NEW Ryzen APU DESTROYS The RTX 4070?!

[@GamerMeld]

Don't get me wrong. We definitely DON'T want Intel to go away because then AMD becomes the next Intel. It's just natural. Why spend billions of dollars on new tech when you have the only products anyway?

[@Rouzuki]

After Intel dominated the market so long, with AMD struggling to catch up for a good two decades, now Intel has a few off years and they're ready to throw in the towel? WTF?

[@rockybalboa5611]

APU with 120W TDP can't beat dedicated GPU that runs itself 200W.

[@animejanai4657]

Agreed. The desperateness of AMD to compete against Intel was why the AMD processors rose up out of the mud to compete and force Intel to have better faster processors with multiple cores and evolved architecture and not just lukewarm improved architecture between each uplifted processor.

[@TheKims82]

Intel had monopoly and got lazy. If it wasn't for AMD we would still be on 4 Core for the High-End.

[@wololo10]

And 14nm+++++++++++++

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Tbf now AMD are kinda settling in with Zen 7 and 9. This for me reminded me of Intel of old back before AMD was truly competitive.

[@POLARTTYRTM]

Intel's high-end CPUs were all 18+ cores. Look their X lineup. That's where the i9 came from to the main market.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

​@@wololo1014nm++ happen because how hard it is to maintain and keep advancing those node. AMD given of on GF becuase of that. Even samsung having issues since 5nm generation.

[@chriswright8074]

Not really you just had to pay more broadwell e

[@the_astrokhan]

Don't get me wrong, Im an AMD fanboy and shareholder but I don't want Intel to go away...

[@Desturel]

This is basically just speculation. It's not going to happen. It's fluff for people who don't know how business acquisitions work and it gets nice headlines.

[@MrMcWitt]

Same here

[@florisberents8971]

Its more like it could technically happen but the real chance is next to zero

[@alix5atasi]

nobody wants that, no competition is BAD

[@florisberents8971]

@@alix5atasi pretty much what happened to intel

[@bartegexe8182]

Ah yes The Ryzen 4070

[@jonathanpeterson7456]

Finally

[@sobiazeb6913]

He saw the future

[@oo_doggo4736]

if amd buys intel we are getting 1000$ cpus

[@jimdob6528]

Don’t think they can legally own them. That forms a monopoly

[@mug786]

we need non-us chip manufacturers. cpus should be like cars.

[@JohnDoe-tv4zd]

@@jimdob6528 except monopoly exist everywhere, black rock , state street , vanguard own 90 percent of everything

[@erickalvarez6486]

Qualcomm and Nvidia in the game too, what you mean​@@jimdob6528

[@FullMetal-Tech]

@@jimdob6528 but Nvidia bought 3DFX.

[@ALI-soon1Milli]

Funny but let’s hope it won’t be AMD. That would give them the monopoly we didn’t want with Intel ..

[@jimdob6528]

Monopolies are very illegal in and outside of the USA.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

​@@jimdob6528 They kinda can't be structurally, only wholesale acquisitions that create monopolies can be stopped for the sake of fair trade and consumer rights. AMD could get a part ownership of Intel and that will be run through litigation and whatever else, to make sure there's no wholesale take over.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

AMD can't take intel in. AMD exist because intel cannot be the sole supplier to x86 back in the 70s.

[@arch1107]

if intel is bought, you lose x86 competition, qualcomm will not wan t x86, will just want patents and fabs amd will want the same one thing im almost sure is that intel gpus are done.

[@neverhonors2688]

​@@arch1107 i agree, also Qualcomm might be able to build the perfect translation layer of x86 to ARM by owning Intel patent and knowledge

[@georgik898]

If they merge its gonna be a dark day for PC industry😢

[@GhostofZuuzGaming]

amd + intel = insane price increases due to lack of competition.

[@gertjanvandermeij4265]

WHAT competition ? Intel is already 5 years behind !

