NFT game Dookie Dash pulled due to rampant cheating

Today we look at an NFT game that was so rampant with cheating that it was taken down early with some bretty bizzare consequences. nothing new to see here in the Web3 Space, most crypto related projects follow the same path, fail forward until you reach god-tier in the metaverse. this game was supposed to be a blockchain based game but ultimately ended up hosted as a... browser game....
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[@joruffin]

I'll also point out that there's no way to encrypt something for a client that a user fully controls in a way that the user can't decrypt it given enough work. Putting the whole game client-side for something with, supposedly, tangible real world effects is a huge violation of the programming axiom "don't trust user input."

[@ArDeeMee]

If New World can do it, so can they…? Gosh, that was a funny game. =D

[@cbhlde]

Do not trust this positive comment! ;)

[@Keisuki]

Right. "Encrypted" isn't the right term, rather "Obfuscated".

[@cbhlde]

@@Keisuki Yeah, it's like plausible deniability in that way. ;)

Yeah it's probably just obfuscated, but even if it was encrypted, the client would need to have the key anyway.

[@dakat5131]

Cryptobros: "unlike banks, the blockchain is forever! They can never take away our assets" Yugalabs: "At any time we can just set the value of your NFT to zero."

[@kyleoates6367]

And the Anti-NFT crowd has been saying this since day one. They own nothing. Everything they've spent thousands and hundreds of thousands on can be gone on a whim.

[@justawanderingoldman7699]

Cryptobros: "B-BUT IT'S ILLEGAL!"

[@JohnSmith-ox3gy]

You've been FUNGED!

[@randomfurrymanintheinternet]

*screen records their jpeg’s*

[@nittayoshifumi8252]

@@JohnSmith-ox3gy oh god that sounds disgusting

[@ericconnor8419]

I suspect the Venn diagram of 'People who like NFTs' and 'People who cheat at computer games' is a circle.

[@BryceDixonDev]

Just as the diagram of "People who like NFTs" and "People who know what NFTs are" is two completely separated circles.

[@DustD.Reaper]

I think cheating in games really depends on the context of it and cant just all be grouped into the same group - a singleplayer game with nothing to gain and just for fun? nothing wrong with that - a game where there is a potential real life gain you can get or just to ruin it for others? really really bad - a bad crypto bro thing? dependant on the intentions, monetary gain? bad thing; exploiting it to make fun of them for how bad it is? fair game

[@PhilBoswell]

I would think there are plenty of people who are smart enough to cheat *and* smart enough to avoid NFTs like the plague…

[@jackgamer6307]

Oh I'll have you know I game genie'd my fair share back in the day, and the only thing I like that involves NFTs is laughing at cryptobros

[@Nevernamed]

They're two concentric circles, and the cheating circle is slightly larger.

[@aethertoast4320]

Wow, so a game that has people who care only for money and not art as the main audience has fallen apart because of rampant cheating by people who just want money with no integrity for rules? That is so shocking. I never would have guessed that would happen.

[@raglock1433]

Not even normal gamers have this kind of integrity.

[@ferdinand12390]

shocked i tell you, shocked

[@REON-pw5ze]

Baffling

[@ekki1993]

If only there was a body of research done about monetary gain and its influences of gaming. Clearly there was no warning whatsoever that this would happen.

[@sonnguyen-iv7gv]

yeah how shocking a game was built for a community that is well known for cheating and scamming, got cheated and the company behind it scammed buyers

[@xenofes2]

I don't know how anybody can see a toilet humor browser game connected to something they've invested thousands of dollars in and still have any faith in that company. BAYC flushing their monkeys down the toilet is such an apt metaphor, it's like they accidentally cared about art for once.

[@voxkoshka]

If Kali yuga labs does read as a troll at this point your not looking

[@arcadeinvader8086]

it's because they're the same people who like those awful "mature" cartoons. Seriously, there are people who think shows like paradise PD are the absolute pinnacle of comedy, and I bet that crowd has a massive overlap with the crypto bro community. Especially considering that NFT cartoon we got a few episodes of was a similar caliber of humor.

[@Kraus-]

They're taking the piss for sure. Mfers use an SS symbol as their logo ffs.

[@housemouseshorts]

@@Kraus- thats not takeing the piss doing the research these guys have connections to hard core neo nazis soo.

[@superscatboy]

"The horse has bolted! Quick, lock the stable door!"

[@webbowser8834]

What an incredible metaphor for the entire situation. This is great.

[@DavySolaris]

​@@webbowser8834it's an extremely old adage

[@webbowser8834]

@@DavySolaris I love it.

