NEW TAYLORMADE M3 IRONS & M4 IRONS

[@malcolmevans2663]

On the strength of your Wilson V6 review, I bought a set of Wilson F5 irons. Got them for £229 in a black Friday deal. Delighted with them and the £750 saving over Taylormade.

[@malcolmevans2663]

notformebeaky Well not entirely on the strength of the review. I've played the original FG Tours for several years. They are great clubs but not really forgiving enough for me. The V6s are direct replacement albeit 3 generations on. The F5s are much the same mould; same lofts and forged but slightly bigger, with more perimeter weighting. I had already been fitted for shafts etc so knew what specs I needed. Rick's review convinced me the latest Wilson irons would be just as good as the originals. I was not disappointed.

[@GolfingMalky]

For me the M3 looks quite good; the M4 less so- I don't like the colored lettering at all. I am liking this new approach testing Rick; the follow on vlogs are eagerly awaited; would love to see you test their work-ability Cheers

[@gatorwhiskers9011]

personally I love how often taylormade release new equipment.... Because now I can get a set of new M1 irons for bargain bin prices

[@wesleight]

Great review, and good comparison to the RSi1 and 2. We hit the irons and the woods yesterday. The M3 irons is most impressive, given this year's improvements, what a difference.

[@ApriliaRacer14]

Always enjoy your reviews Rick. Cheers from Mexico.

[@garyking9341]

Hi Rick, you've done a lot of testing on the different drivers through the years recently.. Id like to see the difference in the 8 (I think) iron sets TM have out this year. I appreciate they are aimed at different players but do you need 8 options a year? I like choice but is there actually any difference between the 770 and 750 for instance? Cheers..

[@christianmatyskiel641]

Hey Rick love the vids! I just got the m3s and haven't played yet but tested them out and was hitting my 7 iron 210 and my 8 200. Love the distance e but like you said the gap between clubs is crazy

[@dustanbratton7536]

Hey Rick, I enjoy watching your videos due to the honest reviews and feedback you give. I’ve been taking lessons recently from a PGA pro and he changed my swing completely. Watching the video you had made awhile ago with MEANDMYGOLF analyzing your swing, I realized that our swings are identical. I also have the tendency to swing 8-9 degrees right. Which for me, being a fairly new player, is incredible considering a few weeks ago I was striking polar opposite. Long story short, do you have any swing tips/ advice for me? I struggle with too much club face manipulation within my swing. And I also struggle a little with attacking down on the ball with irons. Thanks for any tips! Hopefully this question is still applicable, all things considered!

[@bdeheton6445]

You know what truly makes a 7 iron more forgiving - more loft. Most golfers can hit a 34 degree 7 iron MUCH better than a jacked up 28.5 degree 7 iron with the loft that is stronger than some 6 irons. These lofts are just ridiculous and are going to make these irons LESS forgiving for the average golfer. My 5 iron is only 1.5 degrees stronger than the M4 7 iron - that is crazy.

[@alanclayton3970]

Could not have put it better. I cannot see how this sort of iron would help an average golfer like myself. If they made a 34 degree 7 iron, which gave me a high ball flight and another 20 yards distance, then yes!

[@johnnypenso9574]

Not sure why everyone gets bent out of shape with the lofts on clubs. If the 8 iron in this set has traditional 7 iron loft and distance then hit an 8 where you'd normally hit a 7. Why does it matter? It's just a number on the bottom. The only number that matters is the one on the scorecard.

[@bdeheton6445]

Which is why these are really a con. Putting an 8 on a 7 iron, etc. Gets even worse on the bottom end, as the loft of the M4 5-iron is the same as my 3-iron. I wonder how the average golfer is going to cope with hitting a 3-iron - stamped with a 5 on the bottom to make them feel good - into a green. Good luck!

[@mpigroup4159]

I totally agree. Makes no sense. If I want to hit a 195 yard shot than I'll hit my 5 iron. Loft is loft. They're putting too much gap in the shorter irons.

[@slidetechnologies7573]

Everyone has this same fricken argument, yet everyone keeps missing the fricken point!! Yes the lofts are stronger, yes any golf manufacturer can do the same, but can you get the same type of height, landing angle and backspin with your 7 iron as you do with PW or 9 iron? Well that's what the M4 and M3 is about. Pay attention and stop worrying about stronger lofts. If you hit the ball that long and straight stick with your wedge from the marker!

