Spider-Man No Way Home MEMORY WIPE Finally Explained!

[@safwanbaksh2224]

I think what's important to remember is that what happened in the past hasn't changed, it's only the memories of Peter in others' heads and the records of Peter

[@camronsever9526]

Exactly I don’t know why everyone think past event would be altered

[@silverdiamond13]

Yeah, I don't know why Erik thinks past events were altered

[@missrocks]

Records... ...so... ...no school records ...no financial records ...no social security number ...no birth certificate 🤔 ...that, could be a problem

[@nestorflores7782]

What about Tony’s glasses in far from home?

[@YodatheHobbit]

@@silverdiamond13 he doesn't. He never said they would be altered. But records and memories of those past events were altered.

[@zainqureshi2849]

This movie was a rollercoaster for the younger generation, and a rollercoaster of emotions for those who grew up on Toby and Andrew

[@PicassoDickly]

bruh

[@EggwolI]

Ikr

[@naufal.._.]

I know

[@jasonsmith6658]

On point

[@Johnny_Janitor]

Yep

[@TheChrisDV]

You’re overlooking the most obvious explanation for Peter’s education: with May dead and everyone else who could take him in forgetting that he exists, Peter has had to drop out of school to get a job so he can pay for things like food or an apartment.

[@bobdickens3674]

Yea, it’s a bit of an over-analysis to say that his academic records were just erased

[@akapeegly6463]

i see what both of you mean and i sort of agree, but there are alot of jobs that dont really require an education, i mostly see the ged book at the end hinting he will have to skip school and study on his own free time to make up for the things he wont learn in school no more

[@akapeegly6463]

until of course college, but from what we can see, if movie happened in december, they modt likely still have 5 or so months of school left

[@chocolatemilk679]

@@akapeegly6463 taking the GED is so he can get to college, not to study on his own as why would he need a GED to study on his own?

[@keane4464]

Mr Ditcovich is back for rent

[@jermainehaslam5634]

It was so heartbreaking how he lost everyone he loved in this movie, losing Aunt May, Ned, MJ and even Happy and Peter embracing his tragic destiny of being a superhero forever at the end of the movie!

[@thenexus8384]

And that he was willing to do it most likely knowing this

[@ahoysam1634]

And that was his fault as well in the first place.

[@jethawk1172]

Quite literally no way home

[@Stark.ae734]

People say that Thor is the avenger who lost the most but its actually spidey, also peter is only 17, whereas thor is 1500 out of 5000+. Another reason I say this is because he not only lost everybody he loved and cared for, he lost his chance of a successful future, his high tech suits etc.

[@qwentingreer6793]

​@ahoysam1634 No, it wasn't mysterio is responsible for everything and mess up Peter's and everybody lives and manipulated everybody.

[@LB-ih7hn]

The Spidey sense scene was phenomenal. Honestly Tom Holland’s emotional delivery is outstanding. The fact that he stood out amongst all these great actors is incredible. For me Tom’s the MVP of this movie.

[@Goatedjaden04]

Nah it was Andrew

[@KittenchaosYT]

@@Goatedjaden04 explain

[@BACKDOORBROWNIE710]

Tom and willem dafoe.

[@djodyssey99]

@@KittenchaosYT One word: Redemption.

[@prashantkumar4t]

@@djodyssey99 yes, the moment he cried after saving MJ he was the hero.

[@SACHINACHARYA]

"People have these experiences. They start forgetting the person they knew, but they are still affected by the events that happened". This line hits HARD.

[@tonyroach9415]

Lol

[@HC-gm4fo]

It’s like kingdom hearts- Even though memories fade, emotions are etched into the heart

[@georgelundy24]

You couldn't have said it any better!! 👏🏾👏🏾💯

[@leoatrulionking7772]

Dementia/memory loss is a serious thing. Here, Peter is the one suffering wishing he had it too😢

[@cursedvhstape2443]

I don’t think the GED thing necessarily implies that Peter’s entire academic history was erased. He was still a few months off from graduating and staying away from Midtown and instead electing to take the GED could have been part of his effort to create distance between himself and his friends

[@djsejwal2]

Yes they ahve kept it open. He chose to leave school i think.

[@rushwin01]

One question was his academic year was ruined because of 5years blip and other is his identity about spiderman is gone and he has no longer intern in stark industries

[@sabaahjauhar-rizvi7647]

Bingo

[@estrioleyin5667]

I think the one erased is the existence of Peter Parker itself... so all record about peter parker was erased...even including birth certificate... so basically he does not have any id now... never recorded any academic history... he might also considered illegal citizen now...

[@rushwin01]

@@estrioleyin5667 Point to be noted but he gets job at bugle without any identity

[@tommuinnit]

The fact that Ned no longer remembers Peter would make it allloooot easier for him to become a villain…

[@LTMM_]

10 bucks for Ned to get the symbiote.

