NEW U.S. Space Force Ranks (Design & Origins)

[@BattleOrder]

What do you think about the new Space Force rank designs? I think they're definitely better than the Air Force's, but fall short when compared to the other major branches.

[@pyeitme508]

Looks like Star Trek rip-off😂

[@FirstDagger]

@@pyeitme508 ; The Star Fleet delta is totally different.

[@jonathanperry8331]

The uniform makes them look like the doorman at a 3-star hotel. I don't know who thought this was a good design.

[@prezmrmthegreatiinnovative3235]

do a entire video about bout the EDF (ESTONIAN DEFENCE FORCES) like training organization roles ranks jobs logistics and etc in order for ESTONIA to survive we must adopt every single piece of equipment vehicles tech and etc from 1800s 1860s 1870s 1880s 1890s 1900s 2000s 2010s and beyond we must use some few for training and manning reservists while most will be given to other branches if yalls think this is a good idea then leave a like on this comment and respond

[@geodkyt]

Honestly, I only have two real critiques. 1. There is NO reason for an E-1 to have *any* rank insignia. "You are wearing no rank insignia, because you have earned no promotions yet. Don't sweat it - you're getting promoted in a couple of months anyway; at least you don't have to pay to add a useless insignia until then." The only reason to give an E-1 anything in terms of a rank widget is to avoid the "E-1 Fuzzy" on the MultiCam uniform. If that's the worry, fine, just issue them a blank MultiCam square to cover up (and protect) the loop square. The purpose of rank insignia is to differenciate between troops.of different levels of authority and responsibility - there is zero reason to have any rank insignia for the troop at the bottok.of the ladder. 2. The separated delta in the senior NCO grades is just distracting (literally slowed down counting). Just use the same globe & delta above the downward pointing chevrons the junior NCOs use - the fact they have arcs at all immediately shows they are senior NCOs. As Coco Chanel said about accessories, "Put on everything you want to wear, and then take one thing off." I do like the hexagon taking the place of the wreath for the service level senior NCO. Clean and ties into the rest of the USSF "theme" stylistically, but still clearly links back to the wreaths used for other services. (Just like the the USAF "farts and darts" is clearly analogous to "scrambled eggs" on the other service's hats, while still being uniquely "Air Force".) The new "Class A" service uniforms are just silly. Keep the various insiginia elements (like the shape of the name tags, and the USSF button designs and collar badges) of you like- they actually look cool and distinctive. Keep the color differentiation between the jacket and trousers if you want - that's distinctive. Hell, even keep the popped collar if you want (perspnally, I'd stick with something closer to what the other services use in terms of styling, but there are worse uniform sins than a ST:TNG style Mandarin collar... and if you're going to go with a Mandarin collar on the blouse, couldn't you have gotten rid of the necktie, too, and gone with a banded shirt collar?!?). But for God's sake, lose the 1990s Science Fiction diagonal buttons!

[@jb76489]

The US space force needs to go with naval ranks only because then the 5 star could be “admiral of the constellation” which is just the coolest rank ever

[@huntclanhunt9697]

Master Chief Petty Officer needs to be a space rank. We need Master Chief.

[@rhett1029]

It makes more sense for them to be like a Navy of Space

[@anarchyandempires5452]

I like the air force ranks, Five star is, *general supreme commander of all Guardians*

[@rhett1029]

@GarthanSaal444 hell yeah

[@somethingelse516]

It should be like the Royal Airforce which took the ranks from both the then pre existing military branches, the a Royal Navy and British Army

[@christopherwang4392]

All jokes about the insignia designs aside, it's understandable that the U.S. Space Force wants to establish its own identity as an independent and relevant service branch. The fact is that the United States of America is very dependent on its satellite networks for both civilian and military use. There is no doubt that the U.S. Space Force will become an important and integral service branch responsible for maintaining and protecting our nation's satellites necessary for our daily lives.

[@ashtonfields3201]

Exactly, US Army , E-4 here , I REALLY wanna join , especially because I’m in a space billeted job

[@D3R3bel]

Almost every country is highly reliant on US satellites for civilian and military use. I appreciate the ground work the US layed for the wealth of geospatial info we have today and hope that they seriously look into protecting satellites especially when anti satellite capability is becoming more and more competent.

[@faithnfire4769]

Keeping the GPS network free, updated, and protected alone is critical in the modern world. Those kinds of developments were originally military, so hopefully the new branch will keep up those traditions.

[@howardbaxter2514]

They will also be absolutely vital for space travel in the near future.

[@lastword8783]

Fuck that shit. Build a space fleet.

[@somethingelse516]

What a time to be alive, a military branch’s uniforms inspired by sci-if, while its rank design is taken from Reddit.

[@SummerSetBytheSea]

LOL...LOL.

[@forgottendragonpriestartem3414]

Screw being alive in 1400, or the year 3777, this is the best time where a branch of the military is like that lol.

[@1337flite]

You want to see the uniforms where the sci-fi came from have a look at the BUF uniforms from the 30s. Something like those would be the crack for a space force. Or you could go with yellow Lycra yoga suits like Star Trek.

