New Tudor vs Old Rolex | Who wins?

[@jasonchaney5382]

Every person that's into watches, at some point in their journey, thought that a Sub was the one watch you had to have. Like the Speedy, it's an icon. Everyone I know with an interest in watches has a Sub. And that fact alone makes me not want one. So, even if money were not an obstacle, I'd take the Tudor. In fact, I did. I'm wearing a BB58 right now.

[@Robert-vw3od]

I don’t own a sub (do like and respect it) and the list of watches ahead of it for me is a long one. Same with the Daytona

[@IamnotJokic]

lol so you rather be a hipster? Rolex is just a better watch in every aspect so you’re settling for less.

[@mkyhou1160]

@@Robert-vw3odyeah I agree. I don’t get the love for divers, I’ve never deep sea dived. I have a black dial Explorer 2, it fits my wrist better than a sub, and the GMT hand is useful (family overseas).

[@jasonchaney5382]

@@IamnotJokic First off, I am far too old to be a hipster. And further, don't let the precious metals, polished surfaces, and fancy marketing fool you. Rolex is not a superior product to much of anything in the luxury watch world. They just cost more. IF you can get your hands on one.

[@fark69]

A BB58 has so much in common with a Sub though? I always think if I'll spend thousands on a watch it should have a cool, less common design that fits me well

[@FINAL-B0SS]

Two of my favorites. Personally the Rolex Submariner 124060 (no date) is pure perfection. I can stare at that dial all day. However I also love the snowflake indices and square hour markers on the Tudor Pelagos series.

[@williambireley2529]

There’s something about the Pelagos 39 that speaks to me. I love the brushed texture on the bezel. Less flashy than the Rolex, but still plays with the light.

[@robertrocha597]

I think it is a generational thing. Rolex is always marketed as something you own when you reach success. Tudor is marketed for the guy is on the road to success. Just that simple.

[@fark69]

Just for me personally, I think Tudor has a hard sale to make psychologically because they have the association as a cheaper Rolex alternative. When you're spending thousands of dollars on a watch, you want to show it off and be able to tell people something cool about it. Nomos have a cool movement you can show on the back. Longines have cool, unique designs. Breitling has sporty, racy, fun designs. Oris has unique complications. GS has outstanding dials. Tudor has Rolex-esque designs, and it's already known as a cheaper Rolex. Hard to get people excited about. And I know you should buy a watch for yourself. But the psychology of buying a watch at the store right there takes into account what other people will think.

[@robertrocha597]

@@fark69 you are totally agree. It is funny that people will spend thousands to get approval.

[@resjon7981]

Only an extremely shallow person cares about what others think of the watch they like. I prefer the Pelagos over the equivalent Rolex.

[@robertrocha597]

@@resjon7981 there are a lot of shallow people out there. Buy what you like and enjoy it.

[@greenrush4313]

Your statement is BS

[@xavious5017]

I have the latest Sub no-date and the Pelagos 39; both are valid within a collection and I actually switched to the rubber strap on the 39, as it looks/wears even better! The machining of the Ti bracelet is actually quite sharp in places, particularly on the clasp, which was a bit of a detractor for me before the change to the rubber. Also, the hands on the 39 do not hold the same lume level as the rest of the watch, which is also a detractor (not sure if this is fixed in the current batches). Overall, I wear the 39 when I need something more sporty and casual/light on the wrist.

[@carzakone333]

I have 9 modern Tudors, love them, they are cool and easy to obtain, planning to get my first Rolex SD43 to pair with my Pelagos LHD

[@ignacioarienza]

Man you have been killing It lately with these videos

[@robertp5123]

The Rolex Submariner ( no date) is classic and stunning timepiece.

[@HamadAlMutairi97]

A brand I got into is Titan! I love the many series of watches Titan offer.

[@KC-bv9kf]

I have both (70+ collection acquired over 25 years), and I would recommend for you to get the Tudor. You will have much more mileage and memories with it until you start practicing. You can wear it as a student, resident, and fellow without drawing negative attention. Each of those steps requires you to get good references to get the best position at the next level. You can wear the Tudor and no ones really care. The Rolex will rarely see wrist time unless you want jealousy to detract your career. I’m a watch guy so I would not judge you, but vast majority of people will not like their subordinate wearing a Rolex, because Rolex has become that thing. Trust me on this, I have been attending, PD, and now managing 250 doctors and 180 APPs. Good video and analysis, but be careful.