[@WeAreOneIAmThey]

@@LTMM_ Ned's unfortunately won't get that 10 bucks

[@spoik4541]

10 bucks he becomes hobgoblin

[@depressedtraingirl1056]

“I promise I won’t become a supervillain and try to kill you”

[@babymylo4909]

@@depressedtraingirl1056 yah but now he doesnt remember being peters friend or even saying that

[@sense6552]

You can’t say that they just don’t remember Peter being there with him and then say, “he might’ve never sat next to Betty” It doesn’t rewrite what happens. It doesn’t alter what happened in the past, Ned would just have no recollection as to why he sat next to Betty

[@TheEddieguy82]

everyone that loved him and knew him would have no memory of him being there, but he was he was like MJ a loner

[@PalePixl]

Wouldn't that mean that even though the emotional bond that most characters have shared with Spiderman remain? if so, Peter would reveal himself as Spiderman and that would allow those who connected with Spiderman to carry over that connection to Peter. Ned and MJ were saved plenty by him, so they would have that bond regardless and just realise they now have a face to the name. He could go to Happy and the avengers and simply reveal his identity and they would remember everything he did for them while being the masked kid from queens

[@antonydandrea]

That's what's confusing me

[@ArmedandDangerous918]

That makes a lot of sense actually

[@Cristian_Adejandro98]

Yeah he did experience and did everything the same he just never took off the mask while it would clear up somethings it would be the same as in the beginning of the movie where news and villans would go after his old freinds and loved ones who he is trying to protect with his secret identity like in the comics sometimes keeping the mask on eis safer for not just him but everyone else

[@macek1455]

That’s certainly an option that might even turn out really well, but I watched a video recently that goes into how everyone losing their memories is actually a really good thing for Peter’s character. Its an evolution into the more classic broke college student version of Peter who has a responsibility towards Spiderman and who now understands the risks to anyone who knows his identity. Peter has lost everyone that has ever loved him, and even Ned and MJ were at risk because of him being Spiderman. Now he truly understands why he has to keep his identity secret, and honestly the potential for good angst in the next movies is mind-blowing. It would be a shame for the writers to spend the next couple movies trying to revert peter into who he was during his time with the Avengers instead of moving forward with his character. Also, the Avengers are so split up now and that it might be hard to even organize a reveal scene. But yeah, who knows what will happen in the next movies! I just can’t wait to find out.

[@MDCxThePG]

Ned had a connection to him that was before Spiderman. They were best friends before that point. So him carrying over a connection from being saved by Spiderman wouldn't be as emotionally attached as being someone's best friend for years

[@Gods_Righteous_Man]

I think the trinkets are going to play a major role in Peter reintroducing himself to those once close to him. It’s important to remember that while everyone else has forgotten Peter Parker, Peter still retains memories of everything. Therefore a telepath/ mind reader would believe his story, and might help others remember too. Maybe Professor X 🤔

[@caimcintosh702]

holy shit

[@DarkNookShop]

Seems like he could have gone to strange the next day and been like, you cast the runes of kablablah to erase everybody's memories of me, including yours, to save the universe. Like you did for that full moon party thing... and strange would be like, yeah that sounds like something I'd do.

[@tandoori_guy]

That would be so awesome

[@Gods_Righteous_Man]

@@tandoori_guy I know right!!

[@jardex2275]

@@DarkNookShop "And we did all that because I couldn't get into MIT and" *Slams door in Peter's face.*

[@pieceofgosa]

That all seems fair but you can tell from that interview that the writers didn't ever go to this level of thought. Frankly the rules will be whatever the writer of the next MCU Spidey movie wants them to be.

[@mastere6115]

Well, I guess you can't tell that, since the writers clearly were going a very similar route, and admitted to having discussed it prior to making the film... He even brings that point near the beginning of the video...

[@zachh6868]

@@mastere6115 yeah, but if they want to change it later to make a better story they can, because they didn't specify in the actually released content

[@bluesins9963]

I wonder what about tva

[@hanmetalworks]

@@bluesins9963 tva exists outside of this reality

[@meowski617]

@@hanmetalworks They have records on everything and magic cannot work there. Could be the way memories get restored.

[@Galaxy-24]

Flashpoint is probably now an autobiography about 1. Flash (obviously) and 2. His experiences of Spiderman and his supposed friendship with the hero, despite never knowing who he is under the mask, which likely only got published because of his rich parents.

[@londonreturns]

My headcanon is, it went from "kinda fact" to fiction

[@logansmith2703]

Ngl read this and was VERY confused what the connection between Spidey and a DC hero was.

[@horseoperamarker]

@@logansmith2703 lmaoo

[@Galaxy-24]

@@londonreturns that's what I said

[@londonreturns]

@@Galaxy-24 I'm you but faster

[@jeffgoespewpew7189]

So I'm calling it, a hug between Peter Parker and happy will give happy his memories back.. the handshake between him and Ned will give back Ned's memories, and a kiss with MJ on school roof will give hers.. memories aren't always lost ,just forgotten. And they just need a push to come back

[@K1NG0FW0LV35]

this is just heartbreaking.... Peter not only lost his aunt but he lost his girlfriend and best friend.... and the most heartbreaking thing.... Tony... the person he looked up to... no one who was close to him will know anything about the relationship they had and they'll just see him as a stranger.

[@OfficialDuhreel]

That’s just a arc character need it for growth just like the other peters who lost everything

[@RiceChrispy0527]

This could end up explaining a pivot towards him being a photo journalist for the Daily Bugle.

[@Von.Scrungy]

Yeah, it may end up being more of a case of him trying to help Spiderman's public image through the media.