[@forgottendragonpriestartem3414]

@@1337flite Nah fuck that I wanna see our boys marching down a street in some Star Wars the Clone Wars officer attire

[@nagatosmith1158]

A Guardian who uses Reddit pitched designs on Reddit to other Guardians and got other people's opinions, but it was officially decided on by actual Guardians through official channels.

[@noblecowboy1425]

Now we actually have a branch of the Military where new recruits can actually be called "Space Cadets". Man this is going to be fun.

[@butchp568]

LOL!!!!!!

[@MusicalParadox1124]

"This is where the fun begins"

[@KingRat71]

I just hope they keep us safe from the Bugs. Service guarantees citizenship!

[@dwayne7356]

I can just imagine the type of insults drill instructors say now. What kind of pus*y are you? Are you a Space Cadet? Even the Air Force can now use that line.

[@nuclearTANK]

Nah, the space cadet's will get folded in the Marine Corps and it's fleet into the Navy. The navel do to international treaties saying the anything not on earth maritime laws apply, and the Marine corps due to it's high mobility needs

[@Truly1Tom]

I think that the US Air Force made a mistake when it eliminated the warrant officer grades in the 1950s. It would be cool if the US Space Force was to reintroduce the warrant officer grades because there could be some duties of the newest service branches mission that would suit those ranks.

[@kevinhughes5411]

I did meet the last active duty WO in the Air Force in 1980.

[@jeffyoung60]

But the US Air Force has never looked back with regret to eliminating the Warrant Officer ranks. The Warrant Officer responsibilities are split between NCOs and company grade officers.

[@brett76544]

Remember, when they get a space force academy, we will have space cadets.

[@zollen123]

Space force Academy in Low Earth Orbit please please please.

[@kght222]

holy shit how have i been missing that joke, it is right there!

[@brett76544]

@@kght222 Just think of the mascots Marvin the Martian from bugs bunny or the The Great Gazoo from the jetsons. The the team name will be the space ghosts.

[@brianstabile165]

MAC GUN pls!

[@kght222]

@@brianstabile165 you mean the new igun and isat with kinetic impact capability??

[@napoleonibonaparte7198]

Look guys, I just want to know when the Venator-class Star Destroyers come in. That’s enough convincing to join Space Force.

[@nicoflorendo3413]

They have been replaced by the new Star Destroyers

[@aquamonkee]

Biden's flunkies would more likely have one of those Death Orbs on order

[@airplanenut89]

I was joking about this with my friends yesterday. We poke fun at the SF now but one day the first space warship will have its commissioning ceremony and there will be some 90 year old SF vet in this uniform giving an interview about how they paved the way while the world memed hard on them.

[@60sspider-man29]

@@aquamonkee i heard their building a ship called the Column of Spring? Tower of Summer? Obolisc of Winter? No...ah well i can't remember it right now...

[@69Kazeshini]

@@60sspider-man29 pillar of autumn

[@zickley]

In a few years we'll see E-1's wearing red shirts instead of chevrons

[@Raul_Menendez]

I see what you did there.

[@JonatasAdoM]

Then they'll change the color to placate the rumours.

[@williamhaynes4800]

They will never were them if they know anything about Star Trek TOS.

[@londeaux]

That'll be the law enforcement section of the Space Force.

[@docwil2541]

🤣😂🤣

[@lawrencegriffin9936]

I came into the Air Force in 1992, E1 Airman Basic; E2 Airman; E3 Airman First Class; E4 Senior Airman; E5 thru E9 are correct, however there is a E9 and the Command level who have regions that he or she is responsible for. That E9 is called Command Chief Master Sergeant .

[@TheBattleRabbit860]

This is awesome to see. Civilians may be wondering why the Space Force even needs to have their own uniforms and insignias, but it is extremely important to create their own identity, history, and culture. Personally, I think the new enlisted ranks look pretty interesting. They are unique and can tell at a glance what it is. There shouldn't be a whole lot of wondering where on the totem someone falls because it's too confusing.

[@the_Kutonarch]

Cool design for the rank insignia. I hope they have a stylish hat to bring that uniform together, I find fancy clothes often don't work if the head is left bare.

[@cheeseninja1115]

What about the old aussie mountaineer hats? Reminiscent of the US western frontier, and space is "the final frontier". I always thought those hats would look cool on a more modern outfit too

[@quentintin1]

some kind of distinctive head cover has always been part of military uniform tradition, so i doubt that will be an issue with how they keep within pre-established parameters for their rank insignia design, as for the ceremony/dress uniform presentation, it's possible they were bare-headed because, well, it was indoors, and usually in any armed force, you uncover yourself indoors

[@stvdagger8074]

How about a huge black helmet with a mask incorporating a very noisy breathing system?

[@mikeking7470]

Steal it from David Weber. Black berets except for ship commanders who get a white beret. With devices for different specialties.

[@johnbockelie3899]

Space Force, now we need an enemy from outer space.

[@ComradeCorvus]

I'm just glad that some sci-fi nerds clearly had some influence in the design of these.

