*NEW* SNES HDMI Cable 100% Plug & Play - REVIEW w/ Gameplay

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MetalJesusRocks

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@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 5 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why doing an honest review w/ Pros & Cons...is me "PROMOTING" something? If that was the case, wouldn't I just talk about only the positive aspects? When a device is for sale, don't you want to know what to look out for before you purchase? #Annoyed #NotSponsored
@CyberComGaming
@CyberComGaming 5 жыл бұрын
keep rockin' man - much support!
@Fattydeposit
@Fattydeposit 5 жыл бұрын
Even a 'bad' review is promotion because it's still exposure. Did you miss the people in this comment section who have stated that they've explicitly ordered these cables because of this video? Your fairness to the product - being able to still recommend them as a budget option despite their abysmal colour reproduction, 16:9 video distortion and ridiculous level of additional lag (their most critical flaw IMO and the one entirely unmentioned in the video) leaves you open to accusations of shilling and / or quickly cranking out a video without actually properly testing gameplay.
@Recoverel
@Recoverel 5 жыл бұрын
@@Fattydeposit Exposure does not equal to promotion. I think Metal Jesus made a fair evaluation in this video. He definitely talked about the pros and cons. And yes, there are gamers who are mindful of their budget, and they would rather spend less and settle for less.
@aftereando
@aftereando 5 жыл бұрын
Just ignore those haters... but I really want to know.... Did you test this cable with the N64 or the Gamecube ? I was really curious about it and you didn't even mentioned it.
@videogameobsession
@videogameobsession 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just as long as you clearly state that you got the product for free when reviewing it, to cover your butt.
@MrMario2011
@MrMario2011 5 жыл бұрын
Disappointing release, I'll be passing on this like I did with the PS1/PS2 cable. Forcing a stretched aspect ratio will turn off many people, and that color inaccuracy is horrible. Not cool when it's causing issues with seeing basic points of gameplay, like a few of the examples shown in here. If Pound is aware of the issue they really should hold off on this cable and release it once this issue is fixed, not release it in the current state and possibly fix it in a later revision. Either way, thanks for the review on this! On another note - you can pull a sharper image natively from SNES hardware if you get your hands on a SNES Jr. and RGB mod it, in conjunction with a cable like this.
@DiZZiEntertainment
@DiZZiEntertainment 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair here I like the enhanced "REDS" to me it bought out details that I have never noticed before and also enhanced some features that look way better. I don't mind using my TV to change the aspect ratio which I'm sure is not a big deal for most people.
@MrMario2011
@MrMario2011 5 жыл бұрын
@@DiZZiEntertainment On the flip side it also makes darker games much harder to see. At the end of the day people play on original hardware for compatibility and accuracy. A messed up color palette and stretched aspect ratio is not what many users are after if they're playing on original hardware.
@DiZZiEntertainment
@DiZZiEntertainment 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrMario2011 So, you buy an upscaler (to 720p), and complain because it is 720p. The widescreen format (16:9 ratio) is part of the standard. I can understand about the color palette issue but majority of the complaints can be resolved from basically 99.9% of the consumers knowing how to operate their televisions.
@sourcedrop7624
@sourcedrop7624 5 жыл бұрын
Can't you change tint values in most tv's? Red over saturation solved.
@DiZZiEntertainment
@DiZZiEntertainment 5 жыл бұрын
@@sourcedrop7624 You sure can
@Eazy_Bruh
@Eazy_Bruh 5 жыл бұрын
Im so glad that you review these products you show off for us! I really enjoy your honesty and time you put into your videos man! It prolly took a while for you to get gameplay with every single different cable/option. Looks like such an awesome idea, 30$ really isnt bad. Although I'd rather have one for the N64.
@stevencolon1723
@stevencolon1723 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this is exactly what I need. My dad's been wanting an Snes for a while and he's not as picky about image quality as I am, and this will work for him. Thanks!
@angryapplecart
@angryapplecart 5 жыл бұрын
an honest review with pros and cons! much appreciated unbias content here, as usual!
@Cotivity
@Cotivity 5 жыл бұрын
I really dig your retro coverage and that you review ongoing efforts to keep the older systems relevant, in collectors collections.
@jeremylovesretro
@jeremylovesretro 5 жыл бұрын
I was on the edge of my seat excited for this review, but I don't care for the color/saturation issues discussed. I sure appreciate the helpful, honest review though!
@salvoembers3263
@salvoembers3263 5 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the revision release on this one. Pound can take a hike until then. Thanks MJR. You saved me $30 and you rock!
@Mystemo
@Mystemo 5 жыл бұрын
Does ANYONE actually prefer playing retro games stretched? Is filling out the entire screen really so important that it's worth making the game look significantly worse?
@nhh12345
@nhh12345 5 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people playing games stretched. I don't think they notice or understand the difference. For me, aspect ratio is the most important thing. It has to look the way it was intended. I think the reason it's not scaling to 4:3 is because it would take more logic and processing on the hdmi adapter itself. Luckily as MJR states, nearly all TVs have an option to switch between 16:9 and 4:3.
@josephavallone1072
@josephavallone1072 5 жыл бұрын
When i wanna play hd i usually play my snes or nes mini. I prefer most gaming on crts
@rikimiki12
@rikimiki12 5 жыл бұрын
years ago when not all tv stations had 16:9 ratio but all lcds were 16:9 i've seen many people keeping their tvs with the image stretched. i asked and some didn't understand the difference, others said "why keep the screen space not used on the sides?". so... stretched is just dumb
@PhillipCummingsUSA
@PhillipCummingsUSA 5 жыл бұрын
That like asking if people prefer fucking stretched out thots.
