Gon be real, as a Christian, i dont personally like the man. He is too boastful and proud, too in your face, too loud of the speck in his brothers eye. Now, this is just my opinion. But i dint like the man, and i dont think hes a good christian.
@tristankennedy96734 жыл бұрын
@@ProTobigen I'm not religious so my opinion may not matter, but I agree with you completely. Kanye is smart, he understands acting this way is an easy path to compassion from Christians and religious folks alike. If he's preaching this stuff 5-10 years down the line I'll believe his devote love of Jesus, until then he's just slimy weasel looking for ways to make money.
@mxkhxi4 жыл бұрын
Tristan Kennedy do you genuinely think kanye went to gospel and christian music to make money?? literally a bad financial decision for him.
@raine46654 жыл бұрын
Tristan Kennedy I don’t think it’s directly for the money, he definitely is semi serious abt the Christian thing because he made a whole album about it. However I also think it is a publicity stunt and he is trying to maintain his fame. Said fame also brings money but I don’t think it’s only about the money
@mrshamf34844 жыл бұрын
@@ProTobigen kanye thinks he's black jesus, lol
@ronstoppable56594 жыл бұрын
Let’s Agree: If Nick Cave was a music critic, he would’ve given MBDTF a 10
@brother56714 жыл бұрын
Bring Back Kim Possible, Animated Obviously like it rightfully should
@ButHeIsNotYourSavior4 жыл бұрын
@@brother5671 nah
@genesisosuna4 жыл бұрын
lol of course no debate
@AliKandirr4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree! They should bring back Kim Possible!
@ToLWaM4 жыл бұрын
were*
@scottdaniels75344 жыл бұрын
The title in my notification was cut off at "Nick Cave calls Kanye the..." and I got really worried
@blackenedizzycore4 жыл бұрын
n w o r d
@dr.aisaitl74394 жыл бұрын
He did say the N word in Saint Huck but if anybody sees that as an admission of racism they are dumb
@templesupply17904 жыл бұрын
Only Melon openly calls Kanye the n word.
@onthewattle4 жыл бұрын
Dr. Aisaitl and Huck senses something’s wrong.
@JohnSmith-xm3bp4 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna say the N-word.
@GlinkBetweenWorlds4 жыл бұрын
He right
@harold68393 жыл бұрын
1st reply lmfaoo
@lordlobzter15103 жыл бұрын
@@harold6839 You were the last reply too lol (except for me)
@Kylirr4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm so early that the comments are actually relevant to the video.
@travis_redfern67714 жыл бұрын
Kylirr Real talk 😂
@alexandersaiko4 жыл бұрын
They're not relevant because you're early, but they're relevant because most people passionately agree with Nick's assertion.
@t.c.bramblett6174 жыл бұрын
lol I was thinking that too
@fourskinman24634 жыл бұрын
NTA - your hands your rules
@dawsonhicks59294 жыл бұрын
Early comments typically are less relevant because they haven’t even had time to watch the video. They’re just commenting memes. Like you
@pete2neat4 жыл бұрын
I think this is an amazing quote from Cave. if anyone out there is a musician / artist you know that singular vision that you have. Kanye never compromises his vision and you have to respect that. As you said, Kanye could write generic pop songs and chart all the time but his respect to his craft makes him a musical risk taker and icon
@Kenzoah4 жыл бұрын
Just cuz you say I have to respect it doesn’t mean I do lmao he makes generic pop songs as well as other big name rappers, I feel like we give Kanye an insane amount of credit based on past music tbh bc TLOP and up is pretty mild besides a few hits
@BATTOUSAIBEATS4 жыл бұрын
@@Kenzoah you're wrong about TLOP. it's okay you'll realize one day how incredible it is.
@jacoblumpkin29304 жыл бұрын
@@BATTOUSAIBEATS Never understood the TLOP hate, its sooooo good
@Kenzoah4 жыл бұрын
BATTOUSAI BEATS well let’s not say I’m wrong lmaooo I have my Opinion and you have yours
@Phamous1ne4 жыл бұрын
TLOP is amazing lol. But, as op said he really does focus on a vision and executes. Yeezus, 808 & Heartbreaks etc. He’s a great artist. Best pod out kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpXFn4eurs2CnsU
@aarondavis46284 жыл бұрын
The thing I enjoy about Kanye is that his entire discography is kinda like a “journey”. He’s always changing, both musically and as an individual, so being able to watch his progression as both is pretty cool.
@97EDUB4 жыл бұрын
Journey is not about the destination, it’s about the journey itself.
@caracasaltavista4 жыл бұрын
Yep..... until he married the Kardashians and it has gone all down hill from there
@cheesecakelasagna4 жыл бұрын
caracasaltavista nah, yeezus, tlop and ye (+ ksg) is quality.
@gongandfriends4 жыл бұрын
Like Bob Dylan's discography
@davidsalazar8634 жыл бұрын
Thats why people like MBDTF so much, because it completed a heros journey. That was his triumphant return from a dark place. With Daytona, Kids See Ghosts, and Ye he was recuperating and reviving from another low point Yeezus and Life of Pablo. Now he's crossing a new threshold as a Christian. Its all Good Mythology
@dadjeans16554 жыл бұрын
I mean it's hard to disagree, he has one of the most iconic and difficult discographies to rank and every album release is like an event. Fantano even did 2 redux reviews on him despite not doing it for anyone else. He's praised by the normies and music nerds. Great is subjective obviously but it's hard to name another artist like him this century really, maybe Kendrick comes closer than most.
