A Search for the Perfect QB Throwing Motion! | NFL Films Presents

[@retrocny5625]

NFL films needs to do more stuff like this. Really in-depth stuff. One of the best little films you've put out in recent memory.

[@bmt2125]

BUT WHO WILL TELL ME WHICH TEAM WANTED IT MOAR?!?!?

[@packersauburneric3625]

Ya i miss the sabol days nfl did it better then

[@oscarhanson3095]

yeah, and why can’t the NBA do docs like these 😭

[@JTD472]

HAHAH HE SAID “PUT OUT”

[@BTwarrior21]

All leagues for all the top spots and positions. @nhl @nba etc

[@Packers_Nation]

This is one of the GREATEST ever done by NFL Films!

[@phillipstrait9387]

Irvin description of Aikman ball , "stop go ahead and catch me baby"😂😅😂

[@kingcurmudgeon8685]

Most accurate arm I’ve ever seen. Robotic in its precision

[@r.williamcomm7693]

Pretty sure that interview is from Aikman's Football Life episode. It's excellent. Irvin of course was The Playmaker.

[@jjm1123]

19:54 I love how they use Tebow to exemplify how the ball shouldn't be thrown

[@YourMachines]

Haha...yeah

[@tygrkhat4087]

In my prime, I'd have been lucky to throw a football 30 yards. I still had a better throwing motion than Tebow. And we're both lefties.

[@grantschoen1726]

no mention, no comment, just some passive aggressive shade lol 😂

[@Disxreet]

@@tygrkhat4087Tebow was throwing 50-60 yards downfield with that horrible motion.

[@tygrkhat4087]

@@Disxreet True, I don't have the arm strength that Tebow has; I just look better throwing the ball than he does.

[@dielotr]

respect to Josh Allen shouting out the unexpected… Sam Darnold. That spin rate is indeed insane

[@bobbytux4735]

Tom just sitting like a statue as 5000 pound of athlete runs everywhere. A painting.

[@npd6225]

Calm in Chaos

[@kelseywalker2342]

Didn’t hurt that it was a 3 man rush for that play lol

[@riosborne6]

I mean... more like 3,000 lbs but still

[@malikwilliams8643]

​@riosborne6 average NFL player weight is 245, there are 21 players besides Brady, that's 5100 lbs. There's no reason to correct someone if you don't know what you're talking about.

[@a_coleman11]

Tom has one of the best throwing motions too.

[@essquared24]

This video could’ve been 7 hrs long

[@joem1382]

I agree

[@FanIam503]

Should’ve.

[@Serit0nin]

Can't wait to see how many Bears QB's are in this!

[@Serit0nin]

Zero. The answer was zero.

[@swrcomswrcom5306]

Sid Luckman if he was still alive

[@jts1977]

People love to clown the Bears for never having had a 4k yard passer, but Cutler had a cannon and put up still decent stats. And this film's footage and interviews were conducted prior to this season, so it was too early for Caleb Williams, who can also sling it. He can get great velocity from all kinds of weird angles. With the right coach and scheme he'll be great.

[@robcanisto8635]

you mean Mr. Generational isn't given a fluff segment!!?!?! WHAT!?!?

[@Nuck82]

Lol you won the Internet. This broke me

[@DaleDan-Tony]

@7:33 when Jason asked Brees “how do you grip the ball?” And Brees without a thought licked his fingers just like in his playing days before gripping the ball. It’s just innate.

[@douglasiles2024]

Old habits never die.

[@Isaac-qe2in]

I like Brees, and would enjoy seeing him back in the commentating booth. But seeing some of his clips reminded me of some of his tiresome mannerisms, rituals, and tics. I don't accurately remember the continual progression of his career since his Purdue days to know when these peculiar quirks seemed to gain their own traction in his career profile.

[@tvp2003]

Great piece. And having Rodgers demonstrate the evolution in his own mechanics really helps to show the transition to what guys are doing now. As someone who very closely studied the guys in the 80s (Marino) and 90s (Aikman, Favre, Bledsoe) this was really interesting to watch.

[@xcreenplay7264]

I feel silly that never realize rodgers does a little hop before throwing smh lol

[@EddiXP]

Whose your favorite pretty pass, sir?