[@sureberferber9101]

Gamer Meld Today: AMD To The RESCUE?! Gamer Meld Tomorrow: INTEL To The RESCUE?! Gamer Meld Wednesday: NVIDIA To The RESCUE?! Me: 🤨😐😑

[@FinneyGames_BBG]

News channels 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@tyjing873]

totally lol

[@Liovir]

ez money

[@manum5998]

Meld : Samsung to Rescue Apple 😂😂😂😂

[@saultube44]

Yes the guy is always making a scandal, like a n00b, out of nothing; I gave him realistic comments and he never likes them haha. But he's a useful fool, brings the news and he earns $, so it's in balance. He doesn't care what anyone comments as long as it brings views for monetization 😊

[@mariorruiz]

You’re good in thumbnails and clickbait, I’ll give you that

[@Porsche996TT]

Yep, the title clearly implies that an APU "DESTROYS" the RTX 4070. He could at least write 4070M or 4070 Mobile.

[@Armand79th]

Literally the only game he had.....

[@slickzMdzn]

Very misleading title to name the 4070 when it’s just the laptop version

[@TC-hl1ws]

4070 on the CPU is absolutely amazing, but I'll believe it when I see it. The APU claims are always spectacular on the rumors and then disappointing when they actually release. I'd love to be proven wrong.

[@adeptuspotatocus6451]

4070 mobile is the same GPU as the desktop 4060Ti but clocked lower and performs worse than a desktop 4060. It's gonna be awesome for integrated graphics. My problem is that it's probably going to be an $800 part.

[@another_turtle]

@@adeptuspotatocus6451 Still $800 APU will be big for handhelds and mini pcs

[@Flyon86]

@@adeptuspotatocus6451 It's not going to be cheap for sure, but it would be great for laptops and mini pc's. Especially if they can get somewhat decent cooling. Running a laptop with a even a 1650 in it was like microwaving your hand on the wasd for any modern game lol.

[@rubrfox]

I doubt the FTC would allow an AMD buyout of Intel because of monopoly, even if congress says it's okay. Majority of congress are insider traders, so they say yes to any major stock buys. I think the Qualcomm or Samsung rumors of more plausible. Edit: fixed a double negative that shouldn't have been included.

[@Felale]

They won’t allow the sale because Intel is important for national security. It’s like Boeing. Won’t happen.

[@bionicseaserpent]

more plausable cosidering there was talk of the ARM company deciding to kill off their ARM licence cause of a merger they made with another ARM licence holder. they would need to get into any other architecture, i was hoping for a possible massive RISC-V Manufacturer but if they did AMD64 thats fine too

[@kericsX]

the best would be samsung, maybe could samsung and intel fusion their foundrys and have better chance versus tsmc. Qualcomm would be bad because amd would have the monopol

[@RaúlAlejandroOropezaBatista]

AMD buying Intel is a crazy picture, who knows, it really seems like Intel is not gonna make it🙁

[@oswaldjh]

AMD Rep said they were not going to compete on high end GPUs and concentrate on the lower to mid range cards. Wasn't sure how if they were only releasing 2 GPU cores and now this announcement tells me how they'll flood the market with these kick ass APUs. I can see a mini computer the size of a Mac Mini or NUC running Space Marine II at 1440p 100 FPS.

[@ziggs123]

That would be crazy but I highly doubt you can put so much power into it. More like 60fps would be also really good

[@GamingAndUSAIsDeadCuzFarleft]

dont think it will run anything higher than 1080p 144 . dude..... there is only 32CUs in the 8core.. and a mini pc with that Strix Halo will be $1500 i guarantee that.. THEHY ARE NOT GONNA BE CHEAP....

[@Spazzfrom.1989]

@@GamingAndUSAIsDeadCuzFarleft not bad considering nvidia tries to sell those 70 laptops from 1500 to 2k

[@420killaNA]

they aren't lmao this shit mentions Qualcomm aka "Snapdragon" and are like mobile processors that'll power a phone but fall flat on their asses when trying to fucking play Microsoft Solitaire or Minesweeper on a full desktop PC setting - irrelevant af - merger yes, glorious "OMG we win the war, total domination!" congrats on taking over Android & shitty Chromebook market while not even applying to desktop and some laptops... whee! only 0.000000000001% of the market bc no one uses that shit LOL

[@420killaNA]

I mean I got an Android phone and "we", collectively, "will still upgrade our phones and utilize the tech advancements indirectly" but no one's replacing a 4090 with a damn 0.003ghz "super ultra low economy energy efficient vegan and LGBTQ friendly" APU that would take 9 years to make it to the title screen of the original text command line version of King's Quest 1 on a desktop PC... no thanks, count me out - but I will take a 9950X3D and 7900 XTX if you insist on donating one to a worthy cause 😂

[@MohawkNinja636]

Imagine being back in 2010 and telling someone that AMD would be possibly buying Intel. You'd be called crazy. I've always had AMD chips but I knew they were considered the cheap budget option. Fast forward to Ryzen and the game completely changed! What a wild ride!