@oozy13334 жыл бұрын
He did a endless redux aswell dude
@sherlokxx10364 жыл бұрын
Kanye said eminem is the best artist
@themaster96014 жыл бұрын
Sherlok Xx lol no.
@lenny40394 жыл бұрын
@@sherlokxx1036 HAHAHAHAHAHA no.
@robot29714 жыл бұрын
Sherlok Xx maybe before revival lmfao
@tim0thy2224 жыл бұрын
It's so great to see artists who have been around forever like Nick Cave recognize the value of artists who came later like Kanye instead of just being an old head and saying music used to be better
@kiruakiller34 жыл бұрын
I'm really feeling it. So many of my other favorite artists talk highly of Ye, Lou Reed, David Lynch and now Nick Cave. The range of artists that have shown him love and the number of times I've seen an artist I love mention Kanye as a big influence is amazing. Brutalism by Idles being inspired by Yeezus was a recent one for me too.
@thomasnelson57582 жыл бұрын
@@kiruakiller3 Bruce Springsteen said he was enthralled with Kanye's live performance of Blood on the Leaves on Later with Jools Holland in 2013. Years after it happened, Bono wrote that he was in the audience of Kanye's Black Skinhead live debut on SNL (also in 2013) and was mesmerized, and called it one of his favorite live performances ever. Author Bret Easton Ellis invited Kanye on his podcast to discuss Yeezus and his ideas around the time it was released as both had mutual fascination with each other's work, and as you mentioned Lou Reed famously raved about Yeezus, and David Lynch wanted to direct a video for Blood on the Leaves. And this is all acclaim from older musicians for a single album alone. And that too so incredibly jarring and not an easy listen either. Something that most old people would probably put on and think it doesn't even sound like music. Now consider all the musicians who have praised him for other albums and general career and you have a laundry list of musicians who have been in the industry for decades and appreciate Kanye's art. It's amazing how many older musicians respect Kanye (and hilarious in juxtaposition to their fans who are so dismissive of him).
@asap3144 жыл бұрын
Kanye’s got at least three classic albums if not more in his discography. He’s definitely one of the most influential of our time so I can definitely see why people say he’s the best of our age.
@dibs0equiped4 жыл бұрын
At least 6 classics dont get it confused
@twxvybeatz57964 жыл бұрын
He’s got 4 classics (CD,LR,GRAD,MBDTF) 5 if we’re counting KSG 3 REALLY great albums (808s,Yeezus,TLOP)
@asap3144 жыл бұрын
Tay Wavy I... AGREE
@asap3144 жыл бұрын
dibs0equiped fair enough
@crasherbasher80674 жыл бұрын
Tay Wavy Graduation is not a classic Switch 808s with graduation
@Ender131234 жыл бұрын
I know I'm the most influential That TIME cover was just confirmation This generation's closest thing to Einstein So don't worry about me, I'm fine I can see a thousand years from now in real life Skate on the paradigm and shift it when I feel like Kanye -- Saint Pablo
@OmarHassan-xk2ip4 жыл бұрын
Ender13123 one of my favourite verses of all time
@Cornincarnate4 жыл бұрын
Ender13123 the Einstein bar ruins an otherwise amazing verse. Einstein’s legacy is so far from what a musician could create. Not necessarily any better or worse but so different there’s no point in comparing the two. Just a silly cocky line in the middle of a fantastic verse that is otherwise very tasteful in its absurd cockiness.
@onedeadpixel104 жыл бұрын
@@drewp.weiner5708 I actually love that about him, *in the music*. I think it's a part of what makes it great. Outside of the music though, it gets pretty cringeworthy. Compare yourself to Einsein in a song if you want. Don't call yourself Walt Disney in an interview.
@chrisnaranjo4394 жыл бұрын
Omar Hassan ya looking at the night sky wondering if God’s gonna say hi
@Raul-ku8fb4 жыл бұрын
@@drewp.weiner5708 I can understand where his god complex comes from and I enjoy it in a way. Him being bipolar and having his manic-depressing moments might fuel his willingness to being cocky as a way to cover his insecurities. Or at least that was the vibe I got from Ye. Plus, Kanye wouldn't be Kanye if it wasn't for his obnoxiousness
@luis75354 жыл бұрын
Nick Cave confirmed 🌊🌊🌊
@Boswellboxer4 жыл бұрын
Wavy baby
@user-zu6ts5fb6g4 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain the wave emoji, i dont get it.
@user-zu6ts5fb6g4 жыл бұрын
@@sillyandlittle i c ty
@glof25534 жыл бұрын
Kanye’s particularly interesting because he kind of blurs the lines between “art” and “artist,” and not just in a performance artist kind of way (at least, not at all primarily). His allegiance is solely with his art, not the fans or fame, but the art, and because of that allegiance, he is willing to offer himself as a sacrifice for the good of his art. His art exposes the weird duality of narcissism and sacrifice, which explains the continuous implicit and explicit Christian themes within his work. And to see sacrifice and narcissism as some sort of duality that belongs together is kind of, well... mad. It doesn’t really flow off the tongue well or resonate in the mind well. The only time sacrifice and narcissism are seen together is when one is disguised somehow (meaning only one, not both, are present). But Kanye combines both in a way so crazy as to make it work.
