New York City's $1 BILLION Congestion Toll Pricing: Is It a SCAM?

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Sarah Funk

Sarah Funk

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@lukylex
@lukylex 8 ай бұрын
. Corruption will never allow NY to recover
@s.pierre331
@s.pierre331 8 ай бұрын
The money is going into the pockets of the MTA. What a joke SMH.
@ar-sr4ow
@ar-sr4ow 8 ай бұрын
Hope the rise to the highest of all .
@jimbo1637
@jimbo1637 7 ай бұрын
How is a wealthy minority (drivers) paying taxes to a public service provider who low income people rely on a bad thing?
@Atrail_Mckinley4786
@Atrail_Mckinley4786 6 ай бұрын
​​@jimbo1637 Not all drivers are rich though. There are many working class drivers that drive into Manhattan and are not wealthy
@LucasHuang
@LucasHuang 8 ай бұрын
If there's a way to track where all the money went, if it actually went into improving the MTA, if it actually goes back into improving the city as claimed... I'd have no problem paying any tolls
@vander9678
@vander9678 8 ай бұрын
So you say "if it actually goes back into improving the city as claimed... I'd have no problem paying any tolls." If one actually thinks like this, you just opened the floodgate for them to do anything and everything.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 8 ай бұрын
​@@vander9678 all money to company
@kratoleaf7619
@kratoleaf7619 8 ай бұрын
migrants
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
Agreed, the MTA needs to be way more transparent. But even if the money is burned, it's still a win because fewer cars in Manhattan alone is worth it.
@Enzo575
@Enzo575 8 ай бұрын
No. The city looks like shit.​@@darkwoodmovies
@smoothlyrough512
@smoothlyrough512 8 ай бұрын
According to Cash Jordans newest video, NY is LOSING 700 millions on the subway by people not paying, so really, they are only making 300 million, but with all the other loses, they arent making ANY profit.
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
these are claims made by the mta - let’s see there books!!!
@JoeyJoe-f5o
@JoeyJoe-f5o 8 ай бұрын
The mta needs to open its books
@durece100
@durece100 8 ай бұрын
Build more busways on wide roads in NYC. No personal vehicles allowed on roads. Don't go to NYC by car. This might cause traffic congestion.
@juliegoldman411
@juliegoldman411 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely positively!
@huluhulu2222
@huluhulu2222 6 ай бұрын
They do. You can google the MTA's financials, which they release every year. Just because you didn't bother to google them or know how to understand them, doesn't mean there's a massive conspiracy. Besides, DOT's spending on car centric infrastructure is far far far more expensive and const inefficient than public transit. Public transit will always be a better investment.
@cule189911
@cule189911 6 ай бұрын
It’s literally part of the public record
@UNDERTAKER2621
@UNDERTAKER2621 8 ай бұрын
Congestion Pricing is a scam. They're only doing it because people are not paying their fairs on public transportation, and their numbers are low. So they're trying to build it back up by any means necessary. It's not because of elevator access or anything. Most of those things won't even come until 2055, by the way. I just happened to accidentally be shown in this video so cool ❤🎉
@bcapollo1
@bcapollo1 8 ай бұрын
NOPE ..we will never step foot in Manhattan again..
@ezrapotter4631
@ezrapotter4631 8 ай бұрын
Not even subway?
@bcapollo1
@bcapollo1 8 ай бұрын
Nope
@ramencurry6672
@ramencurry6672 8 ай бұрын
If the other boroughs improve and get better which they are, there is no real strong reason to visit Manhattan unless if you’re a music fan and want to see concerts
@robant5578
@robant5578 8 ай бұрын
before 5 am and after 8 pm i belive it should be free )) but not for very long. How about new 20 MPH speed limit for NYC ))
@Pikachu-qr4yb
@Pikachu-qr4yb 8 ай бұрын
Thank god. Maybe that’ll solve some of the congestion now that ppl get so upset that the others who don’t, benefit from it 😅
@ezrapotter4631
@ezrapotter4631 8 ай бұрын
I think it’s time for people to start hauling their stuff in granny carts
@michaelaeellington1376
@michaelaeellington1376 8 ай бұрын
the congestion pricing will hurt the people who have to live and work in certain parts of New York.
@scott7string839
@scott7string839 8 ай бұрын
They also want to require NY registration and plates for electric scooters and E Bikes, which would be subject to congestion tolls at the most basic level. Tax the poor comes to mind.
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
This is false. The only debate is on the toll for electric cars, which has nothing to do with e-bikes and scooters because they are classified as non-motorized.
@scott7string839
@scott7string839 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for clarifying. The legislative bills that come across my desk for review and comment must have been a figment of my imagination. Glad you are here to verse us all in NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law definitions and devices.
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
@@scott7string839, Completely false. The classification for tolling purposes has never included non-motorized transport. Registration is a completely different matter. You are conflating two different things.
@godfrey836
@godfrey836 8 ай бұрын
I love that you’re doing these like documentary type episodes, as well as the tourism ones! Favourite channel by far + made my new york trip so good
@ozmote
@ozmote 6 ай бұрын
The MTAs has its share of budget/spending issues. But unless you intend to eliminate the subway, it needs to be funded and this is a means of accomplishing that.
@Atrail_Mckinley4786
@Atrail_Mckinley4786 6 ай бұрын
The MTA constantly overspend on projects. Grand Central Madison was 7 billion overbudget. The Second Avenue subway expansion should not cost 10 billion dollars. They get $20 billion a year. They need to manage their money better and stop wasting it. They lose 700 million to fare evasion because nearly half of riders don't even pay
@johnhudelson2652
@johnhudelson2652 8 ай бұрын
The way people and businesses leaving NYC it won't be long that congestion will not be an issue.
