NHS Maternity: shocking report reveals two-thirds of wards unsafe for birth in England

A shocking new report is warning that serious harm in NHS maternity care will become normalised if action isn't taken.
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Inspectors from the Care Quality Commission went into 131 maternity units in England. They found that two-thirds - 65% - were not safe for women to give birth in, declaring that 47% required improvement, and 18% were inadequate.
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[@patriciavian5658]

My son was 50 last year and i landed up with PTSD after having him in hospital. My womb ripped, yes ripped out, and my back passage cut instead of an episiotomy!!! What good is an apology when you are injured, or lost a child? I have had problems in my healthbever since. NHS hasnt changed. It just continued to get worse. !!!!!!

[@jumpa654]

The NHS has to be one of the priorities for this government. Something needs to change. People's lives are on the line here

[@DileepaRanawake]

Absolutely agree

[@piotrwojdelko1150]

it is unsafe in the pharmacy to collect your correct medicine due to overloading work ,unnecessary work

[@nikw1611]

100% agree it’s an utter disgrace then people are frankly bullied to say nothing to a point people don’t stand up to say anything other wise they act like a cult against you it’s disgraceful

[@nazifaislam6636]

My first pregnancy, I was told I had choices but never actually made to feel like I was able to make those choices. A ton of coercive language used by medical staff to make decisions - And ultimately ended up with birth trauma that I needed to seek therapy for. My second pregnancy I opted to home birth as I never wanted to see the inside of a maternity unit again. And so had a single wonderful midwife throughout my entire pregnancy. Only right towards the end I had to abruptly move houses and out of the borough and so ended up having to change plans. I then chose a birthing centre. I went into the hospital at 40 weeks exactly for a check up and suddenly all the medical staff were pressuring me into getting an induction. I refused which they were not happy about but again made to feel silly about my decision. The registra started using coercive language talking about still birth. Mentioning how even if the percentage was less that 1%, I wouldn't want to be that 1%. I didn't give into the pressure however and had a healthy plump baby at 42 weeks with no complications whatsoever. By the time it was time for my third I was aware of what they were going to throw at me. I finally went in for a hospital birth 3 days before my due date. They were understaffed severely. I saw one midwife right at the beginning when put into a room and then right at the end as I was pushing. My husband was basically my midwife. After I had given birth I said I wanted to deliver my placenta naturally. The midwife said 'don't make this more difficult for me please' and proceeded to give me the injection! I was shocked. Stupidly I felt sorry for her as she was under severe pressure due to short staff and the high number of births that day. - In hindsight I should have put in a complaint. THIS NEEDS TO CHANGE! 3 Births from 2018 onwards and not one full complete positive experience!

[@faduma9842]

There really is no choice with the maternity care system, you only have full autonomy and CHOICE when you choose to birth at home.

[@pickupmygroceriespeasant]

That midwife assaulted you. She continued to act even after you explicitly told her she did not have your consent. Disgusting behaviour. If it's not too late, consider putting in that complaint.

[@rebeccaredhead7144]

@nazifaislam6636 I'm so sorry to hear what you went through. Thank you for sharing it though as it helps other women to know what they may face and stand their ground.

[@nikw1611]

Their disgraceful

[@elenageo9268]

At Watford Hospital they pushed me to an unnecessary induction of labour. I was not informed and not able to say " no" and defend my baby. They treated me like an animal. Being abused at birth is worse than rape, i experienced both.

[@monicagouveia8985]

Was this recently? :( oh my gosh... I'm being followed there atm. I am so sorry for your experience...

[@kevinwilliams1768]

what . Nah this is unbelievable . You would of expected this from a third world country not a country of first status as the UK. This is very concerning & unacceptable.

[@Curlie_Mermaid]

I think that Britain will no longer be a 1st world country. It now seems that Europeans can't run countries properly anymore. Too far-left, strange ideologies.

[@apebass2215]

Import the third world, become the third world.

[@apebass2215]

Import the third world, become the third world.

[@Shitposter-yp7dj]

@@kevinwilliams1768 we've imported that 3rd world... what do you expect

[@mp71001]

@@Shitposter-yp7dj No this is also happening in parts of the country that are still majority native english. It’s very much a nation-wide issue.

[@Cappellano]

If you’re pregnant, please get a Doula. She will be your advocate.

