NEW Tesla Model Y Juniper Has Battery Setback | Don’t Be Surprised

[@RyanShawtech]

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[@saulto]

The new Y should also have the acoustic glass for quiet interior like the 3 got

[@PMI551]

What’s the Juniper setback?

[@cuda426hemi]

won't use 4680s as promised 11:15 you deaf?

[@nakfan]

Sigh - wish Tesla would concentrate on improving stuff like standard autopilot, rain sensor, backup camera, 360 view, etc. There are so many fields where they still are in the lead, but the Germans, Chinese and Koreans are catching up…

[@whetwilly1]

Oh man, the rain sensing on my Model 3 is so random. It has to be the most frustrating aspect of an other wise great car.

[@ctuna2011]

The Model Y is generally brilliant but there are a few things that could be improved . Visibility to the rear is not good and the blind spot monitor doesn't flag a car till it's right behind your rear bumper . I adjusted my rear-view mirrors so I can see further back along the car. It could use a electronic rear view mirror. Yeah you can turn on all the camera's but the one on the trunk points to far down to be of much use. Another 100 miles of range would be good . Extendible thigh supports for the front seat the bench is to short for larger people to get comfortable.

[@BobbieGWhiz]

Not many people complain of the poor visibility of the Model Y’s rear window. That (and the much greater cost compared to my Model 3) were reasons I opted against it.

[@TrendyStone]

We have a 3 and Y and I haven’t experienced any problems with visibility. The auto-wipers are random though. It’s odd Tesla can’t figure that out. Every German car I’ve owned going back 15 years had auto-wipers that worked.

[@BobbieGWhiz]

@ That’s because your German cars and every other car with auto wipers uses a dedicated rain sensor. A cheap and reliable piece of tech.

[@jackcoats4146]

For the Juniper, I want to see bidirectional charging, even with the current battery.

[@mrmobius]

won't happen. Needs to be 800 volt architecture and that is a fundamental change not a refresh change. Cybertruck or Kia uses 800v and both can do bidirectional

[@abbcc555]

It has been tested that the hardware supports it. But it won't happen because Tesla has another gimmick for that, the powerwall.

[@justabrokeredneck]

@@abbcc555is that why the cybertruck can do it?

[@nicklaslindman6837]

Really, why?

[@Matzes]

​@@abbcc555a home battery is not "a gimmick"

[@Teddy_M85]

500-mile option with 400+ real world range would be EPIC.

[@frecklesx20]

What’s the setback

[@frankdelao4067]

The 48v system saves hundreds of dollars per vehicle. It uses ribbon cables instead of heavier gauge wires.

[@rogerfroud300]

Ribbon cables? I very much doubt it, that's not what I've seen in the videos. Hundreds of dollars is all very well, but it doesn't turn a £46Kcar into an affordable one.

[@Teddy_M85]

I don't see it happening until 2026. Post cybercab ramp.

[@joefalkner2368]

I gotta laugh ( at myself ). When I got my Model Y on February 5, 2021, I considered waiting for 4680s. I’m sure glad I didn’t.

[@Kingomé]

2 years ago at the end of the year the incentives were lovely. 2 years/10,000 miles free supercharging. $3750 off, even new orders placed in December. Then 2 months later I got a surprise check from Tesla for another $3800. Been zooming ever since!😂😅

[@Linkmarine3077]

Why did you get a surprise check?

[@andywurst4873]

I'm interested in the new windows for a quieter experience and a smoother ride. Also the AI5 board -- coming in the 2nd half of the year?

[@priusnv]

So we have SpaceX, Starlink, Teslabots, Gigawatt Powerwalls,….but I can’t get a bigger battery on my Tesla?

[@gregsutton2400]

you are conflating two things, changing the battery in the new model Y and it having to be the 4680. Most batteries used by Tesla are not made by them. The 4680 will likely stay in the Cyber Truck and the entering large scale production semi. That has really nothing to do with changing the batteries in the Juniper. They change battery suppliers and configs way more regularly then they change the over all design. Quite a wiff. Not saying that the batteries will change, but they are not constrained in the way you say. And the battery config in the Model 3 refresh is now 18 months old? So it is 24 month old tech? I would be more surprised if it was not changed.