@demoh2o
@demoh2o 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly playing retro games stretched doesn't really bother me. For some reason having big black bars on both sides on my screen bothers me more lol. Once you get used to having a full screen, it looks weird going back to 4:3
@leburn98
@leburn98 5 жыл бұрын
The color inaccuracy is a deal breaker for me, although I could definitely see people who may not notice it or simply not care. It really comes down to the games in question. For example, I thought that the Super Mario World footage looked quite good but others look way too dark. For me, the stretched 16:9 out of the box is not an issue. I have a Sony Bravia 50", three ASUS 24" monitors and an old 720p LG that is pushing 12 years that all have an option to set the picture format to 4:3 or 16:9. To be honest, I have never found a HDTV that didn't have this option available (that's not to say they don't exist).
@ericeric4379
@ericeric4379 2 жыл бұрын
S video is best with purple monster cable
@JesusG-cm2jx
@JesusG-cm2jx 2 жыл бұрын
What if you mess with the colors on your tv ? You think that might fix it ?
@RetroGamePlayers
@RetroGamePlayers 5 жыл бұрын
I just use S-Video for my SNES, but I understand the appeal of HDMI for new TVs
@ericmeiring2512
@ericmeiring2512 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly as long as you dont go bigger then like 28-32inch 720p hdmi tv with comp to hdmi converter picture looks fine with less pixel stretching then a 50 inch 1080p or 4k. Havent tryed it but if you run 720p or 1080p signels through your xbox one s or x it upscales the picture to 4k those older games may look amazing On a big 4k doing it with your nintendo switxh gives your switch games anti-aliasing and improves vision distance some. Dont know how micro got the signel passing through the xbox but im sure its running through the cpu and makes the xbox at least a very bad ass scaler.
@Kalle72
@Kalle72 2 жыл бұрын
Ok
@kenmys
@kenmys 5 жыл бұрын
Not only is it saturated and reds are high, but it looks like it has a smoothing effect applied. With the Analogue you can see the pixels and corners perfectly. Everything with this cable seems to smooth out the edges, which purists will not like. If your a casual owner that just wants to connect an old SNES to a modern set, this is fine for the price I guess. Best way to play is an Analogue system and/or a SNES with the scart/upscaler solution, but both are in the hundreds of dollars.
@vincentferrari
@vincentferrari 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry; stretching to fill the screen by default is a fail. Period.
@jong2359
@jong2359 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a fail, you are in the minority. Most, if not all (STATISTICALLY), common consumers want their television to be filled with no black borders.
@TechWithSean
@TechWithSean 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. This is a hard pass 🤚
@vincentferrari
@vincentferrari 5 жыл бұрын
You do realize this is an adapter designed to play 20-30 year old games right? I highly doubt that the granny who wants to watch Murder She Wrote non-letterboxed is buying this.
@gerff01
@gerff01 5 жыл бұрын
So, you buy an upscaler (to 720p), and complain because it is 720p. The widescreen format (16:9 ratio) is part of the standard. The Ignorance is rampant on this shit.
@gerff01
@gerff01 5 жыл бұрын
@@CAPCOM784 What are you saying? Are you inferring that changing the visuals and format from what it was designed to view, somehow could make it look different than intended?
@Tayra_Reberta
@Tayra_Reberta 5 жыл бұрын
I do want to mention this to you, there were many low budget home owners that didn't have TV's with AV connectors and when the SNES first came out, the AV cables were sold separate and came with an RF Switch instead. So many of them used an RF Switch instead because AV CRTVs were a bit more expensive at the time of the SNES' release. I think later as the AV CRTVs went down in price is when Nintendo opt out the RF Switch and started selling the AV cables with them as the AV CRTVs were getting more popular.
@lestergoods
@lestergoods 5 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the old CRT for my retro games. Just love the old feel that it brings back.
@The-Fishkeeper
@The-Fishkeeper 5 жыл бұрын
Using a decent upscaler like the FrameMeister or OSSC on a modern TV looks just as good in my opinion. In fact if you are in the US and thus can't access RGB from your consoles via most CRT televisions, it actually looks a lot better than it ever could on an old consumer grade CRT.
@The-Fishkeeper
@The-Fishkeeper 5 жыл бұрын
@@subzero8679 how so?
@The-Fishkeeper
@The-Fishkeeper 5 жыл бұрын
@@subzero8679 Really? I've had mine for 2 years or so, use it pretty much every day and it's never given me any trouble. It just gives me amazing picture quality that rivals that of a PVM with minimal lag and great flexibility / customisability. It also has excellent compatibility with televisions unlike some of the other scalers on the market which simply line multiply and can produce an "of spec" image that some TV's simply aren't capable of understanding.
@chaot8290
@chaot8290 4 жыл бұрын
If you can have one it is good. But in my opinion having a flat, big TV that weighs less then 50kg is a hell of an advantage. I just can't put a (useab) 150kg TV that is like half a Meter or even more in depth in my room. And that it is barely 40"
@LonSeidman
@LonSeidman 5 жыл бұрын
Analogue Super NT is THE way for SNES enthusiasts to enjoy the games in HD. It's so awesome.
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 5 жыл бұрын
Truth.
@ootwii
@ootwii 5 жыл бұрын
Would u all give this a try or pass??.the super nt is very temptin...i have a retron 5 would u just stick with that??.
@WhiteboyUltima
@WhiteboyUltima 5 жыл бұрын
@@ootwii The Retron 5 is a toy compared to Analogue's products.
@ootwii
@ootwii 5 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteboyUltima ive heard many great things about analogues products..i luv too try both of them..would u try this product if u was.me??.
@DouggieDaDucker
@DouggieDaDucker 5 жыл бұрын
I want to get the Super Famicom one if they under 200 bucks thou because I hate how people are charging around half a grand for one.....
@Dzeath1
@Dzeath1 5 жыл бұрын
Respect for honesty. Very little left on youtube that are not sellouts
@RetroGamingDev
@RetroGamingDev 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks for doing it. It seems like people could probably overcome most of the issues with some tweaks to TV picture settings, which would make this a very affordable option (IMO).
@tavius88
@tavius88 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking!
@agamelegend9441
@agamelegend9441 2 жыл бұрын
Yea a lot of new smart TVs or even just basic HDTVs can just lower the saturation of the input or just change certain colors entirely.