[@williamdrum9899]

Schools that have a metal detector the day after some kid has a gun in their backpack

[@tomd1209]

This is as shocking as the time that I left chicken out to thaw and my dog ate it. Who could have known that my dog would do that? I just assumed he would follow the rules, he seemed like a trustworthy guy!

[@how2pick4name]

Sounds like my cat that NEVER EVER got on my table ripping a raw steak off it and walking away like a lion with a wildebeest. :D

[@bahamutdragon1754]

Alas, another attempt at creating libertarian canines has failed.

[@DustD.Reaper]

Every single time some crypto bros mess up something extremely simple, I am just picturing them looking at a fire and geniuenely trying to put it out with gasoline and then wondering why the fire gets bigger

[@professorfukyu744]

But gasoline doesnt burn!

[@Scudboy17]

And they'll get mad at the guy that tells them pouring gas on a fire is a bad idea.

[@nanaya7e433]

@@professorfukyu744 Its vapors do burn. If you pour gasoline on fire, it will vaporise and then burn. I can't believe it needs to be said, but don't try to put out fire with gasoline.

[@Thalatash]

@@nanaya7e433 Until your information is completely vetted, it should be considered be totally unreliable. lol

[@juances]

I get the same vibes as when seeing a random tech company deciding to create a smartlock. The electronic part will look fancy but they'll fail the basics. It doesn't matter how much technology you put on it if people can bypass it with a paperclip.

[@atrane365]

"This is the Lock Picking Lawyer..."

[@Kawa-oneechan]

"This is the Lockpicking Lawyer and what I have for you today is a total embarrassment."

[@KleinhintertupfingenTV]

To be fair, some well established lock companies fail at the basics, so...

[@justanabramspassingby]

@@KleinhintertupfingenTV Master Lock in the corner be like ...

[@sebytro]

Click on 1, nothing on 2...

[@Sheevlord]

And just like that cryptobros discovered the world of tool assisted speedruns.

[@yookeemookee]

At least when it comes to a TAS, the player in question is ultimately doing it for fun (and seeing if they can beat their own records). These crypto people are outright losing money due to this, which I find to be quite fitting considering the nature of NFTs and what they've done.

[@webbowser8834]

@@yookeemookee Most TAS' take quite a bit more skill to create as well. As someone that loves speedrunning, I have endless respect for TASers, they're an underappreciated part of the community that will occasionally help propel real time speedrunners to new heights. This was just an embarrassment.

[@sinjin8576]

A NFT project involving lies, deception, hacking and theft? How unique and unexpected!

[@Argumemnon]

Innovative, even!

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

they can work but barely anyone uses them that way to the point some game devs have put on their website a section saying they will not do NFT's then one person tried to sneak assets for some XD the games perfection thou

[@Poldovico]

The hacking's a neat new addition! Though whether "you gave me the solution to the test, so I read it" counts as hacking is debatable.

[@Poldovico]

@@senritsujumpsuit6021 I was so surprised when I realized the payload of most NFTs is just a link to the asset. I would have expected some kind of hash, at least.

[@ssfbob456]

​@Poldovico Nope, buying NFTs is simply buying a receipt.

[@bensal106]

What gets me about the official response from bored ape, is that instead of doing the most basic thing of doing a wipe, recoding and encrypt the game and do it over again, they basically say get fucked and told the consumer it’s their problem if they bought a blacklisted nft.

[@SioxerNikita]

If you encrypt the game, you can't play it without decrypting it, and if you can decrypt it, why not just not encrypt it and keep load times much shorter? I think you are misunderstanding encryption as game anti-tamper measures

[@SioxerNikita]

Beyond that, the decryption key has yo be in the game, as well as the code to decrypt

[@martinaasandersen3775]

They could have gone way simpler than that. When they obfuscated they could just have mixed up the rules functions. Ie. if seed portion A pre-obfuscate called rule A it would now instead call rule B etc. That way people couldn't have used the original rules anymore, but would not take more coding on their side (same rules just different order). However obfuscation just makes it harder to read, not impossible so with enough effort it could still be exploited (but would at least have made it harder). Also encryption wouldn't work either since the client would need the decryption key to read the rules (but could make it harder to decrypt if the key came from server-side)

[@Scudboy17]

The problem is that if they declared it all to be a total wipe and reset it they would have to admit they screwed up, which they'll never do. Much easier to "maintain brand stability" and blame the consumer who bought the blacklisted ticket than admit your wrong and legit refund people's money and fix the game.

[@Poldovico]

@@martinaasandersen3775 Any reason if the file was obfuscated someone couldn't just yank the entire thing and run it like a black box? To my understanding, obfuscated code is just hard for humans to read, but not any different for the computer to execute, so in my mind you could just plug in the seed, look at the output, and never think about what the rules are.