[@Nathan-ty6fd]

There are many things that just seem odd with his argument. The 4680 will be way cheaper (especially after DBE) so why would Tesla not want to drive up their margins on their most produced car? They might not use the 4680 pack for all three trims at first but I could see them use it in one of them starting out and then quickly migrate all Model Y and 3 to it over 6 to 12 months. It's not like they haven't had mixed batteries types before. As far as 800v arch, I don't think there is anything preventing them from doing a split pack (like the CT) so you can charge at 800v and drive at 400v. This would allow the packs to be ready for a full 800v arch and allow a much easier cut over to a 800v power train. Also I keep hearing arguments that the model 3 and Model Y share x% of parts and making the upgrades wouldn't make sense because then the model 3 and Y loose part commonality... Which is true but we are seeing an obvious change and difference in the model Y at least externally... Furthermore if they aren't making the changes now WHEN??? WHEN???? There is never a perfect time to make those kind of massive changes on your 2 most popular products.... But they have to be made to stay competitive. Not to mention, it doesn't take this long to reimplementing the model 3 changes in the model Y. The seats are a drop in replacement, much of the interior is a drop in, probably all the improvement inefficiency (Electronics side) are drop in... I don't we'll find out 😂

[@Nathan-ty6fd]

It also doesn't make sense that Tesla would be investing in 800v charging at this particular moment if they arent expanding their line up of cars with 800v charging. It would give an obvious advantage to their competitors. The only Tesla owners who can take advantage are CT owners.... Which I don't think Tesla really would prioritize rolling out an all new charging infrastructure just for a few thousand CT owners

[@abebegirmay3327]

They might change producers of battery but the platform and battery type will be the same and it does make sense. In model 3 highland they kept the same battery and motor but changed exterior and interior to make the car more efficient which increase range, comfort and to some extent charging. I do think in their first round of Juniper they will do the same changes as model 3 highland, meaning they will keep the same battery and motor/trim but make the car more efficient and comfortable because these changes will not be expensive and they can sell the car with affordable price. Year by year they will introduce changing battery, motor, etc. This makes sense as you compare to what they did to model 3 higland and Tesla is trying to make cheaper cars.

[@Nathan-ty6fd]

@@abebegirmay3327 ... But they have changed the battery platform.... The model Y 4680 structural packs are a real thing. Again I suspect they will release the Model Y Juniper with maybe 1 version with the 4680s and a new more efficient structural pack. As 4680 line scales and Panasonic's 4680 plant comes on line, the rest of the model Ys will transfer over to 4680 structural packs.Then the model 3 will receive that change a year or two later.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

I just want ventilated seats, much better ride on the Juniper model Y, even with my Tien adjustable dampers it still does not ride like the current model 3 refresh.

[@markcooper7842]

I didn’t ever see the setback mentioned. Plus I agree with you completely. I have a 2024 model three which is much smoother and quieter than my 2023 model Y.

[@trythis2821]

Vehicle to the grid charging for Model Y Juniper would be an awesome feature.

[@gcslade]

I'd just like a dedicated place to put my sunglasses in my model Y. Compared to my other so-called "premium" vehicles and even my truck, the Model Y interior is deeply lacking basic features like roof mounted sunglass holder, functional sunshades, built in garage door opener (as standard), blind spot indicator and cooled seats. Hopefully, the new Juniper will add the basic interior features that have been missing.

[@jbmcdoogle]

People tend to forget that Tesla is basic EV transportation. That's it. Nothing more and the new Model Y won't have any new features like what you mentioned. I don't get why they do ventilated seats and a screen for the back seat but can't do a built in garage opener or the sunglass holder. Or rear cross traffic awareness. That's mind boggling to me that they have so much tech with Vision but the car can't see or sense someone walking behind the car and automatically stopping the car.

[@KevininSC]

Why does Tesla not allow a purchase after leasing, like every other car company? It's basically renting without option to purchase if you like the car. I don't understand. Thanks

[@wefixschoolsinchicago2258]

Used Tesla is pretty worthless.

