I'll never understand why doing an honest review w/ Pros & Cons...is me "PROMOTING" something? If that was the case, wouldn't I just talk about only the positive aspects? When a device is for sale, don't you want to know what to look out for before you purchase? #Annoyed #NotSponsored
@CyberComGaming5 жыл бұрын
keep rockin' man - much support!
@Fattydeposit5 жыл бұрын
Even a 'bad' review is promotion because it's still exposure. Did you miss the people in this comment section who have stated that they've explicitly ordered these cables because of this video? Your fairness to the product - being able to still recommend them as a budget option despite their abysmal colour reproduction, 16:9 video distortion and ridiculous level of additional lag (their most critical flaw IMO and the one entirely unmentioned in the video) leaves you open to accusations of shilling and / or quickly cranking out a video without actually properly testing gameplay.
@Recoverel5 жыл бұрын
@@Fattydeposit Exposure does not equal to promotion. I think Metal Jesus made a fair evaluation in this video. He definitely talked about the pros and cons. And yes, there are gamers who are mindful of their budget, and they would rather spend less and settle for less.
@aftereando5 жыл бұрын
Just ignore those haters... but I really want to know.... Did you test this cable with the N64 or the Gamecube ? I was really curious about it and you didn't even mentioned it.
@videogameobsession5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't worry too much about it. Just as long as you clearly state that you got the product for free when reviewing it, to cover your butt.
@MrMario20115 жыл бұрын
Disappointing release, I'll be passing on this like I did with the PS1/PS2 cable. Forcing a stretched aspect ratio will turn off many people, and that color inaccuracy is horrible. Not cool when it's causing issues with seeing basic points of gameplay, like a few of the examples shown in here. If Pound is aware of the issue they really should hold off on this cable and release it once this issue is fixed, not release it in the current state and possibly fix it in a later revision. Either way, thanks for the review on this! On another note - you can pull a sharper image natively from SNES hardware if you get your hands on a SNES Jr. and RGB mod it, in conjunction with a cable like this.
@DiZZiEntertainment5 жыл бұрын
To be fair here I like the enhanced "REDS" to me it bought out details that I have never noticed before and also enhanced some features that look way better. I don't mind using my TV to change the aspect ratio which I'm sure is not a big deal for most people.
@MrMario20115 жыл бұрын
@@DiZZiEntertainment On the flip side it also makes darker games much harder to see. At the end of the day people play on original hardware for compatibility and accuracy. A messed up color palette and stretched aspect ratio is not what many users are after if they're playing on original hardware.
@DiZZiEntertainment5 жыл бұрын
@@MrMario2011 So, you buy an upscaler (to 720p), and complain because it is 720p. The widescreen format (16:9 ratio) is part of the standard. I can understand about the color palette issue but majority of the complaints can be resolved from basically 99.9% of the consumers knowing how to operate their televisions.
@sourcedrop76245 жыл бұрын
Can't you change tint values in most tv's? Red over saturation solved.
@DiZZiEntertainment5 жыл бұрын
@@sourcedrop7624 You sure can
@Eazy_Bruh5 жыл бұрын
Im so glad that you review these products you show off for us! I really enjoy your honesty and time you put into your videos man! It prolly took a while for you to get gameplay with every single different cable/option. Looks like such an awesome idea, 30$ really isnt bad. Although I'd rather have one for the N64.
@stevencolon17232 жыл бұрын
Honestly, this is exactly what I need. My dad's been wanting an Snes for a while and he's not as picky about image quality as I am, and this will work for him. Thanks!
@angryapplecart5 жыл бұрын
an honest review with pros and cons! much appreciated unbias content here, as usual!
@Cotivity5 жыл бұрын
I really dig your retro coverage and that you review ongoing efforts to keep the older systems relevant, in collectors collections.
@jeremylovesretro5 жыл бұрын
I was on the edge of my seat excited for this review, but I don't care for the color/saturation issues discussed. I sure appreciate the helpful, honest review though!
@salvoembers32635 жыл бұрын
looking forward to the revision release on this one. Pound can take a hike until then. Thanks MJR. You saved me $30 and you rock!
@Mystemo5 жыл бұрын
Does ANYONE actually prefer playing retro games stretched? Is filling out the entire screen really so important that it's worth making the game look significantly worse?
@nhh123455 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people playing games stretched. I don't think they notice or understand the difference. For me, aspect ratio is the most important thing. It has to look the way it was intended. I think the reason it's not scaling to 4:3 is because it would take more logic and processing on the hdmi adapter itself. Luckily as MJR states, nearly all TVs have an option to switch between 16:9 and 4:3.
@josephavallone10725 жыл бұрын
When i wanna play hd i usually play my snes or nes mini. I prefer most gaming on crts
@rikimiki125 жыл бұрын
years ago when not all tv stations had 16:9 ratio but all lcds were 16:9 i've seen many people keeping their tvs with the image stretched. i asked and some didn't understand the difference, others said "why keep the screen space not used on the sides?". so... stretched is just dumb
@PhillipCummingsUSA5 жыл бұрын
That like asking if people prefer fucking stretched out thots.