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

Lowkey..kinda jelly

[@dankuser8303]

Yep someone there watched trek and BSG

[@thewingedhussar4188]

If only they got to Name the military branch. Just hearing space force makes my ears bleed.

[@FrostyyMcToasty]

@@thewingedhussar4188 how bout USSC(United States Space Command) Definitely not inspired by halo

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@thewingedhussar4188 I think "space force" is pretty cool. I'm just glad they did it regardless of the aesthetics. America has been really slacking on practical application of space operations, and it's kind of dumb that we ignored it for so long considering how all of us use GPS and junk and otherwise are reliant on satellites. Meanwhile in the 70s no one really benefited from space assets and yet they were much more forward thinking about it.

[@notreallydavid]

Tangentially... someone brilliantly described RAF ranks as sounding as though they're out of HG Wells - Flight Lieutenant, Wing Commander, Air Commodore etc. Space Force could have gone down this road, but disappointingly didn't - not fully, anyway. 'Guardian' is a bit space opera-y. (I'm British, and an RAF-reverer. No cheap shots intended.)

[@jamesharding3459]

Honestly, the whole space force thing seems a bit sloppy and poorly thought out. Splitting them off from USAFSC was inevitable, but sure as hell could have done with some more prep work.

[@BenjaminPitkin]

Actually, there's a very good reason for it I think. Space-force is breaking away from the Airforce because the requirements of the service are totally different - it therefore needs a completely different culture. Maneuvering in space is all about mathematics, it takes time. It requires intelligence, patience, and diligence - and a much better appreciation for the skills of it's enlisted ranks. Space combat is largely non-kinetic and involves a much greater component of cyber-security and intelligence gathering - and indeed whenever a kinetic solution is called for - it's most likely going to be done calmly by a Specialist controlling a satellite. Someone with a PhD in astrophysics, calmly sitting at a control station on earth, in front of a computer terminal, re-checking their Delta-V calculations, and monitoring telemetry data while sipping a 'Chai-Latte'. The Airforce, on the other hand, is highly inculcated with a culture of 'pilot worship'. Which is to say, pilots get treated like rock-stars but if you're an enlisted grease-monkey on the tools you're a nobody and nothing. The Airforce is all about supporting hot-headed pilots fly by the "seat of their pants" and Space-force is making a deliberate attempt to break from this culture.

[@simonmoorcroft1417]

Lieutenant, Commander and Commodore are navy ranks. So the RAF owes its ranks to the Royal Navy, which of course is the "senior service" and around hundreds of years before H.G Wells was born. However your right about the Space Force ranks. I assume eventually Space Force personnel will actually deploy into space. I can see a "naval" influence asserting itself on the U.S Space Force at that point, since crewing a space vehicle or station is far more like crewing a naval vessel, especially a submarine than being based at a nice comfortable air force base.

[@Brecconable]

As a fellow Brit I agree. However the junior rank structure doesn't make sense to me. How does a Leading Aircraftman be inferior to a Senior Aircraftman and Junior Technician? On the other hand the RN got it right with theirs: Seaman, Able Seaman and Leading Seaman (and Master Seaman if you are Canadian).

[@MrTangent]

Did someone say ‘tangent’??

[@dirtpounder]

This is so cool! Those outfits look like a proper precursor to Star Trek aesthetics, I hope we keep down that path! So damn cool.

[@TheBenghaziRabbit]

Chief Master Sergeant of the Space Force sounds like such a fucking meme.

[@TheGranicd]

vs Petty Apprentice Private.

[@TheGranicd]

vs Petty Apprentice Private.

[@roundbrick4890]

Or MASTER CHEIF PETTY OFFICER

[@brianstabile165]

Could have been master chief of the space force,give them a all green uniform for dress

[@NaradaStudiosLtdTM]

Chief Master Sergeant of Starfleet sounds better

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

I actually hyper dig these rank insignia. They are very sharp and memorable in design.

[@bruh-oe7fq]

I hate them

[@cameronspence4977]

The insignia yeah are pretty good. The uniforms, ughh yeah are another story. They really need to redesign and do a better job with those. Id say probably something more like other services' dress uniform as their main uniform and just use the air force one but a better color/camo scheme as their combat uniform

[@anthonykaiser974]

Army Specialist naming conventions, AF NCO ranks (plus E5 SGT) with a blended USAF/USN CPO (squared chevrons) aesthetic for NCOs. It works.

[@aquamonkee]

The specialist ranks are almost Earth Starfleet from Star Trek: Enterprise to a tee which featured the delta through a circular background with angled chevrons on one side

[@kubli365]

I vaguely remember Starfleet rank insignias with stacked horizontal bars even. I think that style was what I was using in Star Trek Online. 🤣

[@Matt-xc6sp]

Enterprise gets a bad rep but I like that they specifically worked forward from now to arrive at the design, as opposed to backwards from TOS

[@heliveruscalion9124]

tbf pretty much every space agency in the world has some kind of delta based logo

[@johnbockelie3899]

Now we need Viper style aircraft to fly with.