[@rhettoracle9679]

Unless Tesla is planning on keeping them and using as autonomous Robotaxis second half of2025. ​@@wefixschoolsinchicago2258

[@JBean_COCR]

Along with changes you discussed I'd like to see a 10-15% rnge increase and VTG capability

[@joebullwinkle5099]

The current battery and charging speeds on model y and 3 are going to get old really fast in the coming 18 months. 800-1000V architecture is slowly becoming a new standard with newer EV’s and Tesla’s 400V architecture with it’s much slower charging curve on everything except cybertruck is going to make those vehicles less and less desirable going forward!

[@jbmcdoogle]

And as long as people keep buying their cars, they won't see fit to change things like this anytime soon.

[@tonyvelasco5732]

New model 3 has much better range than old, with model 3 long range rear wheel drive averaging 23 miles more than epa range of 363 even, and that 363 was an improvement from old model 3 long range.

[@johnwagner9257]

I have on of the first Model Y's. I made a list then of things I wanted before upgrading in the future. Many things have been added to the current revision (a few are dual pane glass, silver color option, improved suspension etc.) or have been added to the 3 so expected to the Y (a few like ventilated seats, new wheel options etc.) but there are still a bunch before I'd consider. The bigger ones are 1) Improved range on the Performance (320+) 2) Upgraded battery tech (4680s) 3) Vehicle to Grid/home etc. Doesn't look like those are coming, so I'll probably end up waiting on the Rivian R2 to see what the brings.

[@dyldog]

Model Y has a silver option rn

[@johnwagner9257]

@@dyldog Right, that is one of things I listed in the "current revision".

[@dyldog]

@@johnwagner9257 sorry I’m autistic 💀

[@jbmcdoogle]

According to the CEO of CATL (Contemporary Amperex Technology Limited), a major battery manufacturer, Tesla is not currently able to effectively produce its own batteries, particularly criticizing their "4680" battery cell technology as a failure that will not be successful in the long run; essentially saying that Tesla "doesn't know how to make a battery" compared to their expertise in other areas like software and hardware.

[@balanwyt]

Any info on Juniper's improve suspension?

[@ChicagoBob123]

No charge speed upgrade? No suspension change for better ride?

[@abebegirmay3327]

Indeed they will change suspension, exterior and interior change to make it more efficient and comfortable similar to model 3 but they will not change battery and motor/trim as changing these two will need more change and cost.

[@james.a]

Don’t forget a new model Y refresh will also include the AI4 hardware for FSD.

[@Teddy_M85]

That's the main reason I want to upgrade.

[@mkrewson]

@@Teddy_M85 Model Y’s have had AI4 for like a year and a half now

[@nathanwolf5547]

I’m always slightly worried when I see these recalls in America, but not here in the UK for Hyundai.

Last time they had a recall earlier this year, there was a recall in the UK as well just a bit slower

[@CurieBohr]

I’m super excited for the new Y

[@shaggydogsales]

I have to take what Fred says as a reliable source with a grain of salt.

[@DudeAutonomy]

LOL… “Before gas savings”…. And why do you need a Cybertruck range extender when the current battery pack is half empty?

[@JunlaiAiguo3c]

Tesla stock dipped severally , resulting to about 23% drop in the shares value this month. I seriously need suggestions on how to diversify my $400k portfolio made up of volatile TSLA.

[@BaozhaiDongmei]

Investing without proper guidance can lead to mistakes and losses. I've learned this from my own experience.If you're new to investing or don't have much time, it's best to get advice from an expert.

[@Magdalena-u7l]

A lot of folks downplay the role of advlsor until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for licensed advisors and came across someone of utmost qualifications. She's helped grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to $850k.

[@Friedrich-j3i]

How can one find a verifiable financial planner? I would not mind looking up the professional that helped you. I will be retiring in two years and I might need some management on my much larger portfolio. Don't want to take any chances.

[@BillB33525]

I want PowerShare, more Range and faster charging!