[@sunrisechaser7913]

I own both of these, with the Rolex 16610 being my daily wearer for 8 years. It feels more “precious” in comparison, with a neo-vintage charm but an inescapable brand cachet. On the other hand, the Pelagos 39 feels like a tough, understated and dependable companion without the flash that you can bring anywhere and do anything (save for the dressiest of occasions) due to its modern features and its titanium case. It now occupies 75% of my wrist time for these reasons. Which you choose depends on what you prefer. Thanks for the video, Abdullah.

[@rampantcolt]

The black bay 41 monochrome is closer to the Rolex submariner. The only true difference besides the METAS movement is the glass. Rolex sits deeper and slightly thicker than the Tudor and that gives it the 1000ft vs 600ft. I got this information from an authorized Rolex watchmaker. He said buy the Tudor and save the money.

[@DarthJabba504]

I have both the latest Sub Date and the Pelagos 39. Sub Date is fancier, blingier, heavier, and more eye catching. Pelagos 39 is lighter, more comfortable, more utilitarian and rugged looking, and more subtle / under the radar. I prefer the Pelagos 39.

[@TeaJayRabbit]

I think they both have their place. I dip in and out of client meetings (government / luxury brands) over to warehouses and job sites. I don't want to have to feel too conscious of my watch being too cheap looking or too expensive looking. My Tudor Blackbay, Grand Seiko and Longines Spirit sit in this in between place where I can be flexible in that sense. I then have cheaper watches for travel and then slightly flashier watches for the weekends or occasions etc. I think it's okay to enjoy different tiers of the "luxury market" if you will, so if you own a Rolex, it doesn't mean there's no place for a Tudor

[@MrMazaax]

I've got Pelagos FXD MN and BB Burgundy (METAS) and I just can't get enough of any of them🙂

[@andrewmunczenski3632]

I just bought a monochrome BB on a 7 link and love it.

[@TheAlanAragon]

Great vid. The P39 is an instant classic.

[@GrumblingForesight]

Enjoyed your shots and analysis as always! This video resonated with me personally though as I sold all of my Tudor heavy collection earlier this year to get a ceramic sub. Never been better. The bracelet and clasp is indeed best in the industry and move has gotten me off the hamster wheel so to speak. No longer do I car about getting to know everything about the latest releases trying to stay on top of the game. Oh there’s a new coke Tudor GMT? Nice. A new Seamaster is spotted on Daniel Craig’s wrost? Cool. That’s it. I no longer try to chase them anymore. So liberating!

[@doca203]

I bought a Tudor Black Bay on two different occasions but I felt like the finishing and overall quality was behind Rolex and Cartier. Therefor a Rolex is more of a icon if your only going to get one luxury piece.

[@greenrush4313]

I would

[@mdbowman78]

Nice content brother 👌 I enjoy your Chanel.

[@AZadeh-nd8vx]

The old Sub, maybe. But the new Submariner blows any Tudor out the water. You have to wear it for a few days to fully appreciate it. I am not biased either, I love Tudor and the black Bay is amazing and I've owned one and loved it. But modern Rolex Subs are nearly perfect.

[@RabbitWatchShop]

I’m convinced you don’t own a submariner. Never have. Nor have you ever owned a Tudor. “Blows any Tudor out of the water.” 😂 so dramatic and noob of you.

[@AZadeh-nd8vx]

@RabbitWatchShop 😂 suuuure. Wow, so butt hurt 😆 I've owned over 30 watches in my lifetime. I've bought and sold multiple Rolex's, Omega's and Tudors. Currently have the 126610LN, DateJust41, Seamaster 300m Goldeneye, Cartier Santos Large, PAM111, Longines Comquest Heritage, and Navitimer A23322, a couple of nice Chinese watches with the Seagull ST1901 movement in it (a great movement for the money) - Noob enough for you? 😆 there is no doubt at all that a modern Sub surpasses any Tudor in terns of finish, fit, design and overall quality. Even an amateur can see and feel it. Do you really think Rolex, who own Tudor, would allow their sister company to make watches that were equal to Rolex? It wouldn't make any sense. Tudor are great watches and I love them, but a modern Sub is in a different class to Black Bay or Pelagos. Even the DateJust 41 has a better feel and balance on the wrist than the black bay equivalent. It's just more refined.

[@RabbitWatchShop]

@@AZadeh-nd8vx had a submariner. Currently have a modern Rolex datejust, boomer. Boomer, I also have two Tudor divers, boomer. And have held and spent time with many omega, boomer, but didn’t commit due to the dimensions, boomer. Boomer, get your newspaper, sit in your rocking chair, and chill, boomer.

