Tesla converts gas station into Superchargers as oil giant dumps 1000 sites

[@electricviking]

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[@Suburp212]

I hope this will be the same everywhere soon.

[@dejavumagazine]

Thanks for the update Sam. Just wrapping up driving the MG Cyberster, BYD Seal and Zeekr X here in China - the charging is abundant and cheap. The rest of the world deserves EV access and charging at the prices that China enjoys!

[@PhilipX2030]

It's intrinsically an energy and economic advantage

[@i6power30]

Americans don't. They prefer their rolling coal pickup trucks

[@barrellcooper6490]

From my point of view the best charging locations are ones at an existing 24hr,/7 day per week gas station/ convenience store.

[@dejavumagazine]

@barrellcooper6490 right this minute charging in Shanghai. All the bays are full with cars waiting. No convenience store... And no toilet paper.... And you have to squat. How much fun is that!🤣

[@MichaelBrown-kk6ck]

Great idea to convert gas stations to charging stations. Nice to have roof over chargers, pull-through for trailers, bathrooms & convenience store nearby. Hope they're Level 3/4 instead of Level 2.

[@marcdenlinger5282]

We definitely need more of those pull-thru charging sites! Lets go!

[@marshiamoss5469]

Don't listen to the naysayers, I ran the AZ-NM grid for several years, (until I got the company to abandon running it). The grid can handle the changes being made all over the world. Charging is only a percentage of the increasing use of electricity, soon everything will be electric and its about time.

[@fjalics]

Arizona is adding batteries. If you look at eia power monthly, you can see it. Here in Ohio, we need meters that can measure when we use power, not just how much. I think TOU pricing is key to shifting charging to when power is cheap and abundant.

[@igors6593]

@@fjalics You're right. The term for what you described is smart grid. The price of a kWh is calculated in real-time and depends on demand. This leads to fewer power lines, fewer power stations, cheaper energy, and so on.

[@alexandermelbaus2351]

@@igors6593 If you need fuel in the car, your not going to wait until it is cheap. Especially if it is going to take 12 hours charging at home on a 7.2kw charger.

[@GWAForUTBE]

Yes, The grids will adapt.

[@i6power30]

​@@alexandermelbaus2351unless it's emergency you can wait.. If it's emergency do you care about the rates

[@guillermomunoz6947]

I don’t know why they don’t convert malls into indoor ev charging stations. Drive in charge and get some lunch at the food court. All indoors.

[@robinhodgkinson]

No need to convert anything. My local mall and hardware store have had another company install chargers into their carparks. It’s another reason to shop there.

[@cyber5515]

In China it is illegal to park EVs in underground carparks because putting out chain reaction EV fires in carparks has been shown to be impossible. The only available strategy is to confine the fire to the whole carpark and building and wait for it to burn out.

[@sonnylatchstring]

Indoor charging is never safe

[@jckelley10]

When oil companies start building superchargers it's likely the tipping point has been reached!

[@PeterShawpshawman]

Perhaps. But the tipping point reached is they make more money off you charging than they did filling your tank.

[@chrisg5101]

They already are. BP is doing this if I’m not mistaken

[@tilapiadave3234]

I think you've tipped on your head. Give me 20 minutes and look for comment ,, Electric Liar is bound to be pretending again , leaving out actual facts again ,, basically spreading fake information AGAIN.

[@SparkySho]

Click click

[@eish3291]

At least they see the writing on the wall, unlike many legacy automakers..

[@StephenJohnson-jr5hp]

Pulled into a new GM/EVgo charging station at an established truck stop last night in Ohio on the I 75 corridor and started charging our Mach-e and a vehicle pulled up to the charger next to us and the driver jumped out and asked, "isn't this a gas pump?"

[@crud5774]

Norway is a prime example of how public EV charging has progressed.

[@willhooke]

@@crud5774 tell us more please 🙂

[@ericl.7850]

Google please 😂​@@willhooke

[@anth5122]

Cheap electricity from the profits of selling oil 😂

[@petersimms4982]

Sam, I’ve been informed that the trend in OZ now is to have an extra solar system on one’s garage 😮😊😊😊

[@christopherj2231]

Oooohh 2 videos combined into 1...very interesting.