@lonewalkerproductions4 жыл бұрын
I mean, is that even a question anymore? This man has stayed decades ahead of the curve for years on years now. He's been a standout, in and outside of genres, reminiscent of greats like MJ. He's doesn't make the music we want, but the music we need
@zap1924 жыл бұрын
It's arguable that Kanye is the best of the 21st century so far, and I've made that argument before. But I did NOT need Jesus Is King.
@timetravelingoldman68394 жыл бұрын
Lol
@younggeezerrr31564 жыл бұрын
The new project was ass but Kanye imo is a top 3 artist of all time
@-kdot-23324 жыл бұрын
Nah Kendrick is better
@Jmp1534 жыл бұрын
If he’s the best humanity can produce we are in a sad sad state His lyrics are so cringe His production isn’t that amazing come on
@mt-kx9hl4 жыл бұрын
GOATs recognizing GOATs
@AmandaFromWisconsin4 жыл бұрын
Forever.
@DTheAustralian3 жыл бұрын
GOATS SEE GOATS
@DunkeysLongLostSon4 жыл бұрын
Just look at On Sight. That explains everything. Kanye doesn't give us what we want, but what we need.
J Dilla , Steve Jobs, Da vinci, Shakespeare, Quincy Jones, Picasso, Raphael , Paco de Lucía, Jimmy Hendrix
@ilovecody75144 жыл бұрын
If Nick Cave says it it has to be true.
@user-zu6ts5fb6g4 жыл бұрын
I hate people who think this way. Stop it.
@travis_redfern67714 жыл бұрын
True to him at least. That’s all that really matters
@diegoramongonzalezmorales80574 жыл бұрын
@@user-zu6ts5fb6g issa joke
@user-zu6ts5fb6g4 жыл бұрын
@@diegoramongonzalezmorales8057 Not necessarily. Thats why i just said it without @ at someone.
@8bitDude04 жыл бұрын
@@user-zu6ts5fb6g i take everything nick cave says as gospel sorry
@1thoughtfantasy594 жыл бұрын
He ain’t lying
@crasherbasher80674 жыл бұрын
1thought Fantasy Yeezus is a decent album Pablo is decent Kanye stans act like that shit is amazing
@1thoughtfantasy594 жыл бұрын
CRASHER BASHER if Kanye has 2 “decent” albums in his discography, and at least 3 classics, then there is a definitely an argument for him being the best artist of our time
@crasherbasher80674 жыл бұрын
1thought Fantasy I’m not denying Kanye is a goat I’d say he’s got 4 classics but niggas act like everything he puts out is gold Yeezus and pablo are examples of that
@mxkhxi4 жыл бұрын
CRASHER BASHER bro is this 2015?? yeezus is fucking amazing. i don't wanna say what the old heads say but go listen to it again with the context of what kanye was going through at the time.
@crasherbasher80674 жыл бұрын
mxkhxi What was he going through The nigga interrupted Taylor swift and all of us a sudden he’s as emotional as Drake gtfoh you stan
@SIWeezy4 жыл бұрын
I mean, is he wrong though? Every Kanye album feels completely different than the other, he has influenced so many artist. He even won album of the decade by multiple musical websites.
@NickYankee954 жыл бұрын
Yes... He is, Kanye hasn't even made one really good album
@lukerandall90184 жыл бұрын
JaysLiveinElmira please never participate in speaking ever again
@tobiasmoodias48554 жыл бұрын
Oh well if "multiple musical websites" gave him an album of the decade then how can you debate his status of being the "greatest artist of our time"? You simply can't!
@tinxh4 жыл бұрын
@@NickYankee95 808s & heartbreak, mbdtf, yeezus, should i go on?
@tralx52684 жыл бұрын
Yes and his last album..sometimes you have to make mistakes for progression. Yahndi was still cool though.
@breakingpoint2524 жыл бұрын
He’s right.
@Drugaddict224 жыл бұрын
He is on crack.
@breakingpoint2524 жыл бұрын
George Adept I don’t give a fuck.
@updod884 жыл бұрын
I do agree though. Whether Fantano likes it or not, almost all Kanye albums are either considered classics & masterpieces, or cult classics. The only album that may be none is Jesus is King imo.
@thecalz0ne4 жыл бұрын
Up Dod I think Jesus is king is great
@updod884 жыл бұрын
@@thecalz0ne Exactly, even that can become a cult classic in the future.
@updod884 жыл бұрын
@Dooky nah
@crasherbasher80674 жыл бұрын
Up Dod Clearly in denial
@updod884 жыл бұрын
@@crasherbasher8067 from what?
@femlin19944 жыл бұрын
Love him or hate him, Kanye is one of our greatest artists. This doesn’t mean his work is always “good,” but it always generates interest and controversy.
@GormlessHorse4 жыл бұрын
I like Kanye but that does not constitute being the greatest of all time. If generating controversy constitutes greatness, 6ix9ine would be recognised as a genius.
@Jmp1534 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised people are g claiming that I mean I’ve seen lil Wayne called a genius in rolling stone lol
@Murmurrr4 жыл бұрын
@@GormlessHorse I think he meant that Kanye is very polarizing, which can be interesting, and controversial.