@demoh2o5 жыл бұрын
Honestly playing retro games stretched doesn't really bother me. For some reason having big black bars on both sides on my screen bothers me more lol. Once you get used to having a full screen, it looks weird going back to 4:3
@leburn985 жыл бұрын
The color inaccuracy is a deal breaker for me, although I could definitely see people who may not notice it or simply not care. It really comes down to the games in question. For example, I thought that the Super Mario World footage looked quite good but others look way too dark. For me, the stretched 16:9 out of the box is not an issue. I have a Sony Bravia 50", three ASUS 24" monitors and an old 720p LG that is pushing 12 years that all have an option to set the picture format to 4:3 or 16:9. To be honest, I have never found a HDTV that didn't have this option available (that's not to say they don't exist).
@ericeric43792 жыл бұрын
S video is best with purple monster cable
@JesusG-cm2jx2 жыл бұрын
What if you mess with the colors on your tv ? You think that might fix it ?
@RetroGamePlayers5 жыл бұрын
I just use S-Video for my SNES, but I understand the appeal of HDMI for new TVs
@ericmeiring25125 жыл бұрын
Honestly as long as you dont go bigger then like 28-32inch 720p hdmi tv with comp to hdmi converter picture looks fine with less pixel stretching then a 50 inch 1080p or 4k. Havent tryed it but if you run 720p or 1080p signels through your xbox one s or x it upscales the picture to 4k those older games may look amazing On a big 4k doing it with your nintendo switxh gives your switch games anti-aliasing and improves vision distance some. Dont know how micro got the signel passing through the xbox but im sure its running through the cpu and makes the xbox at least a very bad ass scaler.
@Kalle722 жыл бұрын
Ok
@kenmys5 жыл бұрын
Not only is it saturated and reds are high, but it looks like it has a smoothing effect applied. With the Analogue you can see the pixels and corners perfectly. Everything with this cable seems to smooth out the edges, which purists will not like. If your a casual owner that just wants to connect an old SNES to a modern set, this is fine for the price I guess. Best way to play is an Analogue system and/or a SNES with the scart/upscaler solution, but both are in the hundreds of dollars.
@vincentferrari5 жыл бұрын
Sorry; stretching to fill the screen by default is a fail. Period.
@jong23595 жыл бұрын
Definitely not a fail, you are in the minority. Most, if not all (STATISTICALLY), common consumers want their television to be filled with no black borders.
@TechWithSean5 жыл бұрын
Yep. This is a hard pass 🤚
@vincentferrari5 жыл бұрын
You do realize this is an adapter designed to play 20-30 year old games right? I highly doubt that the granny who wants to watch Murder She Wrote non-letterboxed is buying this.
@gerff015 жыл бұрын
So, you buy an upscaler (to 720p), and complain because it is 720p. The widescreen format (16:9 ratio) is part of the standard. The Ignorance is rampant on this shit.
@gerff015 жыл бұрын
@@CAPCOM784 What are you saying? Are you inferring that changing the visuals and format from what it was designed to view, somehow could make it look different than intended?
@Tayra_Reberta5 жыл бұрын
I do want to mention this to you, there were many low budget home owners that didn't have TV's with AV connectors and when the SNES first came out, the AV cables were sold separate and came with an RF Switch instead. So many of them used an RF Switch instead because AV CRTVs were a bit more expensive at the time of the SNES' release. I think later as the AV CRTVs went down in price is when Nintendo opt out the RF Switch and started selling the AV cables with them as the AV CRTVs were getting more popular.
@lestergoods5 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the old CRT for my retro games. Just love the old feel that it brings back.
@The-Fishkeeper5 жыл бұрын
Using a decent upscaler like the FrameMeister or OSSC on a modern TV looks just as good in my opinion. In fact if you are in the US and thus can't access RGB from your consoles via most CRT televisions, it actually looks a lot better than it ever could on an old consumer grade CRT.
@The-Fishkeeper5 жыл бұрын
@@subzero8679 how so?
@The-Fishkeeper5 жыл бұрын
@@subzero8679 Really? I've had mine for 2 years or so, use it pretty much every day and it's never given me any trouble. It just gives me amazing picture quality that rivals that of a PVM with minimal lag and great flexibility / customisability. It also has excellent compatibility with televisions unlike some of the other scalers on the market which simply line multiply and can produce an "of spec" image that some TV's simply aren't capable of understanding.
@chaot82904 жыл бұрын
If you can have one it is good. But in my opinion having a flat, big TV that weighs less then 50kg is a hell of an advantage. I just can't put a (useab) 150kg TV that is like half a Meter or even more in depth in my room. And that it is barely 40"
@LonSeidman5 жыл бұрын
Analogue Super NT is THE way for SNES enthusiasts to enjoy the games in HD. It's so awesome.
@MetalJesusRocks5 жыл бұрын
Truth.
@ootwii5 жыл бұрын
Would u all give this a try or pass??.the super nt is very temptin...i have a retron 5 would u just stick with that??.
@WhiteboyUltima5 жыл бұрын
@@ootwii The Retron 5 is a toy compared to Analogue's products.
@ootwii5 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteboyUltima ive heard many great things about analogues products..i luv too try both of them..would u try this product if u was.me??.
@DouggieDaDucker5 жыл бұрын
I want to get the Super Famicom one if they under 200 bucks thou because I hate how people are charging around half a grand for one.....
@Dzeath15 жыл бұрын
Respect for honesty. Very little left on youtube that are not sellouts
@RetroGamingDev5 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks for doing it. It seems like people could probably overcome most of the issues with some tweaks to TV picture settings, which would make this a very affordable option (IMO).
