New Tenants Deserve A Clean Rental Property

[@sportaholic4482]

I think edging makes the biggest difference in the appearance of a yard. It makes it look very neat and well kept.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Completely agree! Thank you for watching! :)

[@Andee_fg4]

Not like thats wat its for or anything

[@cship1110]

It also kills the grass faster then anything else. Separating the grass from the concrete. There’s a angle called 90, you can knock the grass off the sidewalk without putting a inch ugly gap between the two.

[@xmr_lemons7506]

Not everything needs an edge, and not everything looks good with an edge, so no, your statement isn’t entirely accurate. Thanks for playing though

[@luka3532]

@@xmr_lemons7506 damn you seem really pissed off for some reason. Someone piss in your coffee this morning?

[@whataderk]

I grew up poor so I never had a lawn to care for and would see tv dads act like it was the best thing ever. But now that I own my own home and cut my own lawn, I can honestly say I see why now. It’s so therapeutic and nice to look at after it’s all said and done.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You sepak the truth, thanks for watching!

[@tyrell5755]

I grew up poor to 😎 ima section 8 baby killing roaches everyday 💯

[@unapologeticallyme8513]

Edging makes a world of difference I hate when people skip it

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I have to agree, it is the icing on the cake!

[@readytokill123]

The best thing about edging is that even tho the grass is long after the edging it still looks good.

[@idkwuisp7626]

Nah i think it just hurts alot

[@Liam_football]

Agreed but I use my strummer and like tilt it so it gets the edges of you should try

[@zanethekeymasterr]

@@ΓιώργοςΘανασάκης do you have a weed eater?

[@Cjrm3gtr]

Some light pressure washing would be amazing

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Completely agree!

[@MildredCady]

Definitely; for the house and the pavement!

[@chaotic476]

**Agreed**

[@fuckyeaHTX]

Yes and a new fence! That’s such a nice big yard

[@AmandaIsAwesome]

@@fuckyeaHTX yes! Or a hydrogen peroxide treatment of that fence would make a big difference!!

[@ELGUAPOIV]

I used to male fun of my uncle because he found lawn care interesting. Now I find myself 4 videos deep into watching people cut grass. I am officially old now.

[@whatadork4975]

Imagine the lawn mower actually going that fast

[@CopperCreekCuts]

That would be awesome!

[@atomicbogator6799]

Imagine the cars going that fast

[@GsL2I0B0R0A]

Gotta install a turbo in that engine lol

[@experimental561]

I wish! I used to do this kind of work and it’s not easy. Especially in Florida heat lol.

[@FishFind3000]

Scag cheetah or bobcat predator pro 7000. Put them in second gear and try. Probably won’t look good but you can still go up to 18mph!

[@bambino100011]

There is something so satisfying about seeing a yard trimmed and cleaned up.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I have to agree! Thanks for watching!

[@megel3991]

This guy actually responds to every comment. What a champ

[@karinamercado6660]

You know you’re getting old when things like this make you happy lmao

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Uh-oh, I don't want to know what that says about me if I filmed it!

[@SalTheSlime.]

OH NO! IM ONLY 18!!!

[@rhi2021]

I’m 22.....

[@mariaswazi1766]

im 23...damn

[@lazy_panda8771]

I'm 20😂😂😂😂

[@senraj2666]

Just watching this gives me peace of mind , I luv doing my lawn too n have a beer after it’s done , so satisfying

[@PMTLynch]

These videos lower my blood pressure. FACT!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, and no copay either, a win-win!

[@FishFind3000]

Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care I think the co pay would be the ads

[@PMTLynch]

@@FishFind3000 🤣🤣🤣

[@BharaniNath]

Feels peaceful

[@lorenagonzalez5226]

Hey men I know nothing about lawn care but I enjoy watching your videos, they are so satisfying.

[@christopherjackson7359]

I own a few mowing businesses as well and like how you use a string trimmer or "weedeater" properly. The heads spin and pull grass away. Most make the mistake of walking forward and making a mess Walk backwards and the line pulls the mess away from structures and fences. This guy knows what he is doing and its obvious. Hard to train a new weedeater guy and show them not only how to clean and pull the grass away but clear before a mower runs over it . My guys can weedeat and be done well before a mower runs because they know what a mower can hit and clean out accordingly. Good job man. Like your channel

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I really appreciate the kind words! Thank you for them and for watching!

[@buckshot170]

But couldn't you just face the other direction and come at the other angle?

[@pgdmed]

I just love the sound of the mower, you don’t need music.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Glad to hear, and thank you for the feedback!

