NHS staffing crisis continues as junior doctors choose to work abroad for better jobs

[@Jay-pg5hw]

Im one of the doctors who left and am currently in the USA which is far less common than Australia. Closer to home and much better working conditions and pay. All we got for serving the NHS was claps how awful trust me I tried and served the nhs for years prior to deciding to leave

[@enishalihoward8119]

Being a doctor in the US is going to get draining too

[@HomemadeBrownies1]

@@enishalihoward8119for quadruple the pay it’s tolerable.

[@aguawassereau3372]

@Jay-pg5hw Belated welcome to our country! I’m American and have lived in a few different states and have noticed some have more foreign doctors than others and am curious as to why that is. But I think it’s good to hire foreign doctors since we have a shortage and will continue to have one until lawmakers hold the stupid AMA to account. I’ve also lived in the UK. My healthcare from my local surgery there was nice, but it’s a total post code lottery. My friend’s was terrible and she had to go private, unfortunately. And it was very difficult to see any sort of specialist there. Both countries have their own issues with their respective systems.

[@HomemadeBrownies1]

@@enishalihoward8119 I’d rather find my job draining for 400k a year than for 60k a year.

[@xx133]

Now spending 30% of the time convincing private insurance that patients need care.

[@rosswilson3374]

Blaming the worker is wrong once again !! Blame our shambles of a government

[@emmajessica46778]

Definitely! Poor guy just wants a better life

[@ryosuke964]

To the young doctors reading this: As a UK-trained medic, leaving the NHS was one of the best decisions I made in my life. Hope that helps❤

[@VTh-f5x]

Oh no. Nhs used to steal trained doctors from Asia. Now australia nicking trained doctors from nhs. 😂😂

[@TomNook.]

And it devastated those countries.

[@adam7802]

@@TomNook. That's the global job market, baby! This is us just getting a taste of our own medicine.

[@fatimateresa19]

The NHS has employed thousands of foreigners nurses because they were left without them after the pandemic.

[@emmajessica46778]

Uk makes it easy for Australia

[@taffyterrier]

Australia can pick and choose and will select highly educated, properly trained doctors which excludes the vast majority of British medics.

[@MarianM-mn]

I I am nhs worker and I can see where is the problem. Hiring poor management where managers are doing f*** all and getting 80-90k per year. Don't know the systems trust using. Doing zero work not stepping up when employees are on AL or off sick. Using staff working 10-12 hrs per day when we have contracts for 40h p/w. Not even having a clue what is going on in their own department. Outsourcing to companies with poor service. Zero customer service. Doing plenty mistakes blaming nhs staff for it. Not hiring the best people for the job because they are not diverse - disgusting. Allowing CE to be celebrities not ruling the trust. Thousands of pounds are wasted. In my trust is probably 200 people like that. Our HR was outsourced because HR manager didn't want to do the job. Better outsourced then work right - getting paid thousands anyway as HR M was a core team stayed in trust. Same with payroll. Service absolutely horrible. That's where the money running away but no one wants to speak up and repair it.

[@MR-dg9sn]

Completely agree But reading some of the comments it's so heartbreaking Then perhaps people of the UK deserve this To be treated this way They continue this way, most doctors will leave, and all they have are Pa's, nurses, and pharmacist trying to do the job of a doctor

[@RearViEwmirror-3]

I know hospitals increased number of beds by 30% with the same amount of staff. saying they want to sweat the resources more. only patients and staff caring for them will suffer more.

[@mattia9141]

Agree. In switzerland it’s the same. I just got fired (Junior doctor) Because i criticized the system

[@daniyalbbd5281]

​@@mattia9141 Switzerland is even worse. My brother in law who is a born swiss citizen, his parents swiss got fired because he raised some issues where the medical norms were being ignored and doctors were asked in writing to ignore some patients and essentially let them die as they didn't see the point in saving all

[@luckycup]

It needs restructuring

[@BenThomas089]

Will be the best decision he has made with regards to work life balance compared to NHS, Australia is like a safe haven for NHS doctors and pay/lifestyle will be markedly better for Dr Tom.

[@pt4005]

Well that’s a lie. I lived in Australia it’s not what everyone thinks it is.

[@BenThomas089]

@@pt4005 Anecdotally the ex NHS workers I have met are far better paid and have better conditions than in the UK especially those working as a GP. However if they moved to a larger city the cost of living/commuting and our poor infrastructure would make it a lot less appealing.

[@James-ht6uw]

Junior doctors are paid peanuts. Don’t blame them for getting out.