[@zzappligator]

There are some downtown centers that don't allow gas stations because safety of underground petre tanks is questionable when near water sources. No so with charging stations. So another benefit of charging stations is that they can be setup anywhere, including downtown centers.

[@ddyeo503]

But the EV fires are much more dangerous, maybe they should keep EV cars out of downtown centers for safety reasons,,,,,,,,,

[@mariebaxter473]

Nice review Sam , Not all doom and gloom , looks like there is a smooth transition to the future after all ? Battery storage will be the saviour of EV's and can only get better,

[@stephenbrickwood1602]

My EV neighbour has never used a rapid charger in 5 years. 17 homes in my 30 home street have rooftop PV. Some have home a battery. That is about half a MW every day 365 is a lot of money not going into grid cashflow every year. Say 100,000$/year lost cashflow to the grid. My good friend is saving $10,000 a quarter at his warehouse and more at his home. Grid cashflow is changing 😮😮😮 Petroleum sales are changing. Gas sales are changing. Grid electricity cashflow is changing. Rooftops are cooler under PV shading panels and lower energy costs.

[@timothylynham107]

I like having my own EV charging station at home. In Ontario, Canada, we have a choice of a rate structure that favours nighttime EV charging. I pay 2.8 cents per kWh. A 20-80% charge costs me about $2/day after tax. A 60% increase in charge translates to 60kWh on my Standard range Lightning.

[@FarmerBoBonYoutube]

ahhhh nice 2 vids back to back!! :) 4:20 😁😄😃😀😉😊

[@stanleytolle416]

To maintain grid stability variable pricing would help. The grid has to handle a maximum load so most of the time there is excess capacity on the grid. So when there is excess capacity it's cheaper to charge most people will charge during these times. If EVs are set up for bi-directional charging people could sell their power to the system where there is high demand on the grid.

[@JSM-bb80u]

Every office parking should be fitted with level 2 chargers.

[@lowiq3409]

HR will be very busy with all the fights over charging times and people hogging it...

[@JSM-bb80u]

@@lowiq3409 just give everyone a charger. Rather than having three 10 kW chargers, install ten chargers with 3 kW power.

[@M13x13M]

I used a Tesla super charger for the first time and was shocked by the cost of a KWH. At the rate they charge, buying a Prius hybrid is a cheaper transportation $/mile.

[@chrisjohn8081]

Absolutely cool let’s see this all over the world brilliant Tesla 😊

[@OTPulse]

Core issue is most people aren't at home to charge using the home solar and charging from battery storage isn't a good idea. So to make use of the excessive renewable energy being wasted during the day car parks were people are parking their car while they are at work really need a massive boost in AC charging.

[@philipgrice1026]

It would be great if gas stations were converted to the highest level of charging stations. This would reduce the time people take to recharge there and encourage the vehicle manufacturers to introduce more higher voltage vehicles more quickly. Lower speed, i.e. lower power, charging stations could continue to offer lower speed charging where people are not in a great hurry, such as shopping or recreating.

[@Kevin07-w9l]

The grid can handle it says Sam Fast forwarded 24 hours. 30 mins from Sam’s house were I also live they literally put warnings up at 7 o’clock about having power shortages due to 2 hot days and people putting ac on.

[@craigruchman7007]

A converted petro station offers a much needed pass-through charging option.

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[@robertcampbell6521]

Remember the race to put in LPG tanks history repeating itself 😂 but how many remain now.

[@danfarrand9072]

EV's might be great. I may buy one in 5 or 10 years. In the meantime, every EV sold frees up gasoline and reduces gasoline prices. Everyone wins.