[@semajclark6560]

Going back to the old Peter Parker and how he used to make his money from the Daily Bugle

[@alphanerd7221]

@@Von.Scrungy Probably just needs money. Now he has no employment history or references. That's generally why people go into being paparazzi.

[@luizrafael2871]

Doctor Strange can't manipulate time because he doesn't have the time stone. Also Doctor Strange, can manipulate minds and reality without the mind and reality stone

[@KayBreezie]

Hence the strange name

[@jackmacy5077]

Facts

[@lilac951]

Classic marvel 😆

[@trollzynisaacjohan1793]

Because the forces they represent still exist.

[@patax144]

Wanda did the same thing, Agatha did too so is not that big of a deal, I think, it is stablished in Wandavision and mental manipulation and reality manipulation can be made by magic users without the stones, Sorcerers can also create portals through space without the space stone, unless the sling rings have space stone fragments, or something like that, but you can guess the stones can manipulate those aspects on a bigger level and diferent runes and objects could approximate the power of the stones.

[@jovankandola]

Ned must also be randomly missing a palpatine from his Death Star lego set since Peter puts it in his apartment at the end of no way home

[@mellofan2012]

Facts

[@unseenasian132]

He')( probably just blame it on lego sometimes missing several pieces or yeah

[@TheBlinkisback09]

The death star was brought to Happys apartment though

[@akashseth1474]

It's funny how in the Civil war the first appearance of Peter, he mentions that he would have liked to play football, but since he couldn't then he shouldn't now. The endgame battle kind of offers that opportunity, where "spiderman is passing the gauntlet from person to person".

[@bigbadwoodo]

I think Nick Fury could be a huge part of getting him basic documents back, remember everybody on the planet got memory erased, and Nick was on the moon at the time, thus it wouldn't be a huge leap in logic to say he helps him out.

[@sintro159]

but if people far away like thor and guardians of the galaxy were affected then fury was too

[@newkingscontent8533]

The spells cross with different known and unknown realities

[@smoothphuzion7716]

And we gotta remember that Peter was also a part of the blip. His paperwork could have disappeared with his disappearance and he's "just now getting it resolved"

[@Thechickenmafia]

Why is nick on the moon

[@M1miuotakv]

Nope, all of is academic record has erased so is his docs with Nick fury

[@SharkandMinno]

I think it's more that there's a mental block for everyone when trying to remember, and that every memory related to Peter is incredibly blurry, like a forgotten dream.

[@BryanFritchie]

Then he'd still have his diploma & his Tony Stark designed suits, etc etc.

[@biga7682]

like when you have an old friend who you remember hanging out with but don’t quite remember his name or face

[@drishalballaney]

probably something like Dr Who

[@hoshisakha8771]

yeah thats what i think too

[@xxmension04xx47]

Wait...that would technically mean people could remember him

[@danthelion34]

I think Wong still remembers who Peter Parker is. The line "Just leave me out of it." is what I am clinging on. Plus, Wong is trusted by every Avenger.

[@kennynguyen2936]

Wong*

[@envidjunkie]

You're not Wong

[@anu9212]

@@envidjunkie aren't you strange

[@darksoulzz7779]

Really mysterio

[@thenexus8384]

Peter needs to go to Wong to get help in the next film (if there will be a next film)

[@DonyeaMosley]

Peter switched suits because the gadgets in his suits no longer function. It was hinted at during the movie where it said one of his functions were offline. Presumably to me because Tony isn’t living. So pepper saw no need to keep those things running taking up money & resources.

[@zachh6868]

On top of that, Stark Indistries had things confiscated due to their workings with the supposed murderer/terroristSpiderman, so thay probably includes disablingthe suits, or at least the ability to recharge the suits

[@crush41gb]

Yeppers, after the Stark tech investigation and confiscation all tech was down probably due to servers being taken down. You can see this on the bridge attack. At least the suit technically still works in terms of functionality and suiting up and down.

[@justonian_]

The Stark network was shut down after an investigation opened. So his tech is now on the open market. Lol

[@KingShibe]

No, the Stark network was just down.

[@justonian_]

@@KingShibe Stark network was “offline” according to Spider-Man’s ai because it was “shut down” and implied by Damage Control (DODC) while Peter was being investigated for Mysterio’s death.

[@cosmiclaziness]

Maybe Wong still knows Peter is Spiderman because he asked to be left out of it, and Strange agreed.

[@squigglypeterson7157]

The KEY point and words were spoken by Wong when he said..."Just leave me out of this." So Wong will ALWAYS remember Peter Parker and SpiderMans history. Wong can explain to Dr.Strange and domino effect after that. BOOM!!!

[@squigglypeterson7157]

Idc if I liked and commented on my own comment. My Wong LoopHole is Legit

[@DumpTruckOfH]

I'd wager that reality altering magic only changes the memory of ppl and not the events themselves so tony would've done what he did, it's just that if he was alive, he would've remembered a masked peter.

[@ronthorn3]

Right I just checked the magic Encyclopedia and yup, facts.

[@ChrissaTodd]

I am kind of glad he's dead in this case so we'd never have to experience a tony that never met peter outside the mask in a sense

[@adrianhablado8186]

i agree it would be way simpler to just say- everything that happened, happened- but instead of peter- it was a masked spiderman.

