New Tesla Model 3 Long Range 10% Road Trip EV Challenge! Here's How Far You Can Go Between Chargers

Kyle takes the new Refresh Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor Long Range 19" wheel optioned car on our 10% EV road trip simulation challenge to see how good of a road tripper this car is.
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[@bernhardleopold6702]

The charging curve seems to be the LG 5L 79 kWh battery pack we are getting in Europe since a few years. This is definitely charging slower than the Panasonic 82 kWh pack from the new Model 3 Performance, and much slower than the old 75 kWh Panasonic pack from the classic Model 3 2017 to 2020.

[@yurymol]

Once again, I'm happy a bought an older M3 LR. Turns out in addition to the USS I have a a better battery :)

[@EthanHooley]

my new model 3 LR (built in shanghai) uses a LG 79kwh battery pack i believe. it charges up to 256kw and tapers around 30%ish most of the time. but sometimes it caps around 200kw even 170kw with battery pack fully preconditioned, tried a couple of v3 superchargers in shanghai here all behaved the same. probably some firmware issue there.

[@renebergqvist599]

My 2019 LR awd (Freemont Panasonic) charges faster than this....... Disappointing

[@mrrkrr]

Out of Spec doing such a public service with all these tests... thanks guys! 🙏

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

109% 👍❤️🔥🏆🏆🏆

[@gravitas51]

"I hope Tesla takes charging seriously in 2024!" Tesla in 2024: Lays off the charging department.

[@rosmarin2438]

They weren’t building fast enough

[@newjdm]

First thing I thought too

[@The-Rest-of-Us]

Sounds like they *are* taking it seriously (the old team clearly didn’t deliver…)

[@robgeach8105]

@@The-Rest-of-Us I understand this is likely the ravings of a lunatic stockholder, but no copium on the planet should allow your mind to accept an argument that any concept "being taken seriously" results in deleting your old team before you have a new team in place. You show seriousness by incorporating continuity. The only thing serious about laying off the supercharger team is musk personally reaching for his tesla billions to cover his X disaster.

[@The-Rest-of-Us]

@@robgeach8105 👍🏼

[@pdculbert]

Thanks, Andy!

[@DouglasJMark]

Love the wheels you chose.

[@GraysonCarr]

Phew… feeling pretty good about my 2023 RWD 😊. I’ve always felt that even though it has low peak speeds, its insane efficiency and decent curve make it a great road tripper. It barely slows my family down at all compared to ICE and is usually ready to continue the trip before us when we stop to charge.

[@zguy95135]

0-60% in about 13 minutes and to 80% in ~23 mins. It charges so fast

[@Usedcars1st]

Thanks Andy!

[@PeterNXavier]

The battery is the LG, which has not been a great charging battery compared to the Panasonic.

[@pqvid]

I thought US made cars would still have Panasonic batteries? If not, then yes, LG has been a downgrade, actually.

[@MarsPLAYStudio]

@@pqvid Looks like starting with the new Model 3 refresh, they start using LG

[@Mr21December2012]

My 2019 LR with Panasonic cells is still the fastest charging Model 3… quite odd indeed that Tesla did not improved charging time but instead worsen it

[@user-gx1uj1lt9b]

@@pqvid Nope. 2024 M3 get LG which is why they lose the tax credit. Tesla is saving the limited production of US Panasonic batteries for the Y and M3P. I'm not sure what they will do to throttle demand now that it seems everyone is switching their M3 LR orders to the M3P. Maybe another price bump to kick the M3P out of tax credit category until supply balances.

[@yurymol]

@@Mr21December2012 And it still doesn't feel like enough, does it? I have the same one.

[@radcpuman]

My new 2024 Austin built long range Model Y only charges at 250kw for just a minute or 2. My 2019 long range Model 3 holds 250kw for several minutes.

