Nicholas Throckmorton: Treason Trial Survivor

[@QueenIsabella18]

Poor bastard. 😆 He had the misfortune of dealing with not one, not two, not even three, but FOUR Tudor rulers. The fact that he survived as long as he did was a bloody miracle indeed.

[@BeerElf66]

Especially considering his diplomatic skills as well. What a survivor!

[@jetblackjoy]

There was a guy who lived at their court to his 90s. It was thought mad even at the time 😅

[@theodosiasnudpuckle7372]

I am descended from the Throckmortons and if he's anything like my family he was guilty.❤

[@lauraamundson769]

I'm a Throckmorton descendant too. These people were involved in everything!

[@BeeKool__113]

They are certainly involved in a lot. I have seen the name pop up many times. Very interesting.

[@Rose-jz6ix]

Just depends. My husband's family goes back to the Dr Vere son who was banished to Scotland. His father & brother were slimey game playing people who earned, then lost land, titles etc from English Kings. You three may have all the good genes even if it missed some of your family.

[@Rose-jz6ix]

De Vere

[@trojanette8345]

Gee, that's harsh. However, you are to be commended for your honesty.

[@prettypic444]

Nicholas Throckmorton: I may have committed some light treason...

[@carole6779]

⚖ Definitely interesting... I'm inclined to think Sir Nicholas was mostly a "wrong place, wrong time" kind of guy. 👑 But considering the political rollercoaster he was riding, it seems that any "right place, right time" benefits would have been fleeting at best. 🧑‍⚖ Thanks again for another fascinating video, Dr. Kat! 😊

[@isaac___raymond]

Thank you for this video, Nicholas Throckmorton is my 13th great-grandfather so it was fascinating to learn more! If you haven’t visited his grave in the City of London I highly recommend it, it’s spectacular!

[@kimberlyperrotis8962]

Throckmorton is a frequent toponym in a nearby town (Mill Valley) here in Marin County, California, the county where Drake was the first European to land on the West Coast of the US. I always wondered if it could be from the name of a passenger or crew member on that ship, but haven’t been able to find out. Most likely it was from another Throckmorton who settled here early in Mill Valley’s initial development as a lumber town, it’s where the first mill was. It’s not a very common name, especially here in the US. The most important toponym here is Sir Francis Drake, tons of places are named after him, including a High School, a highway, etc., it’s so common we just say SFD. We have a beautiful beach and bay named after him, near his landing site, with a small museum. English history is such a big part of our history, even on the West Coast, first settled by the Spanish (after the natives, of course).

[@margo3367]

I lived in Mill Valley years ago. I remember biking to Sausalito with my children on the bike path that ran alongside the marshes. It was idyllic. But, I didn’t know all the history. Thank you for that.

[@amykortuem5554]

I didn’t know anything about about Nicholas Throckmorton, only his daughter Bess. So interesting - I have discovered that I am one of those people who assume that treason = execution in this era. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge in such a wonderful way.

[@julzy3]

I don't know, he did keep his head attached to his shoulders. I would say he navigated the treacherous seas of Tudor politics rather well despite having questionable diplomatic skills. He may be the poster boy for the proverb: It's not what you know but who! Thank you for your excellent content.👨‍⚖⚖

[@dawnmuse6481]

Thank you for giving us the benefit of your gift for making history one nail-biting adventure after another. An aside that struck me from the poem of Nickolas’ life with Henry Fitzroy was that he appeared to be Henry’s whipping boy. Did I catch that correctly?🏛️💼👩‍⚖️

[@ProudKansan08]

Sounded it like that to me. Never did like that Fitzroy bastard. If I believe the stories, he was rude at Anne Boleyn’s execution. Khama got him quite early in the end😉.

[@gertsgarden]

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[@jetblackjoy]

More about Tudor survivors, please! 🏆 It would be nice to hear your commentary on these fortunate people

[@Angela-en6oh]

Thank you for this interesting look at Throckmorton’s life and career. Regardless of whether he was or wasn’t a traitor, he certainly was a survivor. 🙂

[@ProudKansan08]

If you taught at a university or college I went to, I would enroll in all the classes you taught. PROVIDED I could get in. Pretty sure you’d be so popular, your classes would be full right away.

[@jasperhorace7147]

Thank you Kat, very interesting. I wonder how much jealously played a part in Throckmorton’s troubles. A successful fourth son, obviously eloquent and intelligent and if his portrait is anything to go by good looking as well. He must have caught the attention of many who felt themselves more deserving and would have been happy to see him out of the way. Just a theory but survival and success in that nest of vipers, Tudor courts seems fraught with dangers.

[@jasperhorace7147]

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[@kidmohair8151]

I think the marital combination of the Tudors and the Yorks gave rise to a particularly fractious and occaisionally murderous clutch of monarchs.

[@kaybrown4010]

Throckmorton was probably a bit slippery, but he did end up slipping through the hands of his enemies. Very interesting video, Dr. Kat! ⚖️🗞️😺

[@ileanaacacostaacosta1813]

This man has no loyalty to anyone really and his daughter was a copy of the father love or not Throckmortons were not good

[@lindanosek2066]

Learning about history is a good thing.📜Thanks for wading through all the undecipherable texts for us. You are amazing!

[@Myke_OBrien]

Brilliant, as always!

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[@grievousangelic]

I strongly suspect the public response had some influence on the jury. I also suspect Throckmorton's defense concerning the Spaniards, saying it wasn't treason to gripe about the Spanish may be what turned the tide. They probably felt the same way he did about Mary marrying Philip of Spain.

[@veesimmons2464]

👑 Oh, the drama! Lucky man, that Nicholas.