@andrewclegg9501
@andrewclegg9501 5 жыл бұрын
Checked Lamborghini on my US SNES through a calibrated Sony BVM using RGB. Red levels are higher than your composite, a little higher than the Analogue, but nothing as saturated like the Pound. The car is more red, but the background still retains the yellow.
@GameTacoFTW
@GameTacoFTW 5 жыл бұрын
I think $30 is a little too high for a cable that has no 4:3 support and inaccurate colors.
@DoctorPoo
@DoctorPoo 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it blows my mind when people review these as appealing to the "More Budget-Minded Gamer" as if throwing away $30 is budget-minded.
@HenriqueSilva-tx5wc
@HenriqueSilva-tx5wc 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Lots of money for the quality offered.
@oscarsalaiz7840
@oscarsalaiz7840 5 жыл бұрын
Well, relative to other options like analogue nt, framemeister upscaler or ossc, this is actually a much cheaper option by far. But it’s just that. An option.
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin 5 жыл бұрын
LOL good lord, you guys really have no clue what this sort of stuff normally costs do you? $30 is freaking bargain basement cheap for anything involving RGB upscaling. I honestly don't know how one can expect any better from something this cheap.
@s60416
@s60416 4 жыл бұрын
the output colors of pound cable actually look like the colors on the Sharp CRT i'm using right now. tv has different colors back then,my grandma's tv used to look green-ish...maybe the designers of this cable used the same Sharp Tv im using now as color reference?but not having 4:3 support is a bummer tho
@43bigsteve
@43bigsteve 5 жыл бұрын
I still have my SNES hooked up to a CRT and was looking at getting the HD retrovision component cables for it. But I was waiting to see if pound released an HDMI to hook it up to a newer tv. After seeing this, I think I’m gonna stick with the CRT for now and pick up the retrovision cables
@43bigsteve
@43bigsteve 5 жыл бұрын
CastleMania Games and I know just where to order them!
@TroutButter
@TroutButter 5 жыл бұрын
Just like the PS2/1 cable from Pound, they screwed the pooch on this one. I have the Xbox (I think the revised one) and Dreamcast cables and they are actually really good. No stretching at all, extremely good video quality and they work without plugging in USB power.
@danielbrydon3869
@danielbrydon3869 5 жыл бұрын
I actually found the ps1/2 cable to be excellent
@tacoengineer6660
@tacoengineer6660 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielbrydon3869 The PS1/2 one works great on PS1 but not not as great on PS2
@maverickhuntermeta4954
@maverickhuntermeta4954 5 жыл бұрын
Why no USB plug-in, because the Dreamcast and Xbox don't have power bricks built-in their respective power cables.
@TheShadowBrigade
@TheShadowBrigade 5 жыл бұрын
The Dreamcast one is awful too. Screen shifting and weird ass screen tearing... no thanks.
@wildstray92
@wildstray92 5 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely shocked you didn't cover latency at all with this review. That information is vital for a device like this.
@Pwntyounooblol
@Pwntyounooblol 5 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for. Just look at the game text when MJR compares composite, analog NT & pound cable, the analog NT blows them out of the water. Stick with professionally made products such as the analog NT, HDMI console mods or high quality RGB cables with a CRT.
@M.C.D.Technologies
@M.C.D.Technologies 5 жыл бұрын
When you play these old games on a newer TV make sure to up the sharpness that should help with the blurry text. They need to fix the reds in this HDMI kit and I also agree they should not be out putting in 16:9 ratio.
@micronian
@micronian 5 жыл бұрын
Cables like these are perfect for those retro gamers that don't care about video and audio quality, lag, correct colors, artifacts, etc. and there are surprisingly a whole bunch of them. I know a few that for the sake of simplicity, plug all their systems including PS3 and XBOX 360 to a composite switch box plugged to their LCD HDTV, and they are happy playing it just like that. Once I even felt so bad for this one friend of mine, that I gave him a 20 inch Sony Trinitron in excellent shape, it had composite and component inputs, I calibrated the convergence on it, told him he should at least play his old systems the way they were meant to be played on a CRT. A few weeks later I go visit him, and notice his NES looks like crap on the CRT, I look behind and yup he used the RF cable.
@cencil6497
@cencil6497 5 жыл бұрын
Some people really just don't care about the difference. Weird I know.
@sonofriggnarok9320
@sonofriggnarok9320 5 жыл бұрын
People don't care about the issue because the NES games ect. have poor graphics compared to games now, they don't see the difference nor do they care.
@OfficialiGamer
@OfficialiGamer 5 жыл бұрын
for those across the pond using PAL, Pound did annouce on their Facebook page that it works just fine on PAL SNES consoles
@RetroSho
@RetroSho 5 жыл бұрын
Three problems with these cables: 1) 16:9 out of the box is an awful decision. Even more so if there’s no 4:3 option. 2) You shouldn’t have to change the color & saturation settings on your television/capture card to accommodate for a new cable. 3) Due to #2 the components used in the cable should be suspect to be of very cheap quality. This is pretty on par for a Chinese cash grab towards the retro community, and I would advise people spend a few more bucks for a better solution (HD Retrovision Cables, OSSC, Super NT) if they are looking to spend on their SNES retro set up.
@diegocrusius
@diegocrusius 5 жыл бұрын
but the Super NT is a whole new console, no?
@magicbusgb
@magicbusgb 3 жыл бұрын
I bought it nonetheless and i gotta say i'm impressed, video quality is pretty great and color saturation is not so severe. The output is 4:3, even when the TV is set to 16:9, i was definitely not expecting that
@PaperBanjo64
@PaperBanjo64 2 жыл бұрын
They must have secretly released an updated version that displays in 4:3, I had the version that displayed widescreen and had to set the TV to 4:3.
@UncleSilverGaming
@UncleSilverGaming 5 жыл бұрын
"Hey, Emperor Palpatine, what did you think of the Pound HDMI cable?" "Something, something, dark side."