[@SpottedSharks]

I did this test on my 2022 LR Model 3 with 18" wheels last summer in FL. I got peak charging speeds and it added 36 kwh in 15 minutes. I drove 121 miles at 80 mph to get it back down to 10%.

[@rosmarin2438]

So about 240 mile real world

[@bigpoppa4094]

What about if you went 65 mph? How many miles would you get ?

[@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiry]

​@@bigpoppa4094 According to these nuts, 65MPH on a road trip isn't reasonable...🙄

[@tazeat]

​@@BenefitOfTheDoubtInquiryit just depends where, in the mountain west, it's definitely slow when speed limits are 75 ±

[@TheMan-jz5te]

​@@bigpoppa4094with this speed in Germany Cars will pass you like gunshots

[@brandenflasch]

Somehow I got a better result in the Model Y RWD (without software unlock for full pack)? This is quite surprising.

[@badtoro]

You’re trying too hard. I see you posting all over social media. Your posts and empty nonsense just to get your post count up. Try meaningful replies. Oh by the way, thanks for stopping to pronounce city names since that has always been an issue.

[@bsaxman2012]

Panasonic 2170s? Per Troy Teslike's Sep 13, 2023 X/Twitter post, the Austin-built Ys use Panasonic. That may explain the charging speed variance if Kyle/Andy's M3 uses LG 2170s.

[@brandenflasch]

@@bsaxman2012yes

[@rosmarin2438]

Panasonic FTW

[@garyprice1145]

Gotta love the RWD Model Y!

[@patrickhornacek8593]

Must be the new battery. Maybe still playing it safe as they collect data. My 2023 model Y LR consistently charges at 250kw up to roughly 28% before starting to taper.

[@leanderzulu3494]

Hmmm. My Austin built 2023 MYLR starts to taper from 250 kW around 18%

[@sprockkets]

What new battery?

[@patrickhornacek8593]

@@sprockketsthere are some saying it’s an LG pack, not the Panasonic pack.

[@patrickhornacek8593]

@@leanderzulu3494yes, you’re correct. 18% it falls off from 250kw, and mine stays above 200kw until around 28%. Sorry, typing too fast.

[@OntheMarkEV]

2024 M3 LR is using LG battery pack which I believe is 79kwh and should have 250kw peak charge rate according to Tesla site. 2023 M3 RWD uses CATL 60kwh battery pack. Tesla Model Y and Model 3 performance are using Panasonic 82kwh pack made in Nevada. Both my M3 Performance MY LR have better charging performance than the LG pack and will pull 250kw from about 10-25% before starting to taper and usually still pulling 115kw at 50%. While it’s still decent charging, I agree that Tesla needs to improve the charge curve.

[@mjbates]

my 2023 Model 3 RWD LFP is only rated for 175kw. It'll get 200 right at the beginning, but quickly drops just like yours. maybe similar battery?

[@whatsay8406]

My M3P 2023 does the same thing when charging. I’ve only tried supercharging 3 times but even with warm weather, preconditioning, and below 30% soc, it wouldn’t go above 130 kw at a 250kw charger. It dropped to around 92 kw after about 6 min.

[@LearningFast]

I have a 2022 Model 3 Performance on 20” Aero wheels and the ultra efficient 235/35/20 Hankook iON EVO AS tires. I will run this test on it this week and see how it compares.

[@LearningFast]

324 wh/mi is just terrible even at 80 mph. What tires were on that car? Tires can make a difference but it usually doesn’t help as much at higher speeds.

[@joshuasmith7369]

Question: Do you have any friends in the video game arena? Could you, Would you ask one of them to make an "Out of Spec racing game" based on ones y'all have already done. On PS4 or laptop computer? I would buy the game if you had it made.

[@GraysonCarr]

Even Tesla tells you that this wheel and tire package is very inefficient. It’s rated for 305 miles with these wheels, but 341 miles with the 18” aero wheel and tire package. That’s an 11% hit just from wheels and tires, and according to those numbers, the car might be able to do 290 Wh/mi at 80 with the aeros.