[@slimdagreat]

i wish they would do more stuff like this. something on how WRs get seperation, how OL block, etc.

[@packersauburneric3625]

Fr

[@ashyneckpillow]

OL would be really fun to watch

[@rotaryperfection]

Warren Moon threw the prettiest tightest spirals without question. He gets glanced over in this video like an after thought.

[@Yeomannn]

Elway, Moon, and Marino all got glanced over in this video. All three of those guys could still throw with strength and accuracy even in their late 30s. Brees can't even throw a football anymore. How does this guy have the best throwing motion when these other guys exist?

[@jonmolina948]

Brees had quick feet, probably the fastest dropback ever. He had to get back there quick because of his height.

[@Possiblechange]

Check out, The Art Of The Spiral… NFL Films covered him in that video

[@CertifiedPG]

@@Yeomannn Brees couldn’t throw anymore because of injury. What point are you really making? Seems like a bunch of yapping

[@udontknowdave2155]

@@CertifiedPGmorons

[@mattmccegan7966]

Beautiful.. Watching Aaron Rodgers throw the ball is like watching art.. The greatest thrower of the football ever...

[@paolacipriani4017]

Aaron Rodgers is the best thrower ever and it’s not even close… work his craft behind Brett Favre to throw the most accurate and beautiful ever in any angle and in the move also, unreal…. In his peak Aaron Rodgers is the best Qb I have ever seen…

[@RicardoBustillo-u1h]

@@paolacipriani4017Im sad to hear you never saw Tom Brady

[@RicardoBustillo-u1h]

LMAO that’s such a bs statement

[@paolacipriani4017]

@@RicardoBustillo-u1h i saw Tom way too mucho and cheated also knowing defensive signals right? as a pure arm talent dont compare child please... Brady has great resume fine but he Is not the best thrower at all...

[@paolacipriani4017]

@@RicardoBustillo-u1h you probably never saw Aaron prime also because to right Its BS... Sound you know Little about football. Why they bring Aaron to explain his mechanic because he Is the best ever throwing the ball....

[@LDR-l4r]

Looks like 2000's NFL films vibes. Nice work. We want more videos like this one.

[@vmax4575]

Marino had no wheels coming out of college but he had such a quick release that he would go from looking to throwing in a split second. Defensive linemen and linebackers would tackle him and then look up and see Dan looking down the field and a receiver running with the ball. No sack.

[@jaredmichaud6754]

Jason seems like a great guy

[@davetron3030]

I was sitting here thinking something similar "...this is the most I've been interested in listening to Jason Garrett talk about football". He's a good narrator!

[@kingcurmudgeon8685]

Awful head coach. Maybe a great guy otherwise

[@elijahthompsonsr.7628]

Michael Vick, Warren Moon, Troy Aikman, Dan Marino, John Elway, Aaron Rodgers, the best I've ever seen. Especially Vick. Unbelievable and a lefty. Steve Young too

[@erikpuka2627]

Vick had no accuracy

[@elijahthompsonsr.7628]

@erikpuka2627 the video is about throwing motion. Elway wasn't accurate either

[@diegodelgado9764]

videos like this could really help evolve the sport

[@skalawitz]

Aaron Rogers basically can throw a solid right hook if he is a pro boxer.

[@zacenroe]

Or a good open stance forehand in tennis. He would be an insane tennis player.

[@zacenroe]

In other sports, Nick Kyrgios would probably be an insane quarterback

[@yepdontcarebud]

This is all why he's good at golf too lol you could literally hear all these same biomechanical teachings from any rando golf instructor on KZbin lol same concepts. Utilizing ground forces, weight transfer, hip rotation, disassociation of the upper/lower body, arm slot, taking tension out of the arms. I just went on a rant about all this just a few days ago on Cam Newtons channel lmao

[@Yeomannn]

The rotational guys like Rodgers, Marino, and Elway, etc. can probably throw devastating punches.