[@KRJayster]

I think my reaction to seeing news of this game’s existence was to say that if I had no morals whatsoever, this is the kind of game that I would make up to deliberately fleece NFT bros out of their money, because it is so utterly and possibly Ridiculous to imagine anyone taking this seriously, and they freaking do. But, who could’ve possibly imagined that yet another one of these Web3 projects turns out to be a massive scam? It’s completely unprecedented and has never happened before.

[@ihatecabbage7270]

I love it when scammers trying to outscammed each other within their circle. How lovely, we should let them trapped here.

[@YawaruSan]

One thing I have to say about Bored Apes, they are going through the motions of what an NFT project should theoretically do to be successful. Of course, it’s failing miserably because it’s a lazy, uninspired monetization scheme with the thin veneer of a video game slapped on top. NFTs are a perfect encapsulation of why Libertarian ideologies never work out in practice; people are not going to behave nicely just because it would be convenient for you. They are pay gating a monetary reward and doing quick, lazy work because they feel entitled to massive monetary gain for minimal investment. It’s “Idea Guy Syndrome” they have the ideas and aren’t willing to do the work necessary, hoping other people do it for them for free while being exclusively motivated by profit. Because that makes sense.

[@iamjustkiwi]

There's a weird irony behind libertarians where they both distrust everyone around, yet also expect everyone to trust them, because they all suffer from main character in the world syndrome. Its just not sustainable and never will be. We need to trust one another yes, but thats a lot easier when we have some actual consequences backing that trust as well.

[@YawaruSan]

@@iamjustkiwi or “trust but verify” which is the whole point of legislation to create a framework for verification. Unfortunately it gets back to the Idea Guy mentality of “I don’t want to deal with all that complicated stuff, I just wanna do what I want and make money” like no, it’s not just about you (hypothetical libertarian) being able to do what you want however you want to do it, the logical thing to do would be creating a system where everyone gets to do that within reasonable limits for everyone.

[@nathanielgarza9198]

I am not for Libertarianism as much as the next guy who graduated high school A Libertarian would of told you that there invisible hand would of eventually killed off every business that done something as stupid as they did And he would’ve also said what incentive would legislation have to monitor NFT verification. Certaintly not cause it’s convenient for them or for you The flaw in libertarianism is more to do with social classes. There is always gonna be someone on top thereby someone below we would have switched government for a ruling class. Lost all the public services that an actual business would find not excludable enough just for a handful of theoretical numbers that would be only useful ironically to a government

[@blkgardner]

The underlying problem is that the NFT is worthless, and the whole process is make-work to add more traits to a receipt of .jpg file to increase its value to a greater fool investor. No good or useful service is being produced. The whole NFT system is basically Second Life, but with built around greater-fool investing and artificial scarcity of virtual useless "assets" instead of producing slightly useful virtual assets.

[@YawaruSan]

@@blkgardner Technically everything is worthless and we project worth onto it. Funko Pop is planning to dispose of $30 million in unsold product, it’s supposedly worth millions but it’s being tossed in the trash because empty space is more valuable. NFTs are the same as TCG cards, plastic figures, posters, books, DVDs, and so on and so forth. The fact that it’s just a receipt rather than the image itself because copyright law only applies to human authorship is just a quirk of the laws we arbitrarily came up with. It’s not that NFTs can’t succeed as a concept itself, but the way they want to mass produce garbage and still tap into manufactured scarcity. I believe a way NFTs could work is if you had an MMO like Final Fantasy XI, they had relic weapons that took materials that had to be gathered from time-gated activities, took a lot of real world time to build, and if that was an NFT you could sell, it would have value and there wouldn’t be an infinite supply. Most crypto products are just designed to be rug pulls without the dedication or creativity to make a worthwhile service. Lot of the crypto stuff does just seem like programming challenges that were solved a decade ago by small, highly dedicated communities and never got mainstream popularity. The only thing that carried crypto this far is being the hot new thing, that’s seemed to mostly have died off and now we’re seeing litigation come down, but I don’t think the failure of people that never really cared about the technology and application thereof is really indicative of the potential of NFTs, but it’s possible no one ever puts in the effort and resources necessary to develop a service or system that makes NFTs work, especially if the only people looking at NFTs just want to profit on their speculative value.

[@tangentartists6876]

I love how the encryption solution heavily implies that Yugolabs believe the moonbois don't have object permanence.

[@capadociaash8003]

I can see where there coming from but for the first time cryptobros were actually smarter than they thought

[@gazeboist4535]

0:30 Objection! That is not an NFT. That is a JPEG to which an NFT is attached. Always remember: at best, if you own an NFT, you own a receipt describing the transaction, not the intangible digital thing you have nominally purchased.

