Next Gen, Modern, or Classic...Which Forehand Is Best For YOU? - Tennis Lesson

[@UDEMF]

Dear guys, Ive switched to the next gen for a month now. Thanks to your instructions. It feels like 30% added to the speed and spin on the ball and it works easier on high balls too. Even though the consistency was less and the prep must be earlier (perhaps I need more time), I love this new forehand, never pay attention to how those Next Gen guys swing. This video is detailed, well constructed - the best!

[@Playyourcourt]

Thanks for the feedback, always good to hear how peoples training is going especially when adopting principles from the instruction. Glad to hear the next-gen forehand is working out for you!

[@aidenoconnor6288]

I know Im a bit late to this video lol, but im about to start div 2 college tennis, Ive been playing with the next gen forehand for about 2 years and even some high level highschool kids/coaches are shocked by how big my forehand is. I do, however have some warnings to anyone wanting to learn this. You NEED to be quick to the ball as much as possible, especially if you use a western grip like me. Low balls can be tough and you really need to get under them to get a good ball back. You should hit as much as possible on a wall before dealing with actual opponents. Get a feel for the stroke and get into a good rhythm for a few days first. It took a year before I could hit 100 mid to fast rally balls with a partner consecutively. Like they said in the video, IT TAKES TIME. It took a grown d1 college kid 4 months, be patient.

[@Playyourcourt]

Great stuff Aiden, very well said. Thanks for the support and feedback! 💪

[@thestuff8023]

I love the Sqmpras forehand, It works for me.

[@Playyourcourt]

The Stuff big fan of the Sampras forehand! Ironically he and Lendl where pioneers when it came to loading with the elbow up & back. ie: Next Gen.

[@exar8355]

Agreed it is a top three all time forehand (no 1 imo). If you watch clips he would change the point in an instant when the ball came to his forehand. Only Nadal and Federer have done that since but Pete somehow seemed to hit in harder and flatter with that unique technique and the hammer of a racket he used.

[@Playyourcourt]

Feed me a hammer and I will crap out nails. Loved the Agassi forehand! Andre definitely rocked the modern forehand.

[@tchamot1855]

I am a 50y club player : always been struggled by teacher requesting to have a preparation by racquet head up. I switch to next Gen. What a difference, high consistency, powerful stroke, I have finally found my forehand !!!

[@Playyourcourt]

Love it! 💪

[@johnward8064]

Very good breakdown. I have been curious about this.

[@Playyourcourt]

john ward thanks John, glad you enjoyed it!

[@Popieldavid2]

Excellent overview. One thing you might have added: the lag and snap that is seen in the modern and next gen forehands.

[@Playyourcourt]

Popieldavid2 great addition to the instruction. ✅ Thanks for the feedback 🙏🏻

[@kcazzzzz]

definitely the modern forehand as the default stroke, and next gen every once in a while to throw of opponents. even though the next gen forehand produces more power and spin, it is much less consistent compared to the modern forehand because you need to swing it faster or the ball will just land short or goes into the net. also it has a bigger loop, which means it will be difficult to hit properly if you are receiving a fast ball, while fore the modern forehand, you can just easily shorten your take back like when receiving fast serves. classic stroke only use it as a last resort to defend against really fast balls, by just lobbing the ball deep into the center of the court near the baseline

[@CoachJoeyJones]

Just from my teachings of high level players, I started them out with the modern and students who pick up the game faster transition to the next gen. These are the students where the game flows to them and have hella fast racket speed and most are great athletes. Ryan is the epitome of this! He knocks the heck out the ball!

[@Playyourcourt]

Coach Joey Jones that he does! We typically see the same development as you mentioned in our players. Thanks for watching and the insights coach!

[@CoachJoeyJones]

PlayYourCourt.com I really enjoy your channel - thanks so much !