[@taraalbright8094]

That last slow-mo of Mahomes throwing w a smile when it was caught is beautiful

[@ac4185]

Man, social media has a lot of crap but stuff like this is golden. I used 90% arm when I was a kid. I had not idea how to throw. CJ Stroud has talked about how he watched a lot of Drew Brees coaching videos and basically learned QB through him. Stuff like this is awesome because it levels the playing field. Back in the day you needed to hire expensive coaches and go to camps. A lot of kids don’t have that opportunity. Now with the little research, you can find almost anything on KZbin how to improve.

[@novemberfestxo]

Vick has the smoothest throwing mechanics ive ever seen.

[@blkmamba31]

Tony Romo threw one of the prettiest balls I’ve ever seen. His motion and the way the ball left his hands was something to see

[@endicot0195]

How can you have this discussion without talking to Dan Marino! Greatest throwing motion ever!

[@kevincloonan9787]

All my years watching ball I would say Marino and Rogers for sure. The ball just explodes off their hand with such velocity

[@MGAF688]

Ground force is everything in many sports.

[@bigsnap5]

NFL Films doing NFL Films type things. Love it!

[@patsnation1402]

Aaron Rodgers is my favorite player of all time and that guy throws the most beautiful ball. I still go back to watch his highlights and its just so pure

[@SDG116]

Couldn't agree more!

[@kingcurmudgeon8685]

He has the fastest release I’ve ever seen. I still think I’d take Aikman becuase of his high accuracy and precision

[@SDG116]

@kingcurmudgeon8685 while I certainly don't mean to question your opinion because you have your right and preferences, I am however curious of this choice of Aikmam over Arod for precision and accuracy when Arod has played 6 more seasons than Aikman as a starter and still has fewer INTs than Aikman (116 to 141) a higher completion % than Aikman (65 to 61) and far more TDs than Aikman (503 to 165). So by the metric of high accuracy and precision, seems like the win there would still go heavily to Arod.

[@Shiraggupta08]

As a quarterback this video was super helpful. I think aaron rodgers has the best throwing motion

[@a_coleman11]

LOVE THIS. so much science now in the game rather than just raw talent and its changing careers. plus this is beneficial for me who wants to throw better, efficiently and throw the deep ball better.

[@lIVINOTAFRAID]

"Sam Darnold throws the piss outta a ball" 😂😂

[@Serit0nin]

Dope preview. When does the 10-episode documentary drop?

[@12345idiotsluggage]

The first NFL Films video that I have stopped to watch in a long time. High quality. Nice work.

[@Newhandle1116]

Having greats break down the basic building blocks of their positions is an amazing idea

[@rickyrichreacts9667]

Tim Tebow has by far the GREATEST throwing motion evaaaaaaaaaa

[@jsax4heart]

I just wish you could have gotten the old school interviews: Namath, Marino, Bradshaw who are still around.

[@cedrichumphrey96]

Would’ve been a nice touch but can’t imagine those boys still sling it

[@elijahthompsonsr.7628]

Yes

[@eliasbutcher859]

Skip Namath and Bradshaw. Get Elway and Marino in there.

[@ScottiShark22]

Needed to interview the greatest passer of the football. Yeah, I'm a Patriots fan, but it's DAN MARINO!

[@mikechar17]

19:27 if you were teaching a 12 year old kid....proceeds to give the longest most detailed explanation ever

[@capricornmagic63]

The way Rodgers throws is the way Jeff Tedford taught all his college QBs throw, David Carr and Akili smith were the same in the way they held the ball high. I think Testaverde, Moon threw the most beautiful spirals. Marino's passes had some wobble on them from time to time but when he had time to set, that thing just flew!

[@ZxZNebula]

I love this video already, and it’s just been halfway through. NFL please do more deep dives into things like this!! You should do a deep dive into catching and the evolution of it

[@RandallBalls]

38-year-old eagles fan here. I've seen them from Montana onwards. There are many greats in this league, but the conversation about throwing motion starts and ends with this: Dan Constantine Marino. NFL Network named him as a top 10 MOBILE quarterback. If you know anything about Dan Marino, he was a statue. Go watch the clip. He made the list because his throwing motion was so incredible, it basically removed the need for mobility. It should be easily found on KZbin. Defenders like Reggie White would jump up celebrating a sack, only to realize that the nearly immobil Marino had somehow thrown the ball in under 2 seconds, perfectly on target, and at a higher velocity than had ever been seen. When asked how many touchdowns Dan Marino would throw in the modern NFL, Montana said Marino would throw 60 in his sleep.