[@abebegirmay3327]

You do know they charge the demo cars to 100% everytime to make sure they can use by many people who wants to try driving the cars. So that is the disadvantage with demo cars even if they are long range or performance with 80% recommended they do charge them to 100% and these cars already have battery degradation as compared to new cars. I totally agree with your point that Tesla will do the same upgrade to Y RWD and LR as model 3 meaning they will keep the same battery and motor but make it more efficient by making it slim, aero dynamic and change to interior similar to model 3 but later they might change battery, etc.

[@YourSixStudios]

Great video! I am seriously thinking of buying a Tesla now with 0% apy!

[@janderson1990]

Where did you get that Cybertruck that's sitting on your shelf? 😅

[@bamafam]

If you’re right about the refresh Y then Tesla has jumped the shark. More EVs coming into the market and if Tesla wants to keep the Y as best selling EV in the world and knowing they don’t retool production often to keep profits up, then they need to leap ahead to sustain this momentum. Meaning 800 volt and ton more range. Otherwise without tax credit and Elon’s flippant pricing that often buries owners with upside down values, even Tesla owners will look elsewhere. The Y is a car touted as a SUV. People will start looking at the SUVs coming like Ioniq 9, Rivian R2, or even the Scout Traveler.

[@gooldii1]

Old talking "TESLA-KILLERS"😂😂😂😂

[@TrendyStone]

Jumped the shark? That’s a bit extreme.

[@bamafam]

And y’all be complaining when the tax incentives are gone and paying Volvo EV prices with Walmart build quality and choice of 5 colors and two interiors.

[@jbmcdoogle]

@@bamafam Agreed. Add another interior color, FFS! They already have cream for the S and X. That would be an easy add for the Y and then add something new to the S and X, maybe red! Or add a fabric option, for the Y, like the gray fabric Polestar has. Those are amazing seats.

[@bsaxman2012]

I like my 2023 MY LR that I bought in Feb 2023. Of course, I would like to see improvements (smoother ride, passenger grab handles, quieter cabin, more range), but it has depreciated so much in almost 2 years that I wouldn't consider selling it and buying a new "Juniper" MY until I wear it out and the wheels fall off. If the "Juniper" removes stalks (like on the "Highland" Model 3), then it's a non-starter for me. I've driven 2024 Model 3s that do not have stalks and swiping a screen to go forward or backward is ridiculous.

[@garyclack3807]

Drive it till the doors don’t shut…..get your money’s worth

[@trythis2821]

Selecting forward, backwards or park from the screen is not a big deal. Should have a manual location up high above the windscreen as a failsafe.

[@meldoon]

The referral program is only for first time buyers?

[@DownunderGraham]

The only thing I really want in the new MY is adaptive suspension. I really hope that is included.

[@kidneystonez]

I don't like that it feels like more and more that Tesla cars are a bunch of subscriptions jumbled together. I don't like subscriptions.

[@peteregan3862]

The Model 3 is made in 2 factories, the Model Y in 4. There is no way Tesla won't include all the tech upgrades from the CT in the Model Y, in part because most are cheaper. The primary difference is whether the My gets 2 steering motors at the front - I think yes, as it is a key safety feature for automated driving.

[@Teddy_M85]

The supply chain is not there yet. It will be by the time the Cybercab is out, which will then spread to the legacy vehicles. Changing 1 part means changing 1-3 robots minimum... It's too costly this early in the game. That's why the CT was important to be a test vehicle for new tech b4 the Cybercab.

[@BrianNedry]

Motorized sunroof would be nice.

[@Vilmir]

Current Model Y has amazing deals, but you have to live with its rough suspensions, mediocre noise isolation and poor cabin quality. I will not and I will pay a few hundreds per month on top of current deals for a better ride next year.

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Again the Juniper trim will not drop the licence plate to the bottom as that is where the hitch mounts, I cannot see Tesla dropping the hitch option.

[@Truthtoat]

Great content

[@olindbck]

The model Y upgrade seems totally underwhelming.