[@ericblachere8283]

When I see that Djokovic, Nadal & Federer keep beating those Next Gen forehands I can't help but wonder if it's really that efficient. It may be delivering more spin & speed but I think it also breaks down more easily (Khachanov, Sock, Kyrgios struggle with consistency) & as you mentioned it's hard on the arm. Plus not all up & coming players use it (Tsitsipas, De Minaur come to mind)

[@Playyourcourt]

Solid insights sir and only time will tell in regards to the technique of the forehand. The supreme talent and athleticism of the big 3 sets them far and away from the rest of the field. Something tells me regardless of their preferred mechanics they would still be at the top. There were plenty of coaches that thought Nadal should change his forehand due to it being unorthodox. (thankfully he didn't) Now it seems to be the catalyst for what we see from the new crop on tour.

[@Gryffon3]

@@Playyourcourt At the end of the day there isn't even one great Next gen forehand. Sock and Kyrgios have good forehands, but they are never used in the same breath as Federer Del Potro (eastern modern) or Nadal, or even Berdych (semi western modern). The next gen forehand of your student is alright, but nothing to write home about (no offense) . I think there is an obsession with spin in the US and I'm not sure why. Spin is good, too much spin and you give your opponent more time.

[@legoatjames5723]

@@Gryffon3 I think the only advantages of spin are safety, and high bounce. Tried to teach it to my "student" because he was getting beat by a better but shorter player, and yes the opponent did have more time but the kid couldn't reach it sometimes because of the high bounce. Overall I prefer the modern

[@The77dwarf]

Thank you guys for the video and the explanations. Since I saw that on your site and others I have tried to practice the concept of the "next Gen" Forehand and to do similar change in Backhand. If I get it right the main outcome of the style change is a Whip motion that give you much more spin and power - resulting in more aggressive Tennis. After some practice it pays and I love to see the changes ! :-). Some questions on the down sides of the technique are: 1st - reduced stability - I would like some tips on how to improve control on this style (beside practice); 2nd - how to handle hard balls where quicker and shorter preparation is beneficial (like serve returns etc.); 3rd - how to improve versatility and disguise - with flat, slice and drop shots with this style; 4th - last but not least - the physical pressure on the hand joint is increased no doubts on including shoulder, elbow and wrist - while it is understood that the responsibility choosing this style more and not risking yourself is on the player - or at least on the direct coach - you may want to provide some fitness drills to support that by strengthening the muscles and how to help people keep the motion within the reasonable limits and avoid "over hitting" that may increase the risk; Thank you again for the great video and in advance for your response Omri

[@SunsPhan75]

Soooo...i was hitting like this about 15 years ago after an hiatus from college tennis for about 9 years. I tinkered and stopped after a summer (mine was Roddick esque and slightly different). I obviously didn't perfect it like Kyrios etc but glad its found the pro level.

[@Playyourcourt]

History has a way of repeating itself doesn’t it. The elbow back forehand was also used by the likes of Sampras and Lendl amongst others. Question in regards to the next gen is, was it taught or simply the players natural preference? Love the feedback, thanks for watching!

[@MrGuitar50]

Mmmm, I would argue that many more players in the classic era were using an Eastern grip vs continental. Stan Smith, Newc, Ashe, Rosewall and others all eastern. True, McEnroe, Laver, Nasty were continental. And then there was Borg and Conners who were more Western. But you’re points are well taken. I’m trying to learn a modern forehand now. This is very helpful.

[@Playyourcourt]

Thanks for the feedback Richard, indeed there where plenty of players incorporating the Eastern grip in the classic era, we made a bit opg a generalization for the players we referenced. Thrilled to hear the instruction helped with the development of your modern forehand! Keep battling out there!