[@kurtilein3]

Exception! If you make it really really small, like just a few pixels, like cryptopunks, the entire thing can fit. And now newer blockchains support large file size on chain, we will see that crash and burn when they put highly illegal stuff on the chain.

[@TorIverWilhelmsen]

You own a link to a file someone else hosts. And hope they don't replace it with Gliffy.

[@kurtilein3]

@@TorIverWilhelmsen The ultimate rugpull is to gain control of the place hosting it and replacing the image with the image of a rug.

[@gazeboist4535]

​@@kurtilein3 I don't know if that really works as an exception. The fundamental problem with NFTs is that as digital goods they fundamentally need to be fungible in order to exist. My copy of One Piece Volume 67 is non-fungible: there is exactly one book that is that specific copy of One Piece Volume 67. Other copies exist, and with sufficient effort it would be possible to create another copy of mine in particular, but it is "one object" in a way that something more abstract like a digital image (or for that matter One Piece Volume 67 in a general sense) is not. When you look at a digital image, you're looking at a particular pattern of colored dots, usually on a screen of some sort but perhaps printed out on paper or something. But the nature of all of the computing technology around us, the thing that makes it worthwhile to text someone a picture rather than mailing them a photograph, is the fact that we can interact with instructions for creating a particular digital construct and pass that around instead of the construct itself, and in general this is much easier. But once you have the instructions, you can make as many copies of the object at issue as you please, with or without the participation of the person who gave you the instructions, and that capacity is fundamentally necessary for a digital product to be a product rather than a stuxnet-style virus. Teach a man to fish, he'll need your services once. Drop a fish in his lap from a drone, he'll have to ask you every time he wants a fish. This is the problem that intellectual property law tries (and fails) to solve and/or route around. It's been with us for more than a quarter of a millenium, but the digital age has made it remarkably relevant.

[@kurtilein3]

@@gazeboist4535 I own no NFTs and probarbly never will, but you did not really respond to me and the discussion about fungible / non-fungible is bigger. The idea is that you can show that you have the original and not a copy, and in doing so you can invalidate the copies. I own unique fine art, and also collectibles where only 50 exist.

[@centurosproductions8827]

Wow, who could ever have predicted the terrible NFT "developers" who probably have never made a game before would be this incompetent at actually making a secure game? Or that people would cheat at a game that gave you real-world bonuses? Heck, this happens in games with no payout at all!

[@bluegum6438]

They don't care, it's grift all the way down

[@williamdrum9899]

It's like these people never heard of frickin' Game Genie

[@draculactica]

for people supposedly heralding the next big technological innovation, they seem to be pretty piss poor at grasping even the fundamentals of the thing they're supposedly innovating.

[@NoraNoita]

I remember my friend back in 10th grade, made a basic script program for flash games that looks at things on screen and avoids them or goes to them, that would've probably worked on this flash game as well.

[@ReigoVassal]

Yeah that's the most effective version of it. But why bother making that.

[@sanfransiscon]

Introduce a pvp mode so the crypto-bros get endlessly distracted trying to beat each other in real-time.

[@capadociaash8003]

Until they make a bot to do it for them and are free to wreak havoc on the real world once more

[@bahamutdragon1754]

Callum you missed the funniest part. You could simply delete the encrypted file and replace it with the unencrypted file.

[@kempolar9768]

"I am Callum Upton and you are not". Damn he got into degrading his viewers real quick, how did he know we were into that?

[@ultgamercw6759]

The game itself is also basically just an endless runner mixed with a sewer level. Why anyone would even want to play an endless sewer level is beyond me. Let alone pay so much for it when you can download free games that are almost identical anyway. Temple run is over a decade old and I would still take that over this game any day.

[@yookeemookee]

Because Temple Run actually has heart and soul and charm.

[@AgapeForgotten]

Another reason why the game would have suffered in web 3 is because it costs money to fix issues.. like I heard a story about Wolf Game, it was supposed to be fully on the blockchain and everything was good.. then they realized there was an issue with wolves and the way to fix it was to remint wolves since you can't change data on the blockchain.. or so I heard..

[@augustoof13]

Yeah, i’ve heard of that game before. It turned into quite the mess.

[@toriistorii6939]

Iirc it wasn't just the wolves, they had to remint EVERY token, wolves and sheep, which totaled just over 13000. And then when it was all reminted and redistributed, people got tokens they hadn't bought

[@AgapeForgotten]

@@toriistorii6939 Thank you! In a way it's sad since they tried to do something new and interesting, even if it it went wrong. At least it was an attempt.

[@carlost856]

​@@AgapeForgottenthey tried to do something really stupid and found out.