@Will-cb4wb
@Will-cb4wb 8 ай бұрын
“As someone who just moved out of the city” there that’s your problem, people who live in the city should not go out out of the way to accommodate for people who drive their personal vehicle when there’s plenty of alternatives. Most NYC residents are okay with this cuz it will better our quality of life
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
you make no sense- tell me how there is a better quality of life taking the train risking getting mugged, raped or murderd??
@damianoandreaarrigoni4401
@damianoandreaarrigoni4401 8 ай бұрын
@@dionhayes5573ah yes, because that is exactly what occurs when you ride a train. 2 Billion annual ridership, and everyone is being mugged, murdered and raped!
@joshuachan8800
@joshuachan8800 8 ай бұрын
Why drive into manhattan? If you drive you have to find parking which is hard. Then pay for expensive parking. Car centric cities are not fun nor walkable. This is a good move. Take Commuter rail
@inwoodliver
@inwoodliver 8 ай бұрын
It is a shame
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
...that they didn't do this 20 years ago. Can't wait to finally have our neighborhoods back for the people, not for the cars.
@BlacqueJacqueShellacque_
@BlacqueJacqueShellacque_ 8 ай бұрын
If only there was sort sort of train that you could take from NJ to visit Manhattan.
@valentinchiriac9117
@valentinchiriac9117 8 ай бұрын
PATH from Newark.
@ramencurry6672
@ramencurry6672 8 ай бұрын
I used to live in Philly and visit NYC. You can park your car in one of the NJ Transit lots in new jersey and take the NJ Transit into manhattan
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. That's the whole point of this. People are concerned about the money, complaining that it will disincentivize them from coming. Well yeah, that is literally the whole point.
@BeausMom
@BeausMom 7 ай бұрын
They need to vastly improve LIRR service from Long Island before implementation. Long Island already pays an additional income tax AND crazy tolls on all the bridges if we want to go anywhere. This money is spent on NYC transit. So now, if we want to see a Broadway show, there goes another $15.
@williamsvoboda240
@williamsvoboda240 8 ай бұрын
Back in the day we would go to the Chinatown or Little Italy to get some food. If I have to pay for the food along with $15.00 Congestion pricing I am not going. To hell with Adams and Hochul.
@ezrapotter4631
@ezrapotter4631 8 ай бұрын
Public transit! Doesn’t sound like a lot to carry on the subway
@ramencurry6672
@ramencurry6672 8 ай бұрын
It’s annoying but to put it in perspective, be glad if you live near Manhattan and the NYC area despite the annoyance. I’ve been traveling around America and many cities have turned into ghost towns with population decline and there’s not much to do in those cities
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
Well people like you are the problem. The people who actually pay the insane prices to live in these neighborhoods don't want you to clog their streets with your loud, smelly, and dangerous car just because it's slightly more comfortable than taking the train.
@c.j.4620
@c.j.4620 6 ай бұрын
You would drive back in the day? Really?
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
As someone who lives in/around midtown, I CANNOT WAIT for this go into effect. I literally can't watch TV or sleep because sirens are blocked by endless traffic from morning well into the night right outside my window, and crossing avenues feels like trying to cross a 6-lane highway sometimes. It's insane and unsustainable. Cars don't belong in dense cities at all, this is just the first step. They need a total ban of all private vehicles in Manhattan, period.
@RidingWithJahv
@RidingWithJahv 7 ай бұрын
haha you really think this will give you quiet?
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 7 ай бұрын
@@RidingWithJahv It's a small step. If cars weren't on the roads, the city would feel so quiet it would be eerie.
@Atrail_Mckinley4786
@Atrail_Mckinley4786 6 ай бұрын
​​@@darkwoodmoviesIt’s a city. If you want peace and quiet, live in the suburbs or rural American towns which are much quieter.
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 6 ай бұрын
​@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 Why do we have to choose when 99% of the noise comes from mostly a luxury for
@joesal4621
@joesal4621 8 ай бұрын
I for one will Never Ever EVER eat , buy , or even spend $1 on anything in Manhattan again! Not even a bottle of water! Money will stay in my home borough! All stores and restaurants in Manhattan will lose!
@robertwilliams3527
@robertwilliams3527 8 ай бұрын
I can’t believe it’s 15 dollars 💸 Not like 3 or 5 It’s insane
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 7 ай бұрын
It's literally meant to dis-incentivize people from coming in. The fact that it generates revenue is an added bonus.
@rommelangus
@rommelangus 8 ай бұрын
Lol as far as the “scam” goes, private motorists cannot have free reigns over central business districts (downtowns, Manhattan)
@LizJit
@LizJit 8 ай бұрын
Love those earrings Sarah! Very important video as well. Thanks for covering this issue
@Don-n6o
@Don-n6o 8 ай бұрын
She always has great earrings to her stylish credit.
@florissomers1596
@florissomers1596 7 ай бұрын
In Europe it’s working. Getting cars out of the city is amazing. But USA is built mostly for cars so I hope the alternatives are great. If not: then I feel bad for the working class because then they’re hit the hardest
@beadcutter8644
@beadcutter8644 8 ай бұрын
Here's the solution: Stay TF out of NYC.
@huluhulu2222
@huluhulu2222 6 ай бұрын
I don't think a driver should be able to pay nothing to drive into the most dense and expensive place in the world. A subway round trip costs $5.80. A car round trip should cost several times that. Car travel is far far far more expensive to taxpayers than the subway, and currently car drivers don't nearly pay their own way. Yes, owning a car is expensive, but no, drivers do not cover their own costs. We spend BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS repairing roads, tunnels, and bridges that often don't have any tolls at all... that's a HUGE taxpayer subsidy. NYC is averaging 255 car deaths per year, and many times more than that in serious injuries, including children and elderly. Those deaths are terrible tragedies, ruin families, drive up costs for our society. Taxpayer dollars are far far far better invested in public transit. Congestion pricing is an erosion in the unjustified subsidies that taxpayers put into the most expensive, dangerous, inefficient mode of transportation - cars.