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Today AMD can get away with pricing ryzen 7s the same as an i9 just because it has double cake like design. If this isn't premium idk what is.

[@Sira_Kackavalj]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat AMD really did the "call the ambulance, but not for me"

[@nutl3255]

I work for intel and honestly the leadership is a joke. PAT and the finance team have failed us. Also the new cpus absolute garbage. Only good thing that has happened is the gpus which weren't even that good. Its such a shame they had to lay off 15k people (around 7.8k voluntarily) Because year after year we predicted higher earnings then we would actually receive.

[@tanmay8952]

i feel bad for you, he drowned intel

[@zigzigkiller4857]

Another Issue is intel lazy work culture

[@Hi-levels]

Because they cared about Israel more than their business. Kept investing in Israel making Jews richer. And as a result they had lots of empty employees and empty investments now biting them hard. Why would you invest in Middle fucking East? To lower unemployment in Jewish state?

[@user-mw4jb7yl3l]

7:17 AMD wants to sell their mid end GPUs as well hence they won't intentionally cannibalize their profits. Both AMD and intel has made strong iGPUs for laptops ONLY like iris, XE, 780M and 890M. So no Midrange and low end GPUs are anything but in danger. Though AMD had the tech to make an SOC with 36+ CUs since 2020, they were never ported on desktop. So no iGPUs do not compete with dGPUs because one is for DIY and one is for OEM. In order to change this DIY would need to surpass OEM in sales and should also be okay paying a premium for very small performance gains similar to how the AI 9 HX 370 costs 2k

[@jomendoz13]

A merger between AMD and Intel, I don't see that happening. It would basically make a monopoly in the PC sector. I see Nvidia being allowed to buy Intel - since they also have the cash for it, they would have CPU and GPU to compete with AMD. Basically a Duopoly between Nvidia and AMD (sort of).

[@kaseyboles30]

Threadripper 3D. That could be interesting.

[@bgtubber]

Too bad the good old days of affordable Threadrippers are gone. :( I own both the 1st and 3rd gen Threadripper. The 32-core 3970x is still a fantastic CPU when I'm doing core-heavy stuff or when I need tons of expansion. The new Threadrippers are so expensive, you might as well just buy the Epycs, their fully enabled server counterparts.

[@flamingofan1820]

imagine a gigabyte of l3 cache.....

[@tringuyen7519]

If Threadripper gets the same 3D V-cache as the 9800X3D, then ppl could OC Threadripper too. Right?

[@Foukez]

If AMD give me a $700 card that have 4080 rasterization performance I am buying.

[@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis]

7900xtx is already 700$ even lower at times, thats faster than a a rtx 4080

[@15ag34]

@@NeVErseeNMeLikEDis nope, slower in almost everything relevant outside of strictly gaming. Also can't use for AI, doesn't support cuda. basically - don't buy AMD gpus unless you ONLY game.

[@Spazzfrom.1989]

Nigga..do u think the people on here are doing ai? Sit down bro​@@15ag34

[@dennismeurs9736]

@@15ag34 NVIDIA CUDA Can Now Directly Run On AMD GPUs Using The "SCALE" Toolkit.

[@TheLapari]

@@15ag34 7900XTX wins in 4K gaming performance, not sure where you get that info, but 4K is the resolution you should be using with high end GPUs nowadays.

[@deilusi]

For those who wonder 3:30, if you manage to fit your computation into the cache, it goes up to 70Gbps sustained, if you dont, its halved, if you load, then halved again if you load multiple chunks. you need to optimize your code for this, but a lot of compute on servers is running on very specific hardware, for this reason. If you are above a single variable that cannot fit into cache, speed halves. AMD cache gives you about 10x what was previously avaliable, SO people can do really crazy things. Only issue is that its complexicity is absolutly crazy.