[@Phelie315]

Either a masked Spiderman or just blurry memories where for some reason people can't remember Peters involvement but don't really notice the memory is blurry.

[@GCCJN123]

@@ChrissaTodd tho if Tony is alive the event in Far From Home won’t happen since Tony won’t give Edith to Peter so Mysterio won’t even appear, I guess.

[@ShatteredGlass916]

"Your desecration of reality will not go . . . unpunished . . . ." Such as: - using timestone to time loop during his bargain with Dormammu - using timestone, again, to checked multiple futures - NWH memory wipe that almost shattered reality itself

[@Sir_ArthurDayne]

Lazy writing

[@EnzoPepsiCola]

@@Sir_ArthurDayne no it isn't. He'll get some kind of backlash

[@Sir_ArthurDayne]

@@EnzoPepsiCola As he should. No wonder he lost the Sorcerer Supreme title.

[@EnzoPepsiCola]

@@Sir_ArthurDayne he lost is because he was blipped 😂😂 he'll get it back. We'll see what ramifications there are in the future, perhaps Christine will die

[@Sir_ArthurDayne]

@@EnzoPepsiCola Are Evil strange and Strange supreme from What if the same person?

[@RJ-xc9cg]

So, theoretically, all they needed to do was originally wipe Quentin Beck from everyone’s memory?

[@juiccccyyyy]

lmao, fax

[@emanuelgonzalez1975]

……….. bruh

[@jiaying8169]

but people might still have a memory of pete killing someone though no..? idk i read it somewhere too

[@frog6054]

@@jiaying8169 Or how about erasing the memories of Spiderman killing someone?

[@billr64]

Actually all Dr. strange needed to do was just undo Beck ever having made that clip.

[@TRAILLER]

My headcanon is that those who died are unchanged. In the revised timeline the only Avenger who knew spiderman secret identity was Tony Stark. The revision made it so he did not tell anyone and erased his investigative work. contacted Peter and told him to go to X place with a mask an a password where Happy would pick him up. Peter sews a suit to work under until he crack the programing of the Stark suit himself without Ned there to help.

[@goldndoodlz2192]

doctor strange said "ON EARTH" so if they're in space like nick fury and captain marvel and the guardians then they still might remember him

[@dianceperez8540]

When tf did he say that shit???? 😨😨😨😨

[@AbjectPermanence]

My take on it is that the physical evidence of Peter's existence is actually still there, it's just that everyone is magically unable to remember, recognize, or understand any of it. The magic used doesn't alter material reality, because that would be Scarlet Witch level magic, it only alters how people perceive and remember reality.

[@eggy8730]

So prob less like a magic that wiped the records, and more "Oh, hey, here's this Peter Parker kid. I wonder who he was, can't remember him" or smth like that I imagine then

[@vuxluongw]

@@eggy8730 exactly, it's this simple. the reason why he had to study his last year of high school again at the end of NWH because the academic events/result of that year are heavily based on him being unveiled to the world (MIT didn't accepted him and his friends due to them being associated to Spiderman).

[@montanahannah4086]

@@eggy8730 but if this was the case mj would have recognised Peter in the coffee shop and be like "hey that's the stranger I got a bunch of pictures with who's name I can't remember" 🤔

[@massterwushu9699]

@@vuxluongw it’s not simple at all !!

[@alphanerd7221]

No. It alters physical records or else Peter wouldn't need a GED.

[@tyrone4807]

I wish Strange's cape, the "Cloak of Levitation", remembers Peter

[@rushwin01]

Yea as a spiderman

[@Segen_Bell]

Does the cape even count as "someone"? I mean it's sentient, but is it even counted among "everyone" whose memories are wiped?

[@dove6069]

@@Segen_Bell Maybe the cape didn't have its memory wiped since it's not a person?

[@TheEddieguy82]

everyone that loved him and knew meaning only people I believe

[@pinoycuz125]

I thought Dr. strange made it clear he couldn’t go back in time to change the past. So while their memories may be changed to mask or remove Peter completely, I don’t think they would’ve like removed Ned relationship with Betty or removed Ned having built the Death Star.

[@MegaDudeman21]

I was thinking the same thing. I don't think it affected the past at all. Just people's memory of the past.

[@WigantX]

We were talking about a trip we took together with my family, and they were like "do you remember this?" "Do you remember that?" And everyone was like "yeah, that was so fun" "yeah, I know". But I was like "What?" "When?" "Where?" So that's pretty much what I believe happened to everyone else but Peter. Everyone else unable to remember/recognize Peter, and Peter keeping all of his memories

[@Doronin]

I think all these totems that persist in spite of their memories being wiped leaves a lot of "because comics" wiggle room for Peter to spark their lost memories pretty easily in a future installment.

[@thecouncil8278]

I imagine it how like In series 5 of doctor who Rory was forgotten but the little things were left behind eg the ring for Amy I feel the doctors speech about memory in that series applies quite well for this situation

[@jirehoracion8889]

If the spell’s rules holds true, the only people who would remember Peter are the dead avengers, even aunt May.

[@capnjackdaniels3663]

How can they remember him if they're dead?