[@RabbitWatchShop]

@@AZadeh-nd8vx All cap 🧢 boomer

[@AZadeh-nd8vx]

@RabbitWatchShop boomer? Lol I guess you're referring to a Baby Boomer? Lol I'm technically a millennial born in 1984. I can tell you are for sure 😆 probably in your "safe space" your mum's basement, which I ruined by hurting your feelings. I can just see yiu now, sitying in the basemwnt wiith your fake watches waiting for her to make dinner for you 😆 run along now kid, dinners ready! X

[@rodsalvador3608]

I love your camera analogy. Here's a car one. A few years ago, I had the opportunity to choose between a Porsche 993 and a newer, faster, cheaper Evora. Objectively better on every numerical measure. Except emotion. But I chose the Evora on the numbers. While the Evora hasn't depreciated, the 993, slower, older, worse handling has taken off into the stratosphere. Same with Rolex. Rolex will always have nostalgia, emotion and desirability on its side.

[@TheFuturisticVintage]

Love the video and has me thinking about it now…

[@louisdebonis5716]

I bought the tudor as the rolex submariner is never available. When I received a call from my Rolex AD I purchased my submariner Date. Sold the tudor, the rolex is much nicer.

[@rustydrog]

Correct

[@carlmoulton5719]

Very difficult to see past decades of incredible brainwashing to make an objective opinion. I have owned several roles and still own two amongst Tudors, omegas and habrings. Rolex make nice watches. Not great watches. In my opinion not as high quality as omega and I would not say a sub is worth 3 times the amount of an equivalent Tudor. It’s simply not. But the marketing and brand recognition of ‘is that a rolex’ makes people pay the premium. If it was for the quality or the watch they would go buy a JLC

[@louisdebonis5716]

@@carlmoulton5719 i guess it's about how the watch makes you feel when you wear it. I own several tudors and never get the same feeling as when I wear my daytona or pepsi

[@mikemorenilla7444]

What is that poster behind you and where can I buy it?

[@chateaubullion2560]

I got my 16610 Sub back in 1991 before all this craziness happened. I still own the Sub to this day. I'm old school or should I say, I'm just old. I like your analogy with the Canon cameras. I do own a 5D along with even older and bulkier1D and no mirrorless camera. By the way, I do own a Tudor but it's a Black Bay Harrods Edition.

[@rodsalvador3608]

Thinking about a Harrod's! How do you like it? Get much wrist time?

[@chateaubullion2560]

@@rodsalvador3608 I like it a lot. I only own one Tudor but this Harrods gets plenty of wrist time. People complain about the thickness and the faux rivets but once on the wrist, I don't notice it at all. It does have some weight but still quite comfortable on the wrist. This one's a keeper for me.

[@K.J.H_]

I really like the Pelagos 39, i just want the date in my daily. I dont know why they dont offer both options like the Sub. Just crazy.

[@Kalmar917]

Both great but I prefer the two line 14060m.

[@drkesrf]

I was in the market for a sub and i was very very unimpressed with it for the price. If it was $6k then its amazing. I went with a BB54 instead and could not be happier. Basically same quality for under $4k.

[@mrlong6267]

Life is short. Buy what you will wear and not be afraid of getting robbed at gunpoint in broad daylight. Cheers!

[@maitrehg]

Since I got the famous Tudor BB41 Monochrome, I have absolutely no desire to have a Rolex. I much prefer the vintage look of Tudor and mine is + one second / full week. Bonus: 15,000 gauss magnetic resistance.

[@workingrich8464]

Rolex watches usually are not available. That’s why I bought a Tudor

[@MegaTraum420nyc]

I want to buy my first Rolex when I make my first million as a symbol that I made it. Till then I'm happy wearing my Tudor Black Bay or my Seiko Presage

[@phxfan81]

Brand new Tudor, much reachable 🙌

[@gavinwhite9743]

So, I literally had a sub14060m in my hand, next to the new Tudor Bb monochrome. I own the Sub, and love it, its my sons birth year watch. However, being honest, the Tudor quality, especially the bracelet, was impressive. My Rolex is my daily watch, and continues to do the job it did 20 years ago. I can understand why people who want a robust watch go Tudor. So for me, id still go Sub, but its a pure emotional decision. If you bought the Tudor, and wear it for the next 20 years, I'm sure a better technical watch would not persuade you to switch. And that's because better specs are just marketing by and large. My 20 year old sub keeps greet time, is waterproof and looks great. Its like looking at an Iphone12maxpro versus iphone16pro max. Better specs, but by and large both do the same.