[@pvic6959]

is there a video like this for the 2024 Model 3 *RWD*? I got one a month ago and am planning a road trip in a few months

[@Gweeper64]

I've been thinking about this today after watching Brandon's 2024 MY video and now this. I think when looking at charging curve graphs, you should normalize the X axis to raw kWh and not percentages. Percentages are misleading. That's why marketing loves them.

[@stevenhe314]

they should include the most important number, efficiency, kw/wh, in that graph to be fair

[@NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM]

What sucks here is Tesla really hasn’t changed their battery charge rates on M3 since release in 2018.

[@Lost_In_LA]

Great video. I would like a test against a completely different charging station to rule out the grid location (I understand you tested different stalls). Next I would like to see results from another person's M3LR to make sure it isn't something isolated to this single instance.

[@ThomasSlaney]

So glad my 2023 YLR doesnt have the new 4680 battery: a gift for shareholders, not for owners.

[@John__Doe__]

VIN doesn't start with LRW (built at Giga Shanghai). LRW uses LG. How to know if this car has the LG pack?

[@BerndHahn]

Yep, the LG 5L pack charging curve really disappoints. Actually that's what is currently holding me back from ordering the new (Shanghai built) M3P here in Germany as it also comes with this lame LG pack instead of the 82kWh Panasonic pack of the Freemont built cars. 🙁

[@s3venvii]

I had similarly less than great experience charging at that Buc-ee's(not getting max) two different times.

[@BrianNedry]

Tesla as fallen behind in charging speeds, like you said Kyle. Like the charging speed are okay but definitely not class leading, gotta wonder if this was part of the reason Tesla charger team got let go. Tesla could really use that Catl fast charging collaboration to bear fruit quickly. While I'm looking to buy the new model 3 performance or the Juniper Model Y, I wanna wait for the faster charging batteries to be put into all new Tesla vehicles, sure I'm not the only one that is waiting.

[@JensDittrich]

Well, that cgarging behaviour is common for Model3 and Y in Europe for 3 years now. They are getting worse and worse in charging performance. 10%-80% was 20 minutes in 2019 models. 2021 with 3L batteries it dipped down to 25 minutes and now with LG it is 27minutes at best.

[@Mr21December2012]

Yep, quite happy with my M3 LR 2019 with the good Panasonic cells, it still charges like a beast. Had a 2022 MY LR rental and was disappointed with the charging speed…

[@THEZEST1357]

I wonder if this has the LG Chem pack? The LG packs are horribly slow in comparison to the Panasonic packs. But the upside is that rhey also tend to degrade a fair bit slower.

[@Marco-ce8kr]

One thing. If you analyze these results statistically, I think there won't be any difference among some groups of cars e.g. 106 will be basically the same as 109 and 98. Of course it will be difficult to test 4 or more cars under the same conditions, the same day.

[@here2enjoy-bt8jq]

26:00 can you add ioniq 5 to the list as well? Both 20" and 19" ones.

[@henrikfaurhj525]

Thanks for another great video. Again I learned something new by watching these videos. I have always wondered if you could switch off the fan on one side or the other in the front seats. Sometimes my passenger wants the fan turned on and I don't want it in my driver's side. And now I just leaned to hold the fan on the screen to turn it off. Thx Im still a noob and learning from each video lol (from a Model 3 LR Highland owner)

[@oj9886]

Also charging slows on the new y if you are watching you tube videos or air conditioning at a higher speed

[@Redball2Portofino]

Thank you Andy. Debating ordering this car so this was very insightful!!

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

I want 3 can’t afford 1

[@berthogendoorn2133]

My 2023 Model Y Fremont built will not start immediately at 255 under 10%, usually about 150kw till it hits 10%, or about 3 minutes depending on how much lower than 10% arrival at Supercharger.