[@alphanerd7221]

And anyone who was off world.

[@ninjagofire02]

@@alphanerd7221 nick fury, and the dead characters could return since the multiverse and again “SECRET WARS”

[@keep1t5imple5tupid]

I agree.. aunt May, the Thottest avenger, should have a loophole in the memory wipe.

[@bverrue602]

I'm still stuck on the picture that guilts Tony into doing time travel. It's without the mask, and I see it as "THE" reason Tony even helps in the first place. Tony saved Peter and Spiderman, but was only convinced by a picture of Peter Parker.

[@seclusion4452]

exactly, if he didn’t know peter then what motivated him to help in endgame?

[@bverrue602]

@TheWhiteTigerDragon it's not the worst plot hole. I find the biggest one is the fact that they change the fabric of time for college. I mean they had the college problem solved immediately.

[@massterwushu9699]

@@seclusion4452 same with HAPPY in Far From Home.

[@alphanerd7221]

@@bverrue602 Something has to have happened for it to be a plot hole. Time wasn't effected.

[@MAR-sc7np]

@@seclusion4452 he's dead so it doesn't matter

[@savedgesurvive]

What kind of broke my heart was Happy not knowing Peter, but remembering his relationship with Aunt May. Smh....messed up....and then Civil War...everyone remembers fighting the weird kid, but that's it...no one learned his name there anyways (other than Stark), but that's crazy.

[@lieutenantdiamond5601]

I kind of want a subplot in the next trilogy involving MJ and Ned slowly piecing together the weird gaps in memories they have, figuring out that they knew Peter, then figuring out who he was by the end of the third film.

[@tovopro]

No Way Home made me sad. Not because of the memory wipe, but how much I missed Tobey and Andrew Spidey. I wish they showed up first half of the movie as well, but just as fast as they appeared, they were sent back into the ether for us to wonder about their existence once again.

[@josephmcgowan6212]

I reckon Ned forgetting Peter could set up him turning into Hobgoblin. Peter was his only friend at school and without him he could get bullied and feel alone and turn dark, therefore creating Hobgoblin

[@alphanerd7221]

Michelle is his friend. Also he's going to MIT.

[@josephmcgowan6212]

@@alphanerd7221 ned was only friends with Michelle because of Peter so they will most likely lose contact of one another and also MIT is school?

[@kretgwiazdonos7397]

@@josephmcgowan6212 it was clear at the end of the movie that mj and ned were still friends, and they're about to reamin in touch in college

[@harshithn4810]

NED IS NOT GONNA BE HOBGOBLIN FFS! How tf will a weak and innocent kid transform into a powerful supervillain when he's just studying in MIT and doesn't have any connection with spiderman

[@josephmcgowan6212]

@@kretgwiazdonos7397 there is nothing in the end scene that confirms they will stay in touch

[@biga7682]

I think it’s not as complicated as people think, I think of it as when you have an old friend who you remember hanging out with but don’t quite remember his name or face

[@massterwushu9699]

Far From Home wouldn’t have happened if Happy didn’t know who Peter was. He literally saves him in that movie, because he KNEW him. This memory swap has long reaching implications that would take far too long to explain

[@DarkShadowZX]

@@massterwushu9699 The events still happened. Happy just remembers them differently now. What he did back then doesn't matter to what Happy remembers now. That's the scary thing about memory alteration. It can sometimes give the results of time travel without actual time travel. As long as everyone remembers it one way, does it really matter if it actually happened the other way? You remove any evidence that it happened the other way and it might as well have not happened at all. If everyone remembers the altered version of the Mysterio storyline, the original storyline doesn't affect anything anymore. Only Peter remembers it. And maybe he'll get some strange looks if he talks about it to anyone, but they'll just think he's remembering it incorrectly, or just talking nonsense.

[@crushrevczar]

So I’m hearing if Ned comes back, Peter could try to reconnect with Ned and make Ned’s mind break. Decent idea for Hobgoblin.

[@TreyJaySoSway]

Holy shit

[@kingcrab967]

@@TreyJaySoSway that actually would be sick

[@BecuaseTheInternet1080]

Enough of these stupid hobgoblin theories ffs 😂 we’re never gonna see Ned flying around on glider.

[@jenzsen]

@@BecuaseTheInternet1080 Not all that long ago I recall people saying the same thing about seeing all the Spidey’s together on screen. 🤔

[@hiroitazura-o3124]

@@jenzsen yup, and we all know how that turned out XD

[@vanessanecor9056]

It was well established throughout the film that Tom's Spidey was well supported by friends and family. so it was very heartwrenching to come to that point where suddenly he's all alone, and sadly still lost his aunt May to death. story telling on this was 💯. let's see how this emotional challenge will impact Peter in the MCU moving forward

[@kmc240163]

Ngl I really want a spiderman series where he like tries to get their memories back

[@Marley0911]

This is sad, I just realised during that final avengers endgame battle no one will remember Peter Parker

[@TheDcapson]

Endgame was before this, so they all remembered him

[@paloplx]

@@TheDcapson no they meant now they wont remember him in the battle

[@Marley0911]

@@paloplx yeah

[@DampCake]

Nobody made you say this

[@amateratsu2875]

don’t they remember spiderman?