@tavius882 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking!
@agamelegend94412 жыл бұрын
Yea a lot of new smart TVs or even just basic HDTVs can just lower the saturation of the input or just change certain colors entirely.
@andrewclegg95015 жыл бұрын
Checked Lamborghini on my US SNES through a calibrated Sony BVM using RGB. Red levels are higher than your composite, a little higher than the Analogue, but nothing as saturated like the Pound. The car is more red, but the background still retains the yellow.
@GameTacoFTW5 жыл бұрын
I think $30 is a little too high for a cable that has no 4:3 support and inaccurate colors.
@DoctorPoo5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it blows my mind when people review these as appealing to the "More Budget-Minded Gamer" as if throwing away $30 is budget-minded.
@HenriqueSilva-tx5wc5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Lots of money for the quality offered.
@oscarsalaiz78405 жыл бұрын
Well, relative to other options like analogue nt, framemeister upscaler or ossc, this is actually a much cheaper option by far. But it’s just that. An option.
@skins4thewin5 жыл бұрын
LOL good lord, you guys really have no clue what this sort of stuff normally costs do you? $30 is freaking bargain basement cheap for anything involving RGB upscaling. I honestly don't know how one can expect any better from something this cheap.
@s604164 жыл бұрын
the output colors of pound cable actually look like the colors on the Sharp CRT i'm using right now. tv has different colors back then,my grandma's tv used to look green-ish...maybe the designers of this cable used the same Sharp Tv im using now as color reference?but not having 4:3 support is a bummer tho
@43bigsteve5 жыл бұрын
I still have my SNES hooked up to a CRT and was looking at getting the HD retrovision component cables for it. But I was waiting to see if pound released an HDMI to hook it up to a newer tv. After seeing this, I think I’m gonna stick with the CRT for now and pick up the retrovision cables
@43bigsteve5 жыл бұрын
CastleMania Games and I know just where to order them!
@TroutButter5 жыл бұрын
Just like the PS2/1 cable from Pound, they screwed the pooch on this one. I have the Xbox (I think the revised one) and Dreamcast cables and they are actually really good. No stretching at all, extremely good video quality and they work without plugging in USB power.
@danielbrydon38695 жыл бұрын
I actually found the ps1/2 cable to be excellent
@tacoengineer66605 жыл бұрын
@@danielbrydon3869 The PS1/2 one works great on PS1 but not not as great on PS2
@maverickhuntermeta49545 жыл бұрын
Why no USB plug-in, because the Dreamcast and Xbox don't have power bricks built-in their respective power cables.
@TheShadowBrigade5 жыл бұрын
The Dreamcast one is awful too. Screen shifting and weird ass screen tearing... no thanks.
@wildstray925 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely shocked you didn't cover latency at all with this review. That information is vital for a device like this.
@Pwntyounooblol5 жыл бұрын
You get what you pay for. Just look at the game text when MJR compares composite, analog NT & pound cable, the analog NT blows them out of the water. Stick with professionally made products such as the analog NT, HDMI console mods or high quality RGB cables with a CRT.
@M.C.D.Technologies5 жыл бұрын
When you play these old games on a newer TV make sure to up the sharpness that should help with the blurry text. They need to fix the reds in this HDMI kit and I also agree they should not be out putting in 16:9 ratio.
@micronian5 жыл бұрын
Cables like these are perfect for those retro gamers that don't care about video and audio quality, lag, correct colors, artifacts, etc. and there are surprisingly a whole bunch of them. I know a few that for the sake of simplicity, plug all their systems including PS3 and XBOX 360 to a composite switch box plugged to their LCD HDTV, and they are happy playing it just like that. Once I even felt so bad for this one friend of mine, that I gave him a 20 inch Sony Trinitron in excellent shape, it had composite and component inputs, I calibrated the convergence on it, told him he should at least play his old systems the way they were meant to be played on a CRT. A few weeks later I go visit him, and notice his NES looks like crap on the CRT, I look behind and yup he used the RF cable.
@cencil64975 жыл бұрын
Some people really just don't care about the difference. Weird I know.
@sonofriggnarok93205 жыл бұрын
People don't care about the issue because the NES games ect. have poor graphics compared to games now, they don't see the difference nor do they care.
@OfficialiGamer5 жыл бұрын
for those across the pond using PAL, Pound did annouce on their Facebook page that it works just fine on PAL SNES consoles
@RetroSho5 жыл бұрын
Three problems with these cables: 1) 16:9 out of the box is an awful decision. Even more so if there’s no 4:3 option. 2) You shouldn’t have to change the color & saturation settings on your television/capture card to accommodate for a new cable. 3) Due to #2 the components used in the cable should be suspect to be of very cheap quality. This is pretty on par for a Chinese cash grab towards the retro community, and I would advise people spend a few more bucks for a better solution (HD Retrovision Cables, OSSC, Super NT) if they are looking to spend on their SNES retro set up.
@diegocrusius5 жыл бұрын
but the Super NT is a whole new console, no?
@magicbusgb3 жыл бұрын
I bought it nonetheless and i gotta say i'm impressed, video quality is pretty great and color saturation is not so severe. The output is 4:3, even when the TV is set to 16:9, i was definitely not expecting that
@PaperBanjo642 жыл бұрын
They must have secretly released an updated version that displays in 4:3, I had the version that displayed widescreen and had to set the TV to 4:3.