[@AgapeForgotten]

@@carlost856 Oh yeah, completely stupid.. but at one point someone got dared to drink milk from a cow and found something tolerable to some people. These people just decided to milk a bull since, well.. same animal, they saw it done before so they'll just do it without checking on anything.. oh, and they wore red.

[@KleinhintertupfingenTV]

Even if the level generation was completely server side with both the seed and the algorithm unknown, it would still be virtually impossible to protect against these kinds of attacks. Since the client (i.e. the webbrowser) needs the information of what is coming next, this information has to be streamed to the client which can be read by a bot which can fabricate the necessary inputs to beat the game. And if you don't send this information to the client, even a human player could not beat the game.

[@TheSpeep]

One way I can think of to avoid that would be to essentially google stadia the whole thing; basically handle all of the code server side and just stream the game being played to the player. I'd imagine the input lag would make the game basically unplayable and the video compression might ruin the visuals, but its not like those are fronts the game has much to lose on anyway.

[@KleinhintertupfingenTV]

@@TheSpeep Yes, that would alleviate the problem. But additionally to the difficulties you mentioned (lag and compression), it is also a rather expensive solution. Video streaming is not cheap. That's why google stadia has failed and why game streaming will not become mainstream in the near future.

[@TheSpeep]

@@KleinhintertupfingenTV Yeah I figured it would be, its basically the nuclear option to stop cheating. Also just sounds like far too much effort to ever expect out of these guys.

[@xchronox0]

@@TheSpeep Even measures at this level aren't a be all end all. If people can make aimbots just from what's rendered on the screen. Then I'm sure the same methodology could be used to avoid some obstacles. They'd have to bring people into in-person events, no own hardware, and be supervised.

[@AlphaOmega1237]

@nul Which would defeat the purpose of their "decentralized finance" that crypto and nft bros endlessly waffle on about. As such, it would never fly.

[@lifelessexpression7670]

The expressions on your face as you are reciting their attempts to fix the problem out loud are truly priceless lmao

[@falguard]

Now I want to make a '90s-type of action figure line, TMNT style, called Bad Ass Yak Coalition.

[@GhostRat__]

Who could have seen this coming!

[@peger]

People cheat in games just to be able to flex with something in front of their friends and other players. So imagine what would happen when you promise players some "financial" benefits base on they score :D

[@Lenariet]

It's either that or you have to lock down your game tight and mechanically put players on a tight leash, leading to games that are inherently restrictive. This is the core reason why we should never, ever mass adopt P2E. It only leads to games designed more poorly and less enjoyable than we currently have. I mean where is that NFT game worthy a GOTY award? Still waiting for that one, the years pass by yet it's never delivered despite presumably being tHe FuTuRe Of GaMiNg. But crypto bros and metaverse gurus refuse to listen to our warnings. And why would they? They don't care about good games, they just want money.

[@Bendilin]

This is worse than when Ubisoft saved settings for Watch_Dogs as a .txt file where you could literally go to "e3_graphics=0" and change that 0 to a 1.... Or when Gearbox saved Borderlands 2 character data as a .txt file and you could just change the number of promotional Vault Keys you were holding.

[@GorFrag]

i didn't get into crypto, it was above my head, so i never got rich. but it is reassuring that i never lost billions on it and that those grapes are very very very sour in deed!

[@involuntaryanalysis]

I made about 10K with a crypto rig, until the market crashed, and the electricity to run it was costing more than it made and shut it down. Now that money is sitting in an accounting accruing interest.

[@skupipup]

Cheating in video gaming?! Who could've ever anticipated that. /s

[@KingHoborg]

People find ways to cheat in games where there is literally no reward for it. Did they not consider that they would cheat where there is a reward?

[@yookeemookee]

At least with those games the developers expect it.

[@benjaminshinar9509]

could have all been avoided if they just released it as a game without the crypto-garbage attached to it. "hey, we took the ape characters we all love and made a game with them, have fun" then nobody would have cared if someone cheats at a game, games are supposed to be fun, if cheating makes if more enjoyable for someone, then that's ok.

[@AGS363]

0:03 While in my case correct, it is nonetheless a quite reckless statement! There can be several people with the name "Callum Upton"; so any assumption that a viewer is not "Callum Upton" is without certainty.

[@Kawa-oneechan]

Yeah, but "I'm Callum Upton and *statistically speaking* you're not" doesn't really roll off the tongue, y'know?

[@FallenActual]

"I'm Callum Upton and you're not" random other guy named Callum Upton watching... WTF man! lol

[@lloydalvarez2819]

No, I'm Callum Upton!