@robgee1129
@robgee1129 2 ай бұрын
Sorry this plan is a additional hidden tax and and any tax that is controlled by a Conglomerate can never be good Just consider the Water tax that was implemented by Bloomberg? These Schemes if implemented are a disaster. Remember we the people believe in freedom and one that is extremely important is the ability to travel unrestricted Peace best wishes
@nyk10473
@nyk10473 8 ай бұрын
Only thing you can do is vote with your feet. Refuse to be a victim for the MTA.
@Allen-by6ci
@Allen-by6ci 8 ай бұрын
You get the government you vote for
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
Well, as someone who actually lives in this area, I 100% support this decision and would 100% vote for any politician that wants to continue with it, assuming it actually cuts down traffic in practice once implemented. Because remember, it's not about you. It's about the people who actually pay rent and taxes to live in this area that you just come into for free with your car and make it a worse experience for everyone else.
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
move to the suburbs- this is nyc and this 100% going to get blocked
@huluhulu2222
@huluhulu2222 6 ай бұрын
The median income of people who drive into the congestion zone is $181,000 (source: NYTimes). Middle income and working class families are far more likely to rely on public transit. So congestion pricing is a tax on mostly wealthy people who choose the most inefficient, dangerous and expensive mode of transit... to support middle income families who take public transit. Besides, you look bougie af. You can afford it.
@Atrail_Mckinley4786
@Atrail_Mckinley4786 6 ай бұрын
Lies. Many middle and working class people drive into Manhattan and they are not rich. Congestion Pricing was bad policy and an excuse to try to give more money to a transit agency that constantly wastes billions of dollars.
@sIosha
@sIosha 8 ай бұрын
The toll amount does seem high and I question where the money will go. However, we need to start encouraging other forms of transit as much as possible. Our home cannot take it in the shorts forever.
@ryker4455
@ryker4455 8 ай бұрын
Why does anyone still live there.
@billh.1940
@billh.1940 8 ай бұрын
This will be the death knell of nyc. Why come here at all. I live in an outer borough, wont go to Manhattan any more. Some one have to get the mta and path under control.
@williamnessanbaum7464
@williamnessanbaum7464 8 ай бұрын
The female version of Cash Jordan...
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
This is one of the most ill-informed commentaries that I have ever seen on congestion tolling. I’m a transport planner/engineer/economist working internationally and all evidence has shown that this approach has worked in other cities to reduce congestion and pollution as long as the revenue generated is reinvested into public transport. There are many, many studies proving this yet the vlogger didn’t seem to do the research to understand and reference them. You do reference the quality of public transport in London and Tokyo, cities that have congestion pricing and/or modern intelligent transport systems that help to reduce traffic. The point that the congestion pricing is only from 60th Street south is also a poor argument, as other cities with congestion tolling do not apply it across the entire city or evenly throughout. Similarly, these schemes were met with resistance initially around the world, but when they did result in investments in better public transport and ITS, it had the effect of reducing traffic across the entire city. That’s why the point on just shifting traffic to other boroughs or north of 60th Street is also highly invalid, as it is not evidenced by any sort of precedent. Long story short, a special investment vehicle should be receiving and managing the revenue to ensure that it is used for projects that will improve public and non-motorized transport if it is to eventually be successful.
@kuyshina
@kuyshina 8 ай бұрын
It seems like most of the people opposed are those that drive into the congestion zone. And yes imagine $1billion going back and to public transit improvements. In order to actually see change they should make it a legally binding law. Less cars is manhattan is actually a good idea.
@rolfjacobson833
@rolfjacobson833 8 ай бұрын
agreed
@nightshiftnyc911
@nightshiftnyc911 8 ай бұрын
The company I work for is going to pass the total cost to our customers. Just like all companies will do.
@robant5578
@robant5578 8 ай бұрын
Looking at that green map at the end where they show excluded FDR and westside made me realize that these 2 , fdr and west side will be packed with traffic. Whoever took canal street or 34 street to cross the city or 6th , 2nd avenue to go up or down now will be jammed into FDR and Westside. There should be more exemptions for cars that just crossing manhattan
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
that makes to much sense and they want to get in as many peoples pockets as possible- jersey or new york doesn’t matter the more the better
@NYC1222
@NYC1222 8 ай бұрын
Great way to clear the roads for the extremely wealthy and the rich while the everyday tax payer pays for it.
@angelayala5000
@angelayala5000 8 ай бұрын
I love how nobody comments on how there's so many less vehicles in the city because of people working from home after the pandemic. So we all know this has nothing to do with pollution or traffic.
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
False, all data indicates that the number of vehicles has largely rebounded to pre-pandemic figures. Not to mention the fact that the idea of congestion tolling was original introduced by the Bloomberg Administration and approved before the pandemic.
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
governor cuomo has already come out and said he know longer supports it and now is not the time to implement it
@LuisYanes88
@LuisYanes88 8 ай бұрын
Oh man, hopefully the subway system gets some improvements!
@auggysimcity
@auggysimcity 8 ай бұрын
lol. if you only knew... i have worked in conjunction with the MTA.. the amount of money wasted is insane,, They will always get over
@zatosan729
@zatosan729 8 ай бұрын
It won't improve.
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
you do realize they don’t need this to pay for improvements - they can apply and get grants from the federal government not to mention the 2 billion dollars they receive from the government ever year.