[@suaveplex]

I always loved AMD but I don't want them to have monopoly of X86 space. AMD was great because INTEL was great.

[@Stoddlez]

Why would you have the timestamps in the description but not on the video bar? Is it too time consuming? I hate it when there are no timestamps...

[@mkatakm]

Competition laws won't let AMD buy Intel.

[@arch1107]

it will not be a buy, it will be a take parts and same for qualcomm, amd can use pantents, qualcomm will take fabs, we dont have to hear abut intel, everybody happy. intel is basically bankrupt now, so it is different, the laws are different that way

[@mkatakm]

@arch1107 well then let's get ready to pay thousands per CPU.

[@joshhardin666]

I don't think that it makes sense that policy makers (at least in the US) will allow qualcom and intel to merge. - there are way too few cpu makers. the fact that qualcomm has now FINALLY started with notebook (and maybe soon desktop?) chips may give us more technology competition in the next couple of years is actually really good for the industry, we need more competition, NOT more mergers.up until just recently desktop and notebook cpus have been a duopoly for entirely too long and that keeps prices high and quality down when either of the companies has an overwhelming advantage (like amd has currently and intel had a few short years ago in the "bulldozer" timeframe.) I'm VERY anti-merger when the space consists of fewer than ~5 players.

[@KrashFries]

if amd buys intel i’ll have to stop buying amd cpus, too.

[@AzusaSnowflake]

Then what will you get for the cpu ?😂

[@nick-dogg]

AMD buying Intel would make sense. Hopefully they open the x86 platform to nVidia.

[@RobloxianX]

I had a crazy theory. These new APUs begin a new era of PC building, where GPUs arent needed, and are thus seen as this "Luxury item", and thus increase in price instead of decreasing to meet competition. It'll be like having 4 sticks of RAM, it used to be a common method to increase your memory but as memory was able to get on 2 sticks to high capacities just fine, 4 sticks became this luxury item instead of becoming a possible budget option for more ram for less as it would be cheaper to make each stick.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

Can happen but APUs will not outperform the mid range GPUs unless given something like octa channel memory. APUs are not all good, the take away from the customization that we're used to. You won't be able to upgrade CPU and GPU separately.

[@TamasKiss-yk4st]

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat well, even Apple using more than 500GB/s bandwith in their Mecbook (laptop..) and their M4 Ultra wirh doubled bandwith didn't even released.. and that 1TB/s not jusz between VRAM and GPU.. it's across all things.. even between CPU and RAM and even between CPU and GPU (what is connected with a 32GB/s limited PCIe 4.0 x16 slot on those dedicated GPU machines..) so even the APU can beat those desktop GPU models.. because it's like the SSD, it's smaller like the HDD, but 30x faster (the diff between 32GB/s PCIe 4.0x16 slot and 1060GB/s if M4 Ultra also "just" doubling the M4 Max speed..) and noone care if you can calculate 100 frames in each sec, if you only can deliver 20 frames in each sec with poor bandwith.. bigger resolutions will use bigger textures with way bigger file size too, so the bandwith isn't a "who cares" category..

[@LB-yg2br]

lol your analogy is weird AF. Ram has never been cheaper…

[@RobloxianX]

@@LB-yg2br You're taking my point out of context. 4 Sticks, I'm talking about 4 Sticks. Come on man.

[@LB-yg2br]

@@RobloxianX you said it would be a luxury item and increase in price...but ram is ram...and a stick of ram is cheaper today than it has ever been. Yes, 4 sticks is more expensive than 2 sticks of ram....that has always been the case man. I remember when I built my first PC and it was about a dollar per MB of ram...and that held whether you got 4 sticks of 8 mb or 2 sticks of 16mb. I just looked on Amazon and you can buy 2 sticks for a discount combined price....so just buy 2 of the bundles and you get 4. Come on man...own it. You said something wrong on the internet. Ram didn't get more expensive and the cost has always been related to the amount of ram. You might get a slight discount if you by a bundle...that was ALWAYS true of bundles. How old are you?