[@snaan78]

Of course I would go for Rolex, especially the 5-digit watch, because it is one of the best Submariner models, combining modernity and tradition. I don't mind paying more for an iconic watch, and years later you will find that the difference in price was not in vain.

[@theoriginaljohngalt2450]

It’s just a matter of the watch use and even the person’s financial situation. Rolex and Tudor have different goals and objectives due to the design and overall look. Both are fantastic brands and will serve people well. So one is not better than the other. I always say Rolex/Tudor are better than everyone else, since they are owned by the same company. It’s them against the world, and they are succeeding!

[@ProjectSincere]

I like the royal and the black bay more than the pel

[@Milofchg]

I’d go for the Rolex first, then the Tudor

[@kubicska]

I like new Tudor and 1990-2000 Rolex

[@tab3Gator]

Tudor v Rolex hasn’t been debated for 20 years. Tudor wasn’t even sold in the US for decades. There is no competition, one owns the other and nobody is turning down the Crown for a Tudor. lol

[@carlmoulton5719]

Of course they are. If you want to spend significantly less money for a great watch rather spent a ridiculously inflated price for a great watch.

[@tab3Gator]

@ junior brands don’t compete with senior brands. The same company just makes money across two product levels. It’s a win, win

[@drnick40]

Tudor watches are excellent. However one buys a Tudor if he has no money or can’t get a Rolex from the AD. It is simple fact and Rolex is behind it too.

[@paulbonaventura4969]

Boil it down... get the Audi or the VW. , the Lexus or Toyota... that's really the closest analogy on mechanical watches and mechanical cars.

[@camilocruz3707]

More like tricked out BMW vs basic Audi. The Pelagos 39 is definitely not a Toyota...

[@arthurdub7901]

I got a BB54 over the submariner due to my baby wrists. Submariner even though the build quality is better I really started seeing it as a basic watch to rock 😂.

[@chriscon8463]

Hmm. I love my BB58. But I had a hard time justifying $3K for a watch. I certainly couldn’t justify spending 2-3 times that for a Rolex. That said…if I could justify spending that much, I’d rather have a Rolex.

[@nickkambitis5340]

It’s only the uninitiated would buy the Rolex. Tudor is clearly the better watch once you navigate through the weeds of marketing hype. If you’ve owned the Rolex for 20 years and have an emotional relationship with it, memories whilst wearing it, then yes ‘The Rolex’ I own a Rolex Precision bought in 1984, I’ve owned it since 1984 from new, thats 40 years! Looks amazing but it’s not better than my IWC, Tudor or even my Bremont! But I have that emotional connection, shared history, most of my life in fact. If I had to save one watch from a burning building it would be the lesser watch…… My Rolex. But buying a used Rolex without that connection at those prices is madness, the Tudor every time.

[@ahsan101]

Seiko better than both 😂

[@greenrush4313]

F&ck Rolex GO TUDOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@BogdanGuna-cz9of]

I'm there with you about older Submariners. They feel like tools, they don't scream obnoxious wealth. That's why I also love Tudor watches, they capture the same essence as older Submariners in my opinion. As for brand prestige and history, I like Tudor's history just as much. They made some amazing watches for the world's military like the snowflake Marine Nationale watches.

[@rafaeloliva6425]

Obnoxious wealth, is that code for anyone that can afford one? Your comment screams of Rolex-hate club fan-boy.

[@BogdanGuna-cz9of]

@@rafaeloliva6425 I actually own a 90's Explorer. I just don't like new Rolexes with all the white gold on the dial and the word Rolex being on the watch at least 10 times. If they would release a 40mm submariner again I would actually consider it. It's actually one of my favourite brands. I just don't like the new direction in with Rolex is going.

[@dezmarinvestmentsllc9964]

You buy the Tudor until you can afford the Rolex, but both are stunning.

[@BEYSeamaster1]

I would buy Longines Zulu in every dial color they made. 😂 A couple of Hydoconquests, and a couple of Master Chronographs. The speedy is too big. I can’t wear Rolex. It’s against my religion. 😂

[@michaelclarke1792]

I like early Tudor watches; but not the snowflake hands on new ones

[@jt.8144]

Put it this way, if you look at Rolex as "just a regular watch" and can afford it without blinking an eye. Then YES. Buy it. But if you're the type of person scraping by and selling your whole watch collection to get a watch worth more than your "MONTHLY" income. Then DON"T BUY. You're not fooling everyone . Just yourself.