[@nathanramage1275]

the delta from star trek was taken from NASA and AFSPC, which utilized the Delta, which comes from DeltaV, or the amount of fuel/speed that a satellite has (the greek letter delta represents a change, and V stands for velocity)

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

I like how sci-fi actually influence the real life. But it's also weird

[@ISAFSoldier]

Art imitates Life and vice versa

[@latenightthinker4737]

It's fitting and inspiring, it only feels weird now because we're quite literally in the transition from dream to reality

[@snieves4]

Star Trek Communicators / Tri Corders Smart Phones. JS

[@EndingSimple]

See The DREAMS OUR STUFF IS MADE OF: How Science Fiction Conquered the World by Thomas M. Disch . A lot of what's around us now originally showed up in science fiction stories.

[@iansahleen1173]

Glad that they are going to make them FEEL futuristic it makes sense sense considering how forward thinking they are!

[@MDR-hn2yz]

Marine: “Who are you with?” Guardian: “Space Force.” Marine: “From Star Trek?” Guardian: “No. The US Space Force. You can tell by my futuristic looking uniform and rank insignia that symbolizes the earth’s orbit.” Marine: “You geeks aren’t getting laid wearing that.”

[@KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain]

Space Force could joke about having rockets in their pockets.

[@marksmithcollins]

Granaider : "Who are you with, peasant?"

[@johnharris6655]

Guardian "No but I hacked into your computer and that will be the FBI knocking on your door, right about, Now."

[@JonatasAdoM]

Jokes on them, the space guardians are getting laid with the aliens.

[@darkner7769]

Wait till they start recruiting space marines...

[@gamingrex2930]

God, it feels like im watching The Expanse irl. This is so amazing and almost surreal.

[@shaftoe195]

*O R B I T A L C H E V R O N S*

[@abelzatyko1513]

Incredibly based

[@W0LFB3AT5]

Their motto is “Always Above” To be honest, “To Infinity and Beyond” sounds 10 times better. 😆

[@donnguyen3795]

"We have the high ground" would be hilarious 😂

[@W0LFB3AT5]

@@donnguyen3795 Haha! 😆

[@raymondmartin6737]

When I entered USAF active duty in 1969, as a 2nd LT, after graduating college an USAFROTC in 1968, and attended graduate school, there was one Warrent Officer, who was a senior member and then retired. After that I never saw a WO again, as I heard the USAF had deleted having WO's anymore.

[@JonatasAdoM]

Last thing Reddit needs is more validation or enabling.

[@isiaharellano3789]

4chan or Reddit. Take your pick. It's not like any other socmedia platform is any less toxic than Reddit.

[@theamazinghippopotomonstro9942]

@@isiaharellano3789 4chan

[@smoldoggy1005]

@@isiaharellano3789 autism or pure retardation, think I’ll go with 4chan

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@isiaharellano3789 4chan really isn't toxic. It's like xbox multiplayer, you go in knowing you are going to shit talk but no one really takes it seriously, and people who do are pretty quickly ignored. Reddit on the other hand holy crap, you can have hundred comment threads of two guys who AGREE with each other arguing because one guy somehow offended the other. I think because Reddit makes such a big deal about awards and upvote records, people treat it like a reputation they have to defend while 4 chan mostly everyone is anonymous without any homepage or upvotes. The only way to communicate in 4chan is to actually contribute to a conversation and you will never get real feedback on a comment, so there isn't an incentive to try and gain approval.

[@beeg8615]

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj nah bro xbox multiplayer is fucking trash

[@rext87able]

Ok iam gonna say it its now my favorite rank design, they just need to start doing some cool shit to become the best branch

[@gnaskar]

They crew the central control room for the GPS network, run the Vandenburg and Canaveral Launch Sites, provide Tracking, Weather, and Ground support for every launch on American soil (including making SpaceX launches possible), and stand watch for the launch of nuclear missiles anywhere in the world. What more would you want?

[@rext87able]

@@gnaskar you had me at making space x launches possible officially my favorite branch. In all due respect i had no idea that was the case and i think its a very important role that they play in not only USA defense but alot of other nations like Australia which is mine.

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

@@rext87able We’ll still need to wait a good 20 years for them to have SF and ground units. Can’t wait for when they send people in Mechanized Infantry detachments to Mars to guard outposts, and start calling them “Mobile Infantry”, riding around in low-gravity MRAPs with like cameras and cross-planet radios and shit.

[@rext87able]

@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 that will be the day also the emblem of the space force kinda looks like the Federation or Star Fleet emblem. Maybe a little for shadowing here a united earth to form star fleet sign me up

[@gnaskar]

@Dick Izzinya The MI are likely to be Marines, and the Star Destroyers might well be Navy units. Though that will be an interesting administrative struggle for who gets what responsibilities.

[@lekksy5907]

If we do manage to go interstellar, I can imagine the Navy being merged with the Space Force and the Air Force be switched to Fighters for ships and Marines becoming... Space Marines...