@UncleSilverGaming5 жыл бұрын
"Hey, Emperor Palpatine, what did you think of the Pound HDMI cable?" "Something, something, dark side."
@YOGO_MUSHI5 жыл бұрын
What I’ve learned from this video is the super NT analogue is amazing.
@itchyisvegeta5 жыл бұрын
If you are wanting quality on a budget, better to get the Retrotink. However, just like the Retrotink, if this cable existed a few years ago when I started collecting retro games, I probably would have went with it and been happy with it, and just adjusted my TV settings. Now that I am running Framemeister, retrotink, and HD Retrovision cables, no way I would go with this.
@Am0r_y_PeZ5 жыл бұрын
Im still playng my famicom snes ps2 and wii on a trinitron crt tv , but is always great to see this videos all the choices to all kind of players
@randomreviews90165 жыл бұрын
The analog looks Amazing !
@deckofcards875 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, there's no comparison to the crt image.
@MetalJesusRocks5 жыл бұрын
The Analogue Super NT is worth every penny. Amazing device!
@randomreviews90165 жыл бұрын
@@mrmii6596 indeed... Autocorrect failed me.
@dooganchode94475 жыл бұрын
@@mrmii6596 insert spongebob voice meme
@Seijuro20075 жыл бұрын
I like how pound does the job. I´ll buy it for sure and you can control the color saturation and bright on your tv.
@Dartht33bagger5 жыл бұрын
Even the first game had the saturation problem. I immediately noticed that her red ninja suit was darker than the original footage.
@muchthink5355 жыл бұрын
I saw LRG announce this and hoped you had a review up - and my prayers were answered! I like the idea here but I already have a Retron for when I need to record SNES footage and I personally don’t mind the muddiness of old fashioned composite. Maybe a good compromise for someone on a budget though!
@GadgetUK1645 жыл бұрын
It's worth £1 (one Pound) =D
@jaythepirateroberts60125 жыл бұрын
I'll pound anything once.
@6581punk5 жыл бұрын
They forgot to print "land" after their name.
@Geth77775 жыл бұрын
@@6581punk I can already see Ashens trying this out...
@6581punk5 жыл бұрын
@@Geth7777 so long as he can fit a TV on that sofa. Probably end up setting fire to it. Bigclive could take it apart and tell us why it sucks
@ganjam0n5 жыл бұрын
lol :)
@NewGabeOrder5 жыл бұрын
Well, SNES does not seem to have widescreen games. The PlayStation does have widescreen games, like Touge Max, Bloody Roar II, Wip3out and PAC-MAN WORLD, so that’s why the Pound HDMI adapter for the latter stretches the screen in the 720p space.
@skins4thewin5 жыл бұрын
I have heard that they have worked on updated firmware for these cables, hopefully they have fixed some of these issues, specially the color inaccuracy and lag. And a 4:3 aspect ratio sure would be nice. Doubt there's a ton they can do though with the crappy Chinese chip set they are using.
@michaelbarnett44165 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the side by side comparisons. It allows the consumer to see it for themselves. Personally, I dont think it is a bad idea to get and seems as a fair price.
@nevarezfamilygaming5 жыл бұрын
Happy New Years metal Jesus Crew!
@datboijr015 жыл бұрын
Being born in 87’ the SNES is my childhood console. We didn’t have much money and the games were very expensive so one way we played different games was by sharing and borrowing games from neighbors and vice versa. I would go over to my friends homes and play for hours and then we would take a break and went outside to play. You don’t see this happen anymore. Man how the years went by...
@videogameobsession5 жыл бұрын
I wish you would do comparisons between Svideo and HDMI. I was lucky enough to have an Svideo cable for my SNES back in August 1991 and a nice Svideo compatible CRT. The Svideo (Y/C) cable gets rid of the color bleeding and crosshatch effect, even on a modern HDTV.
@alisillo35 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE THE BEST GAME KZbinR CONGRATS FROM COLOMBIA
@FatherAxeKeeper5 жыл бұрын
Why would it be 16x9 by design? why would anyone want pancaked graphics in their games? “Let’s pay money for an hdmi upscaller to make the games look better, then stretch out the games to make them look worse again!!” Lol
@corsegerspwnd5 жыл бұрын
Cause its a fucking cashgrab m8
@TheatreStyle5 жыл бұрын
Oh believe me, such people exist. They don't care how stretched the image becomes, they can't stand seeing empty space on either side of their picture.
@FatherAxeKeeper5 жыл бұрын
TheatreStyle which makes no sense to me, seems screwing up the graphics and sprites would be worse than some black space.
@FatherAxeKeeper5 жыл бұрын
DrLite because that’s how the games were originally intended to look. They looked blurry due to the limitations of televisions at the time, not because they games were designed to look bad. These new hookups allow you to see the games the way they were designed.
@kgisabeast5 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t you just adjust on your tv to display the picture in 4:3? That’s what I do when I play n64 on my hdtv
@tavius882 жыл бұрын
Thinking of getting a SNES and this for my wife for Christmas
@ChrisLerouxDesign5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why all of these hardware manufacturers stretch the image by default. Sure you want to maximize that real estate on the screen, but not at the cost of stretched pixels. At least give people the option (using a workaround on a TV shouldn't count). Also, manually playing around with the RGB values is a royal pain if you're using your TV for anything other than the console. I guess if your TV allows you to save color profiles it's alright, but still really annoying. For $30 I think the price is alright, but I'd personally wait for a second revision where the key issues are fixed.