[@daveturner6612]

Considering that an EV goes farther on the electricity used to refine gasoline than that gasoline will take the combustion car, the increase in EVs should mean a reduction in electricity. Plus, EV charging is mostly when electricity is cheap while refining is brutally continuous

[@wilfredvanvalkenburgh2874]

I don't believe you are quite right, but you are nearly correct. From my Internet search, I found that one gallon of gasoline requires around 4 kilowatt hours of electricity to refine. That will drive an efficient EV, like a Tesla Model 3, about 18.75 miles. The average passenger vehicle in the US gets 24.4 MPG, meaning 75% of energy is wasted before leaving the refinery.

[@drewthompson7457]

Where I live, gas stations started closing in the 70s. At least a couple of dozen since then.

[@Acemeistre]

Just loving the relentless good news on what's happening with this transition from your channel Sam. Wish we had more like you to take it to all those Fossil fuel lobbyists out there. Love your work ❤

[@electricviking]

Much appreciated!

[@geirvinje2556]

The name is energy station. This is happening all over Norway. Gas stations are closing, or are going over to be energy stations.

[@Purple-f6d]

Are people in Norway preferring Teslas over new Volvo EV lineup?

[@geirvinje2556]

@Purple-f6d Tesla has been the favorit because of the charging infrastructure. Winter driving is a major factor in the choice of cars. Then it's charging speed, and then range. All this compared with price. Tesla model Y comes out on top. Volvo has a slower charging speed. Around 125 kw. Even thought you use home charging 19 of 20 times. This will impact your long tripps. And, the price are almost the same as Tesla. Many use the naf.no winter test, to check out the cars. Tesla looks like a good choice in most of the tests.

[@Purple-f6d]

@@geirvinje2556 Thanks for the reply. Your argument is very valid. Interestingly, I found Volvo to be much more comfortable with quieter and smoother ride. The Tesla was filled with rattles and minor issues (mostly a bad quality control and not design flaws). Though I have to agree that Tesla charging network is unbeatable.

[@geirvinje2556]

@Purple-f6d True, and when the EV's gets cheaper and better, Tesla must up the game. With 400-600kw charging, and better batteries. This will be the new focus. American fossil cars lost the marked in Norway. It will be the same with Tesla. And, if cars that can drive it self become mainstream, Norway will be a bigger marked. You can't use autopilot in heavy snow, or almost white out. Winter driving is NOT the same as driving in the summer.

[@Purple-f6d]

@ Absolutely 🙌

[@AlGreenLightThroughGlass]

They'd probably want to hurry, it's hopeless at present in Australia.

[@AdrianMorris-g7o]

Thanks for the update and video Sam

[@electricviking]

Any time!

[@Misssabul]

This guy is living in a different world than the rest of us, maybe out past the planet Pluto would be my guess.

[@graemegraas6935]

Interesting, but still don’t know why you would want to use a Shell branded EV charger, far better value going to a Tesla supercharger or charging at home, given what Shell charge (at least around London).

[@zemo2332]

Game changer mate 👍

[@Jim-jh9bd]

Thing is even with 100 % tariff on BYD they are still cheaper than a new bottom of the line Kia, Ford, MG . BYD should just bring a dealership for repairs . Sell the cars at a loss and flood the market in North America

[@andyfreeze4072]

you think that isnt the plan? One way or another, the tarrifs are going to maga.........lol

[@sdfglkjhdfkjdhldskfj]

But here in the UK, we only get 850kWh of power from a 1kW solar panel annually and the payback isn't great. Batteries help, but domestic batteries are much more expensive than grid-scale batteries.

[@ChuckHolland-i4b]

I always new this would be the case. Great idea.

[@stevencole7331]

My 20,000 population town in california has 5 gas stations and zero charging station . Plenty of EVs i see to make it economically vibable but no signs of that happening anytime soon . You wonder with most charging at home the powers to be see little incentive in smaller towns with far more singlefamily homes over apartments who would use superchargers more often

[@philmarsh7723]

Kudos to Shell - they're trying to be an energy provider rather than just a fossil fuel company.

[@PlanXV]

How are they going to produce the electricity 😅

[@philmarsh7723]

@@PlanXV Nuclear power is the best choice. Wind and solar + storage is the other possibility but needs better storage technology to make these truly useful.