[@dexterjsullen]

Intel set the stage for their own demise, for nearly a dacade they decided to not improve on their chip designs and wait for competition.

[@disturbedspacemonkey]

AMD and Intel are the only companies that own / lease rights to X86 & X64 CPU's, apart from Via that is not in the competition right now. AMD and Intel cannot merge or buy each other out without giving up the X86 and X64 rights to allow for new competition or they would become one monopoly.

[@stephenjones8928]

Thank you sir. A voice of reason in the wilderness. 👍

[@DazePhase]

Will be interesting in the near future to use this APU into SFF builds. Without a dedicated GPU they can get even smaller. Got a 14L case here. Some of these can get sub 5L of volume.

[@jouniosmala9921]

Laptop 4070 is renamed and underclocked desktop 4060ti 8GB. The APU has twice the memory bus width, and while having much lower clocks, the bandwidth should still be higher. But it would definitely loose to GDDR7 128bit bus, or GDDR6 with 192bit bus. It's just moving the minimum reasonable performance for a low-end card a bit higher, thus it moves the costs and minimum reasonable PRICE of low-end card a bit higher. On the other hand Strix Halo is the very high end integrated laptop product where you are probably going to have to pay price of a GPU and CPU for it. There's no free lunch there. You are going to have pay for the silicon with fixed costs and profit margins of three companies on top of it. The Integrated is to be cheap because they added very little cost to the CPU, this is another beast. Wider memory bus, and far greater number of core's with extra costs associated with it. But if it would be something like extra 100$-200$ over the CPU that would still be more cost effective for laptops. But it's not for desktops, simply because it would have a threadripper like memory interface that's not compatible with AM5.

[@rangersmith4652]

The AM4 platform transformed the DIY CPU landscape. Ryzen caught Intel with its figurative pants down, and team blue still hasn't recovered. Core Ultra has the potential to get Intel back on track, but the first iteration fell well short. No Intel fanboy, but I'm hoping the next Core Ultra generation closes the gap.

[@Met1900]

I dont think anyone gona buy them. Intel is just getting it in order. Great server chips and notebooks. Desktop not that good. But if they manage the 18a production they are def. back.

[@hamtan99]

Competition is good for the price. Looking at Nvidia.

[@SomeUserNameBlahBlah]

Don't forget that AMD bought Xilinx and Intel bought Alterra. This means if AMD buys Intel, not only will AMD be a monopoly on x86 CPUs, it will also be a monopoly for FPGAs.

[@SamyakGupta-e5q]

If intel goes out, x86/x64 platform might be in danger when considering ARM based chip

[@gottawon6415]

I just want the 4070 to come down in price. Ive been waiting all year to buy one and I really hope they go on sale black friday or boxing day and not just 5% off.

[@frankjohannessen6383]

A laptop 4070 is basically a desktop 4060, so the AI PLUS MAX PRO ULTRA TITAN SUPER will probably not even beat the entry level 5060.On the other hand, it will probably be an awesome mini-workstation.

[@justreality4054]

It's still incredibly impressive though.

[@frankjohannessen6383]

@@justreality4054 My comment came off as more harsh than I intended. Yes, an APU at the same level as the entry-level newest gen discrete GPUs is impressive. Although given the naming, I'm worried that AMD will price it just below a Macbook Pro M3/M4 MAX so it won't really be an entry/mid-level gaming alternative.

[@mariankowalski9797]

ITS AT 5:49

[@thseed7]

I'd love an APU to be able to trade blows with mid range GPUs. I already think a GPU and CPU combination would be awesome for small form factor, mini PC, mobile/laptop applications and think any advancement in the area is supremely interesting.

[@arch1107]

what is going to happent to userbenchmark? 😄

[@mikebutterface8583]

Userbenchmark will self consume like Pizza The Hutt

[@arch1107]

@@mikebutterface8583 that will be beautiful 🤣

[@mughug9616]

Would Quadcomm slowly drop x86 in order to push customers to their ARM-based chips. It would not be the first time a company has purchased a major competitor to remove them from the market.