@The90sGamingGuy5 жыл бұрын
I might buy this pound HDMI device for my SNES. The Analogue NT is an amazing SNES clone like system. Great video!
@nicolasrolke35385 жыл бұрын
How is the lag?
@breachless53205 жыл бұрын
THIS. This is way more important than saturated colors to me. I want to know if this is going to be a viable alternative to my mammoth CRT tv in terms of input lag.
@mtunayucer5 жыл бұрын
John Keefe in addition to converter's lag, lcd displays also have a huge lag compared to crt's.
@Fattydeposit5 жыл бұрын
These Pound cables use a scaler chip which adds about 6-7 frames of input lag. They're absolutely terrible.
@ItzElixsis5 жыл бұрын
@@Fattydeposit really? Dang.. then it's not worth it.
@MetalJesusRocks5 жыл бұрын
Most upscalers will add lag unfortunately and this one does a bit, but I didn't find games unplayable with the 30 or so games I tried. It's also important to put your HDTV in GAME MODE so it doesn't add unnecessary video processing on top of that.
@orbitori15725 жыл бұрын
Framemeister and RGB Cables are still one of the best solutions for many consoles. By myself i have an Automaticlly RGB Scart Switcher (8-Port) hooked up to the Framemeister and all consoles have RGB Cables, its not cheap but its worth it. But for 30$ its not that bad and u can adjust your tv too look it better.
@Neffets5 жыл бұрын
A little? You're being too kind, MJR :) This looks over saturated to me. I would also have concerns about input lag. I know your tv has influence on this, but I can only imagine the Pound making it worse. For $30 this would be okay for someone who doesn't know better.
@Duke_Togo_G135 жыл бұрын
I think the contrast and saturation of the pound really takes away details in the background. Analogue has the best balance.
@The-Fishkeeper5 жыл бұрын
Pound cables really aren't very good, they're okay for people just want something cheap and convenient but there are VASTLY superior options out there for using retro consoles with modern televisions. God knows why they intentionally stretch 4:3 content to 16:9, looks bloody terrible and there are some TV's out there that do not feature the option to manually change the aspect ratio back. If they insist on stretching it by default, they should at least build in a switch that allows you to change back to the original aspect ratio.
@d3s1r3dpk4 жыл бұрын
what are some good ones. Ive been wanting to connect my Super Nintendo to my Samsung Smart tv for the longest. im about to just buy a older tv at this point
@Orange-Jumpsuit-Time Жыл бұрын
If you don't like the colors or the lighting, contrast, etc. you can always customize those settings and save them on most modern TV's and call up the saved settings when gaming. DUH!
@JRRSantore5 жыл бұрын
Pound seems to be consistently Meh
@Bwelrick5 жыл бұрын
The pound does look the worst of the three. Just get a Sony Trinitron CRT
@MetalJesusRocks5 жыл бұрын
I got good results from their original XBOX and Dreamcast cables...but this one bugs me with the red saturation...
@viperusmaximus37865 жыл бұрын
@@MetalJesusRocksI love your voice Jason you should really do stop smoking hypnosis or something. LOL
@rivlezz5 жыл бұрын
Definitely, it'll get you a better picture but usually at a cost of a few things.
@TiberiusWallace5 жыл бұрын
@@Bwelrick yay for composite, right?
@jochenwuerfel5 жыл бұрын
Me again, got my cable today and it's AMAZING. Couldn't resist playing Rock 'n Roll Racing to see what it will look like. One question because you were at the Hyperkin booth at E3: They also have released a SNES/N64/GC HDMI cable. Would be awesome if you could test the new cable, with the "old" one from Pound and maybe results from your upscalers. Rock on!
@RetroTekGuyAU5 жыл бұрын
Spending 10 seconds in your TV's picture settings can correct everything the Pound does wrong. So in my book it's a win. Will consider a purchase.
@GreenPintoMedia5 жыл бұрын
DrQuinMagna aspect ratio aside, this thing is noisy and soft as hell. It's absolutely not worth getting when you could save up and get a proper upscaler like the Framemeister or line doubler like the OSSC.
@RetroTekGuyAU5 жыл бұрын
@@GreenPintoMedia Noise isn't really an issue for my setup. I have a custom built cabinet that cancels out nearly all my systems noises. Mainly built it for an old AMD phenom system I kept inside it. But I look mainly for picture quality. 30 bucks ain't bad in my situation.
@mus2473655 жыл бұрын
@@GreenPintoMedia And how much do the Framemeister or OSSC cost?
@ReznorAddict5 жыл бұрын
DrQuinMagna he means video noise, not audio noise from the cable.
@deckofcards875 жыл бұрын
@@mus247365 Way too much, about half a grand for the XRGb Framemeister.
@thcollegestudent5 жыл бұрын
Great to see another vid from you!
@_BitJager_5 жыл бұрын
The saturation could be fixed when you're HD TV has the decent tools to configure the saturation.
@mombepombe5 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, what setting does he have the HDTV on? There are so many options to adjust the video/saturation/display settings...
@Fattydeposit5 жыл бұрын
Filip - 'Fixing' the TV settings for this cable - which would break the settings for everything else - is not a solution.