[@olliemcg1017]

Hi Rick...i have set of RSI 1 irons.....would I see a benefit of upgrading to M4 irons?

[@johnklein8219]

Great review, Rick thanks. I currently hit the burner 2 irons but am ready to upgrade. Wondering if one of these two iron sets would be good for me or go straight to the P790. Ant insight?

[@codyclark2471]

Hey Rick great channel thanks for all your efforts.. question have you ever seen a set of nicklaus signature series v18,s golf set...ive been playing them for 10 years ..cavity back club only a few sets found on line but cant find any other information,,,when good players see them they are always interested because they seem to be rare...love to see a review... thanks hang in there !!!2021

[@pasdedeux4444]

Both the M1 and M2 irons caused me major issues in wedge gapping so I dropped both for the Xr SH Pro - the distance on those TM are just nuts

[@williamschicker7679]

Is the ribcore supposed to fix the face slots caving In that happened a lot last year?

[@nbrennan2323]

Can you test how these clubs stop when you are in the rough or the ball or face is wet with such low loft would they not just drop loads of spin? Thanks and love the new format for testing

[@jodymcdermott1]

I'm looking forward to seeing your full review of these irons Rick & I would also like to see how Rob Potter would hit them. Keep up the good work.

[@duncangreen4268]

Hi Rick, as a M2 owner I have the same mentality about getting the ball to stop on the green. I'm not getting the height I did with my Mizuno irons

[@sebc8435]

i really like the look of these and would like to see rob use them ive got the rsi1's the m4 could replace them.great review rick

[@tomgordon6677]

Could u do a comparison with the new TM irons with the old irons such as the R9’s to see the increase in TM technology

[@mikecallaghan2164]

Paul Gordon would love to see this comparison. I use the R9 irons and I love them. What would I benefit by buying the new P 790 s (which I really like the look of)?

[@chrisi1920]

Thanks for the review and comments Rick. I see a lot of reviewer and viewer comments about loft and distance, and to some extent spin. But I don't see much about gap distances, shot shape, the playability of the club. Does TM provide you with enough equipment to make those determinations? It would seem reasonable to at least provide a 9, 8, 7 and 6 to see if these would make any sense for a golfer with your swing speed and strike pattern.

[@sohosterable]

Is the 7 iron shaft the same length as a standard 7 iron?

[@mcfly2727]

Isn't RibCor just a response to Jailbreak?

[@malcolmevans2663]

Martin Dawson Absolutely yes. Just a different and equally daft name.

[@alonsovelez609]

I would say that it isn't since jailbreak is only for drivers (not even fairway woods) and ribcor has been introduced only on irons, They are two complete different things.

[@mcfly2727]

Alonso Velez there is a form of jailbreak in the irons

[@olson_]

Ribcor is adopted from CCM.

[@ericfrieler8229]

CCM and Taylormade are owned by the same company. There are RBZ hockey sticks just like the new RBZ clubs.

[@Plowville]

How well do these irons hit out of a thick rough? When you catch a 'low spinny/flyer' shot out of the light rough does the ball just fall out of the sky really short? thanks for the review.

[@kieranmccallum8726]

How do lofts compare to the RSi line?

[@gmgrib8891]

I hit the M3 and M4 at my local golf shop getting fitted and I loved the M3 irons but of course I hit the M4s longer. I’m a golfer trying to improve my game but I can’t drop $800-$1000 on set of irons when I get better. Should I go with the M3 irons for better shotmaking and sticking it on the green or just go with the M4 because I’m still not quite there ?

[@ellscross7443]

Good test rick may try some

[@APJ-mj3dl]

Hey Rick did you do a test between TaylorMade p 790 versus TaylorMade new M3 irons ?

[@brayski]

Any plans to test the mew Wilson staff c line? C300 forged irons and driver look intriguing.

[@michaelpope1710]

Great demo Rick!!! Can you test this up against the M1, M2, RSi1 and 2? Also can you test it up against the Callaway Apex and XR Steelheads? Thank you.

[@FF04RDF]

Rick is the strong lofts not just a con for the ill informed? People that want to think they are hitting a 7 iron 165 yards but they’re really just hitting a 6 iron. What’s the point? Also a 43 degree pitching wedge? Why do you want a PW to go further, just hit a 9 iron! Am I missing something?