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 7 ай бұрын
@@dionhayes5573 They barely ever get enough money to scrape by and still heavily rely on ticket revenue. The U.S. government spend literally trillions on military equipment that we don't need, but won't fund the lifeline of its most powerful economic center. America has the means that these subways should be plated in gold, not be decaying 100 year old tunnels.
@psuforever1446
@psuforever1446 8 ай бұрын
Took just a couple months in the burbs for Sarah to turn into an entitled driver who sees no other way for getting around other than cars. All this video does is amplify the whiny suburbanites and Staten Islanders while ignoring that most low-income New Yorkers (who by and large DO NOT drive to get to their jobs) will benefit from transit improvements. Can't wait for the "Is NYC TOO WOKE?" video next from this channel.
@Demonfireangel
@Demonfireangel 8 ай бұрын
LMAO if you think the toll money will go to transit improvements 🤣. You have no idea how deep the corruption runs in your beloved city. Your taxes and tolls are solely to line the pockets of the politicians and their friends.
@rolfjacobson833
@rolfjacobson833 8 ай бұрын
agreed
@Demonfireangel
@Demonfireangel 8 ай бұрын
If you actually believe the money collected from these tolls will go to help New Yorkers, then I have a bridge to sell you.
@larryk731
@larryk731 8 ай бұрын
It will make traffic at the GWB worse than it currently is. It will also make real estate in the zone less desirable and less expensive while having the opposite effect north of 60th st
@auggysimcity
@auggysimcity 8 ай бұрын
one more reason to leave nyc....
@karenkingrey6142
@karenkingrey6142 8 ай бұрын
will even using that route make things more costly for visitors? ** This actually makes me really question our 7 day vacay to NYC. It almost seems like they want only the very richest/poorest living there anymore. I mean who is living in Manhattan on $50,000 year?
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
I don't know where you're visiting from, but NYC isn't a car-centric city like the rest of America. Whether you live here or are visiting, there's almost no legitimate case for you to ever need a car. It will be faster and easier to get around by mass transit, even if it doesn't always work perfectly. BTW, car owners in NYC are almost exclusively in higher tax brackets. So either way, this doesn't affect the poor because the poor don't have cars to begin with - especially in a city like NY where they can get around perfectly well without it. Mass transit lifts people out of poverty.
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
please don’t listen to this nonsense- poor people have cars too and also middle class - not just the rich
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
@@dionhayes5573 A majority of suburban commuters (a concept that shouldn't exist in the first place, BTW) are middle class or upper middle class. Like I don't think poor people can afford the current $15 tolls, gas, and maintenance, and parking, to drive into Manhattan on a daily basis. Most poor people don't have luxurious suburban homes, they live with 5 roommates in a shoebox apartment. And ironically, those are the same people whose taxes subsidize the infrastructure that the well-off commuters use, and then they create traffic in their communities.
@Atrail_Mckinley4786
@Atrail_Mckinley4786 6 ай бұрын
​@darkwoodmovies Give me a break. There are many residents of NYCHA that own and are not rich. People who drive into NYC are not mostly wealthy. That's just nonsense. There are people who drive because they live on areas that don't have great transit access or are going to places that are not well served by transit. Just because you can take public transit doesn't mean everyone can
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 6 ай бұрын
@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 That's a fair point, but also stresses how important public transit is for the NYC region. We should have exponentially more funding (and yes, better management of said funding). This was a small step towards that, but now they'll have to find it elsewhere (AKA we won't see any expansions for decades again because the USA doesn't give AF about public transit funding).
@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762
@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762 8 ай бұрын
Charging residents of Brooklyn, Queens, and Long Island to access the mainland of the United States is criminal
@djddirty
@djddirty 8 ай бұрын
I'm with you I'm totally against the toll but Manhattan isn't mainland. It isn't attached to the rest of the state. Manhattan is an island. The only borough that is physically attached to the rest of state/mainland is the Bronx
@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762
@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762 8 ай бұрын
@@djddirty Manhattan was the last free entry point
@hejiranyc
@hejiranyc 8 ай бұрын
They can take the GWB or pay the toll.
@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762
@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762 8 ай бұрын
@hejiranyc you shouldn't be tolled to enter the rest of the United States I don't have to pay a toll to drive across the border to either Canada or Mexico
@Rodisflawless
@Rodisflawless 8 ай бұрын
Take the subway or ride a bike. Simple.
@pr0phet
@pr0phet 8 ай бұрын
What's sad is that there is no way for some people to get to the city because there's no transit system near them. All the pollution is going to be displaced in upper Manhattan and the outer boroughs. Where the Bronx has one of the highest rates of asthma in the country. And all the prices are going to be pushed onto the consumer. Taxis, restaurants, Broadway, small businesses. Reasons why traffic is so bad in NY is that Uber and Lyft are not regulated. So anyone can become a taxi driver.
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
There is no precedent to support your belief. They said the same thing in London and it didn’t turnout the way you explain.
@oliverchang7560
@oliverchang7560 6 ай бұрын
Uber and Lyft are regulated. There is a cap on how many are available since they need a TLC rideshare license and have to mark their cars.
@kaderguerrab6073
@kaderguerrab6073 8 ай бұрын
It can hurt the office market people in New Jersey westchester from coming to nyc all the businesses are against it
@ol2rap
@ol2rap 8 ай бұрын
When your grocery bill goes up again, then you will know why. Genius move NYC!!
@gueman99
@gueman99 8 ай бұрын
Elections have consequences. The people of New York City voted for the people that implemented this scheme. Here is a crazy thought, vote them out. Oh and what about commercial delivery drivers, the people that deliver all the goods to businesses? Will they pay? And guess what, those costs will be passed on to the consumer.
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
Do you understand that this scheme was proposed in 2007 and approved in 2019?