[@AB78]

I took delivery of my refreshed M3 LR in March first EV. I absolutely love this car. It puts a smile on my face every time I go for a drive

[@amrindraouk3440]

Same man. I picked up mine in March too

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

👍

[@opinionator3884]

Yesterday in Cary, NC, I spotted a Model Y with the license plate WTHNSPEC. Clearly, you have a fan here!

[@vhol93]

Nice! Keep highland videos coming! Mega cool.

[@yuvalkapellner2551]

Did you check tyre pressure before starting the test? should be 42 min when cold if it was anything below it then it would affect range.

[@joeygarcia4277]

Glad youre bringing awareness to this. I too am disappointed they got rid of their charging team when i was expecting things like this to improve drastically...i want road trips to get a lot better for my tesla vs just being a great local vehicle in Idaho

[@TB-up4xi]

The charging team was not responsible for rate of charge which is a limitation of the car not the charger.

[@badbasic]

I just don't get people who think this is too slow, I just did a 2400 km road trip in Europe with my 2024 RWD M3, I never felt limited by charging time or the range, it was always wife's/kids bladder or hunger...

[@hieyeque1]

Need to ensure aero wheels or equivalent are installed, they affect the range by as much as 10%. If you'd had those on there, you might have done 110 miles and beat the M3 RWD. I have the 2023 RWD LFP, btw.

[@Noaixs]

Matrix LEDs also solve this Auto High Beam problem in the EU. I hope we will see an 800V system in the next Model 3 and Y in the future. The charging curve looks similar to that of my 2022 Model 3 LR with an LG battery.

[@adjust.clinic]

When do we get to see the refreshed Performance test drive? I want to know your impressions on handling and braking. World class this time, or no?

[@YeOldeTraveller]

Is there a link to the data?

[@TylerMarletteNY]

I’m really interested in external battery pack options, If I could put another 50KWH pack in my cargo trailer I could do all my towing with my model Y

[@jimstravels7903]

I’m mostly happy with my 23 RWD, but I plan on trading in to the new M3P. Not just the performance, but I’m into how much quieter it is and obviously the AWD for inclement weather.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

LG batteries just do not charge as quick as Panasonic but rumour has it less battery degradation than the Pan batteries.

[@jimbo4551]

I’ll take a slightly lower charging rate if it preserves the battery life. For a few extra minutes four or five times a year on road trips, it’s worth it to me.

[@kenwise2677]

The 15 minutes charging should include the handshake times for a typical accessible charger. The 6 seconds on a Tesla charger is part of the Tesla performance profile compared to the rigmarole of using non-Tesla chargers (subject to any deterioration now they've fired the SC team!)

[@GueramSoukiasian]

Hello, is it possible to have the data for the 10% challenge test for all the cars you did? In excel format? Maybe you have it in cloud so we can download it?

[@NicoSchurr]

Have you done a test on the consumption difference between no autopilot, basic/enhanced autopilot and FSD. I mean its quite a few cameras rolling plus a powerful computer. The impact would also be greater at low speeds

[@ichigo19870]

Can you make a comparison between USS and the terrible Vision Only system? It’s still so so bad imho.

[@JohnSanders1091]

I have a 2022 model 3 LR that charges exactly like this. When I bought it I figured it would have the 82kw Panasonic pack but the Tessie app shows it only had 79kwh new so now I think it has the LG pack. Only goes above 250kw under 10% and under 100ish kw at 50%. Very disappointed in charging speeds vs the older packs and even compared to the two model 3 rwd LFP cars I’ve driven. I was under the impression that all 2021 m3p, 2022 m3 LR and newer got the 82kwh Panasonic pack here in the US. What’s everyone’s experience with the Panasonic 82kwh charge curve??