[@solarissv777]

You know what would be great - if Qualcomm got x86 license so they could make a hybrid ARM-x86 processors. Basically, an arm processor with some x86 cores. That would be best of both worlds: the OS and majority of low demanding applications running on ARM, while, legasy and some specialized software (that actually requires x86) runs in an "emulation" environment, but instead of emulating anything it would pass x86 instructions to actual x86 cores.

[@FadedSparkx86]

You super missed the part where that press release from gigabyte mentions an 18% improvement for 9000 series NON x3d parts.

[@thornstrikesback]

It's 'up to 18%' so that will be for the 1 game out of 50 tested. The wording is somewhat deceiving when talking about the non-X3D CPU's but it's definitely not a standard 18% across the board. Also.... I am calling it..... This has to be a marketing gimmick, because there is no way AMD will give Gigabyte this 'power' and not other motherboard manufacturers. There is no way Asus, MSI, ASRock etc. would sit idly by and let Gigabyte have this all to themselves. I am sure it's just a fancy way of saying "it's a new method of overclocking" ........but I guess we'll see.

[@peternagy6656]

As a 7950x3d owner, the 9xxx series is for me a clear "no thanks". With 8 cores per ccd even if AMD puts x3d cache onto both ccd, still the infinity fabric remains the bottleneck, hence my next cpu upgrade will be the last am5 fastest x3d equipped model (in 2026 or 27?) which will certainly include 16 cores per ccd and give another 5 years longevity.

[@robertmorris9450]

Yeah, you got a better deal than you thought at the time of purchase. How good is it with air cooling?

[@peternagy6656]

@robertmorris9450 I'm cooling it with a Nochtua NH-D15. Per core underclocked, 64GB RAM 6200CL32, no issues at all.

[@njspencer79]

Qualcomm seems a logical choice. AMD a bad one. I saw intel as near monopoly multiple times. Innovation slowed and prices rose.

[@sirhammon]

LOL Crushing an NVidia GPU? ComfyUI says otherwise in my books. Maybe in 5 years time if AMD actually support Local AI properly.

[@Kapono5150]

No way regulators would allow AMD to buy Intel

[@EtzSehSil]

We got the ryzen 4070 before gta vi

[@SmortSquirtle]

If intel goes, we along with our cpus are gonna get cooked 🔥🔥💀

[@takeoffwithjakesoft]

I'd be shocked if AMD and Intel were allowed to merge by the US regulatory commissions. That's a pretty clear monopoly. Anti-trust lawsuits would be filed, no matter what this GM is reporting.

[@scottmiller2591]

A competitive APU with access to some of that sweet, sweet 128GB memory would be a game-changer.

[@FrederikSeerupNielsen]

5:21 I thought about this as well since they are coming out with the 9800x3d in advance. Could potentially be to make people upgrade from 9800x3d to 9950x3d when it comes out.

[@stephanschmidt2334]

Rumors say there will be 2 16-core variants, one with 3d cache for one CCD and one with 3d cache for both CCDs b/c it makes most sense that the fastest gaming CPU is the most expensive.

[@darthslackus499]

If AMD bought Intel, oh the shame. Intel you done F'd up!

[@relic_weak]

why are you moving so much during the whole video?-asked by my friend who watched your video for first time in my laptop

[@ianhaylock7409]

AMD will never be allowed to buy Intel because of the singular parrot.

[@nexxusty]

AMD buying Intel would be the worst possible situation for us all. I'd be quitting being a PC enthusiast if that happens.

[@refisherdesktop]

If I made an actual drinking game out of how many times you say "actually", I would actually be drunk off my actual ass right now. Actually. 😄

[@Hi-levels]

It's not gonna crash any market. It's not massive. Shitty click bait. Look at laptop market. Amd apu laptops are more expensive than nvidia 4050 systems sucks

[@billpii6314]

I've done a quick look at Gigabyte's x3d turbo mode, and so far, it's not worth the effort. I got 1 fps faster on one try and lost 2 fps on another. The big pain is that you have to go into the BIOS to change back and forth 6 cores for the turbo mode or all your cores for productivity. eckkkk

[@CharisPapas]

Super than means that half power consuption in comparison to nvidia 4070 and a 16core amd cpu. Lets hope that those apus will come also for desktop too puting in half the power consumption.