[@wilhufftarkin8543]

4:19 I'm not an American, so my opinion on this doesn't matter, but I find the Space Command's logo was more timeless. The current logo may look modern to us, but it probably will look dated in a couple of decades max. Just look at the aesthetics of 50s and 60s sci-fi that looked so modern back then but looked already dated when Star Wars and Alien came out a decade or two later.

[@starion1121]

I can't wait to serve aboard the upcoming Constitution Class vessels

[@latenightthinker4737]

hehe, Star Cruisers

[@moonbear7496]

Never thought Id live long enough to see the founding of Starfleet, but here we are! Live long and prosper. :)

[@oatlord]

"The highest rank in the space force is called the O'Neill and features 2 L's"

[@Brecconable]

*Indeed*

[@DomR1997]

Lmaooooo

[@melzoramills2579]

😂😂 I wish they had chosen the Earth symbol from Stargate for the patches.

[@erichuizar5881]

Maybe I’m just being ignorant, but it’s going to take a while for the United States space force to go beyond meme status in my mind.

[@airplanenut89]

No, no. There will come the day when the USSF will slip the surly bonds of memes but it will take time.

[@DaBeast34]

Just like people got used to the Air Force being separate from the Army

[@thewingedhussar4188]

I think it's name needs changed

[@thewingedhussar4188]

@@airplanenut89 if only it had a proper name

[@thewingedhussar4188]

@@DaBeast34 what may help is changing its name to something better

[@wlanman99]

Not sure what to think at the moment. As a 21 year retired AF vet, I went through the '94 change of rank and initially didn't like that. It grew on me eventually so I'm sure this will grow on me with the added benefit of now I don't have to actually suffer through the resewing of all my uniforms. I knew several guys who went through the transition from the Army Air Corps to the Air Force and none of them liked their new ranks.

[@squeaksvids5886]

Some one in the US military had the space Lego in the 80s, they had a similar logo.

[@0utc4st1985]

Now we just need Space Marines and the God Emporer's legacy will be cemented forever......

[@patrickspaceman305]

Anything short of that is heresy.

[@AbyssWatcher745]

And change Guardian to Guardsman.

[@KRYMauL]

That's just the marines mate.

[@leewilkinson6372]

So....we uhhh....well...thr thing is Gunny, remember how you used to see the moon? Well, about that....my squad and i were perfirming additional training with the mark 403 Tactical Nuke Launcher, and we wanted to see if it could, in fact, be used like a mortar to hit the dark side of the moon instead of another planet....good news is now we know the answer. There is no more moon though, but training was successful! I shudder to think about marines in space. 😆

[@thomasvontom]

As much as a independent service makes since. Destroying and protecting satelights. I love all the space marine, red shirts and on and on the jokes go.

[@robertbobbypelletreaujr2173]

Star Trek definitely had a huge effect on anything involving space, even the rank patches.

[@jb76489]

Yeahno, that was on the patch for the air forces space command for years

[@thurlravenscroft2572]

Was just in the Peterson Space Force Base Clothing Sales Store and found the new tank insignia for sale. Looks pretty cool!

[@CB-vt3mx]

the enlisted ranks are: Zero, Fellator, Fellator First Class, Special Fellator, Felcher, Staff Felcher, Felcher First Class, Master Felcher, and Command Master Felcher. The officer ranks should be; Zero, Zero Plus, Double Zero, Major Zero, Lieutenant Zero, Sparrow, Negative One, Negative Two, Negative Three, Full Negative, and Square Zero

[@thex-philethackery4330]

Thanks for the great video. I do like the look of the USSFs dress informs and their enlisted rank insignia. I wish they'd do something different with their officer ranks instead of sticking with Army/USAF/USMC ranks. Naval officer ranks would work best IMO or a mix (similar to Battlestar Galactica).

[@KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain]

True Navy's ranks are so PERFECT for space!

[@crash406]

I could picture them 'borrowing' from the Army's Warrant Officer ranks; no square on the bar could mean '2nd Lieutenant, one square means 1st Lieutenant, two squares for Captain, and so on. that could work up towards Colonel, with what they call 'the lightsaber'. After that, they just go through the General ranks with stars.

[@Geerice]

@@crash406 Every branch uses the same officer insignia for a reason

[@Geerice]

There's nit really any reason for them to use Navy ranks. They're completely unrelated

[@crash406]

@@Geerice with the exception of Navy Lieutenants. They have the same insignia as Marine Corps Captains, but the other branches use Army rank insignia. They both look kind of like railroad tracks, but the Navy has their bars on the ends ; the others are closer to the middle.

[@Jayjay-qe6um]

Can't wait to see their Space Force Combadges.

[@taemien9219]

Insignias look good. And I love the rank names from E5 onward. Sergeant E5 is just right. Never did like the the Staff Sergeant E5 that the Airforce did. However.. Spec 1's? That's ridiculous. Specialist has been a long standing traditional rank for E4s. Even spawning a culture of its own called the E4 Mafia. But now we're going to have Guardians who rank the same as Privates, Airmen, and Seamen being called Specialist. I think its just a bit disrespectful to the Army. I wouldn't mind their E4s being called Specialists. But not an E1. An E1 is not a specialist, they are a trainee. Even if they've passed basic, they're still likely in training. Could even call them Airmen, signifying that they haven't reached their full potential if they want to go that route.