[@snowcow1173]

this has gone a different direction than i expected. i was expecting the normal pump dump with trash art

[@qwqeqrqtqz]

It is a game meant to be played by humans, so at some point the information about upcoming obstacles must be conveyed to the player. Given the stakes someone was bound to create a bot no matter what. I think a super human bot would have been possible based on visual information alone, no need for the seed or generation rules. But why do it the hard way, if the easy way is good enough

[@fy8798]

I mean, yes, they created a really bad game (basically like the Hugo games from 30 years ago) that was easy to bot so someone would have. They just were not only bad at making games, but also bad at making it hard to cheat. And stupid enough to set up a game like this in the first place. They didn't have to make the game a contest. They could just have, I dunno, make an actual game people wanted to play.

[@shadoeboi212]

in my own experience doing it that way is slightly more annoying then doing it the way they did

[@omegacloud222]

@@fy8798 The moment you throw money incentive or just a basic leaderboard with zero value at something, even if its intended to just be fun, its going to be cheated. Heavily. People dont care about fairness or fun, they just want to be at the top and will do anything to be there. Theres absolutely monumental amounts of examples of this so no. Crypto/NFT games, no matter if they are fun or not, will always be heavily cheated in from day 1.

[@Poldovico]

@@omegacloud222 The corollary to this is if you make something without a leaderboard or points, people will invent their own points, create a leaderboard, and cheat it anyway.

[@omegacloud222]

@@Poldovico Basically speedrunning in a nutshell. People will find any reason to cheat just to have a reason to say theyre the "best" at something.

[@Mightydoggo]

Of course, what did they though is going to happen? Every game with RMT, even the ones where it´s officially banned, have this problem. EFT got almost completely crushed by people hacking to sell stuff on 3rd party markets. NFT games naturally just go to amplify this behavior, especially since an anti social character is somewhat of a base requirement for that scene.

[@flossimoth]

all they had to do was look at Runescape - particularly OSRS - and the sheer dedication to botting in that game to see how this would go

[@tvctaswegia497]

BAYC devs when their password was hacked. "Yeah but I just changed 'password' to 'password' I'm good... right?"

[@ladyteruki]

I would love a crypt-oh advent calendar, it would put me in such a good mood to laugh at a different Neo Fungus Trader every day ^_^ This one is special because it's the Mother Of All Jpegs, though. If they can't do it right, with all the money clout can buy and vice versa, what hope is there for the others ? (none, hopefully) Fun fact, I got an add for the event NFT Paris before this video.

[@Alabenson]

I found this whole thing more interesting for the window into how sophomoric and immature these cryptobros actually are than anything else.

[@draconicfeline6177]

Like, yeah. I'd have been amused when I was in middle school but a poop game has long lost it's shine (and this is no Conkers bad fur day.)

[@ecyor0]

I do find it quite funny that NFTs, the so-called future of the internet, has its first bored ape game in flash, a technology that has just been phased out of every internet browser because it's an ancient platform with unsolvable security issues.

[@AlternateKek]

Hacking a flash browser game is literally the easiest thing ever even if its a online game, I used to do that in Stickman Arena, IMVU, Gaia, Adventure World all just using Cheat Engine as a 12 year old.

[@consistentlystupid4726]

Watching videos like this makes me happy. Not only because a bunch of greedy assholes got caught being greedy assholes, but as someone with very little computer know how I enjoy listening to the techno-wizardry of how it happened.

[@CatsMeowPaw]

The players were all cheated out of their money the moment they bought their NFT

[@gingerbill128]

NFT's have made me laugh a lot the last couple of years. Thanks for the video.

[@Xyler94]

What did they think was gonna happen? A game where you can potentially make thousands of dollars off of wasn't gonna be cheated? People cheat for FAR less rewards.

[@yookeemookee]

They've seem to have underestimated how petty some people can be. I've heard stories where people have been killed over a dollar. Literally *ONE* dollar. If people can be that heartless and uncaring just to obtain one dollar bill, people will do _anything_ it takes to acquire thousands of them.

[@billcipher8645]

​@@yookeemookee to be fair, if you are starving that dollar could save your life. At this point stealing food seems much easier but yeah

[@longdonpiano]

Thank god you made this video, until now I was sure i was callum Upton lol

[@guybrush20X6]

Oh wow, what a surprising turn of events that no one saw coming -_- These people get the entire world to hate them, but are somehow still their own worst enemy.

[@DarkBloodbane]

So that's the end of this Dumb Dookie Dash story. Now I understand what Kira meant when he mentioned about cheating this game in his second channel. Nonetheless, I was even surprised to hear that the aftermath was even more dumb. Oh dear....

[@fonesrphunny7242]

Now I'm waiting for a large NFT browser game platform. 100s of shovel ware titles, all of them easily exploitable with basic tools.