[@mwahha6965]

What is this? Yes I’m pregnant

[@sorinabercu7095]

I Was treated like an animal in Leeds hospital on maternity ward!

[@darrenmartin-walkeden1438]

I watched my friend have her 1st child a Leeds LGI , An the care an equipment wasn't that of a 1st world country I feel for the nurse ect as there trying there best with what they've got

[@nikw1611]

They are an absolute disgrace

[@rebeccaredhead7144]

Mothers to be, I know it's not fair, but save up every penny you can and see I you can go private or have your own midwife....because it could save yours and your baby's life 😢

[@DileepaRanawake]

This is so concerning. The NHS needs more funding.

[@Longlostpuss]

Do you understand how big the figure one billion is? Just ONE billion? There is more than enough money, the money being extracted from taxpayers isn't the problem. The problem is how that money is being spent and where it is going. The NHS has had more than enough money pumped into it down on paper.

[@Madonnalitta1]

No, it doesn't.

[@janepearson5802]

Needs privatising

[@beatamafulu2405]

I think it is the management of the funding.

[@lks6248]

No. It needs a complete shake down to get rid of waste and inefficiency and to redirect resources. The fact that a small country like ours has an nhs which is in the biggest four employers IN THE WORLD is preposterous

[@janolaful]

This is nothing new cousin Sheila gave birth 37 years ago she was supposed to have a c section no the doctor said she can give birth he naturally 48 hrs she gave birth 7 days later she was dead at 29 . Totally and utterly neglected . I always said my aunt and uncle should of took him to court she wasn't the only one still angry after all these years

[@ordinarybread]

I had a 4 day forced induction I did not want, I was denied a c-section after asking 5 times, they broke my waters and put me on pitocin, I couldn't handle the pain. My labour lasted 36 hours, you're not supposed to go 24 hours past waters breaking for infection risk. I ended up in theatre with an emergency c-section because I was passing out from exhaustion, I wasn't allowed to eat due to the general anesthetic risk I posed and I have scoliosis which makes spinal blocks nearly impossible to put in me. 0/10 would not do it again. Southend Hospital btw.

[@dorino9057]

Did you get an epidural?

[@ordinarybread]

@@dorino9057 I did, it lasted 4 hours, they had to attempt the insertion about 5 times.

[@Karkonosze-o8u]

Psychopats

[@christine899]

I gave birth to my first child in hospital in 1963 the NHS had only been around 15 years then and I was well looked after, my next three children I had at home a really good experience got to know my midwife, this was 1965 1966 and 1968 my fourth child I had in hospital 1973 it was the time of power cuts because of strikes, I went into hospital at about 1.00am and was given drugs to stop my contractions as the maternity unit was on emergency power I had a very uncomfortable few hours before I was allowed to give birth this was not really the hospitals fault, but it seems to me that in the early days of the NHS we were looked after a lot better than today, with all the super duper equipment (which half the nurses don't know how to use) from my own experience in 2019, it is not just about money, it is the hospital staffs attitude towards you that needs to change, so many nurses now go from university onto the wards no experience with patients, as in the old days they learnt on the wards as well a going to class's people are not text book we are all different and need to be treated as individuals, and a lot of nurses just don't give a damn about you.

[@lks6248]

My mother was in nursing and midwifery and she well remembers the days of the ward sister. They ran a tight ship and standards were quite simply not permitted to drop! Nowadays all manner of dross is working in our hospitals and it shows.

[@22SeaJay]

That's a really good point. The diploma route should never have been axed! Not everyone needs a degree, for heaven's sake.

[@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts]

Some things just seem obvious! I don't ever want to see another midwife with fake nails for example! I had one with huge square things who wanted to give me an internal while I was in labour! Never mind the injury she could do..how can you get them clean underneath! Or the a&e nurse I had a few weeks ago in cycling shorts and the most enourmous dreadlocks piled up on her head but falling down. What happened to nurses being smart,neat and clean? I know everyone wants something that can be tumble dried, but in the old days before we had dishwashers and microwaves we managed to iron our uniform and look smart and competent, never mind clean!

[@nataliemcmillan2605]

Im due to give birth in February and Im completely terrified. My midwife has mentioned the staff shortages as well as the general stress working in the maternity unit and that scares me. Ive already got 2 kids who were born in 2010 and 2012 and I had so much more confidence then despite being just 19 and 21 while pregnant. Ive definitely noticed big changes this time round.