[@robleshouse]

Not trying to criticize the video or anything just wanted to maybe help you guys out here. It’s not a matter of which forehand is “better for you”. Striking is striking. The goal is to be able to strike the tennis ball in the most efficient manner that eliminates any unnecessary motions which will in turn make the striking more effective and repeatable. Its like asking someone to pick up a glass of water off the table and they can either simply pick it up or they can run outside run three miles come back to 7 jumping jacks then pick it up blindfolded. Obviously the first is much simpler requires much less energy. The only case you can possibly ask someone to chose which one is better for you is if someone might have a medical condition where they are not able to use their legs or anything else which would hinder their ability to strike the ball as it is intended to be. Going back to the silly cup example….If you had to ask someone to pick a cup off the table and that person had no arm or was blind, they would then have to find another way to pick the glass up. The goal is rotation. Using the legs to push down into the ground with the intent of rotating the pelvis and rotating the trunk and propelling the arm into motion. If anything, the “next gen” forehand would be the absolute easiest on the arm. There is no wrist involved. Depending on the grip you use the wrist position will somewhat have to be manipulated in different manners, but if you use more of a modern grip, you could literally use a completely neutral wrist. As Vladimir once told me “But anyway, the wrist should not be completely relaxed it has to be flexible but yet to have some stiffness. I It should work somewhat like a riding crop.” The shoulder is what does most of the work internally rotating for the choice of using more or less topspin. That being said, you do need a stable shoulder. A shoulder thats strong and somewhat stuck in a certain rigid position is not a stable shoulder. A shoulder that can be anywhere in the world because it chooses to be there because you want it to be and passes a stability test, is stable. Your legs are capable of generating an enormous amount of power catapulting your arm and if your arm cant take the impact after striking so many balls, then I can see where you would say its hard on the arm, but if done correctly, it is absolutely the safest way and least harmful to the arm. It does however require awesome footwork, anticipation and the ability to improvise and strike the ball and rotate according to how its coming at you. CLosest to perfection has been stated to be roger. Very minimilastic approach and is a one joint rotation stroke only requiring a turn of the body and straightening of the arm. Very reliable and repeatable. In order to really understand this, you really do have to have somehwat of an understanding in biomechanics. Brian gordon did a lot of research on this stuff and I recomend checking him out. Also suggest you take a look the usrname Powerflail. A ton of awesome videos. Tells it just as it is and leaves out all the stupidity. I hope this helps you guys! @PowerFlail

[@Playyourcourt]

robleshouse my man if you wanted to simply promote your company it’s all good, just get to it lol. Appreciate the feedback. Best of luck with the endeavor!

[@robleshouse]

@@Playyourcourt I have no affilitation with either! Just happen to have a passion for biomechanics! :D

[@Gryffon3]

Such a condescending and silly comment. I guess federer djoko and Nadal don't know how to pick up a glass of water 🙄PS : Roger does not have a "next gen" forehand.

[@brasileirosim5961]

Hi guys, thanks for the instructive video! It sounds crazy, but I “invented” a kind of next gen forehand once I was practicing at the wall. I was not aware of the Nextgen. I was trying different movements, trying something like Rublev’s forehand after I saw him live in Geneva against Cilic - it was by far the fastest forehand I ever saw in my life, really impressive ! But them I began to point the tip of the racket to the wall, and suddenly I began to hit very fast and controlled forehands. It was crazy! I didn’t do the high take back because I didn’t have the time when playing at the wall; the whole thing was to delay dropping the racket and not dropping so much as usual. Okay, I am 59 years old and a weak player, but I like to work on my technique to have a chance against young opponents in my club. And as tennis teacher I like to learn what I will teach.

[@gavinpadilla5255]

Very right guys. Grew up having a Aaron krickstein type forehand. Haven’t played since the 90s, now trying to emulate the next gen forehand and it’s just not working.

[@manavhariraj1824]

Hey I’m actually a 14 year old, playing a lot of high national and ITF tournaments. My backswing is definitely next-gen, probably more towards an extreme side. It’s something I’ve developed naturally trying to gain a lot more acceleration, the speed and spin I’m getting is a hell of a lot with this, a fully slingshot motion. Many of my coaches have ruled against this, told me to change to a modern style, but the next-gen feels too natural to me, and it’s going great so far, no arm pain whatsoever either.

[@Playyourcourt]

Manav Hariraj it’s really tough to answer without seeing what the particular stroke looks like. If you want to send us footage we’re happy to analyze it. You’re obviously playing at a very high level so it sounds like your coaches have lead you on the right path thus far so you should probably trust them. Thanks for watching!