[@lemonacai4876]

I kind of like the music!

[@Brian3779]

Best dressed guy in Lawn Care.

[@themagneticheartradioshow9372]

Brian Melany 💯💯😂

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, thank you, I will accept that moniker and wear it proudly! ;)

[@naryah22]

For real, after work he can continue to any restaurant or mall.

[@cruz_inc0814]

Omg I was thinking the same thing haha that’s funny.

[@joannbowman7651]

A good trimming of that beautiful tree in the backyard would be wonderful to see too.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Very true, but as a rental only the needed work gets paid for! :(

[@Jay-323]

I usually keep my mower at this speed I run through about 30 properties a day.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, very nice! :D

[@matttucker6940]

Whenever I want to watch lawn or yard maintenance, I find myself searching specifically for your channel

[@BraiytryeneGibbons]

.Now to replace that nasty fence those people have

[@CopperCreekCuts]

It's a rental, I doubt the owner is replacing that fence til it decomposes.

[@vince2997]

Very interesting vids man. I’ll admit, watching your videos even helps me with techniques in my own yard. After watching a few, I went out and bought an edger and did my own.

[@SimplyTomasTheCollection]

Your videos have been the highlight of my quarantine. Thank you, sir!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, I am really thrilled to hear that! Thank you! :)

[@superiorslush5147]

I work landscape maintenance, mowing for like 90 hours a week but I still watch these kinds of videos

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I appreciate that! :D Thank you!

[@shanemoye7808]

I'm new here. Never thought I'd take intrest in law care. But watching a master of a craft is always satisfying.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I wouldn't call myself a master, but I do appreciate you watching! :D

[@erniec1174]

I just wasted 14mins watching you cut grass..and I couldn’t be more satisfied! Love vids. Especially the pressure washing!! Keep me coming

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, I am glad to hear it! I thought this comment was going another way at first! :D

[@luisgalic6581]

This is one of the most satisfying things that I have seen in my life

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I am glad to hear it! Thank you for giving my channel a shot!

[@adavazquez3378]

I like your channel, you work fast and do a good job unlike others that spend most of the time advertising themselves, talking for too long and it gets BORING.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I appreciate that!

[@theerascal8050]

Why does fast forward make everything comical. Tht was a ridiculous amount of sprinkler heads for an empty bed lol.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You aren't kidding. Best watered patch of dirt in the world.

[@ABetterLifeInc]

Can’t forget about the ppppp-perimeter.

[@guhrizzlybaire]

That’s how my home is and our grass is a swamp, if you stand in one place you’ll sink

[@geekchick4859]

Number of heads. You can count them, it’s a discrete variable so you use number not amount.

[@KawaiiStarFairy]

Gives me a false perception of how easy it is

[@Mike14x]

I thought I was the only one with a weird addiction to cutting lawns. But seeing this have nearly a million views makes me feel better lol.

[@timandes4114]

You may also be interested in this KZbin Channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGGnY4aKraekfac

[@vickievictorious7003]

Maybe I'm simple but, the most soothing thing in the world for some reason is watching the videos speeding & you flying across an overgrown yard putting everything back in a nice & orderly way. 🤗 #Hugs2yu

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I am so thrilled to hear that you don't even know! :) Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@bsoutdoors5895]

I like time lapse mowing videos. Gives a satisfying 10 to 15 min of my day

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Very glad to hear it, thanks for watching!

[@Sacrosanctity451]

I think all ants deserve a nice lawn not just the new ten ants. Nice vid.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

XD

[@exodus6559]

I dont know why, but i find watching your videos is so satisfying... Greetings from switzerland

[@ButacuPpucatuB]

I love that the lawn is all grass!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Made it simpler to work on for sure!

[@lensofeli1762]

I love how at the beginning you are like gotta beat the rain it's sprinkling then it got sunny!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, quote was day one, actual work was day one + something! :D

[@lensofeli1762]

Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care oh okay makes more sense !! that would have been an extreme change of weather lol

[@wizardwrecks8492]

Edging is so satisfying! That concrete hasn't been edge in at least year probably more.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I am glad you enjoyed it!

[@kakaali4639]

tاڤنس‌ێو

[@kakaali4639]

یینیسنئ😪😯😪😀😐😯😐😐😯😐😐

[@scotwally]

Very nice job edging. I charge extra for cutting sod. I had one customer follow me around and collect what I'd edged to patch some bare spots in his yard. Thanks again for taking the time to make these videos.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

LOL Too funny. That is a good use for it! ;)

[@MrCynan4812]

Something about putting a semblance of order to disorder soothes me, thank you.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You are very welcome! Thank YOU for watching and commenting!