@gueman99
@gueman99 8 ай бұрын
@@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo and your point? It still can be changed by voting. People forget that the politicions and burocrats work for US. We ultimately have the power. But hey lemmings do what lemmings do. So enjoy the mess.
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
Well the people who ACTUALLY voted and live here want this. As a midtown resident, I absolutely want this and can't wait. We pay insane rents and taxes to have the privilege of living here, so we don't necessarily want a bunch of a-holes in their unnecessarily large F-150s or Suburbans coming through making the streets louder, dangerous, and inconvenient - not to mention all the issues with emergency vehicles getting stuck and whatnot, or when WE need to get a taxi somewhere, WE have to deal with YOU creating additional traffic. YOU are the traffic, and YOU are inherently the problem we're trying to get rid of (sorry not sorry). It's just completely unsustainable and we must reduce vehicles on the streets. I think commercial vehicles should be exempt, but even still. Stats constantly show that counterintuitively, when you reduce car traffic, neighborhoods become more prosperous. So I'm not too worried about the extra $30 that a storeowner will have to pay for their weekly delivery when the rent alone is like $100k.
@MichaelsMusicMix
@MichaelsMusicMix 8 ай бұрын
ANY toll like this just pushes cars onto untolled areas, as you say. There'd be a million examples of that worldwide (Sure is in lil ol Melbourne Australia where I live) Watch the toll revenue be far less than expected (see above) and your MTA improvements not happen.
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
This is completely false. Every ex-post study on congestion pricing has found that over time, it did not result in higher congestion in other areas of the city, the reduction in congestion is actually greater than the target, and the amount of revenue generated is higher than expected. Moreover, there are plenty of examples of where the revenue generated was re-invested into public transport. As long as the fund is properly managed, the investment will happen. That should be the main focus of the public at this point.
@MrAndy12878
@MrAndy12878 8 ай бұрын
Glad you brought this up, cause unfortunately there are other fees in the city as well that are ridiculous.
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
This is not a “ridiculous fee”. Similar schemes have been successfully incorporated all over many modern cities.
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
it’s definitely a scam.
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
@@dionhayes5573, This is not a scam. Similar schemes have been used around the world to overwhelming success.
@eddiecordero2877
@eddiecordero2877 8 ай бұрын
I drive down 2nd Ave to go across the 59th st bridge. I haven’t heard anyone say if the toll will be enforced since I am not driving further downtown
@Mikeylunares4368
@Mikeylunares4368 8 ай бұрын
Yes even you're going into the 59th st bridge they will still charge the toll which is ridiculous.
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
Here's a wild idea. Don't drive to 2nd ave, take the train.
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
make the train safer and mor people will rid
@jwinder2
@jwinder2 6 ай бұрын
Congestion pricing would be fine as a way to incentivize the use of public transportation, if public transportation were upgraded at the same time across the board to facilitate the changes. Everyone basically agrees that driving into Manhattan is already expensive and inconvenient, but for many people that do it, there are no good options, as the public transportation infrastructure isn't built up to current demands, let alone a large increase in usage. It is an absurd idea that congestion pricing would be used solely for the upgrading of the subway system, when the people paying are people that aren't served by the subway system. I say this as someone who has lived in New Jersey for decades, on a street with several bus routes in front of my building that can fill up before they even get to my stop during certain hours of the day, and are subject to disastrous delays on occasion due to problems at the Lincoln Tunnel; one of my commutes last December took more than three hours for what is normally less than a half an hour to Port Authority. I avoid driving into the City more than a couple of times a year, but I know many other people that aren't nearly as well served as I am by public transportation, even with the flaws that pop up at times.
@alanartme1
@alanartme1 8 ай бұрын
TECHNICAL QUESTION - I really love the way your video looks. It really looks like real film and not video. Kudos to your editor and colorist. Can you possibly tell me what Luts you use to get that look? Thank you so very much...Alan in New York....
@ezrapotter4631
@ezrapotter4631 8 ай бұрын
1:05 so you don’t get charged going in over the weekend?
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
of course you do - this is a money grab
@stewartabernathy6436
@stewartabernathy6436 8 ай бұрын
The MTA just needs to go ahead and take the next step. Put an identifying mark on each person's forehead or hand then charge them for access. Oh, wait that sounds strangely familiar...... 😂😂😂
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
Sounds very familiar. Like all the other idiotic attempts to compare this to some totalitarian government overreach, while conveniently forgetting that roads themselves are a government handout where the government exclusively has the authority to decide who is allowed to use them or not, and government-funded police can stop and regulate you at any time. You see, when I apply the same stupidity, it can make the other side of the table seem even worse.
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
you make no sense - please go read a book
@dan_air_houston
@dan_air_houston 6 ай бұрын
Theyll charge vehicles, the excuse is "to improve the MTA" except many cities have great subways without congestion pricing. Many people will simply stop going into the city, many will take the subway instead, which sucks and is already crowded enough. They say the money will go to the subway, but how many promises have been broken by the NY government, so why would anyone believe them when they say "it'll fund the subway"
@DonnaDonna2023
@DonnaDonna2023 8 ай бұрын
Can’t wait to get to NYC November 2024!! Thank you so much for your videos, love them all!! ❤
@steves1749
@steves1749 8 ай бұрын
As a NY'er... enough is enough.. I hope everyone works from home and Manhattan closes down. Except the Theater district.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 8 ай бұрын
This actually normal in other country. If that city have good public transportation. But it's still jammed because people still have to use private cars.
@eggy6857
@eggy6857 8 ай бұрын
Ban personal cars completely. Invest more in public transport.
@dans.3155
@dans.3155 8 ай бұрын
come down out of your ivy tower. Mass transit isn't convenient to everyone. And a billion dollars doesn't go very far for expanding mass transit.