[@manavhariraj1824]

Yeah for sure. I mean I didn’t expect you guys to respond, thank you. Yeah the coaches are great, it’s just that my head coach follows a very Latin American style so he’s very fixed on a modern style technique, where as one of my other coaches is American and he’s trying to keep it natural for me. He’s keeping me with my next-gen swing. It would be great to send you a video, I’ll find your contact email address and maybe by tomorrow take a video of my swing and send it over. Whether you watch the video or not, thanks so much 😁.

[@Playyourcourt]

Manav Hariraj if you take the time to send us footage I’ll definitely check it out and help where I can. -Nate

[@manavhariraj1824]

PlayYourCourt.com Okay thank you so much Mr.Nate, I will definitely film my forehands and send it over. I’m in India and it’s nighttime at the moment here, tomorrow morning US time I will send you videos that I will take of my forehand. Where will I find an email address to send it to?

[@OscarEggen]

In my opinion the mean reason of the natural further WTA-take back is the valgus -of X stand of the women elbow.

[@tnuyx9405]

Wawrinka forehand is the one that resonates with me the most

[@nicM859]

Thanks from France for this instructive video. I was intrigued by Musetti's forehand, and I searched informations about new forehand techniques among To a lesser extent, I was curious about Sinner's forehand. Your video was very useful to me for a better understandig of these both players, and players like Kyrgios or Sock. Thanks !

[@Playyourcourt]

Happy to help Nicolas, thanks for watching!

[@kcazzzzz]

classic forehand may not be good, but thats because it was developed based on the racket players are using at that time. players used to use stiffer wooden rackets with really small headsize of about 65 sq inches, and weights over 400g. which means if you were to hit using the modern or next gen forehand, it will be super inconsistent and you may injure your wrist or shoulders due to the much higher weight, and you still won't be able to produce that much topspin because of the small headsize and less developed strings. due to racket and string technology, rackets can have bigger headsize because they were made much lighter and string were also more developed, which enables better much topspin and the development of the modern and classic strokes

[@Playyourcourt]

kcazzzzz really solid insights my man. Thanks for taking the time to share them. We appreciate ya!

[@chrisf247]

It's really interesting how common the next gen is becoming. It seems like more players can generate power with it, when in the past it was hard to say exactly why some guys just had killer forehands while others had more modest power. I wonder about the injury issue and whether it's as good for consistency and accuracy though. If you hit the ball harder but it lands shorter, it seems like you haven't actually accomplished that much.

[@Playyourcourt]

Depth is still king my man! Great insight there. Thanks for watching and the feedback!

[@tophersuwita]

My wrist gets painful using next gen forehand, even I learned such form when I started tennis>15 years ago. I am often prone to error due to change of pace too (e.g suddenly slow slice after topspin exchange or vice versa) so I learned modern forehand for easier timing

[@amaroudis]

I don't like these labels. I guess I have been hitting the next gen forehand for decades. I am actually trying to make my take back more compact.

[@lalameinc]

This video is loaded with great content, you guys are doing a fantastic job for the tennis community. Thanks so much! I agree that Next Gen forehand looks like it puts extra stress on elbow, wrist, etc. in order to get more whip on the racquet to generate heavy spin. Jack Sock suffered a severe thumb/hand injury and it is taking him a long time to get back to the singles player (in top 10) he was before the injury. The Next Gen forehand not for the recreational club player. I would definitely advise the rec player to work on the Modern forehand as that will be pretty effective. PS How would you categorize Rafa's forehand? I don't think it is Next Gen and yet it generates such heavy top spin.

[@Playyourcourt]

Glen Schneer thanks Glen, we really appreciate the kind words. Really great insight regarding Sock and the nature of his injury. Wasn’t aware it was his hand / thumb that was injured. Nadals forehand is all his own. It’s really a combination of the two but if I had to categorize it I’d say it’s closer to the modern forehand than the next gen. Thanks for the feedback Glen.