[@baileywatkins4433]

It would be nice if amd and Nvidia collaborate a GPU together

[@RobAryeeArc]

1:24 Still the greatest marketing I've ever seen. "Xeon was great. So was coal."

[@madthane_]

AMD buying Intel would be the death of PC Gaming.

[@Hugo-yp9dt]

We are living in a fantasy world believing the leaks that it would be on par with 4070😂

[@naegleriafowleri2230]

turbo mode is a gimmick is just overclocking which all other x870e boards can do as well

[@D8OfficialMusic]

I guess the Ryzen 4070 is a thing now

[@phillipcoetzer8186]

RADEON 4070 XTX X3D RDNA RYZEN 10 500 APU + AI NB. No memory controller

[@Sira_Kackavalj]

AMD: "Call the ambulance, but not for me" ahhh move

[@Anxiou5Panda]

If an APU can rival a newer midrange discrete graphics card then I'm all in.

[@froschfreak1699]

Imagine the 40 Core igpu M4 Max from Apple with a tdp of 120 Watts… the chip is impressive compared to a Laptop with dedicated GPU but far from being as efficient as the Apple chips are. It consumes at least 3-4 time the energy of a M1 Max or a M2 Ultra. I see the biggest potential in Apple Silicon in the next generations. There is so much room for improvement because of its efficiency.

[@vernonhampton6973]

I'll be all-in on doing some really sweet compact ITX builds if this APU is as good as they claim.

[@SalvatorePellitteri]

If they start using GDDR6 OR GDDR7 with there APU yes we are talking about a gpu with a cpu attached, maybe they can use HBM memory like apple mX cpus

[@nukedathlonman]

Will be interesting to see - I don't see how an APU could given memory bandwidth constraints (GDDR6X vs DDR5, then further constrain it to also feeding the CPU cores). Def interested in seeing this, so I'm going to get some popcorn for those reviews (because I'm not going to hop on any hype-trains until after the reviews hit). :-)

[@nukedathlonman]

Oh, laptop RTX 4070... I see now - so RTX 3070 performance or there about. Still Impressive, and that I can see happening though it all depends how much fighting for bandwitdth between the CPU cores and GPU cores I'm sure. I still want some popcorn. 🙂

[@danielhulan3058]

Hopefully they dont just use the amd max apu in like consoles. Hopefully they make it in mini pcs and handhelds. Oh a handheld with that in it... it would be amazing. Idk if theyd be able to cool it or even give it meaningful battery life.

[@sleepingvalley8340]

Handheld would not be possible nut console like mini Pcs yes now they are making a cut down Z2 12 CU still but efficiency cores and lower TDP at higher performance so we have that to look forward to for handhelds well that and USB5/TB5

[@vgamedude9811]

Z2 is coming but it probably won't be that much better than z1 (I saw rumors of around 6-10 percent)

[@CyrusGameWorlds]

the best news ever : Octal socket is coming to EPYC and Threadripper

[@Piotsze]

IF this gonna have the same performance while consuming only one third of 4070 mobile dGPU or even less - than sure, it will be worth to buy and use.

[@JeremyLeePotocki]

Right now this will not "destroy" the low to mid range GPU market at least not until they make desktop versions. Right now this is strictly a laptop/Mini PC focused APU, and no one will want to buy a desktop motherboard with soldered on RAM at a fixed amount. If they can make a desktop variant of this APU with the same CU count yet still using DIMM slots, and still have the same performance then I will say that the Low End/Mid Range GPU market will be on it's way to being just a footnote in PC history.

[@altaccount648]

What is userbenchmark gonna be if AMD buys Intel instead?

[@K.R.98]

An APU that trades blows with an Laptop RTX4070 is good, but it definitely doesn’t make desktop GPUs redundant. A laptop RTX4090 is equivalent to a desktop RTX4070, so a laptop RTX4070 is probably on the level of a desktop RTX3050. Midrange desktop gpus are waaay more powerful.

[@nimrodery]

More like a desktop RTX 4060.