[@FixthisCD]

The trade off is less spin, launch angles aren't usually that far off. His next videos will reveal more

[@cliverkay]

Other point is the shaft length . Take a 6 irons and cut an inch off the length ?? I would like to see how high they hit compared to a reg 35 degree 7 iron.. Basically I ignore what the club says underneath and know how far I hit each and go by that ..

[@alanclayton3970]

Specially in the hands of an average golfer. Watching a PGA professional hit a 28 degree club with professional club head speed means very little to me. I am a very average golfer and basically watching this video tells me nothing.

[@bdeheton6445]

Lowering the loft of any given club narrows the size of the D-plane wedge, which means any mishits or offline shots will be more aggressively offline. This is why many golfers are better using more loft on their driver rather than less. Mishits are worse the lower the loft, and that is because of the physics of D-plane (mytrackman.com/university/learning-tools/understanding-the-d---plane)

[@johnnypenso9574]

Six of one, half dozen of the other. Maybe it means you carry one less club on the high end and one extra wedge. 13 clubs is more than enough clubs to get you around.

[@andrewt1176]

How much higher will the go compared to a blade of the similar loft.??

[@philhellier3043]

Rick what's your opinion for what set out of the m3 and m4 are aimed at the lower handicapper if any??

[@4ampstechnologies208]

Please post the m3 irons complete review. Thanks. I think I prefer the one-and-done reviews you used to do last year.

[@laynescoggins2441]

Hey Rick. I’d love to thoughts on switching from the 2017 M2 to the 2018 M 1 mid handicap guys with need to be able to work the ball more. Thanks!

[@tmiii3]

M3 looks amazing! Currently playing 2014 MC, looking for something w more forgiveness as I don’t play as much as I’d like(less than 8 rounds year) maybe I’ll wait for M1 to be discounted.

[@DimSumDom]

Rick when are you going to do the full review of these irons with the 4 and PW? Thanks!

[@Bemthewalrus]

Future video request: review the Maltby TE Forged or MMB-17 irons. How do small-name forged blades compare to big brands? Cheers

[@Corvette3]

I would be interested to learn how the P790's compare to the M3/M4 irons. Thank you

[@lukecurry7273]

What would look great in these reviews is when you hit a shot, having it on a pro tracer or something and there being a split screen with the GC2 Ball flight, would be a cool feature

[@stiaanheymans2936]

Love the m3 so much

[@olson_]

Ribcor is from CCM, just like theres been a CCM RBZ Speedburner.

[@banditbaker1675]

Like the new format Rick and after all the anti-TM hysteria it`s good to see a balanced review. Perhaps a comparison between the P790, the M3 and last years M1 would be an interesting review?

[@mattparsons946]

Thank you so much for including the lofts. I don't feel nearly as bad given that the M3 7-iron is lofted the same as my 6-iron.

[@mikecallaghan2164]

So confused now Rick with all of these TM irons. Would be really useful to have a video to match clubs with ability ie 0 to 5 handicappers, 5 to 10, 10 to 15 and 15 +. For example, I pay off 8, average 260 off the tee (M2 original version driver) should I buy the RS1 irons which you have rated highly in the past, or the new P790? Does the improvement in technology justify paying the latest price, or would I be better buying a set of irons which is now two years old?

[@sammel7948]

Hey rick big fan from Australia happy new year

[@spooksterz]

Hi Rick. Just a question, because the loft is so strong, how does the m3 and m4 hold against heavy rough? Is the performance different to other clubs?

[@erikwillgard148]

Can you do a head to head between these and the rsi range? It would be interesting to see how much that actually changed.

[@williamtodd1]

Can you chip and run the 8 and 9 iron also how forgiving when you hit a bad shot please

[@smasha1167]

You would've thought TM would have done away with the face slots after all the problems with M1 & M2 irons...

[@scotto6120]

A friend of mine has M2's, is on his 3rd 6 iron because of the outer face insert keeps coming out. His set is less than year old.

[@type1luke392]

A question for the M4, does the strong (low) loft look distracting/of putting when addressing the ball for a mid/high handicapper? Especially the 7 iron looking like a 6 iron.

[@JituKubwa]

Who are these irons for? Simply mid to high handicappers, or could lower single digits benefit from the extra distance? And why would I pick one of these over P790?

[@pabloc5517]

Haha “the BMW, i mean the M4 emblem” halarious

[@bassmasterblasi1405]

What is the name of th shoes were you wearing in this video?

[@gamarosado]

Rick what do you think between M1 irons and P-790?