[@lalameinc]

You're welcome!

[@jhyulikeapro6365]

Nextgen forehand .. number one Kyle Edmund's forehand .. nextgen forehand ?

[@Playyourcourt]

J H YU like a pro yes sir, Edmond definitely has the next gen forehand! Thanks for the question and for watching!

[@OscarEggen]

@@Playyourcourt Also Sinner, Sonego, Musetti, Tiafoe, Kachanov, Shapovavlov, kyrgios, Jennifer Brady (I like her forehand the most) and some other players. In spite the next gen forehand seems to give a slight advantage in angeler speed, there are more skills needed to beat the older generation with the modern forehand.

[@petrtamler4484]

Thank you for marvellous lessons. I'd like to ask regarding classical forehand and Bill Tilden who used to play high loop backstrokes on both sides. My first coach used to teach me this, however, I snubbed ať him as he was old ať that time/ roughly as I am now and feeling young/ but retrospectively he was my best coach /not considering you youtubers who are giving me another please of my tennis game.

[@Playyourcourt]

Petr Tamler gotta admit I went on a deep dive locating footage of Big Bill’s forehand and thoroughly enjoyed the silent instruction and footage of Tilden competing. Sounds like your old coach was a smart man. I always thought I knew what was best as a young man as well. If only we were better listeners ;) Thanks for the feedback and for watching. Much appreciated!

[@petrtamler4484]

@@Playyourcourt I thank you for your marvellous coaching

[@thearnab]

Hey guys. Loved the video. Could you do another video about the great baseline players in the 90's/early 2000's who all seemed to have much cleaner and simpler take-back motions on their forehands - ie Agassi, Hewitt, JC Ferrero, Rios - and whether that would still work in today's game? Why is it necessary to point the racquet up (modern) on the take-back, or have it pointed forward (next gen)? These motions seem to add a lot of extra clunk. Can you still have the topspin wrist movement with those 90's forehands? Also... could you do a video on the great forehands of smaller more technical players on the WTA, like Justine Henin and Li Na? Their forehands looked so simple and compact. Thanks!

[@Playyourcourt]

Absolutely! Their were plenty of amazing forehands throughout the 90's. The style of forehand really comes down to personal preference. Love the idea for content. Thanks for the recommendation!

[@sinaisinai43]

As racquet weights and swingweights have gone down, the form has gotten more wristy and incorporates more lag. No surprise there.

[@uhaltuamarsahala2436]

Thank you for the breakdowns by the way 🙏. Awesome one 👍

[@Playyourcourt]

Our pleasure, glad you enjoyed it!

[@twinwankel]

The RCs next gen forehand looks like a combination of the WTA and modern forehand. The problem with it is that it takes longer to swing and so you can be late on hard shots and commit errors. If any of the next gen forehand players can win any majors, then you should consider it.

[@Playyourcourt]

Wally Friend hmm, not sure we agree with this one Wally.

[@uhaltuamarsahala2436]

Long live the modern technique! 🙏😊

[@jlook6070]

Are you a fan of the spaghetti western grip by any chance? Those racquet slinging skills are killer. I like continental grip myself.

[@Playyourcourt]

J Look semi-western is our preferred grip when developing a forehand. Each grip has its place and is its ultimately up to the individual to what they prefer. Keep slinging those forehands J!

[@jlook6070]

@@Playyourcourt I would be using it for doubles with transition movement to the net yes. Actually to be more accurate it's slightly past continental with a next gen mixed with WTA swing traits. Low balls are what I love.

[@room1recording]

Whichever one goes in more? 🤷‍♂️

[@Playyourcourt]

Barry Lee lol seems fair.

[@OscarEggen]

Ryan demonstrates at 7.31- 8.05min the next gen forehand. Nice, but at the end of his take back IT SEEMS he has a stop in his motion. Was the rally to slow for him?