[@paulamariabarwick8817]

Amazing job.. so perfect on the edging makes all the difference! So therapeutic watching you at work!👌

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@MommaRaver]

OMG ~ you made that backyard look amazing just by mowing & trimming. I need that yard for my dogs~!!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you for the kind words! It is a great backyard!

[@leonardomigot4165]

@@CopperCreekCuts have need a help for cut this lawn

[@joseg2477]

dogs deserve to be in a cage

[@faustie8996]

strictly only brothers so your stupid?

[@midnight_commander]

Man what makes a yard especially good looking is that clean edge. Nice work man.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Yes it does! Thank you for the kind words!

[@averagejoe8889]

Does anyone else watch this and say to yourself “get that spot! You missed that spot!” And then when he gets it your whole body is just like “YAAAAAAAASSSSS” 🤤 or is it just me?

[@shanedulchan3445]

I do the same

[@joshwestbrook2157]

Your videos fill me with anxiety and then immediately relieve the anxiety. Thanks, I think....

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, I am glad to hear it!

[@monteejenkins1704]

This was pretty interesting to watch because I like tall grass a lot and I prefer overgrown, but it makes sense to have a tidy lawn if you're in a heavy neighborhood

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Agreed! Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@mirandasanchez823]

How tall of grass do u prefer?

[@timandes4114]

Here is a video on mowing overgrown lawns: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioLKnIeQetaZZsU

[@SalTheSlime.]

I can smell the freshly cut grass from here, and it’s January..... in Canada...... ... and well you know the rest...

[@trimmerqueen4206]

This video was oddly satisfying to watch. Great job!!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you, I appreciate it!

[@TexasRose50]

Nice to wake up on my birthday and finding a new video! Thanks Brad!!! Enjoyed it thoroughly! 👍🏻😃

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You are so welcome, thank you for always watching! :)

[@TexasRose50]

You are always so welcome. Just make sure it's not too long inbetween videos. I have a habit of getting withdrawals. ;) take care. :)

[@Trilldill]

Being a landscaper I know that's a lot of damn edging

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, you hit the nail on the head! XD

[@stonecold7919]

I don't know about anyone else, but when I mow the lawn first, edging takes much less time.

[@brett9121]

@@stonecold7919 Can't mow grass that's overgrown the cement by nearly 8" in spots.

[@jettfindley2444]

@glide2fly yeah especially when the lawn crew before them didn’t even try to show the edge

[@midnitesubaru]

This is a very satisfying video and so cool to watch you cut ...i thought you were only able to get a 32 in there . Great vid.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Nope, big gate on this one.

[@Eliieliasxo]

Idk why but it’s hilarious to me seeing him spin around 😂

[@CopperCreekCuts]

As long as you enjoyed watching! Thanks for the comment! :)

[@CERTIFIEDLANECLUB]

Haha girls laugh at anything

[@carolinacoreas7716]

@@CERTIFIEDLANECLUB ?

[@JoseAguilar-wn7kd]

Main reason I love working in landscape maintenance is houses like these. Nice pay and satisfying results!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Same here, thanks for watching!

[@Tyler-dn8wn]

Great work as always!! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I appreciate it, thank you! :)

[@carolhankins5896]

The edging is so nice. It makes a big difference in the look of the yard. It doesn’t take much time to do if you don’t let it get overgrown. I don’t have a weed eater to do that but I do have grass clippers that I use to trim around everything.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I agree, edging is the icing on the cake!

[@amyjacobs9945]

My mom said “I can’t deal with an edger, give me scissors ✂️. TFS

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, poor thing would be there forever!

[@lilmommalady76]

I use a manual rotary (wheel) edger sometimes. Makes the lawn look like it was cut with garden shears/scissors. It does take forever but the yard looks so good 😌

[@ounkpunk5099]

Literally thought my mama was the only one to do that!!

[@naryah22]

Great video, like the speed and to see how it takes shape and form is very satisfying.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you for the feedback and for watching! :)

[@heleenabatts9413]

Just missing the delightful smell involved

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Nothing like fresh cut grass! :)

[@JonttuzTV]

And 2stroke smell

[@georgemyers6518]

Great video and great job on that property.big before and after contrast.that edging was insane but definitely a lot of fun making that huge difference in it

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You speak the truth. My back was aching! :)

[@tinydancer7426]

Oh, if only we could trim our yards that fast in reality. My mom always loved to run her movies on dvd because it gave her a good laugh to watch the people moving fast. Good entertainment for a 93 year old lady who loved to laugh at the absurdities in/of life.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, too funny! Thanks for watching!

