krieger41861]

We definitely chewed the same ground, I was on the IWO JIMA, and Beirut in 83. Semper Fi

[@MeAncient]

What!!!! Which unit were you with? Navy or USMC?

[@krieger41861]

@@MeAncient USMC 2nd Marine Division out of Camp Lejeune

[@MeAncient]

@@krieger41861 What unit were you with, Jeff? Did you stay in as a career? What months were you in Beirut and how did you get there/back? Semper Fi.

[@krieger41861]

Got there on the Mount Whitney and Nimitz January 83, left in September on the Guadalcanal, I was in 2nd Recon division. I did not make a career out of the Marine Corps. Did you make a career out of it?

[@MeAncient]

@@krieger41861 So you just missed the Beirut Hilton/Marine Barracks bombing. We were definitely there at the same time. We had an LP on top of the Beirut Hilton. There were some snipers next to us on the roof. I have a pix of them from when we were all at our posts. I took COLD showers under the hose bib spigot that we raised somehow to above my head (I'm 6' 5"). No shower head, just a spigot where you would ordinarily hook up a hose. It was the coldest water I have ever showered under but it felt damned good in the heat. The cold took my breath away. You were there when the embassy in town was bombed then, as was I. Did you happen to go to the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader show? It was a multi national show. I have pix with an Italian soldier. We swapped covers during the show. The older I get, the more I enjoyed it and the better I was. And NO, I did not make a career out of the Corps......no regrets either. How about you, Jeff?

[@okikabkenson3935]

Guys it is very hot in summer in Russia. :) And of course Russia is so big that some regions don't have winter at all. Well central regions are pretty cold but only in winter :)

[@Stinger9516]

I was waiting to see if it was Salt or Sugar😂 I know at the start he wasn’t sure about some of the packets

[@MeAncient]

I had my translations on the back of the bag, but I had to look at them each time and I didn't like that way that looked and how much time it took as I just winged it. TFW, Brian.

[@srdragan317]

the brown Powder i think is Chocolate powder heat water and put it in

[@loveapup01]

Just a little bit of salt dumps whole packet of salt on 😂

[@James-sir]

It’s like head cheese but smooth

[@MeAncient]

real liver flavor, though, James!

[@kahnadah]

Cool. It's good to know that Russia isn't doing anything which would require using MRE's.

[@MeAncient]

That thought hadn't occurred to me. Interesting. TFW!

[@ilyanizhnik6874]

Liver and pea porrige. You need to be a real oldschool to eat it with joy. I think I would starve.

[@ivandjordjevic4665]

dobar pasulj corba..uvek je bio vojnicki pasulj

[@lukephillips6001]

I love bug juice

[@MeAncient]

it was good stuff in boot camp. TFW, Luke

[@James-sir]

You should have heated the can to in there they cook like no other Russian Ukraine and the Asian countries they’re heaters are so good

[@MeAncient]

note to self for next video with big heater. TFW, James

[@s.sflower]

Who else watches Me Ancient's videos before sleeping? 😆

[@marzipanhuman2356]

I prefer to do that while eating)

[@s.sflower]

@@marzipanhuman2356 that too 😁

[@MeAncient]

So I put people to sleep? :--)

[@s.sflower]

@@MeAncient lol! No, your videos are comforting and entertaining 😇 God bless you!

[@w.reidripley1968]

@@MeAncient Seriously, you make 'em go snack. Interesting how often Eastern Bloc field rats seem to include modern hardtack in about every meal... those cracker-oid things. I guess it's ethnic, like how the Canadian IMP is "very Canadian."

[@James-sir]

The crackers are delicious

[@MeAncient]

They are, my friend!

[@Ducky90011]

Marines or army ?

[@MeAncient]

USMC. How about you, Klaus?

[@yarasputin]

I can't understand why you make tea with cold water?

[@bellknapej]

Didn't know DI's were allowed to physically reprimand a marine. But times were different back then..

[@MeAncient]

They weren't............ TFW