[@JHouston62]

Show some love to Herbert! He throws a beautiful ball and seems to be able to launch it just about anywhere with insane zip

[@zachrowe6271]

Herbert swings his arm super wide with a relatively slow release which is why so many of his balls get batted. Still throws a beautiful spiral

[@JHouston62]

@ apparently he only does well in the regular season too

[@eliasbutcher859]

Amazing timing. Herby should win a playoff game first.

[@alaskancabin7506]

the shot at 6:09 is awesome with the crowd erupting in the background

[@MrOuchiez]

The way Rodgers interpreted Favres absolutely undisciplined and reckless motion through the prism of Tom Clements has changed the position forever. Wish both Favre and Rodgers weren't so damn gross nowadays, I once loved those lads GO PACK GO

[@KurthardtJr]

Scummy packers cut from the same cloth

[@derekjet7715]

What exactly has Rodgers done? I say this with good intent, aren't you able to see how you're being coerced? Why is it so bad not wanting an unknown concoction injected into your body? Why would that enrage you? Without the influence, and a smear campaign, by a powerful industry, would that really bother you? It's completely irrational.

[@GreasyWop]

if the media didnt like you they would make you look gross too. dont pretend like you know these guys. Just enjoy the football.

[@DanceswithDustBunnies]

@@GreasyWop Ever thought there might just be a reason the media doesn't like them? Rhetorical question, no answer needed.

[@Viking_367]

​​@@GreasyWop this is the most simple and complete statment on the matter. Thank you for your masterful wisdom. If only more people thought in simple terms and didnt blindly buy into what they see on TV. "I dont know him, never even been within 1 mile of him, I dont know anyone who knows him, but I know his inner personal thoughts, decisions and relationships cuz a box in my living room told me about it."

[@BTwarrior21]

This is LEGENDARY!! 🐐Definitely a video of all the greatest QB’s

[@ezemdianosike5277]

For me, watching Tony Romo's quick release brings joy to my heart

[@jmoneyp4p]

He threw the prettiest ball, I remember when he broke his ribs one game and he came back in and still threw tight spirals cause his fundamentals and release were so Perfect

[@Travistippets]

This is great, ty Aaron for influencing the next generation on great QB’s! Great stuff from everyone, Kurt is awesome! Go back go!

[@blank38]

I keep coming back to Michael Vick. I love the wrist flick and how much velocity he gets. Not the most accurate, but man it's a beautiful throw.

[@insulani]

Seeing a football flying in slow motion is such a beautiful thing to watch.

[@johnnym11]

Now we see how damage that Achillies injure had for Aron. All his process of trowing is based on foot work and hips and is very strefful for achilles.

[@GreasyWop]

wrong. Rodgers was fine this year when he was healthy. Had a hamstring and MCL injury most of the year, plus a washed Tyron Smith "protecting" his blindside. Aaron Rodgers | 2024 Highlights kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZ69aH-rjdVgpdE Does this look like a guy who cant throw anymore?

[@Viking_367]

Its less stressful than normal mechanics where 100 percwnt of your weight is on your front foot like a kart wheel. He uses much more of hos good leg with his mechanics. The Achilles just limited his ability to do crazy stuff outside the pocket but he started regaining that coordination later in the year

[@Viking_367]

​​@@GreasyWop his achilles limited him and lead to more injury around it early on. Achilles tears essentially lead to atrophy of the muscles around it, which leads to more imbalance. Very hard to come back from and Rodgers did it

[@flugplatz21]

Rogers talking about what he learned from Favre and the strong base and weight transfer is really basic jump shot mechanics in basketball. Stronger legs give a strong base, that adds range. A strong core allows different positions and contact while squaring the shoulders to the hoop. Baseball infield skills are great for the modern QB, too.

[@mmsizzlak]

My little 8 year old nephew asked me to throw the ball with him... Then, like most kids, he started asking questions, specifically on how to throw... After watching this, I guess I'm a Kurt Warner kinda passer lol.. Literally saved this video so I can show him how the pros do it, instead of listening to a scrub

[@horsepastedelish]

Michael Vick's throwing motion looked smooth. Quinn Ewers throws a beautiful ball.