[@alexmedina6742]

What about passaging seats

[@julsrn99x]

I want to stop sweating my ass off in the summer time in my Y. Cooling seats needed

[@mntbighker]

I'm not driving anEV until I can back flow to power my house in a blackout, or supplement the grid at peak times to prevent brownout. Something like the BYD Shark pickup is the most likely type of vehicle in my future.

[@justmeagainjajaja]

I might say Cybertruck is able to do that, but its battery is mid, though.

[@swiftMyDay]

So where do you live that this is such a concern? How often do you have blackouts?

[@justmeagainjajaja]

@swiftMyDay states like Florida are very likely to exerince blackouts.

[@jgarcia8320]

Range range range! Most people say, well you don’t need it until they realize how temperature and making a different trip outside their normal day

[@XxRonnie86xX]

Make a video on my assume the EV Tax Credit will be gone . We are all curious to know.

[@gordonmcmillan4709]

I was told a long time ago that the basic design of the 3 and Y allows for air suspension. If there was one option I'd want on my current Model Y, air suspension would be it.

[@frankcoffey]

I'll be shocked if the front camera or extra range makes it to the US. Tesla doesn't like to admit they were wrong. That would be like adding Lidar for FSD.

[@jbmcdoogle]

100% But they added a camera to the Cybertruck and we saw it on the Robo taxi they're showing off. It makes so much sense to have a nose camera but as you said, Musk does not like being wrong. He'd rather see us suffer. Personally, I wish people would shop other EV brands and let Tesla sales drop.

[@rogerfroud300]

Hmmm... I guess this is all very interesting if you want to spend £46K on a car. However, it would break my heart to spend that sort of money on a car that isn't even that luxurious. These cars need to be mid £30K to be of interest to the average buyer. This is why the $25K affordable car was such an important vehicle for the rest of us. Instead, we're supposed to take a bloody Taxi. No thanks.

[@offroadskater]

Did you watch his usual discount bonanza in the beginning of the video? For Americans it's not even remotely close to 46000 pounds. In Germany the standard M_Y SR is, 33250. Still not cheap, but nowhere near 46000.

[@cyberchriz]

I want to see tesla getting the same feature like BYD..

[@trobwx]

Ryan, as always, well done with your video.

[@steveconley8851]

Bury the lead and then just offer conjecture on the so called Huge setback 🤬

[@sedohrj87]

We leased a a MY LRAWD cheap af

[@TheMadmax0609]

Any word on the $7,500 rebate for the Cybertruck? 🤔

[@bryanleubg]

This design is total copy of XPeng wtf😅

[@trythis2821]

Are they? When you look at CT and Robotaxi, they also have the light bar. Besides the front pictures are speculation at this point, nothing official yet.

[@U2B_Viewer]

It would be great if you could switch out your referral code with one of your subscribers. Seeing that your code has been used up 😊

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Those Hyundia ICCU issues have been ongoing since launch, I know as I had a 2023 Ioniq 5.

[@johnhopkins4920]

Hyundia?

[@ien2023]

We should know by now Elon is just full of it. The boy who cry wolf.

[@FractalPrism.]

he cries wolf the wolf eventually shows up but its a d.o.g.e. not a wolf and its years late for twice the price

[@tapetwo7115]

Yeah these Tesla models, Starlink high speed internet, powerwall batteries living off the electric grid, and SpaceX self landing rockets are so full of it. Not to mention people can just tweet and ask for Dog Mode and it becomes an official thing within a year. How dare Elon!!! He's so evil!! lmao

[@onionpeeler2023]

Just bought a new Subaru, couldn't be happier :)

[@harriettanthony7352]

My condolences on the purchase. Why? just wait till the PLANNED interference engine 'grenades'.

[@gooldii1]

Fossile Crap. What about Climate Change?

[@onionpeeler2023]

@@gooldii1 if they were concerned about climate change, they would have stopped the Ukraine war a long time ago instead of provoking & continuing to fuel it.

[@onionpeeler2023]

@@harriettanthony7352 what are you talking about?

[@BobbieGWhiz]

Best of luck. I hope you don’t have the head gaskets fail like my three Subaru did. I loved the climbing ability of the all-wheel-drive in snowy conditions, but got tired of replacing head gaskets. Good luck.