@YOGO_MUSHI
@YOGO_MUSHI 5 жыл бұрын
What I’ve learned from this video is the super NT analogue is amazing.
@itchyisvegeta
@itchyisvegeta 5 жыл бұрын
If you are wanting quality on a budget, better to get the Retrotink. However, just like the Retrotink, if this cable existed a few years ago when I started collecting retro games, I probably would have went with it and been happy with it, and just adjusted my TV settings. Now that I am running Framemeister, retrotink, and HD Retrovision cables, no way I would go with this.
@Am0r_y_PeZ
@Am0r_y_PeZ 5 жыл бұрын
Im still playng my famicom snes ps2 and wii on a trinitron crt tv , but is always great to see this videos all the choices to all kind of players
@randomreviews9016
@randomreviews9016 5 жыл бұрын
The analog looks Amazing !
@deckofcards87
@deckofcards87 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, there's no comparison to the crt image.
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 5 жыл бұрын
The Analogue Super NT is worth every penny. Amazing device!
@randomreviews9016
@randomreviews9016 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrmii6596 indeed... Autocorrect failed me.
@dooganchode9447
@dooganchode9447 5 жыл бұрын
@@mrmii6596 insert spongebob voice meme
@Seijuro2007
@Seijuro2007 5 жыл бұрын
I like how pound does the job. I´ll buy it for sure and you can control the color saturation and bright on your tv.
@Dartht33bagger
@Dartht33bagger 5 жыл бұрын
Even the first game had the saturation problem. I immediately noticed that her red ninja suit was darker than the original footage.
@muchthink535
@muchthink535 5 жыл бұрын
I saw LRG announce this and hoped you had a review up - and my prayers were answered! I like the idea here but I already have a Retron for when I need to record SNES footage and I personally don’t mind the muddiness of old fashioned composite. Maybe a good compromise for someone on a budget though!
@GadgetUK164
@GadgetUK164 5 жыл бұрын
It's worth £1 (one Pound) =D
@jaythepirateroberts6012
@jaythepirateroberts6012 5 жыл бұрын
I'll pound anything once.
@6581punk
@6581punk 5 жыл бұрын
They forgot to print "land" after their name.
@Geth7777
@Geth7777 5 жыл бұрын
@@6581punk I can already see Ashens trying this out...
@6581punk
@6581punk 5 жыл бұрын
@@Geth7777 so long as he can fit a TV on that sofa. Probably end up setting fire to it. Bigclive could take it apart and tell us why it sucks
@ganjam0n
@ganjam0n 5 жыл бұрын
lol :)
@NewGabeOrder
@NewGabeOrder 5 жыл бұрын
Well, SNES does not seem to have widescreen games. The PlayStation does have widescreen games, like Touge Max, Bloody Roar II, Wip3out and PAC-MAN WORLD, so that’s why the Pound HDMI adapter for the latter stretches the screen in the 720p space.
@skins4thewin
@skins4thewin 5 жыл бұрын
I have heard that they have worked on updated firmware for these cables, hopefully they have fixed some of these issues, specially the color inaccuracy and lag. And a 4:3 aspect ratio sure would be nice. Doubt there's a ton they can do though with the crappy Chinese chip set they are using.
@michaelbarnett4416
@michaelbarnett4416 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the side by side comparisons. It allows the consumer to see it for themselves. Personally, I dont think it is a bad idea to get and seems as a fair price.
@nevarezfamilygaming
@nevarezfamilygaming 5 жыл бұрын
Happy New Years metal Jesus Crew!
@datboijr01
@datboijr01 5 жыл бұрын
Being born in 87’ the SNES is my childhood console. We didn’t have much money and the games were very expensive so one way we played different games was by sharing and borrowing games from neighbors and vice versa. I would go over to my friends homes and play for hours and then we would take a break and went outside to play. You don’t see this happen anymore. Man how the years went by...
@videogameobsession
@videogameobsession 5 жыл бұрын
I wish you would do comparisons between Svideo and HDMI. I was lucky enough to have an Svideo cable for my SNES back in August 1991 and a nice Svideo compatible CRT. The Svideo (Y/C) cable gets rid of the color bleeding and crosshatch effect, even on a modern HDTV.
@alisillo3
@alisillo3 5 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE THE BEST GAME KZbinR CONGRATS FROM COLOMBIA
@FatherAxeKeeper
@FatherAxeKeeper 5 жыл бұрын
Why would it be 16x9 by design? why would anyone want pancaked graphics in their games? “Let’s pay money for an hdmi upscaller to make the games look better, then stretch out the games to make them look worse again!!” Lol
@corsegerspwnd
@corsegerspwnd 5 жыл бұрын
Cause its a fucking cashgrab m8
@TheatreStyle
@TheatreStyle 5 жыл бұрын
Oh believe me, such people exist. They don't care how stretched the image becomes, they can't stand seeing empty space on either side of their picture.
@FatherAxeKeeper
@FatherAxeKeeper 5 жыл бұрын
TheatreStyle which makes no sense to me, seems screwing up the graphics and sprites would be worse than some black space.
@FatherAxeKeeper
@FatherAxeKeeper 5 жыл бұрын
DrLite because that’s how the games were originally intended to look. They looked blurry due to the limitations of televisions at the time, not because they games were designed to look bad. These new hookups allow you to see the games the way they were designed.
@kgisabeast
@kgisabeast 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you just adjust on your tv to display the picture in 4:3? That’s what I do when I play n64 on my hdtv
@tavius88
@tavius88 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking of getting a SNES and this for my wife for Christmas
@ChrisLerouxDesign
@ChrisLerouxDesign 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why all of these hardware manufacturers stretch the image by default. Sure you want to maximize that real estate on the screen, but not at the cost of stretched pixels. At least give people the option (using a workaround on a TV shouldn't count). Also, manually playing around with the RGB values is a royal pain if you're using your TV for anything other than the console. I guess if your TV allows you to save color profiles it's alright, but still really annoying. For $30 I think the price is alright, but I'd personally wait for a second revision where the key issues are fixed.