[@mmclaurin8035]

I could hear Drew Brees talk about throwing a football all day.

[@drrichardwiesenhuber]

Well done NFL Films! I personally think that Jay Cutler had the most beautiful throwing motion. Fluent, effortless and natural.

[@Steven-kl6lh]

Early in the video, Aaron said throwing, all starts with the feet ...which is absolutely correct.... when I coached, I went even further,...I taught TOES...all sports, soccer, baseball (pitching, hitting and fielding), boxing, tennis, BASKETBALL...ETC.ETC. IT ALL STARTS WITH THE FEET BUT SPECIFICALLY, THE TOES...😁✌️🙏

[@brandonstewart8083]

I've seen some highlights of Randall Cunningham when he was with Minnesota imo he had a great throwing motion it really looked like a cannon shot and pretty accurate on deep passes

[@jonmolina948]

Randall had a long delivery though. Didn’t matter though when he’s going bombs away to Randy Moss💣 Somehow he threw for 400 yards in the Fog Bowl where he couldn’t see his receivers and they couldn’t see the ball.

[@lyleada2226]

14:40 Josh giving some love to Sam Darnold.

[@Andrew-ft5zf]

Crazy they didn’t mention Justin Herbert once in this piece.

[@JJAce51829]

Unreal!

[@24tcwarrior]

Evan Svoboda from Wyoming can really spin it. I think he has one of the best and consistent spirals. Everyone should take a look at his throws.

[@jackmiller-johnston8689]

21:50 video, not sure how many hours went into it's making...this starts with Dan Marino, and ends with Dan Marino. The quickest and most lethal release to ever be unleashed in a football game. Ball goes UP, and OUT

[@bradenm8485]

Aaron Rodgers has the best throwing motion of all time.

[@johhnyytwotime510]

Bro did you not watch the video? It's literally drew brees 😂

[@IFUSlON]

@@johhnyytwotime510 brees had the most consistent. rodgers didnt need to be consistent because he would do weird angle throws all the time and it worked for him. same applies to pat

[@Viking_367]

​​​@@johhnyytwotime510 too much wasted motion in his movement. Too much rotator cuff use to make up for it. Thats why he has trouble holding his arm above the shoulder and throwing a football only a few years after retirement. If youre throwing a ball 70 yards with minimal effort and not damaging your shoulder in the process, you have the superior throwing mechanics. Thats objective. Tom House looked at very specific factors of kinematic sequencing that dont always translate in the real world. Brees arm wasnt that strong, he didnt have the quickest release in the NFL and he couldnt make throws very well off platform like Rodgers, Mahomes, Allen(rotational throwers). Tom House said Brees mechanics were best because Brees was similar to a pitcher, that throws a ball down a mound in a straight line with no one in the way.

[@Ann-yo5sb]

As a Rodgers fan I would like to agree, but can't. Have heard multiple pros say - don't watch Rodgers tape. He does things only he can do. Same would be true for Mahomes and a few others.

[@Viking_367]

@@Ann-yo5sb you are 100 percent correct. Thats why they only focus on Rodgers in the beginning and not much after, they dont really talk about Mahomes at all. Its because its very hard to replicate some of the things they do but what they do is elite movement and achieve elite leverages with minimal movement. Thats why they have such force with such little movement. Teaching over the top mechanics with driving energy forward is a much easier way to get average people to throw a football well

[@Evebr]

I was surprised to see this available in KZbin instead of a paid streaming service. Excellent work. Thank you.

[@gagelong573]

Drew Brees. The most underrated, most underappreciated, player of the game. Take a bow. Who Dat forever

[@erikpuka2627]

Amazing player before his body staryed to betray him around 2018

[@DontLetTheOldManIn]

NFL Films just needs to watch NFL Films from about 1970 - 1990, and just do that.

[@mindeloman]

It was good to see they included the great Johnny Unitas at 20:59.

[@DontLetTheOldManIn]

THIS IS FREAKING GENIUS GOLD!!! MORE OF THIS!!