[@KittiChan1]

I tried to apply more top spin on my forehand using the the next gen forehand but now I have trouble with the plough trough. Sometimes I will completely miss the sweet spot and I also seems to make way more unforced with the next gen forehand in long matches. Thinking of going back to modern forehand now.

[@Playyourcourt]

All-u-can Kitti Chan changing technique is a difficult task and it takes a lot of time to implement new mechanics. Stay patient and keep working through it. If after several months you go back to the modern forehand that’s totally fine. Both are great selections. Thanks for watching!

[@tophersuwita]

I have sore wrist and lower plow through with next gen too

[@ChaunceyDos]

Tsitsi's forehand is not that extreme. Definitely wouldn't put it in same category as Sock or Kyrgios's.

[@Playyourcourt]

ChaunceyDos Tsitsipas’s forehand is unorthodox but we agree nowhere near as extreme as Sock or Kyrigos. He does lead with the elbow however keeping him in the same category of biomechanics. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!

[@pjesf]

I'm assuming that the extreme grip is why the modern players don't have a slice forehand in their arsenals? With the pros I see so many FH approaches that scream "PASS ME" unless they're perfect. On the BH side, the sliced approach can still be effective even if it's not perfect.

[@kcazzzzz]

modern players don't use the slice forehand much because it is slower and allow opponents to just run up to the ball, set up and blast the ball back. it may produce a lower shot, but that is only a problem for lower level players.with the topspin approach, you can hit the ball much harder and faster. the pros are not necessarily looking for a winner on that, but rather to set up the overhead or volley by stretching the opponent out, which the can do because of the speed of the ball, and less likely to do so if the ball is slower like from the slice forehand

[@pjesf]

kcazzzzz - Thanks for the response but even today they use a sliced BH approach (albeit not as often). I know this is going back a bit but Björn Borg developed a 2HBH slice that was effective at Wimbledon. Puristically if you're going to play a sliced approach then what's the diff if it originated from BH or FH?

[@kcazzzzz]

@@pjesf it has much difference. for the slice FH approach, the shot is quite obvious because of the more open racket face when setting up. a higher level player will pick up on that and read it as either a slice or a lob, and then just step into the court to wait for the shot and follow up with a volley, a drop shot or an approach shot towards the opposite side of the court. and because the slice is slow, they will have all the time to just move in, set up the slice BH approach and ground strokes on the other hand are used much more often than the slice forehand because it is much easier to change the direction of the ball with the BH slice compared to the FH slice due to body mechanics allowing more spin on the slice BH compared to the slice FH, effectively kicking the ball out of the court and giving the opponent more distance to cover. it is also a less obvious shot because the take back looks the same as a normal BH. but the issue with the slice is always the consistency, on top of not being able to hit fast shots, it also has lower net clearance and the ball covers more court because it does not dip down like the topspin but rather the spin pushes the ball upwards. a slightly off angle shot will result in the ball going into the net, sailing out, or just launching upwards, which will be a chance ball for the opponent. so out of 20 BH shots, probably only 1 or 2 are slices to catch opponents off guard

[@pjesf]

kcazzzzz - Thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough response; much appreciated

[@johngodfreymalig2328]

I was just *suffocating* seeing how stiff the classic forehand is

[@elwoodpalmer7622]

on the amateur level the guys with the new gen forehand are struggling with low balls coming from slice , they do miss a lot this way , receiving balls with low bounces , not much pace,etc...

[@sebastiansantos5561]

Is Alcaraz hybrid forehand for a player from 5.0 and up because is a more advanced technique and a modern forehand like Nadal for a player of until 4.5 because is a more older and basic technique¿?

[@andrelamarque1009]

Hey guys, I have a question that I haven’t seen any KZbin video answer. What if you take the racket back like rublev or tsitsipas. Their racket head points foreward but the strings are facing forward as well instead of to the side of the fence. Is this better or worse than pointing the strings to the side fence? What are the pros and cons? It always confuses me.

[@CoachJoeyJones]

Great video guys !

[@Csizzle800]

This video is so cool!

[@Playyourcourt]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!