[@iamjustkiwi]

Digital homicide sweating furiously

[@involuntaryanalysis]

Heheh, we gonna redefine digital piracy. Yo ho ho motherf*ckers.

[@MeriaDuck]

"Nothing but two brain cells just vibrating to keep each other warm"

[@khandimahn9687]

Crypto bros remind of flat-earthers - you can show them definitive proof, and they'll still deny it.

[@Haimstr21]

Game looks like something taken out of Cyberpunk 2077's dystopic and absurd commercials. We might be nearing that whole era of decadence.

[@EvanBear]

This proves it: Crypto bros are the orange cats of the human species: They have one brain cell and they share it all collectively.

[@draconicfeline6177]

Except orange cats are redeemable because they are sweet and adorable. Cryptobros are almost universally awful people.

[@EvanBear]

@@draconicfeline6177 True!

[@paolo2763]

10:48 "Hey bro, could you cheat for me?" What a ridiculous concept. Paying someone to cheat for you must be PEAK laziness.

[@RedstoNeman0]

"I'm Callum Upton and YOU ARE NOT" is quite a way to start a video lmao

[@MasticinaAkicta]

Maybe one day they publish, unencrypted, a huge admin key that will pull down their whole existence. To solve it, like here in the video, encrypt it later... whut?

[@nyyfandan]

Even if this stupid game worked perfectly and no one cheated, let's not ignore the fact that it's called "Dookie Dash." Was it made by a ten year old? That's literally the best idea they could come up with?

[@cutiko]

What where they expecting the game was client side? The only way to do it is to have a socket streaming the hazards from the server in real time to the client.

[@uncleclaps44]

Howz that "Play-To-Earn" model working out for them... as expected, utter tripe!

[@Dradeeus]

This is why I think the people on the fence who say "it has problems now yes, but it has potential to be something good" are incorrect; the incentives are all there to be fast as lightning with every established cheating and exploitation method already discovered with regular, greed-driven economics, except.. you know, even less regulated by design. On top of that, if it WERE the completely safe stable thing they say it will be, it would stop attracting the very people who make up its base.

[@canuckistan5979]

Why the hell would they put the rules/level generation on the client side WHEN THEY ALREADY HAVE A SERVER! That's like programming 101.

[@ExplosiveBolts]

Can't believe they didn't see this coming. Cheating is one of the first things that crossed my mind when I heard about this trash.

[@yookeemookee]

I really can't blame you. And it's what they deserve, too, after the horrid fiasco the NFTs have caused. And soon, it'll be AI art's turn.

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

Yugalabs threatening to nix people's NFT's proves beyond any doubt that NFT's are anything but non-fungible.

[@Vapourwear]

So we've got nothing, doing nothing to chase nothing, with nothing being done to stop the nothing from increasing the value of the nothing? Truly we live in the stupidest timeline.

[@EmperorSigismund]

One part I find most offensive is that the game has a prologue that's just a poopy butt joke which is in no way necessary for the premise of the actual game... which is just a poopy butt joke. I'm certain that both poopy butt jokes were thought of in isolation from each other and the cryptobros who thought this thing up aren't even aware that they can't think of anything but poopy butt jokes.

[@joshuaporterfield6774]

Every single time any NFT/Crypto venture talks about how their particular thing is going to fix all the problems of other similar ventures it reminds me of how Heroin was originally sold as a non-addictive alternative to opium, etc.

[@builderchad1]

Thanks for the video. It's been a long time since I did web development so this might have changed but encrypting data to send to a javascript/web client is kind of pointless since the client still needs to decrypt the data in order to use it. That means the client needs a public key for the decryption so anyone who has the skill to dig into the javascript can read and use the key. So unless web tech has changed dramatically the fix that they provided, even with rule changes, would not have fixed the problem and any moderately experienced developer would know that.

[@0Ciju0]

LOL, its not even like its difficult to exploit the game either... Using something like Cetus allows you to explore the memory space of games that run in your browser. The main idea behind it is to provide us with the tools to easily find any piece of data stored in memory and modify it if needed. On top of that, it will let you modify a game's compiled code and alter its behaviours if you want. I don't see a world in where this would NOT be exploited lmao

[@martinklinger8420]

How do you not have a millions subs already? You're the best for covering all these NFT and Web3 screwups!

[@alyti]

Thank you Callum for confirming I am not you.

[@CallumUpton]

i know some of you needed it!

[@chrisg4431]

How many nails have we left before the NFT coffin is sealed? Thanks Callum, was giggling at this for a while.

[@komshobu2]

Wooooow! Who could see this coming?? (not even from mile away,but fome space)

[@hopelessdecoy]

I love this, seriously anything that damages crypto currency or NFTs as a concept makes me so happy!