[@sharongraham512]

I enjoyed this. I love beautiful gardens, but it is such hard work to keep them in good order.x

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Yes they are! Thank you so much for watching and commenting!

[@RedRockMaintenance]

I think a chain saw would have been a better choice to edge that out. LOL. Good job Brad.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

LOL I needed an @georipper for sure!

[@thejudgefrom69]

I got really lucky this summer I got to work during mowing season and I was a weed wacker guy and as a15 y/o I was making good money and was good at what I did (I used blowers too at the end of a lawn cut) we used redmax ebz8500’s and SRM 2620T’s my top choice weed wacker that my boss let me have one of his older ones since he got a new one. I fixed the top end up and the thing runs like a new out of the box wacker. Very greatful of my dads best friend who hired me!

[@andysimmons1842]

I would love one of those edgers! I have to do the same thing with a string trimmer up to 18 yards a day!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Bladed edger all the way (for me)!

[@KoolKoru]

Best video so far! Nice tight camera shots and got the wicked speed on it. I really enjoyed it.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate that! :)

[@TheBlueBunnyKen]

Next up: pressure washing the dirty spots on/around the house and the driveway

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I wish I could! Since this is a rental most of my add-ons got denied.

[@shawneeheltsley8534]

Awesome job-you're not kidding when u said 6 inches on the edging lol. I love to see a yard looking so nice

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, I could have used it as sod! :D

[@scottwiley8547]

This year I’m asking Santa Clause for a new lawn mower like the green one you have. It looks incredible and I really want one. 🎄

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@simonsienna]

I always enjoy watching the Lawn Master at work! 😎

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Lawn Master? Who's channel were you watching? ;)

[@simonsienna]

Copper Creek Cuts, of course!

[@maddog1741]

This guy has the fastest leg I have ever seen...

[@CopperCreekCuts]

XD Too funny!

[@JonBecker81]

I’ve said this before but I’ll say it again, this really makes me want to let my yard grow out of control so I can have the fun of cleaning it back up. If I wasn’t so OCD about it maybe I could do that.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

It is extremely satisfying though! ;)

[@shirleyqualls8036]

Wow, that yard looks so nice, and that was an awfully big backyard. You were working so fast I thought it was two or three of you Lol 😂😂 😂😂😂😂

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, don't I wish, that would make jobs go quicker! :)

[@kennethhume8628]

Another excellent video , helps to keep me amused whilst self isolating due to the Corona virus . Take care yourself Brad .

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you, you do the same! :)

[@latisaallen4257]

Driveway, fence and house needs pressure washed....then it will be suitable on the outside. Im hoping more care went into maintaining the inside because that outside would cause me to keep driving by.. nice yard or not

[@millyt8612]

I was about to comment that it just needs a pressure wash now.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

It is just a rental property, so the owners don't actually care like someone who owned AND lived there.

[@latisaallen4257]

@@CopperCreekCuts thats very unfortunate. You sir did an amazing job of improving the curb appeal. Hopefully the owners see these comments and show pride in ownership.

[@harrietcarpenter2387]

U have pride in ur work!! ☺

[@cassidywest5539]

'Edging is gonna take a little while' Me: oh yeah, give it to me! I like it long and uncut ;) EDIT: What? No blowing? How dare you, sir? ;)

[@CopperCreekCuts]

XD Maybe the next video will match all your needs!

[@popeyehijoesu]

Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care lol

[@timdaugherty5921]

Well done chap! I love watching these!! Such fun!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I appreciate that, thank you! :)

[@kylekelly4648]

Wasn’t too bad! You finished it in 14 minutes. 😂

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, respectable time!

[@Emmaslaysinroblox2.0]

Watching you weed eat is so satisfying. My landscaper always goes to the dirt around my fence and I tell him all the time that he shouldn’t go so low. So it looks like I did round up on it when it is just the idiot weedeating. Lol. Great job!

[@LLOOYYYDD]

*He needs to dub in the Benny Hill music when he's mowing lol*

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, if it wasn't a copyright issue I would! :D

[@gordd7348]

Nice job. The backyard is massive.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

It was a great size for sure! Thanks for watching!

[@adrienvaquera2319]

Why am I watching someone mow a lawn?

[@CopperCreekCuts]

No judgement from me, I appreciate the view!

[@scatpack_2242]

KZbin recommended thats why 5th video in a row for now reason

[@danielburd9989]

The road in front looks like the Autobahn. The cars are hauling!!! Excellent video and commentary as usual.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

LOL I was pretty nervous. I think in one scene you see my head pivoting like a bobble head!