@stagnantlasagna4 жыл бұрын
"This doesn't mean his work is always good" Name 1 thing Kanye has ever released or been a part of musically that hasn't been good. Literally everything he has ever put out has been phenomenal, and he's literally the only artist you can say that about. Even Michael Jackson has a few bad songs. Kanye? Literal music perfection
If we’re being honest he’s at least top 5, as a whole artist
@icemeoutlikeelsa4 жыл бұрын
in his dreams
@natnael99924 жыл бұрын
hnljojoilbvtgfyvgub his dreams were probably 21 Grammys, oh wait
@anu123324 жыл бұрын
Yeah just above leonardo di vinci
@icemeoutlikeelsa4 жыл бұрын
@@natnael9992 Just like Taylor Swift, Justin Bieber, Britney Spears and a million other horror shows. He's in great company!
@duncan53184 жыл бұрын
Who’s other 4
@perfumekharku10224 жыл бұрын
Woah woah woah Melon. Didn’t need to drop the n-word at 10:24
@oleksandrbyelyenko4354 жыл бұрын
Are you serious? You either deaf or troll. Relisten to this moment again
@lenny40394 жыл бұрын
@@oleksandrbyelyenko435 ok.
@josh440264 жыл бұрын
Nickor
@UGLY-MONEY174 жыл бұрын
@@oleksandrbyelyenko435 .......
@ugo52004 жыл бұрын
10:25 *
@legoyoda97824 жыл бұрын
Genuinely makes me happy seeing all the comments giving serious replies to the topic in the video
@keysersoze2134 жыл бұрын
especially to a mischievously ironic and tongue-in-cheek remark from the caveman.😅 😂 🤣
@ayrtlamrin22644 жыл бұрын
@@keysersoze213 What's ironic or tongue-in-cheek about Cave's remark in anyway? It's funny what kind of moronic metal gymnastics people perform to discredit Kanye but i guess you gotta cope somehow.
@keysersoze2134 жыл бұрын
@@ayrtlamrin2264 obviously you're not familiar with mr. cave's work.
@ayrtlamrin22644 жыл бұрын
@@keysersoze213 I have heard 9 of his albums with the Bad Seeds and i'm looking forward to listening to the rest of work. I was first introduced to him from his film scores i am a fan of his body of work so you're wrong on that note. I am a much bigger fan of Cave than West cause he is the better artist (that goes without saying). There is nothing ironic or tongue-in-cheek about what he said here though not at all. Kanye is also incredibly talented and Cave recognizes it idk why you're trying so hard to discredit his words calling them "ironic and tongue-in-cheek" if you really admire him.
@keysersoze2134 жыл бұрын
@@ayrtlamrin2264 you have no idea cause you're obviously a dumb phukk!
@justicejericho974 жыл бұрын
Nick's opening answer is exactly the reason Ed Sheeran (and artists of his ilk) is/are an utterly pointless and vapid "artist/s". He caters exactly to his mindless listeners and doesn't care for the people who aren't his fans. He has no intention of winning over people indifferent to his music. Streaming has actually provided an extra financial safety blanket for these types of musicians and is needlessly prolonging their careers. He takes no risks, pushes no boundaries, but simply farms the preordained casual fans of his music. One day it'll wear off and Sheeran will be just like any 70s/80s radio star that our parents mention once in a blue moon but no one really thinks about in their day to day lives.
@Notpersonal41844 жыл бұрын
Justice so true
@Kylirr4 жыл бұрын
I'm saving this
@dismissing4 жыл бұрын
Except for Divide (and maybe Multiply), which was admittedly a cash grab (even Ed Sheeran said that his objective with this record was to make a bestselling album), I have to disagree. Ed Sheeran usually doesn't pander to audiences and jump on whatever's popular. Literally his first album was No. 5 collaborations project, a collaboration album with legendary grime artists which fucking bangs to this day. His follow up, is a great fusion of pop, hip-hop and folk with glints of pretty impressive songwriting. According to Sheeran, his next album is going to be a lo-fi album. His fans don't expect him to make a lofi album after making one of the highest selling pop albums of our time. But he is doing that now. In one of his interviews, he literally said that the sole objective of his career is to make an album that's timeless. Yeah, Divide doesn't scream of subversive creativity. It was engineered to sell records by Ed and even he doesn't really like a bulk of what he's written. But to fair, almost every pop artist is guilty of making a few cash-grabs. Even Kanye said that he fucking dislikes Gold Digger. He also said he wrote it because he knew it'll sell records.
@dismissing4 жыл бұрын
Just like people shouldn't judge Kanye through shit like Gold Digger and Stronger (which is a great song, but again, it's not a good representation of Kanye's discography, people shouldn't judge Ed through shit like Shape of You and Galway Girl
@DaOtisElevator4 жыл бұрын
Don’t see the issue with that statement. Kanye is one of the most influential artist of all time and his influence is clear.
@Abstru5e.4 жыл бұрын
exactly, peoples vision of kanye is shrouded by negative media attention he's had and also its sometimes difficult to appreciate the now
@nutsdeez62824 жыл бұрын
@Marcin Jechorek lol what a boomer
@swvi94594 жыл бұрын
@Marcin Jechorek You are right. Even DB that is underground has more musical talent then alive KW. KW is not a good artist
@jasey55024 жыл бұрын
@Marcin Jechorek Pretending not to read the "one of" part of this comment
@jorahgarrison25944 жыл бұрын
For the people saying he’s only promoting Christianity as a publicity stunt even with the two albums that gospel inspired, you forget Yandhi exists.