[@chhatwalkishore4710]

It’s surreal watching Josh go from a kid throwing his shoulder out for a pass to a man using the earth force to throw the ball; truly a work of art.

[@TheAvargas687]

This is awsome love this , just wished you guys interviewed the masters of the thrower , Marino, Namath, Bradshaw , Elway and warrin moon

[@Viking_367]

They did interview him, its Aaron Rodgers

[@Jus2Trill07]

From what I've seen it's Rodgers and Marino. Now I have to add my boy young Jayden Daniels. He has a beautiful quick release... reminds me of Rodgers, Steve Young, and even Charlie Ward at FSU back in the day.

[@Jus2Trill07]

​@chopin1975-tq3gx Yes I'm comparing his THROWING MOTION and RELEASE. Although his name will probably be up there as well overall when it's all said and done if he stays on this path

[@Jus2Trill07]

@chopin1975-tq3gx Of course... which is why I said "if he stays on this path". I lived thru rg3 injury and Sean Taylor getting murdered... of course I know anything can happen

[@padraiglocke8844]

Love our Arod in New York , pity we have terrible owners, I hope he does not retire!

[@stevenesquivel1778]

Dan Marino had the perfect throw

[@John-vm2sq]

Havent watched this yet, but Vick's throwing motion and release was the cleanest and smoothest. It is akin to Griffey's swing. Everyone else looks like they are trying to get the ball there. Vick could toss it 60-70 yards and it would look identical to just a 5 yard dump pass. I will be pissed if they don't even mention Vick in this. Edited: yep, figures. Didnt even show one clip of Vicks lasers and release. Everyone putting Brees as the mount rushmore motion... Lol. Please. He was having to essentially stand on his tippy toes to throw it over the line because he was so short.

[@leighw9684]

It is such a pleasure to listen to Aaron Rodgers talk about football...and only football.

[@eliasbutcher859]

Truth can be uncomfortable.

[@legendarycraig882]

I could never make my arm look as cool holding a football like how it looks when Troy Aikman holds it lol

[@TheVic18t]

Hate to say this but this all begins with Brett Favre while they are giving Aaron Rogers all the credit 😂

[@zfergus79]

Harbaugh reiterating what Sam Wyche said is awesome. 👌

[@raquandavis1801]

I think Tom has the best throwing motion but Marino had the quickest release

[@drdringus8054]

Aaron Rodgers has the shortest, quickest and most compact motion. The result is 10/10 for style, power and accuracy.

[@douglasiles2024]

I never really paid close attention to Rivers' throwing motion until this video. It was about as unorthodox as you could get, but it worked for him and that's all that matters. Having watched Brees up close from the sidelines, he was able to generate a lot of power for a smaller quarterback.

[@averyj9779]

One of the greatest videos NFL Films has done recently in my opinion!

[@tywinders7628]

Drew on Mahomes: "there's a lot of God in that" Nothing more true than that.

[@Packers_Nation]

With all that said..... It helps if your hands are freakin huge lol

[@soar011belize]

Poor Kenny Pickett

[@donONE225]

The way Michael Irving explained that made me bust out laughing 😭

[@kevincloonan9787]

Now it makes sense why Aikman would struggle throwing a wet ball...He doesnt use the laces to grip !!! Thats crazy

[@porterwake3898]

Brett Favre: Just throw it hard.

[@MH-ev3wr]

Peak evolution of the throw is the Tuck Rule throw 🙄

[@jaxbanuelos7660]

Best nfl films video in recent memory

[@action55jackson]

I learned this watching slowmo of Tiger's golf swing. I went from slices to draws over night. Now i can do the things Hogan preachs in his book 5 Lessons.

[@mcsuchnsuch]

Crazy that no one mentioned Joe Montana.

[@ethansavatar1815]

Reminds me of the old videos back in 2018-2020 love to see it.

[@bostons_departed3631]

lol the Rivers story reminds me why as kids us 3/4 and wide armers were nightmares. If you don’t know how to throw a slider, just snap your elbow sidearm with a cutter grip. Close enough 😂.