[@DiscoveryDiversTokyo]

Scott (?) looks like a Myth Buster w/o glasses ;)

[@OscarEggen]

I wonder if the next gen forehand generates so much more speed than the modern forehand. It is all about the lag. Maybe you can measure the speed when Ryan hits the ball with the next gen,- and modern forehand. He can play them both!

[@Playyourcourt]

He actually used a modern forehand through juniors but once he started playing collegiate tennis his forehand was changed to the next-gen. The power and spin improved but he already hit quite a big ball with the modern FH. The path of the ball however changed significantly, with his shots penetrating the court with improved depth from a more linear path.

[@kelleyfamily2636]

I really don't see a fundamental difference between what you guys are calling the "next gen" forehand and the "modern" forehand. The "next gen" forehand in the video just looks like a better example of a modern forehand. Relative to the "modern" stroke, the player in the next gen demo is relaxing the arm more in the initial part of the forward swing, thereby getting a very nice lay back on the racquet and elbow away from the body more, so then as he pulls up and across and allows the lay back to release he gets more racquet head speed. Also, if done correctly, this motion shouldn't be hard on the arm or shoulder. The arm should be pretty relaxed through most of the stroke, with the pulling up and across the big contribution from the arm right before contact, but that motion should be relatively easy on the arm. I do agree that it takes some dedication to make any modern-ish forehand work on the court because fundamentally they require the racquet head to have significant motion across the line of the incoming ball to generate all of that top spin. There is a contact point where the racquet and ball meet, and shanking is just a fact of life some times. The traditional stroke swings the racquet pretty much straight into the ball's path, so there can be more of a contact zone (i.e. hit through four balls) and you'll still get a decent hit, but you'll never get the high spin that the modern strokes can produce.

[@MikeSmith-wg6nn]

I love your videos and I signed up but I haven’t able to find anybody to play with

[@Playyourcourt]

Hey Mike, sorry to hear that. Where are you located?

[@craigmont924]

Did Nathan switch from PureStrike to a Radical?

[@Playyourcourt]

Craig Montgomery I’ve been playing with swing weights lately so the racquet if choice varies quite a bit. Definitely feeling the Radical Mp though.

[@craigmont924]

@@Playyourcourt Cool! I vacillate between my Extreme MP and Speed MP.

[@ukaszczubek4694]

"Banana forehand" e.g. Nadal, Ruud

[@benedictly1571]

Does nadal have next gen forehand or modern

[@jaliljimenez139]

What did Andy Murray use ?

[@Playyourcourt]

Andy Murray uses a blend of the next gen and modern forehand as he tends to lead with the elbow on his racquet take back and the racquet head points slightly forward towards the opponent. The remaining mechanics however are that of what we see of the modern forehand. Murrays wrist position makes his forehand unique so tough to put it in a box. Let's classify it as good, really good,. 😉🤣

[@patrickwasielewski6398]

Hi, Great analyze, thanks! I am using a Tecnifibre 315 gr t fight xtc racquet and for my tennis class a Yonex vcore 305 gr racquet. I saw that the sinner technic was easily to apply with the 305 gr racquet. Do you think that sinner technic is more adapted to lighter racquet?

[@Playyourcourt]

Hi Patrick, it really depends upon the player. The actual racket that Sinner plays with is exceptionally heavier than the stock version as its modified greatly. Sounds like you're on the right track with the frames your using though. Happy hitting my friend!

[@patrickwasielewski6398]

@@Playyourcourt thanks for your answer! I am following testing his technic with both racquets I have. Warm regards

[@Phamminhducbtc]

Federer and Nadal use nextgen forehand now. Tks

[@MyBabybuddha]

Does Nadal have modern or next gen?

[@Playyourcourt]

Hi, Nadal has a modern forehand. His laso finish revolutionized the game however and is adopted by must pros currently when it is necessary. Thanks for watching!

[@cardintran1866]

Love ur videos this has helped me a lot

[@Playyourcourt]

Cardin Tran thrilled time hear the instruction helped. We appreciate the feedback 🙏🏻

[@Playyourcourt]

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[@geepeeone]

I went from modern ATP forehand to WTA forehand. It worked better for me, tbh. I’m a dude.