@JasonSalgado4 жыл бұрын
Kanye will always be my number one. He’s not just a musician, he’s an artist. He prides himself in fixing and tuning his music until he feels like it’s perfect. It’s the reason why he comes into anyone’s mind when they think of greatest album of all time. He’s very flawed but so Are we, we all are flawed we all go through phases and acts of our life we go through heart break, go through struggles, go through rebirth in ourselves, changes that change our mindsets, the difference is Kanye was able to create beautiful pieces of art from these phases. He’s so human that people point more of his flaws than all the good he’s done for Chicago.
@Selene_Dragon Жыл бұрын
This aged so poorly rip
@Aya_025714 жыл бұрын
Hands down, the most unexpected thing I’ve seen this week.
@travis_redfern67714 жыл бұрын
Dark Requiem True I don’t think I would’ve seen these two musicians in the same sentence even 😅
@Murmurrr4 жыл бұрын
and the MBDTF redux
@MinamuTV4 жыл бұрын
He called West the greatest _musician_ on Earth, with the reasoning being, “Making art is a form of madness - we slip deep within our own singular vision and become lost to it. There is no musician on Earth that is as committed to their own derangement as Kanye, and in this respect, at this point in time, he is our greatest artist.”
@proxynstuff14694 жыл бұрын
Red Hand Files sounds very cool for a crime show
@dacreativebrinson664 жыл бұрын
Anime Drama Mini-Series lol
@mr.gilbert27904 жыл бұрын
Well his song red right hand is the theme for a crime song so
@deftonescommando4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.gilbert2790 yeah, Peaky Blinders Excellent series btw
@kaimac4 жыл бұрын
Undoubtedly the greatest artist of the last 20 years
@KingSah4 жыл бұрын
All time
@yeezy79053 жыл бұрын
All time!!!!
@Aj-bh6zy3 жыл бұрын
@@KingSah Michael Jackson is better imo,ye is a lock for top 3 all time tho if u know music
@lenko26052 жыл бұрын
20 is pushing it by a lot. You gotta think about Radiohead and other 90s artists that kick ass.
@CSGOSeries4 жыл бұрын
Paul McCartney, Lou Reed and Nick Cave: Kanye is a genius Melon: Yeezus is a 5/10
@Munimun4 жыл бұрын
the whole appeal of Yeezus is that it's so divisive, I personally appreciate the harsher sound but somehow can't really call it a good album no matter how hard I listen, in fact the more I listen the more it... grosses me out, sort of
@97EDUB4 жыл бұрын
Yeezus is a 4/10.
@ianguidini77094 жыл бұрын
Paul McCartney on colaborating with Kanye: “I was tootling around on guitar, and Kanye spent a lot of time looking at pictures of Kim“. How is that calling him a genius?
@ugo52004 жыл бұрын
Any yeezus fans willing to explain to me the appeal. I can't help but laugh when listening to it (especially the song I'm in it) although bound 2 is a great song.
@richerprior59614 жыл бұрын
Ian Guidini Juan Lopez just made you look like a goddamn fool.
@MisterKOak4 жыл бұрын
"Making art is a form of madness - we slip deep within our own singular vision and become lost to it." I wholeheartedly agree with Nick Cave, as well as agreeing with him basically saying that without risk in art, there is no reward. Kanye West is, definitely, committed to his vision at any point in time, and I respect him for that.
@vabp89854 жыл бұрын
i think nick cave is right. when you consider that taste in music is subjective and just focus on artistry itself then kanye indeed is the greatest artist, who became absurdly successful, completely mainstream and yet never sold himself to any norm, spending his entire career doing exactly what he felt like with no strings attached. whether you like his music or not (and thats beyond the point here), kanye is indeed an absolute artist only loyal to his own vision, becoming what the punk movement only aspired of being but never did
@homeofnobles4 жыл бұрын
FACTS
@number_1_edward7714 жыл бұрын
All I heard from this video was ‘Playboi carti invented air’
@fredk69924 жыл бұрын
Bladee invented Playboi Carti
@GodHasReturnedOnceMore4 жыл бұрын
Just because you called him the greatest artist of all time, doesn't mean you had to do that 5 minute skit about your favorite shade of black people
@justinfromwfr4 жыл бұрын
Melon is mad that he isn't holy like Nick Cave
@97EDUB4 жыл бұрын
Melon was never holy at all. Cal is holy.
@jj4810124 жыл бұрын
I shook Kanye West’s hand; I’m never gonna fail.
@renapeppers204 жыл бұрын
i don't know but seeing artists like Nick who aren't close minded when it comes to different genres makes me happy
@byakugan21734 жыл бұрын
Nick Cave "Kanye is the greatest artist of our time" Melon "now what Nick might be saying is....." I think Nick expressed himself quite clearly.
@simonlopez-xx1bi4 жыл бұрын
Soy Chileno y no sé si me duelen más los 30 años de injusticia y abuso o la calificación que Fantano le volvió a poner a MBDTF. POR LA CHUCHA MELÓN!!!!!!!
@McElectronz4 жыл бұрын
2 questions need to be answered: From how long ago did “our time” of music start? Does “artists” include bands?
@Southforthewinter4 жыл бұрын
Electron no just single artist, no bands. And our time would include the oldest person of the generation we can go back to, so our time is essentially the past 100 years. That’s the easiest way to measure it because we know there’s a few 97 year olds out there and a very very small number of people above 100, so our time to keep it simple has to be the century. Kanye West is the best artist of this century, is what nick cave is claiming and I can’t disagree. Especially when we get into the science of how much help or not the best artist receive. For example kanye west has less help than Michael Jackson did. Michael couldn’t make an instrumental, he was a singer and a dancer and wrote music. Kanye on the other hand is a rapper, singer, writer, producer, and then there’s garment and footwear design which is all still art. So when we say Artist are we talking their entire package or just music.