@_BitJager_5 жыл бұрын
@@Fattydeposit A decent TV lets you save multiple presets. I admit it's not the best solution but it is a solution.
@Fattydeposit5 жыл бұрын
@@_BitJager_ A decent cable doesn't force you to upgrade your TV. In any case the most important issue - the huge amount of input lag this cable adds - isn't mentioned at all. It's the *worst* SNES cable on the market LOL
@_BitJager_5 жыл бұрын
@@Fattydeposit - I didn't know anything about the input lag. Input lag is a huge no no. So I'm with you with that!
@sombrashibe5 жыл бұрын
My CRT TV from 1993 doesn't have any AV/composite connections, so my SNES and Genesis/MD are left to be used with RF. I've been considering cables like these to play them on my normal TV, but just haven't been satisfied with the visuals. Plus, I have to be careful because of photosensitivity due to migraines. The saturation can be a factor, if the TV settings can't correct it. Being a gamer with migraines sucks.
@codex_ata24935 жыл бұрын
Man, for reviews like this.. really need to show what the comparison is between an ideal solution vs this budget solution. No one uses composite with Framemeister, so that misleading advertising by Pound should be ignored. Notice Pound doesn't mention the OSSC, which is faster than the Framemeister at less than half the price. Compare RGB+Framemeister or SCART/Component+OSSC for a *REAL* comparison. The HD Retrovision component cables are around $63, and paired with the OSSC, it's at pure RGB-level of quality with almost zero lag introduced, unlike the Framemeister or Pound. The OSSC can be built for around $100, or buy it for around $150-175 if you can't solder, but that's a one-time cost to support all retro consoles from one device, unlike a cable. I use the OSSC for over a dozen consoles, so that's around $8-10 per console plus the $63 for HD Retrovision. $73 to have the SNES look *perfect* with nearly zero additional lag compared to $30 for cables that introduce a lot of lag, have over-saturated colors, and make me want to put on glasses to try to sharpen how blurry the game looks.. no thanks.. just use a $12 composite-to-HDMI converter if you just want to play on modern TVs on a budget.
@Fattydeposit5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, all truth. Pound's dodgy marketing pretty much confirms that they shouldn't be embraced by the community. Their shamelessly cynical comparison pics regarding this product are reprehensible.
@jochenwuerfel5 жыл бұрын
Hey Metal Jesus, thanks to your video I went out and bought the cable. I'm super stoked about how my games are gonna look like. Last time I hooked up my good ol' SNES it was with RF (pretty common back then) but boy.. that's no fun at all. Even though some things might be a bit too saturated, I can easily configure my TV to match. Heavy greetings from Germany!
@transfiguration88655 жыл бұрын
So basically, if your tv still has composite hookups, just use those. lol
@LotoTheHero5 жыл бұрын
If you're using an HD TV, that isn't really optimal. Most HD TVs handle compostie very poorly. It looks ugly and you get weird ghosting.
@WednesdayMan5 жыл бұрын
not to mention 240p, many HD TVs treat 240p as a 480i signal then try to de-interlace it which negatively affects the signal.
@ChiefDad1175 жыл бұрын
I never play my older games stretched. I play my old games from NES-PS2 era on my 1080p television and I put the screen at the smallest ratio and honestly even with composite video my games look fantastic.
@daniellado25235 жыл бұрын
Well at least the games that show off mode 7 graphics will stand out even more.
@diegocrusius5 жыл бұрын
thank you for doing this. It really helps. I want to get an upscaler in the future but since I live in south america I'll just have the reviews to guide me.
@PixelGameSquad5 жыл бұрын
I'm so easy to please when it comes to these HDMI cable solutions. Odd they chose to default as full screen but still overall seems pretty cool 🤘Also.... I'm hiding in your closet
@MetalJesusRocks5 жыл бұрын
I'm making you a sandwich.
@tavius882 жыл бұрын
That saturation can be fixed with tv settings, not a big deal, this looks like a good option
@Smartphonekanalen5 жыл бұрын
Whould be possible to fix the red issue with a resistor on red signal on RGB. Or just change the levels on tv.
@stimpsonjcat265 жыл бұрын
As long as the converter didn't crush the colors
@topchief15 жыл бұрын
Smartest thing I did was get a bunch of rgb scart cables for most of my Retro systems. I have a rgb switch box from Amazon and i have my snes, genesis and neo geo aes connected to a trinitron with the switch box allowing me to swap between them.
@KMACKTIME5 жыл бұрын
Will it also work on gc and n64?
@robbyandrews2235 жыл бұрын
@CastleMania Games Why not?
@Kirii865 жыл бұрын
@@robbyandrews223 I would imagine its because the cable uses the SNES RGB signal. Unmodded N64 and NTSC Gamecubes dont work with that
@pokepress5 жыл бұрын
What about an RGB-modded N64?
@phazonlord00985 жыл бұрын
They won't work with NTSC N64 and GC because those don't output RGB, but they might work with the PAL GC because it does have native RGB support, but them the cable might not support 480i output
@TylerSteven95 жыл бұрын
I was wondering this too, I don't see why it wouldn't work on an RGB-modded N64.
@videogameobsession5 жыл бұрын
8:34 Run Saber has a nice mauve colored wig.. Good job Pound!
@EposVox5 жыл бұрын
That's a big nope!
@wibzard3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean?
@fluffisaurus70903 жыл бұрын
@@wibzard It’s a terrible cable. Get something like the Rad 2x instead, it handles the signal properly.