[@groz9831]

I don't think you get what an E-1 in the Space Force would actually do, they'd just end up being a glorified tech-support worker. They SPECIALISE in computer logistics and the like. I think it's perfectly reasonable to label them 'Specialists'.

[@jb6027]

An E1 isn't a specialist in anything.

[@OneHitWonder383]

7:50 -- Let your eyes relax and go slightly fuzzy. Don't look directly at the E-5 and E-6 insignia. They look like a stack of books.

[@joannaa.5101]

Are staff sergeant rank change really necessary? It is as if no one could stay with Staff but didn't replace it and left it sergeant. Did I have that right Vern? I don't know Ernest I can't fathom the reason either.

[@paleamigo8575]

Great job on the rank insignia! The only the I would change, and it's not a big deal, in order to further differentiate the space Force from the air force by changing the color of the chevrons to silver. It will be interesting to see what utility unform they decide on. They obviously don't need camouflage. The Star Trek look with the diagonal buttons on the jacket is hot! 🔥 Great design job by whomever!👍

[@brycepatties]

You might be surprised at where Guardians might operate. If they have to integrate with Airmen and Soldiers in a joint environment downrange, it makes the most sense for them to wear the same uniform. As a rule, utility uniforms will largely be the same across all services going forward. The charlie foxtrot of uniform patterns that occurred in the early 2000s was largely a result of the USMC giving everyone else a middle finger and the Pentagon giving everyone lots of money in the wake of 9/11. Congress recently required that any new utility uniforms would be, well, uniform across services to reduce costs. The Navy and Marine Corps will probably just stick with what they have, and if new utilities are required, the Army, Air Force, and Space Force will work together to design it.

[@rtaggs8178]

I know the the spear point is. It is pointing up signifying that branches annual budget going up, up, and beyond.

[@mdarks4117]

I agree with others opinions that the Space Force should have closer resemblance to naval ranks. Makes sense to me (vastness of oceans/ space). Would be better when starship fleets eventually start moving around

[@ronschramm9163]

All I can hear is "Chevron 5 engaged." On the serious side, I am assuming the officer ranks will stay the same.

[@Georgehanes-GJH105775]

They generally stay the same for all services, though the names/titles do change.

[@brycepatties]

@@Georgehanes-GJH105775 Generally, only maritime forces are different. The Navy and the Coast Guard have the same officer ranks, and the Army, Marine Corps, Air Force, and Space Force all have the same officer ranks. IF, and that's a big IF, there were to ever be a space-faring military service, adopting maritime ranks would make more sense. But because the Space Force is going to continue to operate on earth and employing assets in space to the battlefield on earth, it makes more sense for them to continue with the ground forces rank structure.

[@Georgehanes-GJH105775]

@@brycepatties As a member of the Space Force I can say that we're a LONG way from that. By the point that we'd even want people on an RSO, there is likely no need for people to even operate a weapons-system. This push to make the USSF fall in line with maritime traditions is not very well received by moat people in the USSF because it mistakes Sci-Fi for reality.

[@pinoyastronaut]

This video is a great history of USAF enlisted ranks too!

[@larryroben1683]

GOD *** THE AUTHORITY & CREATOR ****

[@TheMixedPlateFrequency]

Man, everytime i hear of Space Force. I keep thinking of Starship Troopers and that line where they say "Rico's Roughnecks!"

[@M4A3Sherman]

So they copied the Eagle Globe and Anchor with the Delta and Globe. The Marines are probably going to be establishing the “Space Marines” in response now.

[@grgguilherme]

Ave imperator, gloria in excelsis terra!

[@dragon12234]

Alas, until there are things in space that can't just be solved via missiles or hacking, either due to strategy or politics, there won't be a need for space marines

[@brianfury5516]

oh shit, here comes Hicks, Ripley, and Vasquez!!

[@LtCWest]

They gonna get sued by Games Workshop xD

[@ISAFSoldier]

@@LtCWest ....I'm sorry, BUT who in their right mind would fuck with ACTUAL Marines....

[@davidk6269]

"To infinity and beyond!"

[@Cool5380]

Steve Carrol does so well in Space Force love it!

[@13thravenpurple94]

Great work Thank you

[@13thBear]

What happens when we develop actual spacecraft? Will they be flown by the Space Force or by the Space Navy? Will they carry Space Marines or Force Marines, or even Force Infantry? So many decisions coming down the road or “coming ‘round the orbit.” So may chances for silliness or rip-offs of sci-fi movies, tv and novels.

[@jascrandom9855]

Space Infantry.