@fabiob72614 жыл бұрын
@@Southforthewinter calling kanye the most influwntial artist of the last 20 years is arguable but at least makes sense, to extend that to the last 100 years is honestly just laughable
@StickThisUpYourAnus4 жыл бұрын
Our time is just the present, "off all the people alive at this moment"
@boltmix72944 жыл бұрын
@@fabiob7261 I mean he would still be top 10
@fabiob72614 жыл бұрын
@@boltmix7294 in the last century? come on be serious
@brunoszczerkowski9834 жыл бұрын
Kanye: Makes an album with Jesus theme Nick Cave: *approves*
@stateofblitz4 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in hearing Melon's top 100 artists of all time
@necktienick504 жыл бұрын
I.......agree
@kelvinleung67464 жыл бұрын
Have to agree with him. Kanye’s discography though not perfect is extremely influential and industry bending. Every album is a movement and thought provoking. Though beyond music, Kanye just seem to have a knack for breaking walls and inspiring others.
@Jason173004 жыл бұрын
Can’t measure artistic greatness objectively.
@elijahlashley88714 жыл бұрын
it's been like that for a minute hedi slimane
@nolantape4 жыл бұрын
This is my first KZbin comment
@scuzzoutsider34014 жыл бұрын
Nolan Galica congrats
@lewiswyndham92854 жыл бұрын
boom boom clap
@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. You'll be copy/pasting in no time ☺️🤙🏾
@nolantape4 жыл бұрын
Where am I
@AloysWalterStefan4 жыл бұрын
it sucks
@darko24074 жыл бұрын
Maynard James Keenan is that artist. 3 Bands, 2 Vineyards, an Entire rebuilt Arizona ghost town. That is Prince level in artist world creation.
@swvi94594 жыл бұрын
Yep. KW is not a great artist. MJK is. Facts
@jordanmillon89044 жыл бұрын
Found the libertarian neckbeard
@loboreyiz89334 жыл бұрын
Both MJK and Ye are amazing artists stop the useless comparison
@darko24074 жыл бұрын
I didn't say anything negative about Kanye, after he gets his non profit and cult rolling in Wyoming he will get there.
@darko24074 жыл бұрын
@@jordanmillon8904 Found the Socialist that lives in his moms basement.
@KanyeRaeJepsen4 жыл бұрын
This generation's closest thing to Einstein so don't worry about me I'm fine
@snakeworldpeace4 жыл бұрын
i can see a thousand years from now in real life SKATE on the paradigm and shift it when i feel like
@Edward-69094 жыл бұрын
So i guess elon musk doesnt exist in yalls' world
@KanyeRaeJepsen4 жыл бұрын
@@Edward-6909 nobody tell Edward it's a quote.
@Edward-69094 жыл бұрын
@@KanyeRaeJepsen its a pretty egotistical stupid one.guess it suits idiots.
@KanyeRaeJepsen4 жыл бұрын
@@Edward-6909 yeah, you're stupid. Okay.
@CB-zr4et4 жыл бұрын
That’s a pretty cool way of thinking about it, Kanye is so involved in his own artistic vision that in a way he becomes the art
@BlackOceanSociety4 жыл бұрын
Each decade has some pretty good artists 1450: Guillame Dufay 1460: Johannes Ockeghem 1470: Josquin des Prez 1480: Pierre de La Rue 1490: Martin Agricola 1500: Antonius Divitus 1510: Nicolas Gombert 1520: Thomas Tallis 1530: Pierre de Marchincourt 1540: Cloude Goudimel 1550: Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina 1560: Orlade de Lassus 1570: William Byrd 1580: Giovanni Gabrieli 1590: Thomas Campion 1600: Michael Praetorius 1610: Claudio Monteverdi 1620: Girolamo Frescobaldi 1630: Francesco Cavalli 1640: Johan Jakob Froberger 1650: Jean-Baptiste Lully 1660: Heinrich Schutz 1670: Dieterich Buxtehude 1680: Heinrich Ignaz Franz von Biber 1690: Arcangelo Corelli 1700: Henry Purcell 1710: Antonio Vivaldi 1720: Georg Philipp Telemann 1730: Jean-Philippe rameau 1740: Johann Sebastian Bach 1750: Domenico Scarlatti 1760: George Fideric Handel 1770: Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach 1780: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart 1790: Ludwig van Beethoven 1800: Joseph Haydn 1810: Carl Maria von Weber 1820: Niccolo Paganini 1830: Gioacchino Rossini 1840: Franz Schubert 1850: Franz Liszt 1860: Johannes Brahms 1870: Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky 1880: Antonin Dvorak 1890: Edvard Greig 1900: Gustav Mahler 1910: Igor Stravinsky 1920: Arnold Schoenberg 1930: Anton Webern 1940: Bela Bartok 1950: Dmitry Shostakovich 1960: Karlheinz Stockhausen 1970: Brian Ferneyhough 1980: Alfred Schnittke 1990: Arvo Part 2000: John Adams 2010: Kanye West
@tristang22874 жыл бұрын
rudiサイバーウォークマン what the hell is this
@maximilian68304 жыл бұрын
rudiサイバーウォークマン you can’t compare Kanye to composers
@FoddyFogHorn4 жыл бұрын
Maximilian Kirk yes you can, stop being closed minded
@FoddyFogHorn4 жыл бұрын
rudiサイバーウォークマン this comment kinda a flex
@maximilian68304 жыл бұрын
FoddyFogHorn literally 250 years of classical composers and then a rapper who puts together random samples into new music
@VelocitySnipes4 жыл бұрын
"If you're a fan of Kanye West, you're not a fan of me. You're a fan of yourself." -Kanye West
@jasey55024 жыл бұрын
Most people I've seen who hate Kanye really aren't confident or comfortable with who they are. And I'm not saying thats their fault, it makes sense, but a portion of these people are bitter that Kanye is so vocal about how much he loves himself because secretly they wish they could be like that.