@wibzard3 жыл бұрын
@@fluffisaurus7090 Oh, I have an NES and I am trying to look for a cable, I’ll check out the RAD 2x
@joncleary88965 жыл бұрын
I have a few of these pound cables myself and the main thing I have noticed is that they are pretty inconsistent when it comes to image quality. They are great solutions for the vintage gamer with a modest budget but there are better solutions to be found.
@djl34855 жыл бұрын
Analogue Super NT is still the best way to play.
@djl34855 жыл бұрын
@@subzero8679 Yea.....no.
@GatchetCore5 жыл бұрын
Hey Metal Jesus It would be interesting to see a Wii HDMI adapter video in the future! appreciate your work man.
@RedArremer5 жыл бұрын
The pound cable looks terrible. Wrong colors, 16:3 default stretch, and I've seen more detailed screencaps from other console Pound cables showing they don't even output clean pixel edges. It's shoddily made garbage. Would not recommend them to anyone as it would be sociopathic to do so.
@Fattydeposit5 жыл бұрын
"But it's up to YOU to decide" "It's only $30 whereas a Super NT is SIX TIMES more expensive" "You're a troll and jealous" "Make sure to turn on GAME MODE to reduce input lag" "Just turn the saturation down and force 4:3 on your TV" "You sound like a HATER" I think that's the standard responses all covered.
@ElricSowrd5 жыл бұрын
7:41- We both said "Oh my gosh" at the same time. LOL 😄 I agree: the Pound HDMI Version does look darker. Like bleemcast! Metal Gear Solid dark!
@mattwasx5 жыл бұрын
$30 for that is more than fair. Im prolly going to get one eventually.
@Thunderbolt58275 жыл бұрын
Just get a SNES classic and mod it.
@garybennett18595 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderbolt5827 This product is for people who want to play original carts, not roms.
@mattwasx5 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderbolt5827 I already have an original and games. Even bought it after the snes classic was out, just wanted the original, $ didnt really matter much but I'm not paying $100+ for some adapter.
@the1ucidone5 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's so cheap and does nearly the same job as an RGB or HDMI modded console. I'd just ignore the haters and do what is best for your budget brother. This Pound Technology is a fantastic solution for cheap fucks like us lol.
@Fattydeposit5 жыл бұрын
@@Thunderbolt5827 Buying a SNES Classic is actually a great idea for someone considering burning $30 on probably the worst SNES cable on the market. It's, what $60-70 but you get pretty accurate low lag SNES emulation at the same 720p resolution and the hacking software is versatile, easy to use and mature. I'm about real hardware in most cases but the SNES Classic will clearly give you a more authentic solution than the insultingly bad experience the Pound cable provides.
@ian17535 жыл бұрын
For myself playing on my Sony Trinitron CRT with S-Video cables in correct 4:3 aspect ratio is all I ever need. I have a nice Nes/Snes Hdmi Raspberry PI and still find myself going back to playing on on the Trinitron.
@robmoye73735 жыл бұрын
Wow alot of people in the comments actually prefer circular objects on the screen being oval. And the characters short and stubby. Whatever.
@BenderBendingRodriguezOFFICIAL5 жыл бұрын
The stretch isn't that bad. You're over exaggerating.
@RacerX-5 жыл бұрын
"How much does it matter?" That the colors are wrong? It matters a lot. I like the Pound products. The PS1/PS2 and the Dreamcast ones are awesome for the money. But this one for the SNES needs to be tweaked a bit as correct colors are important to me. Also the aspect ratio needs to be either selectable or 4:3 as the games were intended to play.
@Jimble4 жыл бұрын
Playing 4:3 games in 16:9 is like watching 4:3 movies in 16:9. It's garbage.
@powerwolf-vw8st5 жыл бұрын
Very fond memories of lamborghini american challenge i played it alot when i still had a snes , i remember it being one of the harder games to beat that i owned love the soundtrack too.
@m2pt55 жыл бұрын
16:9 with no internal option to switch to 4:3? Hard pass.
@jochenwuerfel5 жыл бұрын
Hard pass? Nah, my TV can overwrite any AR I want.
@embermonkey5 жыл бұрын
thank you for the detailed comparisons and honest review
@BALrider1Steve4 жыл бұрын
Somewhat noticeable you nuts it’s big difference I’ve played this as a kid no that’s a no go
@TheWoody00075 жыл бұрын
being a CS player and playing on 100% Digital Vibrance, I love saturation in my games, it brings out colors so well, I do not mind it at all
@HunterPBrown5 жыл бұрын
And... Purchased. I got an rgb modded N64, I'm interested in seeing if it'll work on that as well
@chriskater5 жыл бұрын
This thing of making old consoles look good in newer TVs is like kicking a dead horse. No use man. I haven't seen one single device or upscaler that really works well. Old consoles like the SNES, Sega and even the Neo Geo were designed to work with old tube, CRT TVs. That's it. The best shapes and colors are ONLY produced in those TVs because the whole programming of the game was made for such screen conditions. So to each their own. I tried the Pound cable for the original Xbox after watching one of your videos because I could see a real improvement and when I tried that I was really surprised as to how well the image quality improved. But that is because the original Xbox is a very powerful machine that produces an excellent image, even when it is connected via composite. So I don't think there is a magic device that will make the console look better because that does not depend much on the cable but rather on what the console is capable of doing. And to prove this, I also went for the HDMI cable for the PS2, and the end result is nowhere near to the Xbox image. Xbox is vastly superior to PS2. Period. So I resolved this I think a year ago, for good. I got a Raspberry Pi as most gamers have. The Retropie OS includes a simulation of scanlines which works incredibly good. I play on a 50" tv and my SNES and Sega games look absolutely beautiful. Like playing on a 50" CRT. I do own all the old consoles with cartridges and I happen to have a CRT, only very small (20") in case I want to "try" the real, authentic retro thing. So if no one wants to try this emulation/scanline solution because they think it's lame and it's not "the real thing" but rather emulation, fine. Try and look for an old CRT. You will never get a quality picture with any cable. Nothing beats the CRT.