[@gnaskar]

So, the first US military space mission was in 1958, by the US Army. The first crewed military space mission was in 1963, US Air Force pilot Joe Walker flying the X-15 prototype. The first crewed military mission to orbit was STS-51-C in 1985, which was done directly for the Department of Defense. Currently, there are 77 uncrewed spacecraft in orbit being controlled by the Space Force. There's also a reusable technology test bed in the X-37B, which is under USSF command. There are no current plans to launch military personnel into space, but there's been some preliminary work done to explore the feasibility of using a SpaceX Starship as a dedicated Space Force satellite carrier for launching, repairing, and recovering uncrewed Space Force Spacecraft. In parallel, the US Army has done some investigation into using Starship landers to resupply isolated bases in emergency situations. The USA interprets the Outer Space Treaty as meaning no nation is allowed to deploy military personnel off world, so would consider any crewed military spacecraft, space stations, or planetary bases as being a breach of international law.

[@nathanwilcut3360]

Gimme a power suit that makes me 9 feet 3 inch titanium armor and 40mm chaingun and I'll be happy

[@theheartlandgroup757]

You clearly do not understand the function of the USSF….lol

[@nathanwilcut3360]

@@theheartlandgroup757 yes I do. You clearly do not understand a joke

[@mrstrife806]

So, US Armed Forces Have 6 Branch now??? Neat......

[@FirstDagger]

Since the end of 2019.

[@crash406]

The Coast Guard is part of the Department of Homeland Security. They used to be part of the Department of Transportation. They may have been part of the Navy in the past, but right now, they're the only US government agency outside of the Department of Defense that holds their members to the standard of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

[@davidwise1302]

Ever since I first saw the Delta in Air Force organizational emblems (especially for the Academy departments on their old website), I realized that the Air Force had very strong Star Trek envy. Now the Space Force clinches that.

[@OakInch]

They should have taken more inspiration from the Orks in Warhammer 40k. More severed heads, red paint, skulls, and ragged banners.

[@HOLYLIFEIFY]

The SNCOTIER is replica to my from 2000-2021. Terrill TC!

[@rokospalj4328]

Make video about Yugoslav rifle squad

[@josephgonzales4802]

I waiting for the launch of the first Earth Force Omega class destroyers. 😏

[@josephgonzales4802]

Yes, it was. When it was on I was and am a big fan.

[@hackman669]

So is the military building space planes and orbital attack vehicles for the Space Force? Have these guys been in hiding till Trump made them public? Do Russia, China, or Europe have a space unit of their own?

[@johnalan6067]

Those Battlestar Galatica uniforms ROFL

[@donaldjonesgonzalez2761]

ALL APPROVED.

[@KyleAdler]

Those uniforms are quite the looker

[@EatMyShortsAU]

I reckon they look cool af and the fact they use a similar format to other military branches is a good idea.

[@keitholiver19]

The new ranks looks like something from the game asteroids!

[@Ace-lr6ji]

General: Genius! How did you come up with these designs? Guy who made these: vido gaems

[@babamcrielly8804]

Just tell us when we can put on power armor and start kicking Bug's ass🖖

[@anthonyponte7516]

Looking forward to see a video regarding United States Space Force Academy

[@3rdicam724]

From a futuristic space junkie who lived the 1980's, a fan of Air Force & Space Force and a Sergeant of United States Marine Corps.....this is hottt..🔥...Love it 🪖🎖🛩🚀🛸 ☀️🌎🌑☄☄☄

[@Nixeen]

I think they should copy Halo and rename the Specialist 1-4 to Crewman 1-4.

[@BigTrain175]

Would have to be "Crewperson" in this PC world we are in.

[@brianzhang349]

If the space force starts making LAAT’s you can count me as enlisted lol

[@xboxnube]

I really like these ranks. And I sort of like the new service dress. I love the fact that the two branches of the military which don't have their own sub-department of the DoD (Marine Corps and the Space Force) have Senior Enlisted Advisor to their respective Chief of Staff insignia which show their branch seal. I do hope that the Specialist ranks eventually change their names to something involving Guardian, though. I mean Specialist is fine, but it just feels really lazy. For the service dress, I don't think borrowing heavily from science fiction is a bad thing. These uniform styles are already associated with Space, so use it. The only critique I have is the weird collar. Either go full standing collar or full lapel. This open standing collar with a collared shirt and tie underneath just looks awkward.

[@kevinmoore2929]

Guardians is just like referring to Soldiers, Airmen and Sailors. Guardian recruits should have zero rank IMHO. Earning rank is a tradition that SF shouldn't just toss to the wayside.

[@BigTrain175]

@@kevinmoore2929 E-1 has always been a rank, just the lowest.

[@xboxnube]

@@kevinmoore2929 all military personnel have “rank”regardless of their position (with the exception of civilian contractors and employees of the DoD) what you mean is insignia. An E-1 traditionally doesn’t have an insignia, but they do have a rank. As in the Army (Private) Marine Corps (private) Air Force (Airman Basic) and the Navy (Seaman Recruit). The thing is though even within the Military, E-1 insignia are not unprecedented. Coast Guard E-1s have a single diagonal stripe that they wear. Granted the Coast Guard is also the red-headed step child of the military, so I don’t see the space force keeping E-1 insignia in general

[@xboxnube]

@@kevinmoore2929 Private is a shortening of the term "Private *Soldier*", Airmen below the rank of Staff Sergeant all use the term "Airman" as a part of their rank title, Seamen below the Rank of PO3 All use the rank title of Seaman as part of their rank title unless they are a part of the Engine room crew (Fireman), aviation component (Airman), or are hospital corpsman (Hospitalman), or construction components (Constructionman) having the junior enlisted rank titles involve the name given to the servicemembers is actually tradition. I wouldn't be surprised to see Guardian [Basic], Guardian, Guardian First Class, and either Senior Guardian, or Specialist become the rank titles eventually.