[@kng128]

@@philmarsh7723In the US nuclear power is the most expensive electricity you could buy. Building nuclear power plants often have 300-500% budget overruns. Dead in the water they are. With wind and solar with batteries selling electricity cheaper than nuclear a plant will never pay itself off.

[@bjb7587]

​@@kng128I bet you that nuclear power lobbyists will get a friendly reception from the Trump administration, in contrast to renewable energy people.

[@ianskeet]

​@@PlanXVthey produce enormous amounts of gas which in the UK at least provides 50% of electric production. She'll supply the gas and make a profit at the charge point too, in general they make more profit on EV charging than the pennies on petrol they sell.

[@labandonaldhock80]

Who told you all these tanks were old.??? Removing used tanks to get rid of the insurance bill is not difficult. You have to pay about 5-7 grand for the soil tests per tank but it is no big deal.

[@gocybertruck8189]

Very excited to see this.

[@stanleytolle416]

EV stations also need sit-down coffee shops.

[@JoeyBlogs007]

Ubiquitous supercharging will make EV range limitations less relevant and also allow EVs to operate using smaller batteries and hence making them more efficient.

[@Furtivo95]

LA County has 2000 gas stations vs. 426 Supercharger Tesla stations in California. Tesla delivered 5.6 TW hours to its chargers annually in the US or about $2.8 billion in charge revenue. What an incredibly lucrative business model that requires no drilling or trucks to deliver it and hardly any labor to maintain it. Charging is simply unbeatable and super efficient. Thats why it pays to lower their car prices because they make it up on the charging side- brilliant business model! Tesla seems to be set to become the most profitable car fuel supplier in the nation on scale. Much like Apple, even though Android sells more units of smartphones, Apple makes more profit due to their vertical integration and their ecosystem of services and unique hardware. The next decade Tesla is going to crush it on a level we haven't seen yet.

[@chrisward5626]

Most servos in Sydney are being closed and turned into apartments, it’s not viable to sell fuel on land that’s so expensive , and can still do ev charging in parking spaces

[@philiptaylor7902]

Servos? I like it.

[@HectorGarcia-nb2ld]

In America, QT is building new massive gas stations, they are beyond insane. Tesla all the way baby

[@sebastiant5695]

Hope they keep the gas station layout. EV-back in chargers are terrible for large vehicles and trailer towing. There is a reason why a gas station looks like a gas station - user experience- getting in and out fast - nothing to do with the fuel.

[@criticalthinkersrule]

Hey Sam. When you're throwing out all these numbers can you please specifiy if you're talking worldwide, in the US, in Australia etc. Same with dollars - try to remember to always specify if AUD or USD. Otherwise, thanks for the great content!

[@randycarter2001]

It's happening in US neighborhood. The 3 years ago a new Arco gas station was built near my home. 4 months ago they began to install 2 BP Pulse DC fast charges. Not very useful to me since it's only 3/4 mile away.

[@yvesinformel221]

Could easely support 1 million EV That is one million charging at the same time, but peoples charge at different times, so it's a lot more than that.

[@grahambate1567]

Great news

[@ingmarkronfeldt6174]

Ten 500 kW chargers running at full speed requires 5 MW from the grid. A town of 15000 persons in Sweden require about 35 MW, so 5 MW is not a little. A large electric grid substation can provide 1.2 MW. So a lot of V4 chargers requires quite a lot of the grid. Do not expect to find them all over the place within a few years. The grid infrastructure has to be adjusted, or some local power source is needed at the charging stations. I do hope all electric power companies is on top of this!

[@markkennard861]

How long before range anxiety applies to ICE.. :)

[@milescoleman910]

I’ve been saying this from the start. If only there was a really common place where people fuel up that could have superchargers added that also could have a large roof space for solar and a generator and gas for back up. The infrastructure is there already. If they want to survive they will have to add chargers. I know…lots of electricity next to giant fuel tanks is a bad idea? No one told the hybrid makers….

[@alexandermelbaus2351]

Oil is to industry, what water is to life. Neither can survive without it.