[@wackojumey]

Doesnt matter if you are a dude. WTA style is somewhat more controllable and comfortable in my opinion, I prefer it over ATP as well (dude). But you do need a slight bit more time. ATP is shorter because during (high level) play there is less time to prepare and swing. Just my view point!

[@geepeeone]

WackoJuMey It took me some time to admit that it’s more appropriate at my level, fewer moving parts, less likely to breakdown in period s of stress. I have a single hand backhand patterned from a WTA player as well (Henin) and I hit it as confidently as I do my forehand. I leveled up quickly when I made the transition.

[@Playyourcourt]

geepeeone nothing wrong with that at all, in fact if you can time the bigger swing of the WTA forehand, more power to you. Pun intended, there’s considerably more power with the WTA forehand at the recreational level than those trying to adopt the ATP forehand. As mentioned below the abbreviated swing on the ATP is only a result of the speed of the game at that level. Not discussing the WTA take back in the vid was an oversight. Keep cranking those forehands sir!

[@drzoltanvajo142]

Does Scott resemble Jack Sock, or is it just me thinking this? :)

[@Playyourcourt]

Yes he does, or at least that has been the general consensus amongst our audience. 🤣

[@jmen4071]

How would you describe Lendl/Sampras forehands? Not classic like Macs. Not modern like Feds. There is an evolution. Borg-Lendl-Federer.

[@Playyourcourt]

J Men great question, in my opinion those two forehands in particular where the first of what is now considered the Next gen forehand. The unique way in which they pulled the racquet back with the elbow leading is exactly what we see with the next gen forehand as well.

[@kelleyfamily2636]

FWIW, I think Borg was way ahead of his time. His stroke was really pretty modern in a lot of respects. Lendl/Sampras I think was kind of a step towards a modern stroke, but those strokes used the elbow more like a modern stroke uses the wrist. Not throwing any shade though - Lendl and Sampras could lay some serious wood to a forehand.

[@jemand8462]

the next gen forehand can'T be a lot of work... if Kyrgios is playing it.

[@fingersm]

Not a fan of next gen forehand.. jmho. Fed/ novak have best forehands and they are old geezers. Young kids cannot compete

[@Playyourcourt]

frank mancuso time will tell but hard to argue the current facts. Thanks for the feedback Frank.

[@Masta_Z]

Nathan's forehand looks like Naomi Osaka's

[@Playyourcourt]

zhen zu I can live that. 😉

[@moikeru1]

Nextgen forehand looks like Nishikori's one.

[@Sebastian-wz1wh]

Dominic Thiem is starting to see the consequences of using the next gen forehand

[@Playyourcourt]

It appears you could be right. Hope he's back in action soon

[@willpellegrini3386]

Imagine thinking Thiem has a next gen forehand lol, and Tsitsipas has a classic forehand with an eastern grip, only difference is he gets below the ball but u have bad examples

[@rizwanramzan5729]

The Mcenroe forehead is weird..

[@Playyourcourt]

Rizwan Ramzan lol, it was indeed funky...but effective.

[@vectorthurm]

It’s really not weird..it works perfectly for his game. He was always attacking and getting into a volleying situation..he was pretty good at volleying.

[@rizwanramzan5729]

Its a classic "fundamentals" stroke. A continental grip...very flat...keep the ball low and attack the net...great for serve and volleyers..

[@vectorthurm]

“Funky stupid old school continental…” funny how younger players shame the classic game. C’mon man.. Sorry, just a bit frustrated as a 49 yo trying to update that funky stupid continental FH 😂

[@Playyourcourt]

We have nothing but love for the Continental grip! Heck these days I use it more than a semi-western as its what I largely play with when instructing.

[@tonyyayooo1813]

That poor college kid. They ruined his forehand. Wtf

[@nathantseng8513]

how?

[@jaliljimenez139]

Yeah how ?