[@armybeef68]

I was actually talking to someone about the rank structure of the Space Force, he was old school army, but he asked me while he was laughing, like what are they called, he said, "What are the enlisted called?" I responded with, "Jedis" "What do you call an NCO?" "A Jedi Knight" "What do you call an Officer?" "The dark side"

[@karenreaves3650]

Remember it was General Patton who designed the Uniform, used in Star Wars. Not Hollywood.

[@joannaa.5101]

Didn't know that information. Nice.

[@Trgn]

Space force. Hilarious. It's like war is the only thing going on in the US' mind. Ohh

[@danielcalhoun746]

The NCO rank insignia seems more like Naval rank insignia to me. The SNCO rank insignia seem like a mesh between AF and Navy...I think its the pointy bottoms of the insignia.

[@noblesicks]

the top "chevrons" are called rockers and the navy A.C.E. anchor, USS constitution, and eagle and the ranks look more like Navy rank insignias/ collar devices.

[@thomasnelson2463]

The Space Force should be called "Space Corps", and be a part of the USAF, just like the Marines are part of the Navy. Just sayin'.

[@hudsondonnell444]

This just in! The US Space Cadet Force will use the Roger Ramjet theme song as it's service march.

[@tingting4980]

You have to laugh when someone has 12 medals below their National Defense Service Medal and only 5 ranking higher than that medal and they just an E-4.

[@hjkgufytfyug]

They look a bit like those 3D boxes that people often doodle when they get bored.

[@captainmanic1959]

The Air Force chevron design was actually adopted on March 9th, 1948.

[@paultreskow2387]

This project reminds me a little bit to Tom Corbett's Space Cadet but in color.

[@numbroneheadband225]

At :34, the lady Air Force Staff Sergeant pictured made news when she posed for the Feb 2007 edition of Playboy magazine.

[@spiritzweispirit1st638]

Love These Designs! Own em Like Ya Stole em! They Look Awesome! 🚀🌎🌍🌏🇺🇸

[@simbachvazo6530]

Honestly I love the uniforms. Really sleek looking.

[@donotneed2250]

Senior rank insignia reminds me of Navy Petty Officers'.

[@graftonhale9746]

Cool. What are the officer ranks and insignia? Same as the other services? Enjoyed your presentation.

[@daviddarden1915]

This is a marvelous decision from our newest military branch, US Space Force. Whoever thought of this was genius. Truly impressed with this. From US Air Force Security Police Military Veteran.

[@apvenczel]

does SF investigate any UAP abductions?

[@MissouriWatchman]

Um, I was in the Air Force in 1993 and I don't recall ever having an Airman 3rd or 2nd class ranks. It was E-1 Airman Basic, E-2 Airman, E-3 Airman 1st class, E-4 Senior Airman/Sergeant.

[@paveguts]

Looks like something a kid would wear after he pulls it out of a box of cereal.

[@mikehoag4846]

At 2:06 when discussing the evolution of the ranks, the graphic showing the ranks is incorrect. I was in the Air Force from '84 - '92. There was no such thing as a Airman 3rd class or 2nd class. The ranks were as follows: no insignia, Airman Basic (AB), E1 1 stripe, subdued star, Airman (Amn), E2 2 stripes, subdued star, Airman First Class (A1C), E3 3 stripes, subdued star, Senior Airman (SrA), E4 - rank earned after 3 yrs of time in service 3 stripes, pronounced (white) star, Sergeant (Sgt), E4 - also called buck sergeant, rank earned after 4 yrs of time in service. After Sergeant, any subsequent ranks had to be earned by testing and other requirements. After '93, the ranks are the same with the following exception. All stars are white on the insignia. The sergeant rank no longer exists, it goes from SrA to Staff Sergeant (SSgt), E5. Upper ranks are the same, except the change in stripe structure of Master Sergeant (MSgt), E7 to Chief Master Sergeant (CMSgt), E9.

[@jesserobinson20]

They're so determined to figure out how to look different, they never thought about how not to look stupid.

[@richardweil8813]

The sergeant ranks look a little bit like Naval petty officers' insignia too. And I wonder if they will bring back warrant officers. The Air Force got rid of them decades ago but they do have real use in the other services.

[@derekwilliams5993]

I bet the E1 gets a alot of salutes from other branches due to know one has seen that rank before.

[@pyrolight7568]

Not super crazy about the pants on the uniforms but I do like the jackets.

[@D.A_1988]

All you need to know is E4 for life!