[@spyr0guy]

Oh gee the browser game linked to millions in fake JPEG money was cheated? Who would have seen that coming?

[@SoulConstruct]

This is why I don't trust leader boards on pretty much any game. People are always willing to cheat just for gratification's sake, but when money is involved, such as here, the incentive is even higher.

[@Swellington_]

I’m glad Callum doesn’t feel it’s necessary to wear air traffic controllers every KZbin video he makes,idk why people do that when you know damn good well they can hear themselves speak without wearing em,and for that you get a 👍

[@1IGG]

Maybe watch less children doing youtube? I literally don't know a single youtuber who does that.

[@CallumUpton]

not gonna lie, sometimes i forget and leave them on haha

[@Swellington_]

@@1IGG nelson from the simpsons, "HAHA",lol

[@Archangelm127]

It took me 5 minutes to stop laughing and restart breathing after I saw the video title. This oughta be good. :D

[@PixelSubstream]

How hilarious they spent all that energy figuring out how to use blockchain to create a valid database of high scores without ever considering that the score themselves could be faked

[@klutterkicker]

For a minute I expected you to say they used Cheat Engine to just modify their game score. Maybe Yacht Club should do the gentlemanly thing and give the extra trait to every owned NFT. Would that be power creep?

That seems like an awful lot of work. In most of these games you can just replay the request that sends the score, but with a changed score value. Also the only thing making it on the block chain would do, is prevent BAYC from resetting the scores of cheaters.

[@Nerathul1]

I've heard the non-cheating players resorted to hiring third world people to just play the game for a few dollars a day.

[@Azakamak2401]

Clearly not a single person who worked on the project had ever looked at the leader boards of literally any browser game ever. If they had they'd have known that people will cheat just to get their name at the top of those boards and putting a money incentive at the top will ONLY ever result in more cheating.

[@mutantmaster1]

Whaaaaat Nooooo Who could have guessed that a thing that spawns scams like a person breathes, had problems with scams?

[@animegx45]

It's like closing a door without locking it.

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

I am so glad I used my inhaler before clicking on this video. Because Im cackling

[@Tim5corpion]

apparently dookey dash is back under "dookey dash unclogged"

[@Squirrelsquid]

Crypto Bros cheating in a video game? *Surprised Pikachu Face*

[@rare_edamimi_fangirl]

Wait... so people who scam other people out of money, flagrantly steal art, and ruin the environment... also cheat on online games!?!?!?! Who could've suspected this??????

[@cynicalcitizen8315]

Like how destiny pulled Trials of Osiris due to arranging matches. It was fucking hilarious to watch Bungie lose it.

[@cynicalcitizen8315]

@𓌂Pɪɴɴᴇᴅ Bʏ Callum Upton ironic that this is here.

[@Maourin]

had a good laugh, they should do these type of things more often, it's good content.

[@robdeluksschmidt]

Why wouldn't they use php to hide code??!? Would have been incredibly easy to do that....

[@Thicc_Boyo]

That would take effort that the sorts of people who's careers are entirely based on fraud can't be bothered to put in.

[@ArbitraryMind]

People still use PHP?

[@CrustedPork]

That would literally not even matter. You can easily still exploit it lol. This is A LOT of money your talking about...Cheating isn't going anywhere no matter how secure you try and make it. Actual major corporations (gaming) have been trying to stop cheaters/hackers since the beginning of time itself. It isn't hard to get into things and make a trainer of some variation. If it was, there would be a lot less hacking/cheating in general across the board. No matter HOW MUCH security they tried and put into this, it would still be cheated. You are asking them to waste a lot more effort/time doing that when they could just...Not...Considering the entire thing is a fucking scam lol. Why would they give a shit about security or any of that shit when they are legitimately trying to just scam you...I think your asking for a lot lmao.

[@robdeluksschmidt]

It would have been a cheap option that would have been better than no protection.

[@Nikki_the_G]

@@ArbitraryMind PHP is used on 75% of websites where the server side language is known. And WordPress runs on it, which is a third of the internet. Facebook, Wikipedia, Slack etc. use PHP. In other words, it's extremely popular.

[@zenhaelcero8481]

I dig that Chevy Chase intro.

[@georgesears934]

Oooh no. Who could have possibly seen that coming?

[@magnumra3911]

What if this was their grift the entire time? Basically get people to buy their crummy NFTs and then claim they're illegitimate because people cheated and keep their money 🤔

[@nalcarya]

_surprised pikachu_

[@jaegermonster9549]

Man us naysayers are sure stumped and in awe with how the NFTBros proved us wrong.