@The90sGamingGuy
@The90sGamingGuy 5 жыл бұрын
I might buy this pound HDMI device for my SNES. The Analogue NT is an amazing SNES clone like system. Great video!
@nicolasrolke3538
@nicolasrolke3538 5 жыл бұрын
How is the lag?
@breachless5320
@breachless5320 5 жыл бұрын
THIS. This is way more important than saturated colors to me. I want to know if this is going to be a viable alternative to my mammoth CRT tv in terms of input lag.
@mtunayucer
@mtunayucer 5 жыл бұрын
John Keefe in addition to converter's lag, lcd displays also have a huge lag compared to crt's.
@Fattydeposit
@Fattydeposit 5 жыл бұрын
These Pound cables use a scaler chip which adds about 6-7 frames of input lag. They're absolutely terrible.
@ItzElixsis
@ItzElixsis 5 жыл бұрын
@@Fattydeposit really? Dang.. then it's not worth it.
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 5 жыл бұрын
Most upscalers will add lag unfortunately and this one does a bit, but I didn't find games unplayable with the 30 or so games I tried. It's also important to put your HDTV in GAME MODE so it doesn't add unnecessary video processing on top of that.
@orbitori1572
@orbitori1572 5 жыл бұрын
Framemeister and RGB Cables are still one of the best solutions for many consoles. By myself i have an Automaticlly RGB Scart Switcher (8-Port) hooked up to the Framemeister and all consoles have RGB Cables, its not cheap but its worth it. But for 30$ its not that bad and u can adjust your tv too look it better.
@Neffets
@Neffets 5 жыл бұрын
A little? You're being too kind, MJR :) This looks over saturated to me. I would also have concerns about input lag. I know your tv has influence on this, but I can only imagine the Pound making it worse. For $30 this would be okay for someone who doesn't know better.
@Duke_Togo_G13
@Duke_Togo_G13 5 жыл бұрын
I think the contrast and saturation of the pound really takes away details in the background. Analogue has the best balance.
@The-Fishkeeper
@The-Fishkeeper 5 жыл бұрын
Pound cables really aren't very good, they're okay for people just want something cheap and convenient but there are VASTLY superior options out there for using retro consoles with modern televisions. God knows why they intentionally stretch 4:3 content to 16:9, looks bloody terrible and there are some TV's out there that do not feature the option to manually change the aspect ratio back. If they insist on stretching it by default, they should at least build in a switch that allows you to change back to the original aspect ratio.
@d3s1r3dpk
@d3s1r3dpk 4 жыл бұрын
what are some good ones. Ive been wanting to connect my Super Nintendo to my Samsung Smart tv for the longest. im about to just buy a older tv at this point
@Orange-Jumpsuit-Time
@Orange-Jumpsuit-Time Жыл бұрын
If you don't like the colors or the lighting, contrast, etc. you can always customize those settings and save them on most modern TV's and call up the saved settings when gaming. DUH!
@JRRSantore
@JRRSantore 5 жыл бұрын
Pound seems to be consistently Meh
@Bwelrick
@Bwelrick 5 жыл бұрын
The pound does look the worst of the three. Just get a Sony Trinitron CRT
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 5 жыл бұрын
I got good results from their original XBOX and Dreamcast cables...but this one bugs me with the red saturation...
@viperusmaximus3786
@viperusmaximus3786 5 жыл бұрын
@@MetalJesusRocksI love your voice Jason you should really do stop smoking hypnosis or something. LOL
@rivlezz
@rivlezz 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely, it'll get you a better picture but usually at a cost of a few things.
@TiberiusWallace
@TiberiusWallace 5 жыл бұрын
@@Bwelrick yay for composite, right?
@jochenwuerfel
@jochenwuerfel 5 жыл бұрын
Me again, got my cable today and it's AMAZING. Couldn't resist playing Rock 'n Roll Racing to see what it will look like. One question because you were at the Hyperkin booth at E3: They also have released a SNES/N64/GC HDMI cable. Would be awesome if you could test the new cable, with the "old" one from Pound and maybe results from your upscalers. Rock on!
@RetroTekGuyAU
@RetroTekGuyAU 5 жыл бұрын
Spending 10 seconds in your TV's picture settings can correct everything the Pound does wrong. So in my book it's a win. Will consider a purchase.
@GreenPintoMedia
@GreenPintoMedia 5 жыл бұрын
DrQuinMagna aspect ratio aside, this thing is noisy and soft as hell. It's absolutely not worth getting when you could save up and get a proper upscaler like the Framemeister or line doubler like the OSSC.
@RetroTekGuyAU
@RetroTekGuyAU 5 жыл бұрын
@@GreenPintoMedia Noise isn't really an issue for my setup. I have a custom built cabinet that cancels out nearly all my systems noises. Mainly built it for an old AMD phenom system I kept inside it. But I look mainly for picture quality. 30 bucks ain't bad in my situation.
@mus247365
@mus247365 5 жыл бұрын
@@GreenPintoMedia And how much do the Framemeister or OSSC cost?
@ReznorAddict
@ReznorAddict 5 жыл бұрын
DrQuinMagna he means video noise, not audio noise from the cable.
@deckofcards87
@deckofcards87 5 жыл бұрын
@@mus247365 Way too much, about half a grand for the XRGb Framemeister.
@thcollegestudent
@thcollegestudent 5 жыл бұрын
Great to see another vid from you!
@_BitJager_
@_BitJager_ 5 жыл бұрын
The saturation could be fixed when you're HD TV has the decent tools to configure the saturation.
@mombepombe
@mombepombe 5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, what setting does he have the HDTV on? There are so many options to adjust the video/saturation/display settings...
@Fattydeposit
@Fattydeposit 5 жыл бұрын
Filip - 'Fixing' the TV settings for this cable - which would break the settings for everything else - is not a solution.