[@GOLFADDICT65]

Hi Rick...i love your videos...i am about a 15-20 handicap.....53 years old....which of the new irons would you say are best for me.....i am looking for very forgiving irons...i currently have Ping G25 and i am not that happy with them..i am looking at cobra / wilson / taylormade and calloway.....can you give me a list of 5 irons that i should try....thx a bunch...cheers

[@PaulHipToBeSquareAllen]

MySpankster got to be the Phillips Azur Performance.

[@Bassbanjo_12]

Let’s get that more in-depth review!!!

[@acemakerjay]

When should we expect the full reviews for these two clubs? Great video. Love the channel and your approach.

[@richardwarner5491]

Rick , the grips on these irons , how do they feel , should you change them in different weather conditions ?

[@vin7175]

Can you test out the pinnacle soft and the pinnacle rush golf balls?

[@timpirtle3906]

The new format is fantastic....much more information

[@RickShielsPGA]

Thank you Tim!

[@bigdog33bad]

Are the higher lofts more prominent in the mid irons? If the PW is 43.5, would it make that much difference to a 13 handicapper who hits a 45.0 PW?

[@matdowning1]

While you don’t think tm m4 iron necessarily suits your game, from c 195yards, would you be more confident hitting in m4 7-iron or a better players’ 5-iron (say CB 718 or the like), which I guess might go similar distances. I’d be interested to see the results you’d get from this kind of head to head comparison

[@iaincolgan3202]

It would be interesting to see a test from either rob or a higher h'caper, same with the driver's.

[@billdunlop8683]

When you get the sample clubs from the manufacturers Rick, do you adjust the lie angle to your specs?? or do you hit them out of the box?? if you don't adjust them , how does that effect your strike ?

[@WesD85]

Rick, just about to purchase some new clubs am torn between the M1 and M3. When are you doing the comparison review? Would be a great video to watch! Keep up the good work! 👍

[@Statik313Cling]

Suggested handicap for each set of clubs? (example: low, mid or high)

[@harrybyrne5837]

Test the P730 7 irons against the M3 iron

[@mikerooneym6266]

I'm a new golfer (4 months) and would like seeing reviews with you and Rob (mid handicapper) testing clubs. I can relate more to his skill but also enjoy watching yours (How they should be hit).

[@maltebrasknielsen2298]

Hi Rick. Love your videos/content/work! I wanna know how heavy they feel? I have to use graphite shafts because my body is broken by a cancer tumor in the lower back. I love the idea of the M1 irons - now M3 but the heads felt so heavy was my initial thought when the M1 irons came out ca. a year ago.. :-) Best regards Malte

[@anderman1970]

Will you be taking them on to the course?.

[@simonwhitehead37]

Hi Rick,cantfind the full M3 review yet, when you post can you compare to the M1? Cheers Simon

[@ayjie6829]

Yea they are stronger lofted, from looking at all the comments you dont understand that they are designed to go higher and the height of a normal loft. And that is suited to other different golfers and slower seing speeds better. High launch low spin is accurate but might not be good in the 5 to 4 irons for stopping. So basically they are hybrid irons

[@christopherpatterson4851]

Make the loft stronger and the ball goes further - what a concept taylormade :/ I would love to see these new irons in an older loft setting and compare to the ol' Ping Eye 2's

[@jasoncandelaria4675]

strong lofts to keep ball flight down, i bet that m4 7 iron still flies 33-35 yards high

[@JMacc1979]

I'd like to see the M3 compared to the RSI2 further. The RSI2 was such a great club, and I still game them, but if there is a new improved update to them, I can see myself going out and getting these

[@FusionMan488]

Hey Rick, did you adjust the clubs before hitting them or are they straight out the box? Another thought, does playing off Astro turf make a difference to shot compared to playing off actual turf? Cheers mate.

[@robpottergolf]

What are the spin numbers on the 7i for them both? If I'm right in thinking, for optimum spin for control on a green you'd want approx 7000rpm. I've found with my irons that's not the case and I've suffered holding greens because if that.

[@nicpn]

Hi Rick - which would you recommend for a mid handicap player - M3 or M4 irons and drivers?

[@Packer910]

Would M4 be an upgrade from my Ping GMax irons?

[@magnus9276]

Does this mean the M2 Irons will be cheaper??

[@grantb9365]

The one thing I wonder about is offset. My swing needs as little offset as possible and that is a huge factor for me.