[@Robert-vw3od]

The Rolex watch will go all the way in terms of finishing. for instance the engraving on the rehaut or the laser sprayed crown, there will be no Cutting corners when it comes to the bracelet . i’ve recently picked up the new tutor GMT and I’ve tried on the Rolex GMT , unless I was earning a tremendous amount of money I would not be willing to pay for the difference, and here is the big issue. we have seen a tremendous amount of inflation when it comes to Rolex watches in the last five years but in terms of improvements these are tiny . when I say a tremendous amount of money in English pounds I would have to be taking Home at least £150,000 a year after Tax. with the new movements The difference in performance terms is minuscule. When you talk about prestige and history- Rolex have an invented prestige, it is not the same as VC PP or JLC - nowhere near.

[@Milofchg]

If you can get the Rolex, get the Submariner first. Trust me and many others will say the same. If you work hard SAVE or fortunate to afford a Submariner. Stick with Rolex. You can always get a Tudor Pelagos 39 at a discount. The Submariner prices will always go up. The Rolex makes for a better heirloom timepiece, it’s collectible, and worth double the Tudor right now 2024 $8k - $10k Pre ceramic. It doesn’t matter if the Tudor movement is better, but keep in mind Tudor movements have not been around for more than a few years. Rolex 3100 series movements have been in production for over 20 years. Not to say Tudor is any less of a watch. I’m just saying if you get a Tudor you will always want a Rolex eventually. So start at the top

[@the_shadow_realm5110]

Why are all watch KZbinrs such rugged hunks?

[@acenewb1e]

Rolex primary, Tudor cheap alternative.

[@martinoconnor923]

Rolex is Disneyland or Never Neverland.................. Tudor is Manchester or Leicester ...... i have a 39 and live near Leicester!

[@key4duty]

In terms of the watch itself, I would always take Rolex over Tudor. For everyday use and as a go anywhere do anything then Tudor. Much more under the radar and I don't care if it gets scratched

[@Anonymouslyme1]

The Pelagos 39 is missing something for me, it’s too perfect, it has no soul. The Submariner is a far more charming and desirable piece to me and it’s not even close. The Sub is the greatest watch ever created and the Pelagos is a modern and cheaper facsimile of it.

[@aberdeendeltaforce]

I think that Rolex is a super clone…..few things not right about it.

[@sealofthesea5233]

All day every day. Even if I had enough to get a sub or two, I’m taking Tudor every day. Designs looks better to me and it’s unaffected by rap culture and Rolex ADs. I’m taking a CW C60 luminor titanium over a pelagos though, the lumes blocks are peak indicies

[@Larrylargesse]

Stop this, if you can't afford a Rokex you buy a Tudor , that's its really

[@_Root_Beer]

I don’t think there is a debate here. Rolex has always been king

[@Robert-vw3od]

Several issues. Rolex has emerged as the king in certain markets for certain people and I would agree with you that they have made the best steel sports watches but I don’t feel that way about them today, as someone who has bought more than one Tudor, have to say the difference between the Tudor, I’ve recently bought and it’s Rolex equivalent is definitely not worth the Price increase. if you look at another KZbinrs release today, he makes the point about the amount of profits.

[@jt.8144]

If you want to talk 'watches' go talk to any of UAE's ROYAL FAMILIES. Any "prince" Abdullah will do.

[@Momo_8k]

Stop trying to be pragmatic over an entirely emotional connection. No one needs watches anymore - this is man jewelry.

[@Pelagogo]

I think it comes down to finishing, which Rolex just clears Tudor

[@thegraciefighter102]

Either is fine. Just don’t get an omega

[@ChromeMan04]

Omega is better than both

[@thegraciefighter102]

@@ChromeMan04 old omega was great. Modern omega has lost its way - plastic watches, chunky bricks, poor QC and artificial scarcity

[@John-wf5if]

Why on earth would anyone get a Tudor over a Rolex?? Madness

[@andrewlawson4901]

Gotta love the bias opinions from Tudor owners here. I own neither (I am more of an Omega fanboy) and would take the Sub without hesitation. Tudor for me has always been the ''budget'' Rolex

[@abbasmaster3128]

Abdullah playing with Watches Rolex v/s Tudor Abdullah also has 41k dead brothers & sisters dead in GAZA Abdullah could have a flag of PALESTINE to show his care Abdullahs blood red or white?