[@lks6248]

Best wishes. I do know people who get decent treatment in the NHS. The difference between them and the rest is that they make demands and don’t just accept the poor service !

[@faatimahbintmuhammad6351]

Have a home birth! 💓 You’re in your home, one-to-one midwife (actually cheaper for the NHS) You can ensure it’s in a clean and comfortable environment unlike the chaotic hospitals.

[@nataliemcmillan2605]

@faatimahbintmuhammad6351 I would actually love a home birth however was also told that I could end up having to come into hospital anyway because of staff shortages. Id hate to spend all that time preparing and buying a pool etc to not even get to use it. Xoxo

[@faduma9842]

​@nataliemcmillan2605 - If you feel more comfortable with a homebirth, pls go ahead with it! Babies are only born once and staff shortages is a problem for them to deal with, not you. Its definitely a more liberating experience to birth at home and less stressful. Sometimes its the stress that leads to a whole host of interventions that you dont want and for many, going into hospital IS the first intervention

[@apebass2215]

Not helpful of your midwife to stress you out like that. Staffing issues should be her concern, not yours.

[@marcoose777]

Every time (in my life) that the Tories have lost power, the NHS has been left in a terrible state. Funding has been cut/diverted, the growing encroachment of private care providers (aka Tory donors), staff are demoralised (therefor dysfunctional). Many many issues. Here's the deal: the Tories are ideologically opposed to any state/national provision (health care, education etc etc). Sadly Wes Streeting is cut from the same mould, look at his backers, the people he talks to... Brits should take a long hard look at US healthcare, because our inept politicians are trying to import that humanitarian disaster to the UK, they can afford the health insurance bills, but ask yourself: can you? Lobby your MP if you want change, let them know what you think they should be doing.

[@Longlostpuss]

The NHS has always been in trouble, please tell me the last time it was in a well managed state, Labour or Tory? Give me the year range.

[@emryspaperart]

i would like to point out that a huge number of americans cannot, in fact, afford their health insurance bills.

[@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts]

Yes! You are absolutely right. Yet people blame the incoming labour because they have to be honest about the mess.. it's the same with all the public services. They were all disbanded. Yet people have been paying their taxes,and now we find that there's an eye-popping hole in the public purse,so where did all the money that kept going in and wasn't spent on the country go?? Not on schools and hospitals, not on the potholed roads, not on social welfare,or prisons, social housing..whobate all the pies?? 🤔

[@marcoose777]

@@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts £700 billion (or £0.7 Trillion) during covid, much of that has ended up in the back pockets of corporations/wealth... It's funny how we never have funding for things we need, only the things party donors want.

[@marcoose777]

@@Longlostpuss Waiting times were whittled down during the Blair/Brown administration... but I suspect you are a part of what I was criticising and will always find fault with what you find ideologically objectionable. Source of facts: BMA -- `nhs-backlog-data-analysis`

[@sillypuppy5940]

NHS is institutionally incapable of making itself function efficiently and compassionately - a shakeup is beyond its powers, and more money is a sticking plaster. Then there's trusted staff who interfere with babies (you know who I mean) - systemic failures such as this are never properly addressed - those who could prevent these tragedies are never held accountable.

[@HerewardtheWake-ri1hy]

The NHS is not just failing in maternity units. I've seen a patient punched full in the face by a nurse and laid out. I've seen an old man deliberately starved of food and water. One old woman soiled the bed and was stripped from the waist down in full view of the ward.

[@SReads-dh4rr]

These are wildy horrendous accusations, going to need more context here as its verging on unbelievable. What hospital? On what occasions? How are you able to witness these different events i.e do you work there? Did you report it?

[@hourbee5535]

There is a clear ethno-racial component to this issue

[@Skygrey2943]

In what way?

[@Lady_Ima2]

​@@Skygrey2943 It is multifactorial, but essentially communication barriers faced by some patients are part of the problem. I have seen first hand people being spoken to differently depending on their background. Some women are patronised and being told what to do, where others are addressed respectfully and given choices. Not to mention well funded vs deprived parts of the country!