@byungsong2819
@byungsong2819 8 ай бұрын
Haha nyc subway is joke!! You are gonna feel unsafe for sure. I know it
@nikosniko7092
@nikosniko7092 8 ай бұрын
It’s not Europe - USA is super dangerous in transit - so many drug addicts and mentals roaming
@jeannovacco5136
@jeannovacco5136 8 ай бұрын
In effect, THE GREAT MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE EXCLUDED FROM PUBLIC SPACES, and regularly excluded from access to business, retailers, entertainment, and even government offices.
@CuriousEarthMan
@CuriousEarthMan 8 ай бұрын
Extending the 2nd avenue line? That's the giant money pit that will drain any or all the revenue if allowed to. The pricing will fill the grift trough. they'll feed on it until pricing has to rise.
@hejiranyc
@hejiranyc 8 ай бұрын
If you voted for Hochul for governor in 2022, you voted for this. The Republican candidate Lee Zeldin vowed to stop congestion pricing. Y'all had the chance and y'all blew it.
@jeannovacco5136
@jeannovacco5136 8 ай бұрын
These fees or fines only BURDEN people with limited discretionary income who do NOT need to pass through Manhattan very often. Do your own research and find out how wealthy AOC has become since her District sent her to Congress. If YOU are THAT MUCH BETTER OFF since she won a slim Democrat majority in a primary where the district's long time Democrat Congressman was too lazy to defend his seat -- then you probably voted correctly for your own interests. If your net worth HASN'T skyrocketed, if you've built up no financial cushion beyond your credit cards, then probably not so much. The Democrat Party IS A MACHINE, with gears that can GRIND UP the hopes & dreams & liberties of working people with taxes & tolls & electronic subway tokens. Face facts. "The Party" is NOT a blue team sports franchise, or a religion, or a cultural club. It's NOT "who we are." It's also NOT supporting actual democracy with democratic referendums on important issues that IMPACT many City residents daily. It's people who want to be paid -- and paid well -- for running other people's lives, and doing it badly because they are never held accountable. Why not? Hope Springs Eternal. And that's not always a good thing when hopes keep getting dashed. The direction that NYC has been going is not going to change UNTIL voters change. That HAS happened before. It's more than time for the pendulum to swing back the other way -- otherwise it turns into a wrecking ball.
@RidingWithJahv
@RidingWithJahv 7 ай бұрын
1 billion bucks is a 4% increase in the mta budget. Would a 4% raise for a household fix all of its problems? theres your answer.
@citationneeded5196
@citationneeded5196 7 ай бұрын
OH you literally don’t know what you’re talking abojt
@bikeny
@bikeny 8 ай бұрын
I don't mind the traffic noise, but please, do not play any music while you are talking. It gets in the way of paying attention to you. I don't know if you cover the issue, but the other day it was pointed out that there 2 spots where you have to pay attention to which exit ramp you are taking with regards to the 59th street bridge and coming off the FDR. It seems if the route so much as touches a city street, bang, $15 hit.
@rolfjacobson833
@rolfjacobson833 8 ай бұрын
Sarah, I am huge fan. I am the guy whose sister owns Panza Verde. I have actually watched every one of your videos! Crazy huh? But this video has really disturbed me. The cost of cars in the city is actually being paid by everyone if you have a car or not. The public transit uses are subsidizing car traffic with their taxes to pay for the crazy amount of infrastructural cost that car need. Yep the cost of Car Culture has everyone paying regardless if you have a car or not. Car drivers are getting befits without paying the full price. So a fee to offset the costs that cars create ( congestion, pollution, noise, space and a million other things) on the actual users is fair. It is only collecting a small amount on the people causing the whole issue. Cities are for people not cars. Also I was very troubled with your attitude about people who live outside the city and drive into town should not have to pay anything for the whole system that they are benefiting and exploiting. Fees are the only way that the city can recoup anything from the people who visit and don’t pay taxes. It’s like saying that entering Disneyland should be free to all and the cost is distribute to everyone if they go there or not. And you saying that it’s unfair to the poor. Well currently the poor have to pay for the Car system in their taxes even without owning a car. Using the poor as an excuse to stop people from having to pay for their choices of owning a car is wrong. Have the uses pay the loin sure. It works in every other aspect of life but with Cars and parking people have been convinced eve4ryone should have to pay. Please watch another youtuber that will help you understand all of this, 'City Nerd' and 'Adam Something' i recommend both.
@AlmofidBdarija
@AlmofidBdarija 8 ай бұрын
Do you pay fees every time you drive out of NYC ? by your logic all cities and towns should have moats around them and no one can drive in unless they pay a toll. What makes you think NYC is that special ? maybe New Yorkers should pay 100s of dollars more for all their deliveries because those trucks have to cross other cities and states to get to you. What kind of stupid logic is this ???
@danielgines8401
@danielgines8401 8 ай бұрын
Yeah im with that groceries are gonna be expensive
@AiselOmerbashi
@AiselOmerbashi 8 ай бұрын
Congestion pricing is horrible. You can always find reasons to charge people, but we're already paying 60% of our checks in taxes. They can use our taxes money to fix the city, and not send $108 billion to Israhell to help them commit genocide. Toll $15 is insanely high. I thought it was going to be $1-$2 to support the subway, which even that's not fair since we all pay a lot, a lot of taxes to take care of this type of stuff.
@durece100
@durece100 8 ай бұрын
Not true. Congestion pricing is better to reducing cars. Don't drive to New York by car.