@whatup534 жыл бұрын
its just another way to say hes Arrogant
@Jackson-jd1um4 жыл бұрын
mr. cuddles i feel like at this point he has the right to be cocky and arrogant i mean he’ll look at everything he was able to accomplish
@whatup534 жыл бұрын
@@Jackson-jd1um your an idiot, no one has the right to be "arrogant" or" cocky" youre suppose to he humbled
@alexperryman234 жыл бұрын
@@whatup53 L
@justchillin95414 жыл бұрын
He is definitely one of the greatest.
@sethmcgrath10934 жыл бұрын
"I don't even like likes" -Kanye West
@alexswedock39114 жыл бұрын
Magneto by Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds is one of the best songs of all time
@Miller141004 жыл бұрын
Alex Swedock I agree
@adamgates11424 жыл бұрын
@@Miller14100 "The urge to kill someone was basically overwhelming" - most relateable lyric ever
@widM_4 жыл бұрын
you could replace any his song with Magneto and I would still like this comment.
@bofa46083 жыл бұрын
Kanye is a living epitome of free thought and self-expression. He is the greatest artist we’ve seen in a very long time.
@poketh58544 жыл бұрын
He's right
@Windows98.4 жыл бұрын
Nick Caves is like melon's melon for opinion forming, I'm expecting a MBDTF redux redux review as a 12/10 soon
@tomv20633 жыл бұрын
He ain’t wrong
@MegaTyler974 жыл бұрын
Kanye gave birth to much of what we have in hip-hop today, we wouldn't have a lot of artists that we have today without Mr. West
@randallrohr6234 жыл бұрын
He’s definitely my favorite living artist. I think Nick is pretty spot on. I think it’s Kanye’s willingness and uncompromising will that pushes everything he does to the next level. I saw him at Pigeon Forge a couple of days ago for Sunday Service and he had approximately 38,000 flowers sent to the theater and surrounded the stage with them. I was socked when I felt some that they were all real. It’s such a small detail and must have costed more money than it was worth but Kanye had a vision and wanted to execute it no matter the cost. He’s always been that way the Yeezus tour is a prime example he was losing money every night but all he cared about was sharing his vision with the world.
@AlluMan964 жыл бұрын
When Nick talks of madness and derangement, I didn't read it as mental health at all. Instead, it sounds more like he likens madness to stubbornness. Being so caught in your concept and mentality that you don't allow it to be influenced. A commitment to your ideas so deep that you don't bog it down with trying to internally question it or take into account too many second opinions on it, lest you dilute the premise.
@SeekingSonora4 жыл бұрын
It is very interesting to think about the idea that great art requires great pain and suffering. I also sometimes think about whether musicians, painters, writers, ect, tend to secretly or unknowingly hold onto their mental struggles or tragedies in order to produce great work. Do "genius" artists have an addiction to their own pain? Not to sound too pretentious, but I recently read Malcolm Gladwell's Talking to Strangers, and in it he mentions how successful poets have a strangely high suicide rate. I wonder what the death stats are on musicians. Sorry for the long comment, I just find this topic so interesting.
@elijahtalmud82814 жыл бұрын
we love legends stanning legends
@joshuajackson47424 жыл бұрын
I love Kanye. No one is the greatest artist of our time, or of any time though. Anyone who says such things about anyone are just fanboys.
@nohbuddy14 жыл бұрын
The correct answer is Devin Townsend
@mikeyjeanson4 жыл бұрын
Weird that he left out “ let’s agree”
@oleksandrbyelyenko4354 жыл бұрын
He is the greatest artist of our days and I don't even listen to his music
@davidfromsouthpark90234 жыл бұрын
Start with College Drop and move on from there's. For me, his flawless album is Late Registration. I don't even skip a song on that album
@Alex-sr7xu4 жыл бұрын
I think he's the greatest famous artist. There's a possibility that a better artist is out there, however they certainly don't have enough recognition if so.
@davidfromsouthpark90234 жыл бұрын
@Mutombo also listen some of his un release stuff. Good Friday is a great mixtape
@XD1237714 жыл бұрын
You should, your missing out
@Alex-sr7xu4 жыл бұрын
@Mutombo perhaps
@presleyluis46664 жыл бұрын
kanye is the greatest artist of our generation and one of the all time greatest of all time. its undeniable
@alexrazo53924 жыл бұрын
Kanye perfectly encapsulates our time and culture. Kanye's artistic vision's influence has had a dramatic effect on all avenues of art. I agree with Nick even if I'm not a huge fan of Mr. West.