[@stuartcampbell4626]

As a tennis player and golfer, gotta love that laaag...and WHIP! Dissociation of the best kind. (And Philip Rivers: the Fabrice Santoro or Jim Furyk of the gridiron 😉)

[@turdferguson2839]

Favre had the best arm in NFL history, Rodgers even admitted Favre taught him how to throw and they didnt even talk to him?!?!

[@Viking_367]

They even shyd away from Rodgers as an example mid way, didt talk about Favre or Mahomes. Marino either. Maybe those guys do things that most QBs cant and if you tried to teach those things to most QBs they wouldnt be able to do it. Drew Brees mechanics are easiest to replicate for most probably so they focused on him in the end. I have to disagree. Brees has almost no dissassociation and his weight is up, not rotating through(how the body is designed to move) he also has his weight so far forward his shoulders are ahead of everything on release. This forces you to make up for lost power using your rotator cuff. Just stand holding the positiom hes in just before release and throw a ball, all shoulder. He has shoulder problems now because of it. I think he was just naturally accurate and his success didnt have to do with his mechanics.

[@Yeomannn]

@@Viking_367 How on Earth is Brees' motion the best? It puts too much strain on the rotator cuff. Even his windup is all external rotation. It's gruesome to watch and it destroyed his shoulder for life. He can't throw a football anymore. Meanwhile Favre, Marino, Rodgers, Elway, and Moon could still throw the ball with quickness, power, and accuracy into their late 30s and 40s. There's footage of a retired 45 year old John Elway at a QB challenge throwing the ball perfectly with accuracy. Even Boomer Esiason was shocked, saying "this guy can still play!" Meanwhile Brees' arm is shot and he can't do a QB challenge even in his dreams. This video should've strictly talked about the above five guys because those are the best pure passers ever.

[@Viking_367]

@@Yeomannn I agree. The beginning was amazing as they focused on guys we would want QBs of the future to emmulate. I was disappointed with the ending focusing on a guy that doesnt do any of the "evolved" stuff the video is supposed to be focusing on.

[@Yeomannn]

@@Viking_367 Brees' lower half is almost completely dead when he throws the ball. It's the throwing equivalent of a batter using only his upper body to hit the ball instead of his whole body. His shoulder is doing the majority of the work. Joe Montana was the same, an "over the top" thrower and guess what? He had to undergo multiple surgeries on his elbow and shoulder throughout his career. By 1991 his elbow and shoulder were practically destroyed. He played in 1993 and 1994 but if you watch the footage you'll notice that he could barely throw the ball 40 yards. That lack of arm strength really came back to haunt him in the playoffs those two years. He was playing on borrowed time. He's since had a full shoulder replacement.

[@xzaticwave3000]

Sticky bandit is busy taking kids school lunch funds 😂😂😂

[@delivrance3961]

such a beautiful game!!! thank you guys, that was fascinating!!!

[@iangalt6899]

NFL Films dropping dime after dime

[@scottamolinari]

I play golf, and it was mentioned a couple of times, and yeah, there are a lot of similarities to golf. In golf, the "disassociation" is called the coil (which was also sort of mentioned too) and the strange thing is, there is no disassociation, it's a concerted movement. The movement always starts with the backswing to find the rear position, the start of the coil. Same as throwing. Then from the ground up, uncoiling the coil built up by the backswing/ rear positioning, and initiated by the hips. The exact same goes with throwing. What Josh Allen had was what golfers call arm swinging. It's what old people usually have to do because of the loss of flexibility in the torso. And yeah, it has no power and it can even hurt you over time. My grandfather loved golf, but had to stop playing because his arm swinging was killing his arthritis stricken shoulders.

[@MyFirstYoutubeHandle]

The Bruce Lee one inch punch speaks volumes to the “whip” effect the body can achieve

[@kentstallard6512]

The rules changes are really the story. It's impossible to stop a good passing attack now. Decades ago a 50% completion rate was considered excellent. Now it's terrible. But most of the more recent rules changes are about mitigating injury. CTE will eventually end tackle football. No rules or equipment can prevent it. The Pro Bowl is a preview.

[@MidAgeRulz]

Garrett interviewed with Dan Patrick this week and said they have dozens of hours of footage that they had trouble paring down for this video. I’m hopeful they can put out more like this one with that material.