[@HerewardtheWake-ri1hy]

I think you will find that the majority of staff failures were down to foreign nurses. My friend works for the NHS on the admin side in Nottingham and told me about the scandal in maternity a few years before it became public. She sees the list of incidents and the names of the nursing staff responsible. She kept saying it was being covered up because the majority of nurses responsible are all foreign There is one doctor who has failed the English test 9 times but is still being allowed to practice. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5uQn3Wch96aaa8

[@Lady_Ima2]

Absolutely, research shows women of colour are disproportionally affected by poor maternal care. And those who can afford private care can obviously choose high quality private maternity services, often inside NHS hospitals (such as a top floor private ward) practically offering 1:1 care. Not to mention the option to employ additional private midwives and doula. Complete 2 tiers system.

[@Madonnalitta1]

​@@Lady_Ima2😂

[@John420ridge]

How this has been allowed to happen is criminal

[@CGEBakes]

So many people who have suffered under the hands of maternity. Aside staffing issues, the nurses can be rude and don't listen to people who complain about problems they are having. More needs to be done, it's terrible.

[@CherryMacc]

I’m now 20weeks and still haven’t seen my midwife. 30/F first time mum in Norfolk. My GP doesn’t deal with anything pregnancy related as they are understaffed. I’ve just been told to call MedCom or go to hospital if I have any concerns. It’s a 45min drive. 😅 expecting in February 2025, I have no clue what to expect. Very anxious.

[@LuciThomasHardylover-qx6ts]

I can't believe that your GP is legally allowed to refuse to 'do anything to do with pregnancy '! It's a condition that can affect up to half the population! Get on Google and find who to speak to in your local health authority about this. You can't be left waiting for an emergency to justify a trip to a&e. But you can get your own blood pressure monitor cheaply. That's a major indicator of any common problems in pregnancy, likewise urine sticks..in pregnancy they look for maternal diabetes. If you're really flush, you can actually employ a private midwife! Or a doula, who's a professional birthing partner,who can advocate for you in the birth and befriend you before. But really... don't worry about it. Most problems arise from the same roots as most health problems. So long as you eat real, nutritious food ( anything you can theoretically make from scratch in your kitchen) and drink,no junk,some gentle exercise and keep calm ❤️ Norfolk is a beautiful county, it's a beautiful time of year and you're carrying your first child 🐣 get out with your baby and have some long country walks and enjoy it all. This is a magical time in your life and in years to come you will tell your child about when they were in your tummy 🥰 So enjoy it! Sing and talk to your baby,if you're happy they're happy and soon they will recognise your voice. Surround yourself with positive people and listen to the old ladies. Enjoy and go well ❤️

[@kamillionaire4054]

Blame Brexit, we were OK before Brexit!

[@r133abdulkarim5]

NHS definitely needs more funding poor kids

[@ayshahawa8005]

Luton and Dunstable maternity department is absolutely amazing!

[@yvonnearyetey8065]

yes me too I lost two -still brith

[@mariarotaru2069]

I gave birth a few months ago at St Helier hospital in London. When I asked questions about my care as I had placenta previa I was cataloged as anxious by my consultant. I didn’t back off though and kept on asking questions. Everything went well with my birth.

[@tanyaadele7142]

Why wasn’t this looked into before Lucy letbys conviction ? Neonatal is very bad too

[@roseanncampbell3168]

No she just liked killing babies then blaming it on the NHS as a cover

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

Neonatal medicine is separate from Obstetrics. It's more a branch of paediatrics.

[@JulietCrowson]

​@@berniethekiwidragon4382but once a baby is born, S/he could go to neonatal care so there are connections between obstetrics and neonatal care and pediatrics ✝️

[@DavidJohnson-dc8lu]

No one should look at a hospital for a place of life look at it as a place of death, workers are too use to and comfortable with death.

[@enlightened9538]

Unfortunately, everything is collapsing worldwide.

[@filteredjc4653]

When my wife had a c-section they gave her morphine for the pain and then later were asking HER when she had last had a dose and how much it was. Someone on morphine has little idea of time let alone how much they have been given. They also didn't keep track of when she had been given ibuprofen, leaving her in agony. I could not believe how poor the management was. Half the staff were treating the job like they were flipping burgers.