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[@ReadingthePast]

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[@lisahiland4855]

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[@happygrandma5637]

📜In the early days of television in the US there was a show (probably live) called 'And you were there'. I don't remember many of them as I was quite young, but I do recall an episode that took place in the forum of Rome with Caeser being stabbed on the Ides of March. The trial of Nicholas Throckmorton would have made a great episode. 🏛 Am certainly glad I didn't live in those times. From yeoman to middle class to aristocracy times were tough. Thanks Dr Kat for another enlivening chapter of history.

[@karensilvera6694]

I remember that too. Walter Cronkite was the presenter. I loved that show. I think I love Dr Kay's presentations just as much or more.

[@arcola44]

Another excellent video. Love the delivery! Would not have had much interest in Nicholas Throckmorton, but your narration was just captivating. Had not made the connection with Bess Throckmorton and her bag! The acquittal seems to fit a pattern. It seems like Mary was so overconfident, that she missed a growing undercurrent of dissatisfaction with her rule. Gardiner was sure he could get Wyatt to implicate Elizabeth, but then Gardiner reneged on the deal and Wyatt exonerated Elizabeth from the scaffold. The judges at Throckmorton's trial knew they would get a conviction, but the jury wouldn't play along. The jury had to know there would be severe consequences, but they did it anyway. That acquittal and the celebrations in London are acts of defiance. It probably indicates that resistance to Mary's rule is building. Maybe it was the marriage to Phillip, maybe it was her bitter pursuit of reformers. And she didn't learn. A few years later when Cranmer was dragged up and down the country on a Mea Culpa apology tour, did they really think he wouldn't recant what he said once he figured out he was going to be burned anyway! Thanks again. You always give us a lot to think about. 🔥🏛🎆🪓

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[@gwynwellliver4489]

I kept thinking of the Queen song title, "Keep Yourself Alive". 😂

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[@alscottieh]

Thanks so much-learning about courtiers like Throckmorton adds so much nuance!

[@Vickiib]

I found this video very interesting. I've heard of Throckmorton, but never learned much about him. Thank you for all your work in making these videos! 🥰

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Anoter slam dunk of a video! You never fail to make history come alive!

[@sarab6410]

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[@maryloumawson6006]

It's always hard for me to imagine why anyone would want to be at court in almost any capacity. it really seems like a significant risk of getting on the wrong side of the monarch, or other powerful figure and losing your head, or freedom. Especially at the Tudor court. I realize the opportunities for occupation for the nobility were limited, but to send one's child into the lion's den, hoping to advance the family fortune, well, it just seems greedy and heartless. Of course the opportunity to quickly rise in fortune was there, but it seems one might topple just as quickly - and fall much further!

[@susannaheanes]

Completely fascinating. Thank you for yet another insightful history lesson!

[@beverleightodd5710]

Kat, just been watching "Who do you think you are" the latest episode is on Andrew Lloyd Webber and he is descended from KATHERINE WILLOUGHBY, the widow of the Duke of Suffolk.

[@AtticHaunt321]

⚖️ Always educational and entertaining, and this is no exception.

[@maryarigho5868]

Any relation to the Throckmortons of Coughton Court, Warwickshire? They were devout Catholics and, later, indirectly involved in the Gunpowder Plot.📜Actually, just looked it up. He was.

[@misskitty2710]

I think Sir Nicholas was just a noble working stiff, doing his best to get ahead since he wasn’t going to come into any of the family land! How hard it must have been to « fit in » with all the successive monarchs and their demands about religious affiliation! My hat is off to Throckmorton.🇬🇧

[@irishis3]

Wow! Jury service was a fraught enterprise 😮

[@JAscat88]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻Found this presentation very interesting. Thank you.

[@cathyagain5841]

I think he must of had the proper connections as guilty/innocent doesn't seem to matter. Thank you for another fascinating video

[@pernillevilhelmsen5664]

🏰👗A castle and a beautiful dress for the royal court - hope you like it ☺ great video as always

[@ElliotOracle]

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[@VianneWamann]

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[@Elise-jz7nm]

I think he was a bit of a player. His family were extremely Catholic - I’m descended from his brother Robert. Henry VIII heaped favours upon them including administration of abbeys, lands, properties. They were ancestors of the Gunpowder plotters. As a 4th son Nicholas had to be Wiley to ascend within Tudor society. I’ll be back in Warwick in January to access more Throckmorton papers. ♠️

[@janicegierhart7778]

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[@johnmclaughlin4817]

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[@scottish48]

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[@jantoms6332]

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[@madelinevanderbunny607]

Thanks!

[@ReadingthePast]

Thank you again, you are very kind!

[@deborahduthie4519]

Courtiers were accustomed to drawing information of all goings on within range of everything said, done and speculated. Throckmorton wouldn’t be effective if he didn’t know everything. Clever not in the dark.

[@BlackCatMargie]

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[@nyckolaus]

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Really informative and entertaining - as always (The emonji sort of looks like Cookie Monster receiving good news in a trial! OK...I'll get my coat...)

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[@lw12045]

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[@archeanna1425]

I would love to see Christian Bale in the role of Throckmorton. Or Benedict Cumberbatch. But what do you think? Can't get enough history at the movies!!

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[@justme-tj3jt]

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[@ericbedenbaugh7085]

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[@aliceballagh304]

"We serve at the pleasure of the majesty." Fortunately, for Nicholas his ability to respond positively allowed him to survive. Regarding Dawnmuse Muse, it sounds like Nicholas was Fitzroy's whipping boy. Is there a possible video reviewing Fitzroy's disposition and his behaviour towards others? Just a thought.