[@mdkreh]

If the grid has trouble handling the ev charging load then Tesla will just make even more money with their Megapacks to stabilize the grid at a premium.

[@HussainA-m7e]

I think there is a conflict of interest in some countries that is delaying the pace of transition to green energy.

[@christopherj2231]

Vehicle to grid will be a big deal also. Thank You.

[@carzombieeatery3216]

Haven't seen any gas stations close, and they're thriving here in San Diego County. Also, I still haven't seen a charging station when I've been out and about. They may be out there, but they simply aren't visible... at all. Gas stations are everywhere... you just run into them all the time. No app/nav is necessary.

[@crosslink1493]

You can find them at a lot of shopping centers in the USA (at least California). Drive around a few and you'll find them, but also check if they are working as a certain percentage are inoperative at any time. I believe a lot of them are contracted out to a 3rd party to install and maintain, but they are not maintained very well. But yeah, gasoline refueling is still easier and quicker, far more convenient.

[@ChrisB-u4n]

This reliance upon electricity is going to be our downfall, it is our Achilles heel.

[@ChickensAndGardening]

This is just common sense. Gas stations are going the way of the dinosaur, so convert them.

[@igors6593]

Fewer gas stations lead to higher gas prices at the remaining stations. This, in turn, causes even more gas stations to close. It’s a downward spiral.

[@IdrisFashan]

That’s not going to be an issue. 1,000 stations isn’t very many. There are almost 200,000 in the country alone. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@kstaxman2]

Having more or less gas stations won't lower or raise the price of gasoline. The demand for gasoline will cause the price to rise or fall. The number of gas stations doesn't effect gas prices supply and demand sets gas prices. And even if you were correct one thousand stations is nothing. There are approximately 147,000 gas stations in total across the U.S. As of April 2023, there are 150,174 convenience stores, of which 118,678 stores (79%) sell fuel. Other locations that sell gasoline are fuel-only kiosks (13,346 outlets), hypermarkets such as Costco and Walmart (6,648 outlets), and small-volume locations such as service stations and marinas (approximately 8,000 outlets). 80% of gasoline purchased in the U.S. is sold in convenience stores. Plus it will take many years before we don't have millions and millions of gas and diesel vehicles on the road. Economics is an interesting subject take a class sometime.

[@kaijen2688]

Yes it's a death spiral

[@crosslink1493]

Gas station closures have been happening in the USA since about 1980. The trend has been to fewer stations that have a larger footprint with more (and faster) pumps to move cars in and out faster. Its an 'economy of scale' situation. Even if gasoline demand slowly drops, and there is a slow drop in the number of gasoline stations, vehicle drivers won't notice it until the locations get VERY low.

[@sophmore90]

Happy to hear this news. We need more charging stations here in the states. Especially since battery technology will just keep getting better until it will take just as long to fully charge your car as filling your tank up with gas but at a fraction of the cost.

[@philiptaylor7902]

Shell can be guaranteed to do the bare minimum of renewable window dressing, then it’s back to “drill baby, drill”

[@orangesunlabs]

Thank you! I predict Geothermal energy generation is the future, for safe and stable 24/7 electricity production. Solar and Wind are welcomed stepping stones as Geo technologies continually improve.

[@amosbatto3051]

Last time I checked the IRENA data, both solar and wind were getting 30 times more new installations worldwide in GW than georthermal. The levelized costa of energy of geothermal is much higher than solar and wind, according to Lazard.

[@orangesunlabs]

@@amosbatto3051 Yes, I understand. I'm predicting for the future. Lots of amazing science and studies. Imagine a 24/7 source that is super stable and secure against weather events etc.

[@orangesunlabs]

@@amosbatto3051 I agree, my prediction is for the future based on the research and exciting tech coming. Imagine the most secure and safe and stable energy 24/7

[@orangesunlabs]

@@amosbatto3051 Well I' tried to reply twice, it keeps getting deleted. Best wishes.