@Faxtron5 жыл бұрын
Man you need to check "my life in gaming" channel here on youtube.
@johnc198915 жыл бұрын
I can name a good upscaler... The nintendo wii (the original that works with gamecube games). Gamecube games look fantastic on this through component video, even on my 4k TV.
@Spielewelten5 жыл бұрын
So why should I buy this if I can play all this games on my SNES Mini on my HDTV because it has a HDMI output?
@jonathanlisowski56185 жыл бұрын
This cable is a disappointment but some people want to play their original carts on original hardware on their modern day TV. If a cable is made that gets the picture right many people will be really happy to have another option.
@Jason-vx6vg5 жыл бұрын
I'm hesitant as well, I haven't looked at every smart TV on the market but my LG 4k accepts RCA cables, seems a bit pointless unless you are into stretched out screens and don't know how to do it yourself through the settings. Now if someone magic-ed an F connector to HDMI I'd be all over that, because it means both my Coleco and Atari 7800 can be hooked up to a HDMI splitter.
@darbizzlebacon5 жыл бұрын
Space Megaforce is one of my favorite shooters on the system. I didn't even know about it until I found another channel, SNES Drunk. That guy loves Space Megaforce, and for good reason. I have no interest in this peripheral, but thanks MJR, for taking the time to make this video, and do the side by side comparisons. I know that was probably not very easy to do.
@OddOttAllen5 жыл бұрын
another pound cable? ugh...
@RobertPendell5 жыл бұрын
You can see the issue with the reds in their example screenshots on their website although it isn't as obvious due to the fact that those shots don't actually have much red/orange in them in general however if you compare those sections alone they do look more saturated than they should while the rest of the image looks fine.
@mjaerkens5 жыл бұрын
MJR this channel is going downhill. 1. Doesn't call out obvious crap anymore, I suspect because you are afraid they still stop sending stuff. 2. Videos are always exactly 10min and few seconds for ad revenue while most is filler talk. 3. "Testing" a product should be more than listing the few functions something has. Tell me if I should continue.
@codak295 жыл бұрын
SNES has the same output plug that N64 and Gamecube had. I wish he tested what the Pound cable did in those consoles as well. Also, whenever someone is testing an upscaler I expect an analysis of any lag it may or may not introduce.
@mus2473655 жыл бұрын
Nah please don't continue
@HelloSwiftful5 жыл бұрын
+Shifto Go away son. You're not important.
@MetalJesusRocks5 жыл бұрын
Please tell me what I didn't call out in this video? I think my review said all the pros and cons and was fair for the $30 price point. Notice I included the Analogue Super NT for those that want perfection. As for video length...this video was originally longer with 30 games tested, but that seemed like overkill...so I cut it down.
@Akirapoet5 жыл бұрын
@@MetalJesusRocks Don't feed the troll and keep being awesome, man!
@ivansotelo46225 жыл бұрын
here at my garage, just bought this new 2:57 here!
@qwertNickqwert5 жыл бұрын
Man, a lot of people are hard working to get best pictures from old consoles. MLiG, retroRGB, talented engineers and others. OSSC, good component cables, framemeister, FPGA replica of real consoles, good HDMI solutions, not this crap converter. Man, please, stop advertising this crap and tell people about good products! Even AVGN boost his capture quality. Jesus, give us quality!
@MetalJesusRocks5 жыл бұрын
Not advertising. I'm not encouraging anybody to go buy these, but instead understand they exist and these are the pros & cons. Ya know. Like a regular ol' review.
@mtunayucer5 жыл бұрын
Николай Сопов not everybody has hundreds of money to huy framemeisters and shit man. Other than the highly saturated picture and stretched video, This thing gets the job done for %90 of people.
@deckofcards875 жыл бұрын
I sold my Framemeister, that thing is absurdly expensive and messy for the very simple task it performs. And it still adds input lag.
@thedaily305 жыл бұрын
Bruh... Hinkoman Corncob acting straight gangster in the comment section. “Yo Metal Jesus, how bout some videos for your billionaire militia?!?” Easy, comrade. Not everyone wants to break the bank to get better picture quality.
@tonylenzi1665 жыл бұрын
No, this is y mj is the man, he always shows all the cool or uncool products out there in the gaming world, he always gives an honest review, its not like hes on here saying omg u guys gotta get this, not everyine has the money to get expensive things like framemiesters or whatever just dont watch if your not interested in these products, skip the vid, easy, however ppl like us poor folk appreciate the fact he reviews these cheaper products lol
@jacobcordell28822 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this dude it's so hard to get into new video games when they're essentially just rip off of an old video game