@AiselOmerbashi
@AiselOmerbashi 8 ай бұрын
Buddy, because you can't afford a car, doesn't mean that the world should live your lifestyle. The world doesn't rotate around you. We should all live the way we want. I want to drive, you want to ride the subway, someone wants to cycle, someone else wants to bike, walk, rollerblade, electric vehicles, etc etc etc. We shouldn't approve when they charge others, because no one will protect you when they charge you $10 one way on subway. Congestion pricing has nothing to do with the congestion, they're just stealing our money. Now all car companies are moving to electric cars, which they do 0% congestion.
@durece100
@durece100 8 ай бұрын
@@AiselOmerbashi How stupid are you? You ignore the air pollution from cars and make everyone feel ill and all you want is to drive whatever you want? Get a life and stop being a loser!
@Giuseppe_1994
@Giuseppe_1994 8 ай бұрын
Blue no matter who! I love car taxes, (supposed to pay for the roads) then charging congestion fees as well. Tax me baby, I don’t even care about representation. Newcomers for Biden ❤
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
yes please just tax the idiots- that would be fantastic.
@muneca067
@muneca067 3 ай бұрын
It’s bs and majority of that money will not go into the system . Somebody will get richer. The residents cannot afford another hit in their pay checks and it’s weekly thing. Rent is extremely high, parking garages are insane , more congestion on the subway, trains n buses where there isn’t barely police present . Focus on helping the residents and build more garages with reasonable prices . How can a young adult who is only making minimum wage n 1/2 of his or her paycheck is gone n have rent to pay ?
@ezrapotter4631
@ezrapotter4631 8 ай бұрын
7:08 residents in CPZ aren’t exempt?!! 🤯
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
Like 90% of them don't even own a car, it doesn't make any sense. The point is to reduce cars, no matter where they come from.
@erickjerland1281
@erickjerland1281 8 ай бұрын
Hi Sarah my nephew is moving to NY. He got a job working for meta. I’m visiting NY in June. After seeing the video I won’t be renting a car. In Paris there is talk of making Champs Elysee in a garden to reduce air pollution.
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
be very careful on the train - it’s truly not safe - don’t believe look it up on youtube for yourself. its always something happening l
@shaunbava1801
@shaunbava1801 8 ай бұрын
The MTA has an open pit fire they shovel money into. It's always "we don't have money" yet they have high fares(at least on LIRR and MetroNorth), they have their own income tax. Perhaps if they made the riders pay the fare and actually kept the crazy people out of the trains/stations they wouldn't have such issues. The system never gets better, only worse. What is telling is there is scant little they have built yet I'd bet the service is more unreliable today than when they took it over from the companies that built the system back in the 1940's BEFORE computers. They absolutely will not fix the transit system it is a cesspool, just look at the money they've wasted on buildings while not fixing the infrastructure. The biggest issue will be the unintended consequence that costs will go up for everything in that congestion zone. The next issue is that this will drive lots of traffic to queens, Brooklyn, Manhattan above 60th st. and Jersey City places that honestly already have traffic as bad as the congestion zone in the most developed parts honestly the worst traffic I've ever sat in my life has been in Brooklyn because the subway is pretty poor for moving between certain parts of Brooklyn.
@webesmith
@webesmith 8 ай бұрын
Wait until you see the traffic north of 60th st. It's going to be epic. The Westside Hwy will be a parking lot with everyone exiting at 79th St. And since every product that people buy are trucked in by trucks paying $25-35 a day, the price of everything will go up. And all the maintenance. service and delivery trucks are going to pass this cost on too.
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
That is not remotely close to how it has played out in numerous other cities with congestion pricing. Regarding the costs rising, you do understand that it is a flat fee, right? Yes, the cost may go up, but it’s not like each truck contains one case of water for example. Even if there were only 100 cases of water could fit on the truck, that would mean the cost of a case of water could go up by $0.25. What it should do is force cargo handlers/delivery companies to be more efficient to minimize unit costs.
@David-et1qq
@David-et1qq 8 ай бұрын
@@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo A Nickle here a quarter there adds up when it touches every product sold in the city. I worked in the city for 30 years and we had a lot of contractors doing work in our office. $25 extra for each truck of painter, electricians, HVAC, carpenters, equipment deliveries etc. will add up.
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
@@David-et1qq, If you’re talking about the construction/renovation of a commercial building, then there is actually less of an economic impact on the end users, not a greater impact, which seems to be what you’re implying. I’ve worked on transport planning for 25 years and economics for about 15. It seems that you don’t understand how this works. Perhaps you should educate yourself before commenting?
@marrkzulunuz
@marrkzulunuz 7 ай бұрын
Dear MTA; Move the zone to 155th and down. Thanks.
@vorzap
@vorzap 8 ай бұрын
NYC drivers already enjoy hunting and terrorizing pedestrians and cyclists in some of the most populated areas of the city. Why shouldn’t they have a daily hunting permit? Also the drive around argument doesn’t make a lot of sense. If your destination is below 60th st in manhattan, then how will driving around get you there?
@durece100
@durece100 8 ай бұрын
Build more busways on wide roads in NYC. No personal vehicles allowed on roads. Don't go to NYC by car. Stay in your own state. This might cause traffic congestion.
@Thnsrd42
@Thnsrd42 8 ай бұрын
@SarahFunky Unfortunately, the congestion charge is just another taxing regime that will not be spent where they say it will be. For all New Yorkers, BEWARE! Do not be fooled by this being confined to mid and Lower Manhattan. London started with the central London congestion charge. That charge then expanded to the area within the North and South Circular road network (Zones 2 and 3) under ULEZ (Ultra Low Emission Zone). It now covers all 603 square miles of Greater London. This expansion and the increase in charge over the years has proved very unpopular with car owning Londoners and the counties that are immediately next to the Greater London area. Now they are thinking of replacing ULEZ with charging car/van drivers per mile all over Greater London! All this could eventually be coming to New York!