[@andi56837ykvk]

We need more people having children and yet we can’t look after the women who are giving birth. During my pregnancy, I did get decent care during the pregnancy but once the contractions started…. Let’s just say my circumstances became items on a checklist. I had 5 days of painful contractions, so painful that the contractions would fall in line with expectations and then immediately fall out. Within 5 days, we visit A&E 3x - the first 2x I wasn’t dilated enough. By day 5 I was finally 5cm dilated but then it went down to 3cm. My waters broke whilst I was in the Labour room but they clearly broke from the top because it didn’t all come out at once. The midwives didn’t believe us at all when we told them, as they could still see waters inside. The details are blurry at this point, but it was only once I finally got the epidural (that was a fight to qualify for this), that Labour could actually start progressing and it did rather quickly. I spent most of the day in the Labour room and by the time my daughter was born, her face was blue and her head was misshapen. I had an extended episiotomy and yet I was expected to breastfeed sitting down - which was notably painful. My discomfort made it harder for her to get comfortable and to latch on. But once again rules rules rules, i had to breastfeed sitting in a chair - I absolutely was not allowed to breastfeed laying down 🙈 We had to stay for a further 1.5 days to make sure my daughter and I were healthy enough to leave but I honestly couldn't leave soon enough. We saw a midwife the next day and she gave (and patiently showed us) guidelines on how to safely breastfeed laying down in the bed. The midwives out-of-hospital were significantly more patient and treated us as individuals, addressing our individual needs. While we did have a few good and kind midwives in the hospital, we also had a few impatient midwives who clearly really tired and worn down.

[@BirAnneGunlugu]

never can get on call with a midwife or get help from midwife.. its so hard gettting on hold to them.. the phone rings but never answered..

[@fabolvaskarika7940]

Even the regulator doesn’t know what to look for 🤯

[@ayeishaperry-smith392]

When my nephew was born, Im 35 now but at the time I was a 15 year old kid. When I walked in the room to meet my nephew, my mum picked him up first and began talking to my nan, in the time it took for that to happen like 2 mins I had already decided in my head that the noise my nephew was making wasnt normal and told my mum, she then held him up to the light so she could see his chest moving and he was actually struggling SO hard to breathe , that when we called for help he was checked and rushed to intensive care straight away where he remained for 2 weeks! The MOST DISGUSTING part of this story is that after he was rushed off, my sister, (his mum) told us that she had mentioned it a few HOURS earlier and the nurse came in and said and I quote "yes thats a funny little noise hes making 😅" and she walked off laughing. Without any reassurance to my sister who was a new mum and had no experience with new borns. The birth itself was absolutely horrendous ans probaby what caused his breathing issues, she wasnt able to push properly throigh the pain so they coerced her into having an epidural which the failed to administer 4 times then left her for a long time to the point he had come all the way down ready to come out but she didnt know becaue she could feel anything ams they werent monitering the situation efficiently, they eventually had to use a ventouse! He's a healthy 21 year old now, so that's how long I KNOW it's been like this. Also, my best friend had a VERY similar birthing experience in a different hospital. And this is years later. I hear stories all the time of friends of friends having horrendous experiences. Royal free in London.

[@Thatperson-kt3mu]

I had severe hyperemesis which they had down on my records diagnosed. Still the nurses treated me like I just need to try to eat more because I got underweight to a size 4 while pregnant. It was my first pregnancy I was young never heard of hyperemesis and I got a blood clot from dehydration. If I had known now and had another child I would definitely push for in hospital care with iv hydration drips. Can you believe! One of the medical staff told me I could abort the child if I can't take the pregnancy instead of offering me all other services like iv drips and proper care. Also the midwife laughed at me when I said my water has broken in an induced labour because she said it doesn't break that quick and wouldn't attend to me then my sister kicked up a fuss and she checked and said oh yeh your right and didn't even apologise I felt so vulnerable and degraded. I feel it was because of my race I was treated like this but I don't hold it to heart because my other midwife post labour was a Godsend. I will never forget her kindness.

[@bluebird4815]

I'm so sorry you experienced this. I too had severe hyperemisis and i honestly do not even want to recount my experience. I felt alone and dismissed throughout. I have PTSD from it.

[@billyeves9358]

In my own experience, every single person in the maternity ward was black on the night my child was born and I had to ask several times for my partner to have gas and air and to be attended to. Not a racist statement at all, just a genuine observation of lack of care.