[@danab9264]

I don't think the past was altered, everything happened the way it happened. It's just that everyone's memory of Peter is erased along with any evidence that he exists, simple as that.

[@logansmith2703]

Yeah this is exactly what happened. Ned dropped his death star. He just won't remember spidey being the reason for it.

[@Tensen01]

Doctor Strange specifically said he can no longer alter the past without the time stone.

[@dotdashYTP]

I strongly disagree. Removing Evidence and Altering The Past are the same thing, you can't have 1 without the other. Flash wrote that book.

[@mingfanzhang4600]

@@dotdashYTP woke

[@rikkremer2355]

@@dotdashYTP You can absolutely erase evidence in the present, without that affecting the past

[@romansharif4907]

14:33 the homecoming suit was probably destroyed in far from home, since we knew peter was keeping it in his bag, and may said that his bags got blown up at the end of the movie

[@harshithn4810]

K but what abt the integrated suit tho? Did it just disappear when he was swinging away from the statue of liberty? God I hope not

[@romansharif4907]

@@harshithn4810 I'm assuming he can't use it anymore because of how badly damaged it was after the fight, and now he doesn't have any way to repair it without stark tech

[@smoothphuzion7716]

@Snowchild yea that's valid bc the world still believes that Spiderman killed mysterio

[@allanwheeler]

Stan Lee's cameos in the other spiderman movies means he was hopping around the multiverse.

[@mrnaxxy0509]

5:46 yeap i think ned will become hob goblin maybe in the future spiderman movie

[@conorhagen1124]

I’m so excited to see where they take this character next. There are SOOO many possibilities.

[@caseyquinn9282]

I think the writers idea was “nobody remembers Peter Parker, don’t worry about what that means for the past because we don’t know and just focus on what it means for the next movie”

[@LEBESTOF03m]

Anything that is related to peter is wiped out is basically what i think happened

[@paulrasmussen8953]

@@LEBESTOF03m whichbis still.lazy because it.leaves way too mnay questions

[@HinesEdventures]

Ned still would have dropped the Death Star…he just doesn’t remember why

[@ShrapnnL]

Peter was still there throughout everything, he just isn’t remembered…. There was no change in the timeline. The way you speak about things, is that the past changed, but Strange clearly stated he can’t change the past.

[@isaiahfreeman]

There are some characters with some level of magic immunity they could possibly play with. I presume dr strange and Wanda could have protected themselves but probably didn’t. The Hulk has a level of magic immunity but he would probably need to be in hulk form. Asgardians seem to have a level of immunity to earth magic. They don’t need to explore that but it’s a possibility if they wanted to.

[@slendermanproxies666]

Hulk actually remembered Peter existed when this happened in the comics

[@Oupsy]

Hulk is now like, in permanent hulk form tho?

[@jerrywill707]

I think Wong will remember him since he told strange to leave him out. And maybe Strange flying cape will remember him also

[@FunkNatives]

The biggest twist I was lightweight expecting to happen was Ned & MJ being a couple at the end. That would’ve sent theaters in a big ass frenzy 😂

[@popinjayishuman]

I also was half expecting this to happen when he walked into the coffee shop, I don’t why, I guess we have just been trained by media to expect love triangle plot hooks lol.

[@FunkNatives]

@@popinjayishuman lol that would’ve really been a crazy plot twist for sure.

[@rushwin01]

Yea maybe that could be plot for ned becoming next villain since mj remembers swinging with spiderman and that triggers his mind to go against him

[@harshithn4810]

@@rushwin01 Ayo wtf No lmaooo I can't take Ned seriously as a villain

[@carolcline2830]

Tobey's MJ dated his best friend Harry. I too was expecting to see them as a couple at the coffee shop.

[@ChrisJones-xs6hg]

quick contradiction, I think that Ned and MJ still first got rejected by MIT but the good word that Peter earned for them still held and just erased Peter from that recommendation

[@jackdavinci]

They only got rejected because of Peter's reputation

[@ChrisJones-xs6hg]

@@jackdavinci Spider-man’s reputation

[@LEBESTOF03m]

@@ChrisJones-xs6hg peter was known as spiderman before strange did what he did

[@catalinafajardo3930]

They got rejected from MIT because of the controversy but since they’re not longer associated with Peter Parker, they got in.

[@soleinquadrata]

Thanks for referencing Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (a.k.a. my favorite movie). I love the argument that while you can erase a person’s memories of a specific individual, the emotional imprint remains 🥰

[@MLBReviews]

Love your videos and analysis!

[@Jimmy074x4]

I was scared it affected all realities and the end credits would have Toby and Andrew going back to their realities w their families / friends not know ing who they were .

[@itszian7241]

Same, I was thinking about it too...