@_BitJager_
@_BitJager_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@Fattydeposit A decent TV lets you save multiple presets. I admit it's not the best solution but it is a solution.
@Fattydeposit
@Fattydeposit 5 жыл бұрын
@@_BitJager_ A decent cable doesn't force you to upgrade your TV. In any case the most important issue - the huge amount of input lag this cable adds - isn't mentioned at all. It's the *worst* SNES cable on the market LOL
@_BitJager_
@_BitJager_ 5 жыл бұрын
@@Fattydeposit - I didn't know anything about the input lag. Input lag is a huge no no. So I'm with you with that!
@sombrashibe
@sombrashibe 5 жыл бұрын
My CRT TV from 1993 doesn't have any AV/composite connections, so my SNES and Genesis/MD are left to be used with RF. I've been considering cables like these to play them on my normal TV, but just haven't been satisfied with the visuals. Plus, I have to be careful because of photosensitivity due to migraines. The saturation can be a factor, if the TV settings can't correct it. Being a gamer with migraines sucks.
@codex_ata2493
@codex_ata2493 5 жыл бұрын
Man, for reviews like this.. really need to show what the comparison is between an ideal solution vs this budget solution. No one uses composite with Framemeister, so that misleading advertising by Pound should be ignored. Notice Pound doesn't mention the OSSC, which is faster than the Framemeister at less than half the price. Compare RGB+Framemeister or SCART/Component+OSSC for a *REAL* comparison. The HD Retrovision component cables are around $63, and paired with the OSSC, it's at pure RGB-level of quality with almost zero lag introduced, unlike the Framemeister or Pound. The OSSC can be built for around $100, or buy it for around $150-175 if you can't solder, but that's a one-time cost to support all retro consoles from one device, unlike a cable. I use the OSSC for over a dozen consoles, so that's around $8-10 per console plus the $63 for HD Retrovision. $73 to have the SNES look *perfect* with nearly zero additional lag compared to $30 for cables that introduce a lot of lag, have over-saturated colors, and make me want to put on glasses to try to sharpen how blurry the game looks.. no thanks.. just use a $12 composite-to-HDMI converter if you just want to play on modern TVs on a budget.
@Fattydeposit
@Fattydeposit 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, all truth. Pound's dodgy marketing pretty much confirms that they shouldn't be embraced by the community. Their shamelessly cynical comparison pics regarding this product are reprehensible.
@jochenwuerfel
@jochenwuerfel 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Metal Jesus, thanks to your video I went out and bought the cable. I'm super stoked about how my games are gonna look like. Last time I hooked up my good ol' SNES it was with RF (pretty common back then) but boy.. that's no fun at all. Even though some things might be a bit too saturated, I can easily configure my TV to match. Heavy greetings from Germany!
@transfiguration8865
@transfiguration8865 5 жыл бұрын
So basically, if your tv still has composite hookups, just use those. lol
@LotoTheHero
@LotoTheHero 5 жыл бұрын
If you're using an HD TV, that isn't really optimal. Most HD TVs handle compostie very poorly. It looks ugly and you get weird ghosting.
@WednesdayMan
@WednesdayMan 5 жыл бұрын
not to mention 240p, many HD TVs treat 240p as a 480i signal then try to de-interlace it which negatively affects the signal.
@ChiefDad117
@ChiefDad117 5 жыл бұрын
I never play my older games stretched. I play my old games from NES-PS2 era on my 1080p television and I put the screen at the smallest ratio and honestly even with composite video my games look fantastic.
@daniellado2523
@daniellado2523 5 жыл бұрын
Well at least the games that show off mode 7 graphics will stand out even more.
@diegocrusius
@diegocrusius 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for doing this. It really helps. I want to get an upscaler in the future but since I live in south america I'll just have the reviews to guide me.
@PixelGameSquad
@PixelGameSquad 5 жыл бұрын
I'm so easy to please when it comes to these HDMI cable solutions. Odd they chose to default as full screen but still overall seems pretty cool 🤘Also.... I'm hiding in your closet
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 5 жыл бұрын
I'm making you a sandwich.
@tavius88
@tavius88 2 жыл бұрын
That saturation can be fixed with tv settings, not a big deal, this looks like a good option
@Smartphonekanalen
@Smartphonekanalen 5 жыл бұрын
Whould be possible to fix the red issue with a resistor on red signal on RGB. Or just change the levels on tv.
@stimpsonjcat26
@stimpsonjcat26 5 жыл бұрын
As long as the converter didn't crush the colors
@topchief1
@topchief1 5 жыл бұрын
Smartest thing I did was get a bunch of rgb scart cables for most of my Retro systems. I have a rgb switch box from Amazon and i have my snes, genesis and neo geo aes connected to a trinitron with the switch box allowing me to swap between them.
@KMACKTIME
@KMACKTIME 5 жыл бұрын
Will it also work on gc and n64?
@robbyandrews223
@robbyandrews223 5 жыл бұрын
@CastleMania Games Why not?
@Kirii86
@Kirii86 5 жыл бұрын
@@robbyandrews223 I would imagine its because the cable uses the SNES RGB signal. Unmodded N64 and NTSC Gamecubes dont work with that
@pokepress
@pokepress 5 жыл бұрын
What about an RGB-modded N64?
@phazonlord0098
@phazonlord0098 5 жыл бұрын
They won't work with NTSC N64 and GC because those don't output RGB, but they might work with the PAL GC because it does have native RGB support, but them the cable might not support 480i output
@TylerSteven9
@TylerSteven9 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering this too, I don't see why it wouldn't work on an RGB-modded N64.
@videogameobsession
@videogameobsession 5 жыл бұрын
8:34 Run Saber has a nice mauve colored wig.. Good job Pound!
@EposVox
@EposVox 5 жыл бұрын
That's a big nope!
@wibzard
@wibzard 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@fluffisaurus7090
@fluffisaurus7090 3 жыл бұрын
@@wibzard It’s a terrible cable. Get something like the Rad 2x instead, it handles the signal properly.