[@fatimateresa19]

Nurses are not doing much better

[@taffyterrier]

Junior doctors are overpaid.

[@rubentandy7654]

5 years of university minimum, one of the hardest degrees to get into let alone finish, antisocial hours, exams for over a decade after graduation, insanely competitive training posts, having to move across the country in residency. they should be paid double

[@taffyterrier]

@@rubentandy7654 Anyone of average intelligence can become a doctor in dumbed down Britain since the entry requirements were dumbed down.

[@taffyterrier]

@@rubentandy7654 Anyone of average intelligence can get into medical school since the entry requirements were dumbed down.

[@paulthomas281]

This is next to unbelievable, but sadly believable. The UK is not really a 1st world country. In the most advanced economies, physicians don't move to a ... wait for it ... another country. It is doctors from poorer countries who move to wealthier countries, or countries with better salaries and working conditions and opportunities. I don't think we can put the UK in the same category anymore as France, Germany, Japan, Canada, USA, Australia, and Scandinavia and Singapore.

[@marcdumont2275]

Canada's well on its way. There's a pretty serious shortages of nurses and an abysmal lack of consistency in our training.

[@TheToobNube]

Is it because doctors are leaving? or because they can’t hire enough to manage the demand of a growing/aging population?

[@jeromethy]

@@TheToobNube Poor treatment and compensation for the doctors has convinced doctors to leave. Essentially the problems in 3rd world country health care systems but now in a 1st world country

[@ryan-ci9sl3mt3j]

Tbf plenty of doctors and other professionals from all those rich countries constantly moving to Australia, it's just us in a different category 😅. I prefer the UK though

[@MarionGarner-z1l]

@@TheToobNube Competent health professionals solve problems. Incompetent ones create utter carnage.

[@drwasabie1]

i am a junior doctor in the uk, and will be leaving soon. I am very sorry for the poor patients in this broken system. they deserve better care

[@Xsqber1234]

From the us, I’m a democrat and would be considered left by MAGA republicans (that is his far right they are) however I think y’all should privatize your healthcare system and the government should give subsidies or something.

[@Pius-XI]

Bye 👋 👋

[@silver4831]

Pay back the free education.

[@cup1966wow]

​@@silver4831They don't get free eductIon, they had to pay for their degrees like everyone else and then any on the job training is the same as anyone else.

[@venlafaxinedomperidone8377]

I am shifting abroad soon. Applied for all my documentation, cant stand this country any more

[@emmajessica46778]

How should they fix it? Privatisation?

[@pcndo16]

@@emmajessica46778no just pay doctors in training better.. privatisation in the US cheats patients as they overpay to enrich insurance companies middle men .. in private medicine doctors operate like rouge mechanics..

[@dhruvock271717]

Poor training, day -day harassment, time wastage and no chance of developing true potential is all what NHS stands for.

[@MR-dg9sn]

We went to medical school, worked incredibly hard, and gained a wealth of experience ,paid so much for our training and still pating our debt off , only to see Physician Assistants and nurses attempt to do our jobs. Unfortunately, their decisions often lead to poor management, confusion among patients, and unnecessary suffering and delays. BBC keeps saying there is long waiting list, one of the main reasons of this is the poor, unnecessary referral . It's frustrating to witness the decline of the NHS. We’re funding a national health service that seems unwilling to invest in doctors and specialists, opting instead for a cheaper workforce. Senior nurses have far too much power, managers are often clueless, and there is a lack of respect for doctors. Given these issues, it’s no wonder many of my colleagues are leaving-and good for those who have the option. If I could, I would, too.

[@lensmann100]

Why the NHS doesn't adopt (and enforce) a strict hierarchical rank structure is beyond me. Imagine the services without an established rank structure-total chaos. As to senior nurses, I had one tell me that the chemo I was to have for my cancer would mean I lost all my hair- as a result, I decided to go for a "skinhead" crop only to be told by my consultant at my next appointment, that what the nurse had told me was absolute nonsense. Let's just say, I was less than pleased.

[@Wishing_you_peace]

Same in outsourced healthcare. Fewer doctors and managers won't listen. Very corporate. I don't blame nurses, they have a living to make.

[@flourishorji6681]

Wow! As a young doctors who wanted to practice in the UK,'japa' as they called it,I am glad I am seeing this

[@taffyterrier]

Doctors are overpaid.