[@foundingseven7759]

That's my question, because in the video it wont affect other universes but if thats the case then why did other characters that is breaking the dimension at rhe last part took effect and didnt come to their universe

[@Xay_drew]

I see the next movie focusing on Peter checking up on his friends, his life alone , the responsibility he holds , him trying to get into mit and a villain that will make him recognize why being in the suit feels better than being Peter Parker because he no longer exist to anyone

[@DJILLVYBZ]

Damn this a good prediction

[@dragonsword8129]

I would rather it focus on Peter getting into Empire State (since that's where he goes in the comics)

[@Xay_drew]

@@dragonsword8129 factsss

[@Xay_drew]

@@DJILLVYBZ thxs

[@josephvernon21]

venom

[@lieutenantwolf5437]

We can all agree no way home was the best marvel film of last year Thank you all for the likes and awesome opinions in the reply’s hope ur all having a good day 😃

[@akaashgill8369]

Of course

[@x2insane738]

Yes the best movie

[@rjtheprince1944]

So true

[@kieranmorton1139]

Best marvel movie

[@King_Blacklight]

💯

[@jardex2275]

Considering most of Stark's tech was confiscated by the DODC, I'm guessing that Peter no longer has access to the tools required to maintain the high tech suits.

[@dannytiger6619]

If MJ and NED remember spiderman then Isn’t it gonna be weird for them that they no longer interact with him. Like I’m sure they have tons of memories with spiderman when he was in his suit so all of a sudden they don’t see him anymore

[@cornermercury7756]

14:33 That's mostly because of the fact that every one of those suits were stark tech. And since he's been erased from history, even if he had those stark suits, who would he rely on to repair them?

[@silversaiyan3783]

They definitely needed repaired at the end of the movie, too.

[@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070]

ned helps him hack the suit again

[@michaellabonte6390]

Hell the suit authorized Peter Parker so he prob couldn't even wear it

[@Goldrex434]

i believe that ned could remember peter more (or convince them) than mj because ned seemed like he would believe in anything cool, awesome and or mysterious. but with mj may be harder to convince.

[@HankValencia]

One thing that I'm curious tho is when Peter-2 (Tobey) and Peter-3 (Andrew) return to their respective universes, do they still have memory on Peter-1 and their experiences together on Peter-1's universe?? Because for me, I think they still would. Besides, they're the same Peter Parker but from different universes.

[@ljacs3009]

I think they wouldn't, because forgetting him is what allowed them to go back to their own universes

[@ssjgotenks2009]

@@ljacs3009 no they wqill remebr them no rmeeber wood kill the hole moive

[@yousufahmed1249]

no they will remember cause they are peter parker

[@Khn_2102]

@@ssjgotenks2009 understandable have a nice day

[@quarantinegamer8269]

@@ssjgotenks2009 makes sense

[@chriscaseyg9362]

I kinda feel the high school stuff was all replaced because save for the most oblivious of individuals, knowing Peter to any degree of closeness would statistically ensure learning his identity. Removing his Highschool record and the memories of his classmates was the spells way to seal itself into a closed loop. It is the part that ensures the rest.

[@maggotsxcl7403]

There is no way the past was altered, it’s just a blur to people when it comes to peters identity, everything that happened in the mcu still happened

[@themoosehoof]

3:50, that’s definitely inaccurate, he seems to have been on Christmas break, he didn’t complete his senior year and is taking the GED instead likely so he doesn’t have to mess with teachers not remembering him, interacting as much with friends, balancing school and a full time job (to pay for his apartment) etc. if his records were erased I don’t think he’d even be able to take the GED

[@tulip5210]

Ohhhhhhhh

[@Tokeshiro]

id like to think that from Happy's Pov he believes Tony stark knew spidermans secret identity but since his dead that info is lost.

[@redpanda9367]

I love that line from Strange to Ned about his tingly fingers…It means you should see your physician.” …Strange, you sneaky, magical physician, you.

[@alphanerd7221]

Probably diagnosed him with diabetes.

[@redpanda9367]

@@alphanerd7221 Like he would let Ned screw up his perfect record? I think not. Lol

[@alphanerd7221]

@@redpanda9367 What?

[@redpanda9367]

@@alphanerd7221 that was a line from the first Dr. Strange movie before his car crash when he’s turning down patients who he didnt think were worth his time.

[@alphanerd7221]

@@redpanda9367 That's in reference to surgery. A diagnosis has nothing to do with that.

[@RayMak]

This movie made me cry

[@alexmendoza3265]

Now that Ned doesn't know Peter great set up for a hobgoblins Intro

[@HongFeiBai]

Erik Voss is worthy of being a real life Dr. Strange, with his understanding of time and reality magic.

[@StanleyYin3]

Wouldn't Peter still be able to become friends with Ned and MJ again since they all still have the same personalities

[@BryanFritchie]

He could, but then he goes down the path of putting them in potential danger again.

[@ericstorm6582]

Obviously but he's not going to,

[@AugustOfTheWinter]

He doesn't want to because of the guilt that they always get hurt with him

[@vuxluongw]

it was implied in the coffee shop scene at the end of the film that he could, but he wouldn't, since that will only drag them back to the same dangerous path of a hero.

[@FetusKing]

Wong will remember Peter. He told Strange "Leave me out if it."

[@Blindluck92]

Literally the first words out of my mouth after seeing this movie were to ask one of my friends, "So did all of technology, including the internet and any digital records, also vanish?" I got an immediate "no" which just left me with more questions than it answered, and have left this one alone ever since, if only for the sake of my sanity.