[@K.R.98]

@@nimroderyare you sure? I know that a laptop 4090 is like a desktop 4070, so technically it’s two GPU-classes difference. From a laptop 4070 two classes beneath would be a 4050 but that doesn’t exist. A RTX3060 and a 4060 are more or less the same, so i thought I could compare it to a 3050 instead of the non-existent 4050

[@nimrodery]

@@K.R.98 Performance is 10 percent slower at 1080p but 2 to 4 percent faster at 1440p and 4K. Since laptops are usually higher than 1080p then it's about 4060 desktop performance. I could be wrong, it wasn't easy to find comparisons.

[@K.R.98]

@@nimrodery Thanks for looking it up ☺️

[@nimrodery]

@@K.R.98 I did it for me, but you're welcome.

[@ciprodriguez]

That mic filter setting is on 100%

[@Hugo-yp9dt]

Snapdragon can't buy intel😂

[@lucasljs1545]

How did Intel had so many employees with 95% of the work they do being 100% automatized?

[@pmcomputing2459]

APU's are the future of graphics

[@majortom7038]

I will temper my enthusiasm for the APU until I see independent testing and pricing. Questions that pop onto my mind are does it have discrete vram, if not how does sharing the ram work, will I need to bump up my system ram to 64 gigs. All that being said, 4070 performance without a dedicated GPU could really overall lower the cost (assuming its less than a GPU+cpu), power draw and heat of a gaming rig. We shall see …

[@arenzricodexd4409]

Cost wise they usually end up being more expensive. Just look past APU. those 5600G and 8700G end up being more expensive. Plus this time there won't be 9800G. AMD beefing up the GPU but the entire package also end up being so big it cannot fit into AM5. so the only way to get them is via laptop or those expensive mini pc. Bandwith still a big concern as well.

[@kusumayogi7956]

Merge amd and intel call it "amdintel"

[@channelvr1293]

Actually a cpu is a compressed version of loads of transistors crammed into silicone layers. So it's totally normal that cpu's and gpu's will one day melt into one single chip.

[@loganmedia4401]

We've had integrated for a long time already. The integrated GPU is always, and still is even with these new processors, severely limited compared to a separate card. Integrated ones have of course become better over the years, but they're always behind the discrete options.

[@akrita81]

Intel is too big to sellout, there are to many patents and contracts that any government will have to protect by saving intel. If AMD survived then intel will do the same, unless Nvidia will have join the game to the CPU market by acquiring intel. (just a thought).

[@arch1107]

that is why it w2ill be sold in parts, qulacomm wants fabs, amd will use patents, everybody happy nothing is too big, look at nokia, blackberry, all can happen.

[@Squirrel4Gir]

Notice a lot of comments say no to the monopoly. So the fact that they consider them buying is a horrible sign

[@mattparker9726]

7:29 This has been on he horizon for some time. I'm glad it's AMDs time to innovate. Wish Intel would get their shit together though. A Qualcomm buyout would be bad for national security.

[@donschiffer7400]

Qualcomm makes sense for Intel. AMD would definitely create a monopoly. I doubt they’d allow it.

[@RaúlAlejandroOropezaBatista]

Amazing claims with Strix Halo top, I hope it goes well, it would push the market a lot

[@darthpaulx]

I certainly hope Amd doesn't buy Intel. Then there's a cpu monopoly.

[@TotalMegaCool]

I think Intel is going to come out of this without being bought or sold for parts, but if it is I think there will be alot of interest from other players. OpenAI and Microsoft both want custom silicon and Intel can deliver that once its foundries are up and running. XAI/Tesla could be another possible buyer, elon seems to be scaling very quickly and buying Intel would turbo that initiative. Amazon, Meta, Apple, ... (Mag7) could all see the long game and having both custom silicon and fabs in-house will place them well when we have the AGI crunch/race.

[@mikeb3172]

Qualcomm is in worse trouble than Intel if ARM no longer allows them to have a license. If they merge with Intel, Intel will have ex-apple engineers, and x86 designs will trend toward 'ARM but not'.

[@jon-eg6be]

Alternative title: "New Ryzen 4070 IS A MONSTER"

[@james8449100]

It's a shame that won't put vram on the die. It's really sad that there is no real innovation in the hardware industry

[@William_Kyle-Yuki_Yuuki]

AMD and Intel merge = Team Purple

[@PFG888]

For me it depends on the price and temps.