[@acreone]

I hate to say this but most junior doctors nowadays do not know what they are doing. Been to my local GP and gave me BS of clinical assessments multiple times. Can’t help but go to private specialists. I was a borderline diabetic and the junior GP told me that my blood sugar must be at least 14mmol before I can get any medical attention. NHS doctors like that want me to get worse before I get the medical attention I direly need. So go to Australia and get the harsh reality that most of junior doctors educated in the UK are not trained enough. Nurses specially from the Philippines know better than these doctors.

[@asif4497]

NHS and whole of the UK should thankful to immigrants to survive in this broken system of NHS but media is busy portraying immigrants as monsters

[@creativity2598]

As a junior doctor I got paid £40k in NHS while in US for same position I am getting paid $300k.

[@planetvegeta6031]

this is not true at all

[@creativity2598]

@planetvegeta6031 what is true

[@planetvegeta6031]

@@creativity2598 junior doctors in aus dont be getting no 300K don't lie to the ppl

[@carlosfigueiredo8193]

I left my medical post in the UK. Managers do nothing positive but rather try to influence medical decisions using other non-medical staff. There is a lot of covert bullying and intimidation if one doesn't fall in with their ideas which seldom are in the patients' best interest

[@MarionGarner-z1l]

NHS is now proactively trying to eliminate it's own patients - blocking access to healthcare, forcing unnecessary medical treatments onto patients, intentional neglect etc.

[@scroggins100]

Living next door to me is a young couple. One is in the RAF and the other just completing her Nurse training. They are to emigrate to Australia next year. Both have "had it" with this country!

[@shadowxdr]

What did he do in the RAF?

[@Jim90117]

I'd leave too, this country seems to not want to discuss the real problems but look for cheaper alternatives. Putting plasters over war wounds will still see the patient die in the long run.

[@nataliemcgreevy9812]

Jetting off into the sun? Way to go sky news making him sound like he's off on his jollies

[@shuaibellahi6361]

I left 9 years ago after PAs were taking training opportunities then, systematic blackmail, paid piss poor peanuts and absolutely devoid if any respect. The UK reaps what it sows

[@lauraspacie5185]

I am a GP registrar. Not planning to leave the country but I will leave the profession and the NHS. Patients deserve better.

[@AdmiralofU2]

I work at a hospital in Australia and wondered why there are a lot of British doctors at work.

[@Marcho978]

P.s. Emirates is recruiting pilots and cabin crew in Dubai, along with a lot of private hospitals who are after doctors and other allied healthcare professionals

[@kish829]

I quit the NHS and came to work in the 3rd world. To my surprise, I dont want to return.

[@kaycampbell364]

which country

[@DhivyaSamuel]

I got offer letter from NHS band 5 nurse and revoked month before my deployment,saying funding crisis. From india.

[@emmajessica46778]

Really? Wow.. that’s crazy.

[@AbsSh4]

I work in the NHS. Years of underfunding by successive governments has led to this. No amount of money will fix this. It will take decades to rebuild. Is it a deliberate tactic so Boris can achieve his dream of privatisation so he can profit from it??

[@quixoticfiend9274]

How about the licensing? Is there direct entry or do they have to clear a screening exam and repeat some of their training?

[@ae7277]

Have to agree, im an IP pharmacist whose moving in the next month, got an offer for a job with more then 3x the wage and less stress from Australia

[@matthewst537]

Doubt New Zealand will have it much better even less staff to help

[@Henrychamber-r8w]

Nhs bullying tactics will be exposed. They cant sweep it under the rug anymore. Name and shame.

[@l.c.3150]

It’s just as bad in Canada. Its seems like all the systems are breaking in all the first world countries from housing to healthcare.

[@Wishing_you_peace]

Hope he gets better working conditions and more support. The NHS has too many managers and lacks leadership. No-one should have to be tough just to go to work. Especially in a career where empathy is needed.

[@Victoria-dk3nv]

Full respect to this young man

[@BotanicalAngel]

Good luck😊 ❤for him

[@owent1166]

It’s the right decision, more people should consider leaving the UK.

[@WingLife-u7k]

Bournemouth hospital doctors , nurses - if people really knew how difficult management is! Many feel like this Doctor

[@MindSetReset]

How sad but the UK needs to invest better😢

[@Icarus47249fd]

Personal happiness is the most important thing in this life, money can’t buy back health nor mental health if it deteriorates. He made a decision in his life that he would not regret, rather in the future to come he would come to thank himself.

[@silver4831]

Money is 99% of life, don't be so ignorant.