[@julesgosnell9791]

I would go a step further - I would convert them into CyberCab service points - where the cabs go to get a charge, cleaned by an Optimus and just hang out together :-) - Tesla or some 3rd party should just buy the 1000 stations from Shell to do this...

[@anth5122]

Deluded 😂

[@Sendu7]

Wow! I can imagine how triggered ICE owners are going to react when they drive in with only a little let in the tank. Make sure your Tesla is in sentry mode and you are armed.

[@memor-u2e]

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[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

GREAT NEWS SAM 🤗🔋🔋🔋⚡️⚡️⚡️

[@kaijen2688]

Here in America 75% percent still think they need gas and oil. I had a woman looking for the gas told her it's an electric vehicle go to the wawa up the street.

[@dexlab7539]

Shell is also doing this in California right now

[@johnd01]

Solar is not free. I have paid more for my solar over the last 8 years than if I would have just kept paying the utility for all my electricity. I am in Sacramento, California.

[@johnbaker5533]

For Shell they have a decent amount of chargers but in Europe, US, etc they are tiny players (expensive and unreliable in general) the vast majority most of them and their future investment is in China. They partner a lot with BYD over there and use KehuaTech chargers. But China has 1.4 million DC fast chargers and still a small player over their too.

[@pauld6967]

I presume this sort of conversion isn't happening in the U.S. is because the vast majority of the gas stations belong to franchise owners not the petroleum companies. I have seen Shell Recharge sites but those are rebranded Volta sites not located at gasoline stations.

[@squishedfrog99-gp4qq]

Drill baby drill. That is about to change.

[@ronlee9984]

If the market in an area supports conversion of less used gasoline stations then so be it. The USA will never see EVs become the dominant vehicle sold. For those countries that become EV dominant, that helps me by reducing the demand for petroleum so I should see lower gasoline prices. ICE vehicles are not going away.

[@SamIAm-kz4hg]

"ICE vehicles are not going away." Yeah. They are.

[@johnfrancis4401]

The demise of petrol cars will occur - but much slower than Sam predicts in America and Europe. This is because the electricity supply is still mostly dependent on fossil fuels.

[@stephenparker5272]

Is it a game changer?

[@nelsondoan8271]

👍

[@i6power30]

Fast charging station should be as ubiquitous as gas stations today. Home charging is not a sufficient argument for less charging stations. There are emergencies you need fast charging in order to meet time constraints.

[@RobertCrickmore]

Please add AI Data Centers to any conversation about the grid. From what I've read, they are a much bigger grid problem than EV's.

[@54duffield54]

Wow All of these charge stations and all EV manufacturers out of business because of dire sales. Just think of the cost to reconvert them all back to petrol and diesel.

[@GWAForUTBE]

Fantastic!!

[@electricviking]

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@GWAForUTBE]

@electricviking Battery chemistry is the holy grail. Glad your on top.

[@ronmorris1191]

If you charge your car during the day there is no pressure on the grid. When you get home, your car becomes an additional battery for your home. This becomes a win-win situation.

[@dvader3263]

There's also no pressure on the grid if an EV is programmed to start charging late night, while most people are sleeping, at which time homes are using little to no electricity and the grid has excess capacity. No grid upgrades are needed.

[@scottmcshannon6821]

what percentage of gas station need to move over to electric? since most charging will be done at home for everyone, eventually, we will need fewer chargers than gas pumps, and mostly for long range traveling.

[@plasticcreations7836]

If Shell want to get into EV charging more then I don't understand why they would sell off the existing Petrol (Gas) stations - why not just convert them all? Converting them to EV charging needs to happen more often IMO.

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Liability. Big Oil already sold off stations. Someone else - us - will pay to clean up contamination 😮

[@pasilinnosto6712]

Do ya think Shell could possibly build 50,000 road side stations, or will be just maybe 10

[@jean-marcfiliatrault266]

Sam, don’t forget the problem with solar energy. You need sun during daytime, pretty much every day, regardless of season… The same phenomenon applies to wind power. You need “constant” wind. Soooo, I live in Montréal. Québec, Canada. Solar power makes no sense yet. There’s no sun from Novembre until May. Ok, I’m exaggerating a bit, but not much… The same applies to wind power. You need constant wind. That’s not the case here, unless it’s far out in the boonies, i.e. in Northern Québec where there are more caribous than people per square mile… Our geographical situation is no different than that in Northern Europe, such as France and Germany… Soooo, for now, anyway, solar is not the solution for everybody…

[@miketubbs1198]

The Shell station you showed has Shell V-power which is just regular old gasoline...no electricity there.