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
Yes, the London scheme was expanded because it worked so well; however, it does not cover all of Zones 2 and 3 as you imply. More importantly, and this is where New York City needs to get it right, the revenue generated was invested in public transport and non-motorized transport infrastructure improvements.
@s.macintosh-jc9rf
@s.macintosh-jc9rf 8 ай бұрын
Hi Sarah, Thank you for bringing this fee to our attention. It looks like a blatant cash grab no matter how you look at it! As usual Sarah it’s a pleasure, Peter
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo
@LeMagnifiqueDoubleAgent-cj4zo 8 ай бұрын
It does not need to be a “blatant cash grab” as long as residents of NYC hold the authorities to task in reinvesting the revenue.
@henrygustav7948
@henrygustav7948 6 ай бұрын
It would be amazing for people to understand money and where it comes from.
@VinCredibleVin
@VinCredibleVin 8 ай бұрын
They have to clear all those lawsuits before they can get this BS cash grab scheme started
@ezrapotter4631
@ezrapotter4631 8 ай бұрын
I would think
@brenthaugen1270
@brenthaugen1270 8 ай бұрын
NYC is a giant woke shitbox.
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
A giant woke shitbox that's about to have fewer cars in Manhattan. That way we can get back to what really matters, carrying the U.S. economy and basically running the world.
@dexternicholson4654
@dexternicholson4654 7 ай бұрын
Why are you watching a video about it?
@annabelleecho8056
@annabelleecho8056 8 ай бұрын
Sarah I think it is very clever that you hid an undetectable mic and a camera in those earrings. Fashion Seal of Approval!
@barneyfyfe8313
@barneyfyfe8313 8 ай бұрын
Not a scam. It's an anti-business money grab.
@DANNYN224
@DANNYN224 8 ай бұрын
No nh is not suing a new report came out saying the congestion pricing will be implemented
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
they have multiple law suits pending this 100% going to be blocked. The mta has jumped the gun and put a start date out there that they cannot confirm or guarantee. They tried to throw money at new jersey to make them go away but it didn’t work and they are still moving forward with there suit
@allornadaaccordingtojack7601
@allornadaaccordingtojack7601 8 ай бұрын
Yes, it is a scam!! Don't think I'll go back to that crime ridden, expensive cesspool anytime soon.
@kennymichaelalanya7134
@kennymichaelalanya7134 8 ай бұрын
NYC is the first to implement this but other big cities will follow suit.
@QuiLe-qw5jb
@QuiLe-qw5jb 8 ай бұрын
Smartest NYER Voted for Smartest Leaders. Now they got Smartest Results!!! 😅
@mykellacarter7322
@mykellacarter7322 8 ай бұрын
MTA hopefully improve the system . . .but definitely need to track the money
@MrAphilli
@MrAphilli 8 ай бұрын
plans are there for expansion as well as improvements most of the projects in the mta's plans are out of reach due to budget, people never look at the way roads are managed, they just complain about public transit..... also, why tf are you driving into Lower Manhattan there is no reason other than convenience.
@willcox4561
@willcox4561 8 ай бұрын
...For 2023/2024 New York State’s population is 19,795,791 with a state budget of $230 Billion. Florida has a population of 22,975,931 with a state budget of $117 Billion. Florida has NO state income tax. There are 3,180,140 more people in Florida than in New York State. Yet, New York’s budget is double that of Florida. So, what does this tell you about New York’s politicians? These number vary a little depending (not materially) on which website is used for this information, but the story is the same.
@darkwoodmovies
@darkwoodmovies 8 ай бұрын
I can't speak on Florida, but I know Texas... and their tax revenues aren't exactly lower because of no state income tax. They make it up in other ways. For example, California has very high income taxes, but very low property taxes compared to other states like Texas, and when you add it all up it actually levels out for most income brackets. I'm sure Florida is similar to Texas in this regard. Also, in case you were going to make this political, Washington state is your counterexample.
@willcox4561
@willcox4561 8 ай бұрын
@@darkwoodmovies You really don't get it. It's about all the wasteful spending in New York.
@dexternicholson4654
@dexternicholson4654 7 ай бұрын
Wait until Florida has legacy infrastructure as well as legacy pension obligations. Property taxes and insurance is much higher in Florida. Also social services are terrible in Florida give it a couple of years and people in Florida will leave. As some have done after the pandemic. You cannot have infrastructure for over a hundred years while also paying more into the government to fund other states and not need to find new ways to pay for things. I really wish every state couldn’t receive more money than they contribute.
@willcox4561
@willcox4561 7 ай бұрын
@@dexternicholson4654 Typical Democrat. You’re hopeless
@garygarber-p8q
@garygarber-p8q 8 ай бұрын
Can you say Slush Fund for the governor? Don't think a billion will do much of anything in NYC costs are too high. I know how to avoid the costs Leave NY state. Oh and Please do not move to where I live.
@motorman1700
@motorman1700 8 ай бұрын
As for the problem of creating more traffic outside the congestion pricing zone, they'll create more congestion pricing zones. See, problem solved! 🤣 This is just the beginning folks.
@bbriyes
@bbriyes 8 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see Adams' new gold-plated mansion in the Hamptons! WOO!
@danielgines8401
@danielgines8401 8 ай бұрын
Bay Ridge is about to be packed to get on that R line.
@bedandbreakfast4033
@bedandbreakfast4033 6 ай бұрын
They paused this today at least until election
@TowardTreatise
@TowardTreatise 8 ай бұрын
Just thought I'd add that inflation is a global poor tax. 💙
@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762
@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762 8 ай бұрын
The need build an overnight holding facility for fare evaders
@dionhayes5573
@dionhayes5573 8 ай бұрын
it’s just going to worse - people already are not paying the already expensive tolls - you really think there going to pay another toll??”
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