[@pt4005]

Good luck in Australia! It’s just as bad and your only getting paid a lot because it costs so much to live over there

[@filipepedro8272]

At least is sunny and not miserable like in England

[@pt4005]

This is true. But I had so many ozzies wishing to trade places with me and go to uk. No one goes outside.. they stay in where it’s cool. Or go to the beach but u can’t do That everyday

[@michaelburke1775]

Cost of living is slightly higher but buying power is higher than UK also. As a junior doctor he will make double what he earns in UK.

[@jamesli8559]

@@pt4005 who says aussies never go outside? That’s funny

[@pt4005]

Well… they don’t unless it’s by the beach. It’s too hot to walk around and they drive everywhere? So…?

[@roythousand13]

This is what universal healthcare looks like, folks!

[@sewwandimendis2068]

Absolute truth

[@henryburton6529]

This is what 15 years of Tories does to a country

[@emmajessica46778]

I went out with a doctor about 10 years ago, he said it was awful then. And described these same issues and he left to go to Australia so we broke up. It’s been like this for a long time. I think they have a lot of excuses but really, we need to look back at when this started..

[@pcndo16]

@@emmajessica46778it’s worse than what it was ..

[@tpraba15]

I worked with NHS many years back. Besides salary not much help from senior consultants when on call. Being from Asean country also verbally abused by some patients calling me black and refuse to allow me to treat them. Anyway I came back to my country immediately after obtaining my fellowship. No regrets and happy.

[@mystrength5640]

A Doctor cannot be fully Trained in 2 or 3 years.. as a Doctors assistant! Ridiculous! Minimum training is at least 7 years! All nurses need to Work back time for the NHS, in leu of Paying to Study! Reason NHS needs to import Nurses!

[@3thinking]

Rich developed nations poach the best. Britain is now 3rd World, so who can blame them?

[@FreeSpeech-q7v]

Diversity is our strength!!

[@slabbygabby]

Ah.. a bot

[@berserkirclaws107]

😂😂😂

[@horus808]

I’m a nurse and moving to Germany. I’m so done with NHS.

[@raheelaali2248]

If a doctor can't do his job. A nurse can't help the vulnerable. A carer can't support properly getting rid of the bad apples. Firstly, create a better understanding to respect is the first change. Responsibility: Secondly, Care with dignity, then treat 1 equally...

[@mjg239]

1:09 He already has grays in his hair... that poor junior doctor is unbelievably stressed.

[@cybertronicgamer9589]

I think they should raise tax aswell once the cost of living has dropped to also create a nhs for animals. We get free health care so why cant domestic animals like dogs and cats, etc

[@Alkeje]

It’s not worth it. It is crazy that Healthcare all over the world is this bad.

[@AnyKeyLady]

Nice place for a Jr Doctor to live? How much is his rent, bills, etc? What was he hoping/ striving for? A private job after his NHS training? Really not portraying the best picture for the NHS poverty workers!

[@newwineskin5494]

To be honest most of this young Dr's are spoilt, sorry but typical British who cannot work as hard as Immigrants. Some are lazy,and except to be paid more.They all joined NHS knowing how busy it was.As they been doing internship while at Uni still.Why didn't they drop out or change courses?.YT privilege at it's best.

[@FrozenSolid131]

It looks like it's his parents house to me 🤷‍♂

[@newwineskin5494]

@@FrozenSolid131 So meaning his even lucky enough to save up.

[@Sten111]

Are Doctors really moving to Australia for mental health reasons rather than the money incentive. Loads of people are doing jobs that strain their mental health. Very little would probably be done if that meme was universally brought out as an excuse.

[@user-ug8wx5er1w]

All of us are suffering from unwanted mass immigration 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@adammorra3813]

Yeah this guy is going to Australia....unwanted immigrant.

[@bpw8139]

@@adammorra3813 As an Australian doctor, I would like to see us training more of our own doctors. I am against foreign doctors coming here. Come on Australia, train our own people.

[@Haabsa22024]

Those foreign UK doctors coming here, taking our jobs

[@Mapqwerry]

People don’t get that British people going overseas do really well.

[@seanolan]

I am a doctor willing to work in the UK, the GMC won’t let me do my exams to prove my worth and serve the people, and there are hundred of people in my situation. Yet the NHS is lacking doctors!

[@GIBBO4182]

We’ll just get more doctors off the boats, right?

[@newwineskin5494]

Yes as they work and do not moan. For starters instead of moaning here, go be one.

[@Stressed_PhD_0831]

Not the boats again. Find another excuse, mate.

[@emmajessica46778]

Governments fault.. this problem has been going on for years, they have had huge chances to fix it.