[@barryfisher4734]

I've read that the models that have the Panasonic battery pack charge be than the LGs

[@andreatoffolo3488]

The LG batter pack i have here in italy on my 2021 m3LR has the same Charging curve. Cant stay at 250 over 10%. They Never improved that side, i would have really liked a bump on the Charging speed. Usually it stays under 150 on 35/36% and at 27/28% if u start at 3%.

[@MarsPLAYStudio]

It charges the same like my 2023 Model Y from the giga berlin. at 50 % not more than 110 kW and at 55 below 100 kW. Would like a 20 / 25 min 10-80 charging time. other than that i like my Model Y. Looks like it is the LG 5L battery. Powertrain / Battery basically not different than the Model Y or a Model 3 from 2017 other than a slower chargin battery.

[@EVPHASE]

Do we need to calibrate Tesla batterys, NMC

[@svetvn]

Can you please send a link to the statistics?

[@Justindoesminecraft1]

What’s the website so we can compare all your 10% challenges?

[@keatontaylor3612]

Similar charging curve on my model 3 highland LR AWD. I might be ~10kW higher at similar SoC levels. Looks like the LG pack does indeed charge more slowly.

[@ezra3735]

I thought I heard somewhere that the battery in the tax credit model 3 is different than the battery in the non-tax credit model 3.

[@Sadjina]

Chill mode may be more efficient than sport (or beyond) because it won't have to keep the battery warmer (cooler) for optimal performance. May not matter unless it's very cold though.

[@ouch1011]

Maybe on a M3P but not on a LR. Tesla doesn’t heat the battery to maintain baseline performance, my 22 M3LR routinely throttles performance in cold temps.

[@Sadjina]

@@ouch1011 ah right, that could be the case, yes. Thanks! 👍

[@douglasalanthompson]

Time to test the Leaf Plus on its last year of production

[@aakash1120]

what type of batteries do the new model 3s use? Is the RWD the only one with the LFP?

[@OhYaSure]

Yes

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Performance will do 255 from 10 to likely 38% I have the same Panasonic's and I love them for road tripping, even when pulling a small tent trailer.

[@dannyalas8087]

I drive one hour to work and one hour back, trying to get a Tesla M3 LR RWD, I won't have home charging because I live in Apt complex, my biggest worry is how often I will have to charge and how much time added to my already 2 hour of commute daily, any recommendations ?

[@BillB33525]

Using Public charging all the time might be more costly than gas depending on where you charge. Best to checkout the cost of charging before going BEV.

[@andr0373]

Thanks Andy, much appreciated. You the man.

[@thomasjacques5286]

Aren’t they “throttling” the CT’s new battery pack? There will probably be a SW update soon.

[@robertprocon]

what happened to the rest of the truck videos?

[@icy1007]

My 2024 Model 3 LR gets the full 250kW (~248kW) when supercharging at lower SOC.

[@williamradwanski1998]

What about the weight of the vehicles affecting range ? I would think a dual motor vs a single motor would have some effect on the weight.

[@ouch1011]

The weight makes basically no difference when driving at a steady speed on flat ground. Weight only makes a difference when accelerating (which includes climbing hills since you’re having to counteract gravity). The dual motor setup makes a difference in rolling resistance since you have to spin the front motor, hubs, axles, differential, etc, but it’s not really a substantial difference with the current drivetrains.

[@tylergood1223]

Tesla Model 3 RWD LFP (2023) did better at 106 miles! That is why this is one of the best road trip tests.

[@Mephistopheles13]

If you’re in Austin, Texas in the near future, you can review mine with the 18” photon wheels.

[@mkashay]

I have noticed whenever they release a new model, it charges slow. They usually bump up the speed on down the line.

[@sprockkets]

Bro they changed the bumper and headlamps plus some other elements. It's the same car otherwise lol 😂

[@arielspalter7425]

When you’re narrating during the drive you sounded like a sports game commentator 😅 great video 👍

[@georgepelton5645]

I agree “sitting at a charging station” for more than 15 minutes could be annoying. My question to all the “sitters” out there: what are you doing? I rarely sit for even one minute. I get out of the car and go to the restroom or to a restaurant to eat. The car is always sufficiently charged before I return, so I just leave.