[@SAHamel_]

I mow my 2.5 acre yard myself. It has buildings, trees, landscaped areas, the State Highway ditch line, 2 driveways, sidewalks, etc., to trim around. My John Deere does the mowing but I have always done all this trimming with a push mower. I have been watching your videos now for a few months and I am almost convinced I need a string trimmer. Are they hard to use ? I have seen wooden fence posts almost whipped away by string trimmers at nearby farm. I wouldn't tolerate that nor do I want to rip the bark off trees. Sooo, would appreciate tips!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

String trimmers have a learning curve, but aren't hard to use. You will have to develop a 'feel' for where the end of the string is, which can be a delicate task. You will also find that most wood can take some abuse. You won't cut it in half the first time you touch it. You may also look into products like Fence Armor if you are overly concerned about it. Thanks for watching, great questions!

[@Pinkhtx10]

I love the size of that back yard! Great job btw!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

I know, right? If I had that much space I would get a dozen or so fruit trees and make a mini orchard!

[@griffon3226]

Man looks like the landlord of this property doesn’t really take care of anything. Anyways though great work!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Down here generally lawn care is the tenant's responsibility, but I kind of agree on things like the fence or concrete. Still, I see their side as well. It probably won't bring in enough money to justify the work, so why do it? Thanks for watching!

[@kevinbaumhardt2548]

Thank you to all the lawn care professionals out there blowing grass into the condenser. Keeps us HVAC guys busy with cleaning them🤣🤣🤣

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, a prime example of business making business!

[@mirelamusic3812]

this makes me want to mow my lawn

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Hope you got it done and enjoyed it! ;)

[@legioncollector4218]

You are one of my favorite lawn care guys

[@CopperCreekCuts]

That is a very kind and humbling thing to say. Thank you very much!

[@ajamesc55]

Why do the pro's edge and trim first instead of mowing, I've always mowed first then trimmed last to have less trimming to do. Is there a reason for it since all the pro's do it.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Here's why I edge first, and right after that part is why I trim before mowing: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnayd5iGobeAhqc

[@stonecold7919]

I do the same... I mow first, which takes a lot of time off of edging. But I'll check out his link and see it it works for me.

[@jettfindley2444]

So you wanna edge and trim first so you get that dirt and grime out of the edges and stuff and then you wanna blow it into the grass only if it’s really bad so you can then bag it.

[@juliuslemeki3835]

So satisfying to watch and amazing end result

[@Gothhana]

I'm not sure why it's so funny to me, watching someone hedge and zoom around on a lawnmower, but it is. This does turn out amazing, but lowkey had the giggles watching the video.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, love it! Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@lisahidalgo3851]

Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care please

[@katelyndryer8533]

nothing more satisfying than a job well done. :)

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you for watching, I hope you enjoyed it! :D

[@blackops2legend253]

Welcome back to another episode of why this was in my recommended

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thanks for giving it a shot!

[@blackops2legend253]

Copper Creek Cuts Lawn Care no problem!

[@smitttty]

glad I found your channel, all the way down in Naples!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@MissSugarland4Ever]

It's like you say "NO weeds you shall not pass" you cut them down like they are nothing. This is also ky favorite speed the video is done in.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

LOL I guess my string trimmer is Glamdring (Gandalf's sword in case you aren't WAY too invested in LOTR)

[@violetgypsie]

Nice job. House looks like it could use a power wash too.

[@JoKeR-ru5dk]

Damn he can move!!! Zoom zoom!!!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Wish it were that fast in real life! :)

[@amineazzamouri6588]

Never seen a person ride a lawnmower I love it.

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Haha, thanks for watching and commenting! Glad you liked it!

[@TNsher776]

I'm out on edging that concrete like that! I would've just mowed it!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Yeah, edging takes a long time but makes a huge difference versus mowing alone. Thanks for watching!

[@gman8260]

Love the optional "foot edger" attachment!!!

[@CopperCreekCuts]

LOL Now you know why my boots always fail in the toe first! ;)

[@dukebluedevil9737]

I wish weedeating actually took as short of an amount of time as it did in the video

[@CopperCreekCuts]

You and me both!

[@juanhilario3]

Great video . Edging gives it that beautiful touch. I work for a landscaping company and we cut cemetery’s and I feel like cutting houses is easier but more stressful because it has to be perfect and done . It dosent Mater at cemetery

[@CopperCreekCuts]

Thank you for the kind words, they are much appreciated! I bet that is a different job to have!