[@swatisharma9006]

I am glad that they think money alone will not solve the problem because it won’t. Money/tools will only help if supported by proper processes and management. In agile model- multiple priorities are made to look cool adding risks and increased failures.

[@bossman674]

Good luck to the fella, think it’s a great decision

[@raheelaali2248]

U Done the right thing. Listening to God

[@notrealatall196]

His dog is sooooo cute!

[@7415_Gamer]

How did it all end up this way?

[@user-ug8wx5er1w]

Well, in 1997 Labour opened the immigration flood gates

[@AaronDWH]

Because the majority voted for Brexit. 😮 EU countries are probably recruiting your best ones as well.😂🇪🇺

[@Tabazan7]

​@@user-ug8wx5er1wFact, migration hasn't affected the NHS. Stop blaming migration for your country's f@$k ups. To a degree the electorate has bought this upon themselves. Voting strategy leaves a lot to be desired.

[@T5Zplayer]

Firstly Blair giving an amnesty to the illegals, then too many fat and unhealthy lardarses who won't lead a healthy lifestyle.

[@adam7802]

@@AaronDWH The NHS was broken long before brexit.

[@roberttitchener1821]

Dont worry folks the govement will sort it .....

[@fatimateresa19]

They will do what they did with nurses… they will hire people from abroad on more visas program. It’s the way they want it.

[@bjarnetungland4544]

I left 7 years ago (to Norway) and the NHS was a dumpster fire then.

[@Julie-hf4ch]

he is so young, smart and handsome. wishing Tom the best of luck in his career. 🙏

[@terribrad24]

Australia? That's like a no brainer, honestly

[@angelinamincher7406]

I thought Kier Starmer gave them a pay rise?

[@kamus2478]

The malaise is deeper. I have had "junior doctors" ( what a cheap expression to cut a professional to size !) from the UK, come to the USA who actually restarted med school . Also worked with Senior Attendings with fellowship training and even PhDs from the UK who were doing residency training all over again in the states. It was surprising to see 3rd world problems being faced by citizens and doctors from a developed country.

[@AdamAli516]

A sad state of affairs 😢

[@mu5797]

I would have run if I was called to a deteriorating patient rather than walking so casually and filming the casual walks

[@oxfordlureangler9592]

Immigration adding stress to NHS. Good luck bud don't blame ya. I want out of this crappy country aswel

[@chedz3409]

austerity was what done it

[@matthewlo55]

immigrants replace the doctors

[@robotnitchka]

Why are doctors not going on strike?

[@markprothero2666]

This is serious. This country is circling the drain. We willingly shell out money on total bullshit instead of basic needs. These are the consequences. I’m considering doing the same, while I can. While I still have something to loose. Before the government comes for it when they get truly desperate.

[@Dark_Embracer]

I don't want to work in Caring jobs, or in the NHS or Funeral jobs. Why do they keep on blocking me from doing office jobs? So what if office jobs don't have body movement in the job just because they want body movement in a job. We don't live in a Orwellian state where we are told what job we should do it's a free society a free job market where people choose what job they want to do not being dictated on what job they should do. Not everyone will like working in Caring jobs, in the NHS or Funeral jobs.

[@cruelladevil1001]

Weak. Welcome to socialized Healthcare

[@barneymagee3285]

He is easily replaced with all the doctors arriving daily on our beaches…

[@rumit9946]

That’s true plenty of doctors from Sri Lanka and Bangladesh waiting to escape their countries will gladly take up jobs in the NHS 😂, it’s all relative

[@cricri-cp7im]

doctors and lawyers with no criminal records

[@ruthe6017]

Lol, when junior doctors were going on strike raising the issues and saying that they would do this, people said go, so they did.

[@taffyterrier]

They have nowhere else to go.

[@OldProGolf]

As an elderly, ill and disabled man, I struggle to get NHS treatment, when I do it is inadequate, bordering incompetent. Now, having contributed to this young man's £250,000 education, he won't be helping me, he is taking his expensive education to earn big bucks elsewhere. I quite understand why but is anyone prepared to stay here and sort this NHS mess out? I am going down the DIY route, Dr Google and I have diagnosed 5 conditions, all proven, all denied by NHS "doctors". Unfortunately, surgery is beyond me though I might have a stab at it.

[@hugostevenson7158]

I'm a medical student in the UK right now - please avoid diagnosing yourself on Google it's very inaccurate and blatantly dangerous. Sorry to hear your experince of NHS.