[@deej628]

Watch KZbin? Catch up on work? Call a friend/family member? Play a game? There’s tons of things you could do to pass the time.

[@BillB33525]

We walk into the host store for a BR Break and Grab & Go counter which usually is a little more than 15 minutes. We drive CCS so our chargers are farther apart than Tesla SuC so we generally charge to 80% on our Q8 etron which gives us 200 miles @ 80MPH. With the wife along we drive with extra buffer to make sure we get to the next charger.

[@DouglasJMark]

Can you tell us if Tesla keeps their charging rates less to ensure their battery packs last long? I recall learning that their battery packs have less and less degradation and failure rates over the years. I wonder if the competitors have data like Tesla has? Thanks 🙏 PS Maybe Tom Moloughney at State of Charge knows?

[@newscoulomb3705]

Man, still waiting on the Silverado EV 10% Challenge numbers. As for the Highland's battery, it is possible that this is now running the NCMA cell chemistry that Tesla licensed from LG. If so, this could just be the initial, "good enough" charging profile before they fully unlock it. It's possible that the high-peak, steep-taper charging profile that Tesla has been using since the NCA days doesn't play well with the new chemistry, and they would instead be better off mimicking the charging profiles used in cars like E-GMP with a faster average charging speed (as opposed to the fastest possible peak).

[@CondoreComputing]

It would be a pleasant surprise if they did go NCMA if they can refine the curve, from what I've heard NMCA should have slightly better lifespan, micro-cracking resistance and slightly higher peak temp limits, s should have at least moderately better DCFS characteristics compared to the NCA chemistry's I had been reading about in 2021 at least.

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

One of many thorough informative excellent video u kick azs

[@tumbleweed1976]

In Los Angeles on every corner? Bit of a stretch observation for such a numbers driven channel. Anywho, thank you Andy 🎈

[@mullermeister]

Kinda crazy that tesla hasn't improved charging for the last 6 years.

[@beerman1957]

Guess you failed physics.

[@BBingo-v5i]

It really is crazy. Their models only have lower class specs nowadays when it's about range and charging speed, their interior design and infotainment system is cheap and outdated and the Tesla charging network does not even support 800V vehicles yet...

[@brandenflasch]

It’s gotten worse.

[@anthonyc8499]

​@@beerman1957 failed physics? What are you even talking about?

[@harmony3138]

And neither the looks! Dealbreaker for me is the looks of the Tesla, looking stale and boring now. It looks like a blob with ugly outdated tail lights. Tesla looks like an egg. Then u look at the interiors, and it's night and day compared to some other quality EVs. The tesla doesn’t even have a HUD or gauge clusters. What a boring cockpit to sit in. So plain Jane and no premium or special feeling.

[@ChicagoBob123]

Which ccs charger has tesla adapters?

[@arjunprabhu]

After charging and as you start to drive, wasn't the car still pre-conditioning since the designation was still set to supercharger?

[@xlargetophat]

Is this one a NMC?

[@TB-up4xi]

The tires are also all weather tires. A set of pure summer tires give better range as well.

[@sprockkets]

Um, why?

[@erikhendrix6186]

Ping me, got the Highland on the 18” wheels. Live close to your new fav supercharger.

[@DrEarbuds]

Nowhere in the East Coast we can do 80mph . This test doesn't represent half the country . Maybe Out of spec Dave can do the test at 65 mph

[@redstaper2414]

hogwash.

[@haanc2]

East Coast resident, and I do 80mph every day. Are you talking about road signs, or what people actually do?

[@MrJbart1981]

Something like 80% of the US has interstate speed limits of at least 70mph. If you don't think most people are going 80 in a 70 outside of congested city traffic? I think 80mph tests are very reasonable for the vast majority of viewers.