@dissinyosandwich75484 жыл бұрын
What I find especially interesting about this is that someone like Nick Cave has been around for a good long while and yet is absolutely more than willing to give these modern and forward-thinking artists like Kanye their due respect. As a huge Cave fan and a semi-casual Kanye fan, this is super cool to see unfold.
@samiahmed2327 Жыл бұрын
This didnt age well
@GdeaCastillo Жыл бұрын
Why? He's still one of the goat's
@19bones99 Жыл бұрын
@@GdeaCastillo kanye "I love hitler" west
@shnye Жыл бұрын
@@19bones99 that was the unfunniest joke ive ever heard
@AydarBMSTU4 жыл бұрын
It's ok to be wrong, nick
@awayforthewin13254 жыл бұрын
This episode was really funny until anthony
@nickmoss20464 жыл бұрын
Wow. The greatest artist of our time calling Kanye the greatest artist of our time.
@CrazyKonaKai4 жыл бұрын
Not to be confused with The Black Hand Files, which started World War 1
@Boswellboxer4 жыл бұрын
Kona Kai RIP to the arch duke, got owned by the black hand gang.
@billy79754 жыл бұрын
I thought you were talking about Nickolas Cage for the majority of this video
@CashewChestnuts4 жыл бұрын
“I’m this eras greatest artists” what was that antnee??
@llamad33814 жыл бұрын
For sure
@Jason173004 жыл бұрын
How can it be Kanye when it’s actually Nick himself?
@desertchrome45384 жыл бұрын
- College Dropout - Late Registration - Graduation - 808s and Heartbreaks - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy 5 classic albums. Thats GOAT materiel.
@TheJblu4 жыл бұрын
Desert Chrome FACTS
@FoddyFogHorn4 жыл бұрын
And those classics are better than a lot of other classics as well
@XD1237714 жыл бұрын
TLOP and KSG are future classics. Maybe even Yeezus
@cartilagehead4 жыл бұрын
You forgot yeezus, that album is still influencing the shit out of the industry
@joeymack46224 жыл бұрын
You forget Pablo and Yeezus. Your list sucks
@lifesabbq4 жыл бұрын
I think that you can't answer this question until you're no longer in "our time"
@tommyfrisch60074 жыл бұрын
He's been relevant for almost 2 decades, I think it's a safe assumption at this point
@kaustubhxdd4 жыл бұрын
fantano: *gives genuine album reviews* comments: *shitposts* fantano: kanye good comments: *actual fucking comments agreeing*
@regeman1004 жыл бұрын
there is no such thing as the greatest artist of "some time period" time
@jasey55024 жыл бұрын
So there's just the greatest artist ever? Surely putting, for example, Kendrick Lamar and Beethoven in the same competition is unfair to both artists?
@kendallmasterssank3694 жыл бұрын
Tragedy artists are the worst. Art is food. Art is life. Art is happiness
@Exit_Sign4 жыл бұрын
I think the criteria isn't complete: if music doesn't communicate effectively, you can't expect listeners to be touched emotionally. So the criteria should reflect that too; not just how "vision-centric" or challenging the musician is, but also how effectively they can communicate with the listener.
@nedkuczmynda37824 жыл бұрын
Exit Sign this is valid, but I would say Kanye tends to be a pretty effective communicator as well. At least in terms of emotion. Especially on Yeezus and 808s
@Exit_Sign4 жыл бұрын
@@nedkuczmynda3782 Yeah I do agree with this too
@dxc56984 жыл бұрын
I don't think Nick is saying Kanye is the greatest artist right now. But that he is the single artist who is least swayed by anything other than what he needs to express.
@thebl00dyv3gan4 жыл бұрын
Name one genius that ain’t crazy
@Victorlp12344 жыл бұрын
There is no argument to be made on Kanye being the greatest artist of our generation. He just is...
@Can0nn0naC4 жыл бұрын
There’s beautiful madness, melon. A beautiful dark twisted fantasy one could call it
@yd8564 жыл бұрын
I agree. It’s Kanye.
@jordanhoran97414 жыл бұрын
Atlanta’s Teddy Perkins episode speaks on this exact topic about how some believe great art has to come through great pain or a tragedy, and Darius argues that it’s not true. If you’ve seen it you know what I’m talking about but it’s a really really good episode and topic
@will81174 жыл бұрын
Anthony you can’t say that a “negro” can’t be considered for greatest artist of all time
@carrotbabysreactionvideos80624 жыл бұрын
Hate him or love him, I'm sure we can all agree that *everybody* is glad that Kanye isn't Drake, just making soulless "hits" one after the other - instead, making what he wants to make, regardless of criticism or concern for people who aren't vibing
@frogjumpgood4 жыл бұрын
Kanye has become more than an artist and exemplifies what it means to be cool today. Incredibly successful sneaker line and a fashion icon, pioneered the artistic use of autotune, married a Kardashian. And now that he's established himself as the coolest man of our time, he has the freedom to do absolutely anything he wants.
@professorpancakes65454 жыл бұрын
lol I hope this is sarcasm.
@adamgates11424 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@frogjumpgood4 жыл бұрын
@@professorpancakes6545 Not sarcasm. Name a dude in his 40s with more influence and relevance in popular music and fashion (and in turn, coolness).
@professorpancakes65454 жыл бұрын
frogjumpgood now I know you're joking. Pop music and fashion are about conformity have literally nothing to do with being cool!