[@jonbonjesus1224]

2 months I've been waiting to see a doctor. They have been given an impossible job.

[@JDk22]

I do understand your situation, buddy.. as a young specialist doctor n guyana 🇬🇾 the ministry of health is crap. Crappy 💩 working conditions and salary. Doctors are paid between $2500 to 3000 US dollars a month.

[@FXT130]

Free service always end like this.

[@suukinsin6771]

When doctors dont want to sacrifice for patients Me a doctor too in asia past 15 years😢

[@rohinir7769]

God save THE KING (not NHS)

[@yoemeuunitoful]

Informed consent model

[@rose29599]

a balanced life is the latest trend post covid.. doctors also deserves it.. 🤓

[@emmajessica46778]

It’s all good until his parents need Uk hospital care.. I’m happy for him, but one day it will affect him.

[@chezzachezza7325]

Come to Oz we love our English cuzzos

[@hazelmiller417]

hmmm so bugger off after training in the uk

[@LawrenceAgbor-t1d]

😂😂

[@emmajessica46778]

Why should he stay? We would all do the same

[@taffyterrier]

@@emmajessica46778 He should pay back the full cost of his taxpayer funded “tuition” and “training”.

[@user-ce3ip5lx9t]

With all these "new citizens" negatively contributing to the social system budgets in each European country, how do want magic to operate exactly?

[@WingLife-u7k]

Yup

[@eddiebaby22]

Whats wrong with 120k a year, take the money and run.

[@totalcontrol871]

Sorry but I'm not seeing a so-called "overwhelmed" doctor here. He's literally taking his time sauntering down an empty hallway. Then has the nerve to exhale when he gets onto the elevator as if he's just done some monumental physical task. GenZ's low energy apathy will doom us all.

[@Pius-XI]

He'll be back

[@taffyterrier]

… when he is sacked.

[@cianog]

Why are we paying to train these people when they leave after less than a yr.

[@taffyterrier]

They should be forced to pay it back.

[@piaraismacmurchaidh4712]

@@taffyterrier They do. They repay their student loans, just like other university graduates do.

[@Jane-ms9ky]

He's free to choose where and what to do. Shouldn't be blamed NHS for it ...

[@taffyterrier]

Only after he has paid back his debt to society.

[@OmegaPadiong-v7e]

Craig Trail

[@lensmann100]

Why are junior doctors not obliged to serve (say) a minimum of 10 years with the NHS following qualification?

[@VTh-f5x]

Because nhs steals doctors from around the world like this.

[@zozokon1]

University isn't free. I left with 100k of debt so what exactly is the obligation I should have....

[@SyG21]

Because that's indentured servitude and it was made illegal 250 years ago 😂😂🤡

[@taffyterrier]

@@SyG21It is standard practice in the private sector.

[@taffyterrier]

@@zozokon1 The other 550k.

[@k12rmy]

Doctors are leaving the UK in their floods. UAE and Australia are flooded with British doctors.

[@taffyterrier]

UAE and Australia can pick and choose and will select highly educated, properly trained doctors which excludes the vast majority of British medics.

[@k12rmy]

@@taffyterrier two of my cousins are British doctors. Both have practices in Australia. I know more that intend to leave. I don't blame them one bit.

[@taffyterrier]

@@k12rmy Assuming they are offered a job will they be paying back the cost of their taxpayer funded tuition and training?

[@k12rmy]

@@taffyterrier depends on whether they were privately educated or state school. My cousin's were privately educated so they don't owe anyone a dime. Tuition fees were paid by themselves. These doctors/dentists and any other person wanting to leave don't owe anyone anything.

[@taffyterrier]

@@k12rmy As they only have to pay around 20% of their tuition fees they still owe the taxpayer the other 80%.

[@Meowsofat]

Then when a Khan comes and be doctors far right will protest 😂

[@DF-nm9fq]

make it mandatory that they have to give back time in the nhs for the training

[@matenind]

🙄🙄🙄 their training isn’t free

[@darrencornish4433]

And the uk should pay back the fees of their 37% foreign trained doctor staff. Make it fair - something about goose and gander?

[@couponsteve]

Forcing people to work is a poor way build retention

[@taffyterrier]

@@matenind The state pays for it.

[@couponsteve]

@@taffyterrierso don’t make the system better. Just force unhappy medical staff to work until their debt is paid.

[@therealgirl83]

Then I guess it’s a better deal to ship in doctors from Nigeria, Pakistan and India. 😂

[@gloriamwamba7603]

Even them, they come in for a year or two and then leave for better salary