[@Kevin-o2y]

I would buy an EV if charging stations were this accessible

[@larrymeyer2917]

You will be surprised how seldom you need to charge away from home. Ive never charged my BZ away from home, just have enough capacity to get around to my business 40Km away, round trips and charge mostly ever second night from 180km capacity to 90% and then have 360km available should I need to travel away. But never have used fast charge in 2 years.

[@stevewhitmill2037]

And they were a lot cheaper!!!

[@stevewhitmill2037]

In the UK people will pay an average £17,000 for a car. That means the vast number of new EVs are out of reach.

[@Kevin-o2y]

@@larrymeyer2917 Yes but some of us lead different lifestyles. I have a condo in Toronto and a condo in Florida. No home charging available. I drive back and forth twice a year. EV's not an option for me until charging as simple as fillilng a tank.

[@larrymeyer2917]

@ guess you need to apply some pressure on the condo committee, times are changing and they need to adapt. Those longer trip, firstly, stopping with a nice 30min relax makes for a more enjoyable travel. But if it really is a race to the destination, consider a rental car twice a year, saves the mileage on your car, and if you are alone, flying is probably the cheapest and quickest, both cities are not great for inner city travel by car.

[@brianc5788]

If they continue to charge an idiotic price to charge - how long will they last?

[@marviwilson1853]

The future for mass EV charging is at the supermarkets. Once we have 500+ mile range affordable EV's then we just need to do our once weekly charge when we do our once weekly shop. Why go to a charging place where all you can do is charge and wait when you can go to a supermarket and charge and shop! Supermarkets have always tried to sell fuel so this is nothing new for them. As with petrol, price competition between supermarkets will keep electricity prices competitive. One can even for see large supermarket car parks covered in solar cells which also keep the shoppers dry.. (40% efficient cells coming from Oxford PV).

[@mabehall7667]

Let’s see--solar is a no brainer? Sillier words were never spoken. Just this weekend I saw a video on the economic analysis from a zero energy house in Massachusetts and the solar alone had a payback of 9 years NOT counting the present cost of money. 9 years with a friendly credit when feeding back into the grid, 9 years when considering a reasonable increase in power cost, 9 years with only a $10/mon connection fee, and 9 years with a current power cost of $.31/KWH. Texas provides none of the credits, a higher connection fee and I pay $.14/KWH-how about a no brainer 25 year pay out. House installations cost 3-4 times solar farm installation cost and THAT is where the effort should be, not in getting commissions from selling a house installation.

[@ntsecrets]

I still can’t get used to how he says Tesla. It’s like tezzzla in Aussie I guess. In the US it’s like tes-la.

[@andyfreeze4072]

we say Zed, you say Zeee. we cottoned on to your slang a long time ago......now you know how we feel....hahahaha

[@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck]

Lots of American dialects pronounce |s| as |z|

[@cyber5515]

What if you are in a hurry and the boss is unhappy with you taking 30 minutes to wait for a charger to become available and another 30 mins to charge the battery? Another thing. How long will the battery last when it is fast charged all the time?

[@SamIAm-kz4hg]

"What if you are in a hurry and the boss is unhappy with you taking 30 minutes to wait for a charger " This is a mind-numbingly stupid scenario.

[@peteralflat281]

I never ran low on petrol on the way to a meeting, because I think ahead. I presume EV owners do the same.

[@jamesgazin9447]

It would make more sense to convert under-performing McDonalds. At least then the kids would have some place to play while the car is charging.

[@robsquared2]

The solution is staring us in the face: charge your car every day, pull from it every night.