[@sprockkets]

Lol, I had to drive at 65mph to conserve range, and so did a random Rivian truck behind me 😅

[@NineTO]

My 2016 Model s 90D has a similar charging curve to this. Crazy!

[@hakis86]

Doesn't the old M3 RWD weigh less? So therefore more effecient? If long range versions have more weight because of the extra motor and bigger battery, then the LR has more weight it needs to move? Just a guess! :)

[@GraysonCarr]

Not much less… only about 200 lbs. But I think extra motor up front makes it a bit less efficient as well.

[@PeaceChanel]

Thank You Andy for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊

[@loriallen67]

Who is Andy?

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

13 : 44 early lunch sports were model 3 highland should have a M3P battery

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Early reports were

[@voldar70]

The LG battery in the LR is 78.8 kWh and is indeed charging slower but it performs better in cold weather than its counterpart from Panasonic. And it degrades slower than the Panasonic one. Just look up the Tesla sold in Europe with LG battery vs the ones sold in USA with Panasonic battery. Now, there is a trade off indeed (faster charging vs better longevity), but let’s face it, 100 miles at 80 mph in 15 minutes of charge is pretty good. Compare 3.09 mi/kWh (the result of this test) with 2.4 mi/kWh of the Taycan and you’ll understand why there isn’t yet any car in the price range and configuration that compares to a Tesla. 23% efficiency difference is like driving the Tesla in winter to match the Taycan efficiency in summer. And of course, the Taycan is more expensive by at least 23% than the Tesla LR. And one last note : 51F for LR testing vs 77F of the RWD LFP and latest MY is not a fair comparison. From my experience, it is about 9% less efficiency between the two temperatures, which would put the LR above the RWD at the same temperature (109 miles). And put the LR on par with the best charging Tesla : MY RWD with software limited battery.

[@BillB33525]

When temps dip below 70F most batteries start to lose range. Many cars also lose range when pushed to 80MPH, the M3 seems to hold it's efficiency at that speed. Great car for the money.

[@JamesJay2]

Weird that it’s topping out at 150 kw. My 2018 model 3 long range did 250. I rented a 2020 standard range and it topped out at 150. We sure this isn’t the standard range?

[@loganrossignol]

I would expect the M3P's battery to be the same as the MYP's current battery. For reference, I have a 2/24 build MYP and it's only slightly better charging than this.

[@TB-up4xi]

It's a pretty unequal test if you are pre-conditioning, many cars don't have this feature at all so they end up going further but would end up at the next charger with a theoretically poorer charging performance. The only way to get like for like would be to turn off pre-conditioning for all cars, that way they end up in the same charging condition.

[@christophemadeline9753]

Thanks Kyle and Andy

[@Floxol]

why did you put it in service mode ? what is the goal of that mode?

[@kekdogg]

Shows full charging details

[@daviidfm923]

Based on this test idk why you would pick this car over the rwd unless you want the speed or the awd.

[@alancobbin]

This is one I’ve been waiting for,still no Matrix headlights in the US?,thanks guys ,cheers Andy 👍💪😉

[@KyleConner]

Thanks for watching!

[@BillyONeal]

Has the regulation prohibiting them changed?

[@alancobbin]

@@BillyONealnot sure as I’m in Europe

[@elogedelaraisondure4984]

Strange charging curve... I own a standard range 2024 Model 3 (RWD) and I can get the specified charging power (175 kW) for a 10 to 20% SoC battery.

[@bsaxman2012]

Per Troy Teslike's Sep 13, 2023 X/Twitter post, Fremont MY LR/P use Panasonic 2170s. Fremont M3 LRs use LG 2170s. Austin-built MY LRs use Panasonic 2170s. I don't know the cell manufacturer for current MY RWDs. I wonder if Panasonic 2170s charge faster than LG?

[@BradC44]

Thanks Andy for your M3 loan.