[@leftyduffer]

Blah blah blah. Someone tell Elon it's not 2019...people are getting bored with all the crap.

[@Skyvisiontube]

The longer loan payment has a higher price per month to spread it out longer 😂

[@RC-mz2oe]

😞

[@SoniaDiaz-zo4wr]

Can not wait to get rid of my Y. Adios Musk, You are toxic.

[@shiggins9]

Want to sell it to me in NC? I just became a huge Musk fan and want to buy a Tesla Y now.

[@jeffhanson8216]

To those needing a referral code that just want I make the leap and get their Tesla now, I have my referral code in my bio that still has a few uses available!

[@ASmith-vl2km]

No fast charging and no substantial range gain == not interested for me. Rather, I would just stick with my ICE vehicle 🤦🏽

[@livendi3229]

Tesla is complete close loop on refresh model Y production but this musician knows that there won’t be a bigger battery, and there won’t be any significant power train improvements. Suuuure 🤡

[@jbmcdoogle]

Nope. As long as people keep buying them by the truck loads Tesla will continue to turn out pigs with new lipstick. It's easy to change out the seats and add a rear screen. And Tesla knows that people will get moist over that and a light bar. They'll forget that they don't have stalks, and they won't get any better range or improved charging than a Model Y sitting on the lots right now.

[@gryphonthirteen]

BYD is going to eat Tesla‘s lunch in the US before too long.

[@viewer_5714]

They need to do that in China first.

[@viewer_5714]

Tesla is on track for the best 4th quarter in China ever.

[@viewer_5714]

BYD is eating legacy automakers lunch already.

[@misob]

Not sure why people still dont understand that both Tesla and BYD are competing against ICE more than each other. The greater the general acceptance and adoption of any EV is good for any company selling EVs. Tesla sold almost 2 million cars last year ... out of 90 million potential ICE market.

[@rhettoracle9679]

With promised 100% tariffs, Chinese EVs won't be eating any lunch in the US anytime soon. But they might build a factory here to compete....if they can meet stringent security and privacy issues.

[@JaiUneGuruDeja]

When the going gets easy, the whiners turn pro.

[@soundnutz]

Price movings and removal of items like hud and stalks will continue to be obstacle for ol legacy drivers. Who otherwise would've bought tesla. While Hyundai / genesis and others interiors look and feel better. Tesla only advantage is charging and possible fsd that still doesn't completely work. Old tesla looks dated compared to polestar and zeeker or even genesis. But i hope we will have a real fsd , or roadster in next 10years 🎉😂

[@jbmcdoogle]

FSD, in my opinion, is the only reason a lot of people buy Tesla. They're not buying them for the fit and finish. They're not buying for features per se. They're not buying them because stalks are being replaced by buttons! They're not buying it because of the superb rain sensor! They're being brainwashed into thinking they'll be able to have their car drive them anywhere. Frankly, who TF needs their car to drive them to the grocery? Or to their yoga class? Or Starbucks? It's great on the highway on a road trip but it's really adaptive cruise control with a few additional quirks.

[@Robin3615]

Tesla's "after gas savings" is so bogus. Going electric to electric like I did has zero gas savings. I'm hoping to see BYD open in Mexico so we can have that option.

[@meldoon]

Move to China ❤

[@BobbieGWhiz]

Why are we still talking Teslas and EV’s? The majority of the electorate voted for a president who denies global climate change and is opposed to renewable sources of energy and wants to promote fracking and drilling. The owner of Tesla is a great supporter. I doubt people who think otherwise would be drawn to this brand and want to pay upwards of an extra $7500.

[@universalask]

Talk Ford Explorer instead?

[@Hex_TCG]

Drink your soup Bobbie.

[@meldoon]

Tesla bottom should fall out soon after deconstruction….lol😂

[@neilbrandon]

will Juniper have tighter turning circle? It's ridiculous at over 12m. Should be 11m

[@F1715S]

First

[@Hueip]

Waiting for the setback…. Video ends. Where is the setback?