@wibzard
@wibzard 3 жыл бұрын
@@fluffisaurus7090 Oh, I have an NES and I am trying to look for a cable, I’ll check out the RAD 2x
@joncleary8896
@joncleary8896 5 жыл бұрын
I have a few of these pound cables myself and the main thing I have noticed is that they are pretty inconsistent when it comes to image quality. They are great solutions for the vintage gamer with a modest budget but there are better solutions to be found.
@djl3485
@djl3485 5 жыл бұрын
Analogue Super NT is still the best way to play.
@djl3485
@djl3485 5 жыл бұрын
​@@subzero8679 Yea.....no.
@GatchetCore
@GatchetCore 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Metal Jesus It would be interesting to see a Wii HDMI adapter video in the future! appreciate your work man.
@RedArremer
@RedArremer 5 жыл бұрын
The pound cable looks terrible. Wrong colors, 16:3 default stretch, and I've seen more detailed screencaps from other console Pound cables showing they don't even output clean pixel edges. It's shoddily made garbage. Would not recommend them to anyone as it would be sociopathic to do so.
@Fattydeposit
@Fattydeposit 5 жыл бұрын
"But it's up to YOU to decide" "It's only $30 whereas a Super NT is SIX TIMES more expensive" "You're a troll and jealous" "Make sure to turn on GAME MODE to reduce input lag" "Just turn the saturation down and force 4:3 on your TV" "You sound like a HATER" I think that's the standard responses all covered.
@ElricSowrd
@ElricSowrd 5 жыл бұрын
7:41- We both said "Oh my gosh" at the same time. LOL 😄 I agree: the Pound HDMI Version does look darker. Like bleemcast! Metal Gear Solid dark!
@mattwasx
@mattwasx 5 жыл бұрын
$30 for that is more than fair. Im prolly going to get one eventually.
@Thunderbolt5827
@Thunderbolt5827 5 жыл бұрын
Just get a SNES classic and mod it.
@garybennett1859
@garybennett1859 5 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderbolt5827 This product is for people who want to play original carts, not roms.
@mattwasx
@mattwasx 5 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderbolt5827 I already have an original and games. Even bought it after the snes classic was out, just wanted the original, $ didnt really matter much but I'm not paying $100+ for some adapter.
@the1ucidone
@the1ucidone 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's so cheap and does nearly the same job as an RGB or HDMI modded console. I'd just ignore the haters and do what is best for your budget brother. This Pound Technology is a fantastic solution for cheap fucks like us lol.
@Fattydeposit
@Fattydeposit 5 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderbolt5827 Buying a SNES Classic is actually a great idea for someone considering burning $30 on probably the worst SNES cable on the market. It's, what $60-70 but you get pretty accurate low lag SNES emulation at the same 720p resolution and the hacking software is versatile, easy to use and mature. I'm about real hardware in most cases but the SNES Classic will clearly give you a more authentic solution than the insultingly bad experience the Pound cable provides.
@ian1753
@ian1753 5 жыл бұрын
For myself playing on my Sony Trinitron CRT with S-Video cables in correct 4:3 aspect ratio is all I ever need. I have a nice Nes/Snes Hdmi Raspberry PI and still find myself going back to playing on on the Trinitron.
@robmoye7373
@robmoye7373 5 жыл бұрын
Wow alot of people in the comments actually prefer circular objects on the screen being oval. And the characters short and stubby. Whatever.
@BenderBendingRodriguezOFFICIAL
@BenderBendingRodriguezOFFICIAL 5 жыл бұрын
The stretch isn't that bad. You're over exaggerating.
@RacerX-
@RacerX- 5 жыл бұрын
"How much does it matter?" That the colors are wrong? It matters a lot. I like the Pound products. The PS1/PS2 and the Dreamcast ones are awesome for the money. But this one for the SNES needs to be tweaked a bit as correct colors are important to me. Also the aspect ratio needs to be either selectable or 4:3 as the games were intended to play.
@Jimble
@Jimble 4 жыл бұрын
Playing 4:3 games in 16:9 is like watching 4:3 movies in 16:9. It's garbage.
@powerwolf-vw8st
@powerwolf-vw8st 5 жыл бұрын
Very fond memories of lamborghini american challenge i played it alot when i still had a snes , i remember it being one of the harder games to beat that i owned love the soundtrack too.
@m2pt5
@m2pt5 5 жыл бұрын
16:9 with no internal option to switch to 4:3? Hard pass.
@jochenwuerfel
@jochenwuerfel 5 жыл бұрын
Hard pass? Nah, my TV can overwrite any AR I want.
@embermonkey
@embermonkey 5 жыл бұрын
thank you for the detailed comparisons and honest review
@BALrider1Steve
@BALrider1Steve 4 жыл бұрын
Somewhat noticeable you nuts it’s big difference I’ve played this as a kid no that’s a no go
@TheWoody0007
@TheWoody0007 5 жыл бұрын
being a CS player and playing on 100% Digital Vibrance, I love saturation in my games, it brings out colors so well, I do not mind it at all
@HunterPBrown
@HunterPBrown 5 жыл бұрын
And... Purchased. I got an rgb modded N64, I'm interested in seeing if it'll work on that as well
@chriskater
@chriskater 5 жыл бұрын
This thing of making old consoles look good in newer TVs is like kicking a dead horse. No use man. I haven't seen one single device or upscaler that really works well. Old consoles like the SNES, Sega and even the Neo Geo were designed to work with old tube, CRT TVs. That's it. The best shapes and colors are ONLY produced in those TVs because the whole programming of the game was made for such screen conditions. So to each their own. I tried the Pound cable for the original Xbox after watching one of your videos because I could see a real improvement and when I tried that I was really surprised as to how well the image quality improved. But that is because the original Xbox is a very powerful machine that produces an excellent image, even when it is connected via composite. So I don't think there is a magic device that will make the console look better because that does not depend much on the cable but rather on what the console is capable of doing. And to prove this, I also went for the HDMI cable for the PS2, and the end result is nowhere near to the Xbox image. Xbox is vastly superior to PS2. Period. So I resolved this I think a year ago, for good. I got a Raspberry Pi as most gamers have. The Retropie OS includes a simulation of scanlines which works incredibly good. I play on a 50" tv and my SNES and Sega games look absolutely beautiful. Like playing on a 50" CRT. I do own all the old consoles with cartridges and I happen to have a CRT, only very small (20") in case I want to "try" the real, authentic retro thing. So if no one wants to try this emulation/scanline solution because they think it's lame and it's not "the real thing" but rather emulation, fine. Try and look for an old CRT. You will never get a quality picture with any cable. Nothing beats the CRT.