[@lks6248]

It is not just maternity services affected. I am POA to an elderly lady (never married) who had to go to hospital for a week. Guess who had the job of showering the ladies…..? Yes that’s right, Nigerian male nurse assistants. It is so dismissive of patients dignity It makes me want to puke….

[@Rachael91]

Get on it Labour, no time to waste!

[@ony583]

Does that include the ward that Lucy Letby worked on?

[@phukyphuky10dollar]

Foreign staff have crippled the standards in our hospitals .

[@kindacalled777]

Surprising absolutely no one

[@SuperCraigburton]

NHS killing machine...

[@AlesyaAlexandrova]

I have been having PTSD syyever since I gave birth on the floor TWICE! Because staff refusing to believe me when I say I am in pain and I have a history of fast labour. They keep telling that I am not in labour and I should go home and then act surprised when baby comes out 30 minutes later

[@nikw1611]

NHS NEEDS CHANGED ENTIRELY! England Scotland the entire NHS Enough is enough not just with maternity services but children’s and adults the entire service needs changed. The NHS were accountable for putting my baby’s life on the line countless of times including stealing her oxygen mask away oh not to mention leaving babies to almost fall out of their cots it’s a list of incompetence acts. People too scared to say anything and the second you do they gang up against you they have become a disgrace !

[@TheJack5675]

Nothing shocking to me hearing about how bad the NHS is, that's completely what I expect from both the NHS and our government, both are redundant and need completely disbanding and rebuilding

[@nishapark]

Don’t think nhs trust treatment towards mothers and babies is any difference to Lucy Letby. I’d say they are both equivalent of the same crime here

[@jonjames7328]

Haven’t spent time in a maternity hospital for 14 years. Last time I was there 2/3rds of the expectant mums were African Muslims.

[@Jessica-uv9sp]

Im never having children

[@RobMedvedev]

This is all because there is TOO many people in the country to cope with !!! So why are we not adressing this? You people just stand back and let it happen ! Noone seems to say this

[@Skygrey2943]

No, it's because successive governments have been under funding the NHS, so the service can be degraded enough that people will call for private healthcare. There is also the demographic pressure of a constantly growing cohort of ageing people who use the NHS way more than any other group.

[@roseanncampbell3168]

There isnt too many people in the country, it's due to lack of funding from the previous government

[@compassion333]

So you think too many people are giving birth? The birth rates are well below replacement rate. They can't even deal with that?

[@anonymousanonymous3707]

Correct , and basically the infrastructure of the UK, especially the NHS is not currently capable of handling the dramatic increase in population that has occured over the last 20 years , unfortunately more funding won't help as the current administration will waste it so the only realistic alternative is for it to be sold and become a private company , signalling the end of free healthcare in the UK, sad but necessary. Mass uncontrolled immigration is the absolute route cause of most the UK's problems but that's not politically correct to say so

[@Rachael91]

Already knew this, it's why I'm not going to give birth

[@wiseget]

Life has under Labour

[@ordinarybread]

no. this has been happening for years.

[@user-lo7pe8cj4h]

They just got in 😂 Dion was born under a conservative government

[@Corey_Mckilling]

My sisters due her 1st in November, if the NHS mess anything up.. Those nurses/midwives will need a hospital bed of their own.

[@bear1245]

THIRD WORLD DOCTORS AND NURSES WILL ACCEPT THE LOW PAY 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@ClaraHidalgo-h7h]

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[@Madonnalitta1]

This is what happens when you employ foreign nurses and Dr's who are not up to par. Several could not speak a word of English, I discharged myself 7 hours after I gave birth. Hubby looked after me much better than the hospital did.

[@lks6248]

We train nurses and doctors whose terms and conditions are so below par that they are taking themselves off to other parts of the Anglosphere asap for a better life, while we get those trained in….. africa. Make it make sense!

[@jezzystar9953]

I’ve actually had better care from non English nurses and many women feel the same.

[@Conii-vc8ef]

Project FEAR reboots!

[@Skygrey2943]

Project fear aka project reality.

[@berniethekiwidragon4382]

Why in such a hurry to dismiss the problem?

[@emma647]

Every woman I know with children had a horrendous birth experience, mainly due to the attitude of staff Inc myself,

[@haleemabdurahman5151]

Can't we blame Lucy Letby here too... Find a nurse to convict, not the system.