[@Kringlan84]

Don't test one seven iron against another one as if they are interchangeable, the numbers stamped on them are irrelevant. Instead put the flag some distance away and figure out which club you would actually pick for that given distance from the sets you are reviewing, that's what's comparable. If it's an eight vs. a seven so be it. That is the real choice for golfers out on the course. Love the work you put in Rick, thank you!

[@ynznypdzaveri]

What are the spin numbers and height on the shots when you hit a low punch shot or a high controlled fade

[@gretchengoff3413]

i am a 4 handicap could i do a graphite shaft m3 3 iron for a driving iron

[@aidankarsten7919]

What is the purpose of the notch in the back of the sole on the m4

[@andybarton234]

Style by Nissan Juke designer? 😱😱😱

[@ryan.w8670]

I'm looking to get some new clubs Would you say that the Taylormade m1 and m3 are the best club for getting further distance/yardage or does that come down to personal preference or is their other clubs out that'll maximise my yardage and shorten my game? if anyone could answer me that would be appreciated thanks.

[@kapeed14]

@5:34 Ah! May be that explains?!! My yardages are as follows M3 5i - 185 yards M3 6i - 170 yards M3 7i - 160 yards M3 8i - 135 yards :( M3 9i - 125 yards :( M3 PW - 115 yards

[@MHS0027]

Given these are so strong does the gapping (in terms of ball distance) work on these sets of clubs ?

[@Javier-ev9jt]

Down with Taylormade!!!! Long live Parfield!!!!

[@Vonwolfgang2011]

Ricky Dink survived :-)

[@peterd5496]

+logan t Club manufacturers are utterly naive if they think he won't just pick the clubs up from the 'hundreds' of contacts he has within UK golf. Time will tell if his reviews are worth anything in the future or not though given the atm perceived bias created by the cash splash.

[@jsteffen2709]

Will you ever talk about offsets? I currently have Nike covert 2.9 irons and the have a strong offset. I hook everything with my longer irons. About a 20 handicap. Drives are straight along with wedges

[@simongoodwin666]

When you do your full reviews can you compare them with the figures you got from the M1 and M2 previous models please Rick ?

[@ashtonmcculloch3786]

Would the M4 work as a driving iron like 3 iron so can it go low

[@keithwilliams453]

Hi Rick! I'm currently a 10hdcp. Playing TM 2016 M2 tour irons. Which irons in the TM line would be most comparable or an improvement? My "Quest" for 2018 is to get to mid single figures. Thank you for the continued, excellent content

[@granty1954]

Keith Williams stick with the irons you have and work harder on your game. The extra 19inches gained with these ain't gonna help over your own jacked up clubs.

[@rj.tv.007]

I have the m2 clubs, I love'em. However, I don't understand what is the point of the carbon fiber in the back

[@ewenjones1458]

The key to these videos, for me at least, is to help me narrow a choice for when I buy a new set. If you could add a small section to the video indicating what handicapper might look seriously at the set you review. Serious Golfer, Mid handicapper, and improver golfer would be enough, or give a range. I will only change my irons every 10 to 15 years, with the cost being the major reason I hang onto my clubs.

[@markbrook4697]

I would love to see some shots into the wind and see if you can flight these down

[@terryjohnson3279]

I just started playing the P790, would like to see how the M3 stacks up against it.

[@connormarler1698]

Due to the m3 being more of a game improvement iron, you'll probably see a bit more forgiveness and a tad more distance, with a little less workability and not as nice sound or feel.

[@andrewmcrae4611]

Agree they look better than last year's model, but that's a lot of money. Will be interesting to see how spin/distance compare to last year's model or even the RSI (if it is possible to make a fair comparison with loft changes) Just had a look on the TM site. If you were to get all M4 irons (4-LW) that's 10 irons. Add a putter and you have 11 clubs. How do you reasonably fit 3 clubs above the 19 degree 4 iron to make up 14 clubs?

[@brandonconn6780]

I tried the m4 irons out. It felt like I was swinging a plastic clubhead. When I made contact, the sound of the ball sounded like someone clicking their tongue. On top of that, they are horribly inconsistent and I got the least distance out of the four irons I tried.

[@PaulHipToBeSquareAllen]

Yehhh... it’s the clubs that are horribly inconsistent... or maybe its person swinging them.

[@robertlawrence5490]

Please do a side by side with the old and new respective irons i.e m1 m3 and m2-m4 thanks