@Faxtron
@Faxtron 5 жыл бұрын
Man you need to check "my life in gaming" channel here on youtube.
@johnc19891
@johnc19891 5 жыл бұрын
I can name a good upscaler... The nintendo wii (the original that works with gamecube games). Gamecube games look fantastic on this through component video, even on my 4k TV.
@Spielewelten
@Spielewelten 5 жыл бұрын
So why should I buy this if I can play all this games on my SNES Mini on my HDTV because it has a HDMI output?
@jonathanlisowski5618
@jonathanlisowski5618 5 жыл бұрын
This cable is a disappointment but some people want to play their original carts on original hardware on their modern day TV. If a cable is made that gets the picture right many people will be really happy to have another option.
@Jason-vx6vg
@Jason-vx6vg 5 жыл бұрын
I'm hesitant as well, I haven't looked at every smart TV on the market but my LG 4k accepts RCA cables, seems a bit pointless unless you are into stretched out screens and don't know how to do it yourself through the settings. Now if someone magic-ed an F connector to HDMI I'd be all over that, because it means both my Coleco and Atari 7800 can be hooked up to a HDMI splitter.
@darbizzlebacon
@darbizzlebacon 5 жыл бұрын
Space Megaforce is one of my favorite shooters on the system. I didn't even know about it until I found another channel, SNES Drunk. That guy loves Space Megaforce, and for good reason. I have no interest in this peripheral, but thanks MJR, for taking the time to make this video, and do the side by side comparisons. I know that was probably not very easy to do.
@OddOttAllen
@OddOttAllen 5 жыл бұрын
another pound cable? ugh...
@RobertPendell
@RobertPendell 5 жыл бұрын
You can see the issue with the reds in their example screenshots on their website although it isn't as obvious due to the fact that those shots don't actually have much red/orange in them in general however if you compare those sections alone they do look more saturated than they should while the rest of the image looks fine.
@mjaerkens
@mjaerkens 5 жыл бұрын
MJR this channel is going downhill. 1. Doesn't call out obvious crap anymore, I suspect because you are afraid they still stop sending stuff. 2. Videos are always exactly 10min and few seconds for ad revenue while most is filler talk. 3. "Testing" a product should be more than listing the few functions something has. Tell me if I should continue.
@codak29
@codak29 5 жыл бұрын
SNES has the same output plug that N64 and Gamecube had. I wish he tested what the Pound cable did in those consoles as well. Also, whenever someone is testing an upscaler I expect an analysis of any lag it may or may not introduce.
@mus247365
@mus247365 5 жыл бұрын
Nah please don't continue
@HelloSwiftful
@HelloSwiftful 5 жыл бұрын
+Shifto Go away son. You're not important.
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me what I didn't call out in this video? I think my review said all the pros and cons and was fair for the $30 price point. Notice I included the Analogue Super NT for those that want perfection. As for video length...this video was originally longer with 30 games tested, but that seemed like overkill...so I cut it down.
@Akirapoet
@Akirapoet 5 жыл бұрын
@@MetalJesusRocks Don't feed the troll and keep being awesome, man!
@ivansotelo4622
@ivansotelo4622 5 жыл бұрын
here at my garage, just bought this new 2:57 here!
@qwertNickqwert
@qwertNickqwert 5 жыл бұрын
Man, a lot of people are hard working to get best pictures from old consoles. MLiG, retroRGB, talented engineers and others. OSSC, good component cables, framemeister, FPGA replica of real consoles, good HDMI solutions, not this crap converter. Man, please, stop advertising this crap and tell people about good products! Even AVGN boost his capture quality. Jesus, give us quality!
@MetalJesusRocks
@MetalJesusRocks 5 жыл бұрын
Not advertising. I'm not encouraging anybody to go buy these, but instead understand they exist and these are the pros & cons. Ya know. Like a regular ol' review.
@mtunayucer
@mtunayucer 5 жыл бұрын
Николай Сопов not everybody has hundreds of money to huy framemeisters and shit man. Other than the highly saturated picture and stretched video, This thing gets the job done for %90 of people.
@deckofcards87
@deckofcards87 5 жыл бұрын
I sold my Framemeister, that thing is absurdly expensive and messy for the very simple task it performs. And it still adds input lag.
@thedaily30
@thedaily30 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh... Hinkoman Corncob acting straight gangster in the comment section. “Yo Metal Jesus, how bout some videos for your billionaire militia?!?” Easy, comrade. Not everyone wants to break the bank to get better picture quality.
@tonylenzi166
@tonylenzi166 5 жыл бұрын
No, this is y mj is the man, he always shows all the cool or uncool products out there in the gaming world, he always gives an honest review, its not like hes on here saying omg u guys gotta get this, not everyine has the money to get expensive things like framemiesters or whatever just dont watch if your not interested in these products, skip the vid, easy, however ppl like us poor folk appreciate the fact he reviews these cheaper products lol
@jacobcordell2882
@jacobcordell2882 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this dude it's so hard to get into new video games when they're essentially just rip off of an old video game
@astarothsediles3653
@astarothsediles3653 5 жыл бұрын
Garbage, DO NOT BUY THIS!!
@joehdah5395
@joehdah5395 5 жыл бұрын
Dude c'mon the creator is reading these comments
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