[@jollibaee-q2v]

spiderman's life now is like prestiging in cod and having to restart

[@benwren2917]

My head cannon is that the void has a bunch of pictures of Peter Parker and stuff like that

[@ericstorm6582]

Not pictures but MJ has sketches of him

[@tyrantbossmedia2230]

The suits no longer work for two reasons: 1) Law enforcement shut down the Stark tech when they tried to apprehend Parker and his cohorts. 2) The nanotech suit was broken by Doc Ock. So both suits no longer work and Parker has to start over.

[@rushwin01]

And other is it needs a password as a person and only peter parker is able to unlock it but since his identity is vanised he won’t have its access and suit will be offline

[@kaizoc5314]

@@rushwin01 It's been shown he's smart enough to override stuff like that in his suit, he'd be able go get access back to it if he tried.

[@Oupsy]

The suits thing for me could be as easy as ALL THE SUITS GET ABSOLUTELY FUCKED IN EVERY MOVIE! And now he don't have access to stark's tech to fix it

[@starlord7027]

Nationwide lockdown has prevented me from seeing this movie a second time. I was lucky enough to see it the day before cinemas closed. But i can not wait to see it again soon!

[@JLC698]

Why not just remove or wipe out their memories of peter as spiderman and still remember him as peter parker. Like the time how they knew peter as spidey has never happened.

[@shinjibing8364]

It pained me when Peter decided not to say anything to MJ 😢 But the way they ended the movie by putting the Peter in the position he is in the comics being alone and poor without any friends or help was just perfect

[@NinoBaggins]

Ned’s gonna remember the handshake before he remembers Peter

[@wackrat6681]

No way home may have been the best marvel movie yet

[@x2insane738]

I loved it

[@katrill]

stretch

[@Talve]

No

[@qwerty_314]

I really wish I felt this way. I really was looking forward to it, but just too much happened, and so very many aspects of it were under-served. Andrew Garfield and Green Goblin were absolutely goated though.

[@wackrat6681]

@@qwerty_314 What parts did you feel were under served? Personally i wasnt going in the the highest expectations so it was really good for me.

[@docdaytona108]

After watching this video and revisiting “Far From Home” in this context, I don’t know how the events of that movie could’ve been replaced with anything remotely close. Everything was predicated on a CLASS trip. And how (or why) does Fury track Peter down in Europe, even if he went there separately? I’m gonna just imagine Bruce Willis from “Looper” sat me down and told me not to think about it too much.

[@BryanFritchie]

Yup. There's absolutely no logical explanation for how the movie ended. So just going to have to accept it the way they forced it.

[@enadegheeghaghe6369]

@@BryanFritchie is magic logical? Even the infinity stones that the MCU was built on are not logical. Just watch and enjoy

[@sauceboss9797]

They didn't get replaced they just have no memory of Peter so most of the time they would just be doing things by themselves

[@LEBESTOF03m]

Let's say reality was altered and events went very differently without peter parker being a thing and just ''spiderman'' being remembered

[@massterwushu9699]

@@enadegheeghaghe6369 the premise needs to be make logical sense within the parameters set by the writers. That’s cop out

[@ghoul-corpse]

I want a video with the explanation why did peter parker not actually tell nor to Ned or MJ that he was their best friend and MJ's boyfriend, cuz that part interested me the most, as to never get them again to get hurt if he keeps being spiderman? Is that his fear as to why he didnt reveal anything to them in the end of the movie of no way home?

[@thelastdon1]

You brought up so many questions I never knew I had. Then you immediately answered them :-) Cheers to you!!!!

[@x2insane738]

In no way home electro said there has to be a black Spiderman somewhere talking about miles Morales

[@MrRobertGillan]

Yes, we got the reference

[@Arniox]

I just watched it in the theaters yesterday and was quite sad by the ending. I do hope he gets everyone to remember. He's such a pivotal character both as a hero and as Peter Parker within the mcu and many different huge fights. But I think what they've done here is Sony has found a way to officially cut the ties between the mcu and spiderman so that they can reuse him in their own spider-verse.

[@Adgeatic]

Back in November 2021, Feige and company said that Sony and Marvel are in the process of making a 4th movie with Holland reprising his role, as they plan on making three more films. I think that this movie was just ending this particular trilogy, as they begin another one. It felt like a final movie though it could have felt that way because of the lonely feeling that they created for Peter Parker being alone.

[@lindablue7494]

Wow that is totally crazy how 1 thing can rewrite so many others. Lots of work for the continuity writers and other people involved with these movies into the next movies.

[@UnusualPete]

I wonder if the TVA still knows who Spiderman Is. Even if Loki never met Peter, he could appear in a future movie talking directly to Peter and recognizing him as Spiderman.

[@sonic3_24]

why the Hulk would remember Spiderman, when he had never even met him directly.

[@frostlegend954]

You claimed at the start that they just don’t remember the moments with Peter, but then went on as if those moments were erased from reality.

[@LouietheG]

2:31 Electro be like "With great power... ...comes great electric bill"

[@hibco3000]

🤣🤣🤣

[@TJettman]

Now without Peter's guidance through childhood and high school, will all that lonliness make Ned turn evil and become Hobgoblin?

[@QueenJenniferTheGreat]

poor peter, i feel so bad for him. i hope that in the next movie about Ned turns evil and is defented thatthey get their memories back.

[@Liam_Jarvis]

Neds probably confused where his Lego palpatine is 😂