HDZero 1 Watt and Comparison // Digital Long Range // Still M3 Mounting

[@RyanQuellet]

Small correction: the mounting holes are standard m3 clearance holes. The hole in the PCB will be larger than the heatsink so that the heatsink takes most of the load

[@jumpstartfpv]

So the production run ones will also have M3 holes? That would be nicer.

[@elxero2189]

Thanks for clearing that up

[@RyanQuellet]

@@jumpstartfpv production is m3 clearance hole

[@baggszilla]

And it only goes to 17 volts or 4s max unless hooked up to a step down voltage regulator. For the early versions.

[@breakflight]

I'm so glad to hear that. I panicked a bit when I heard a 30x30 would move to M2. The 20x20 had M3, which I thought was out of the norm for a 20x20. I was really hoping the 30x30 wouldn't use M2, since 30x30 definitely is standardized on M3.

[@slackerinmotion]

IMO, HDZero and ELRS have brought some great innovations to this hobby in recent years. They incorporate user feedback and make iterative improvements in a timely manner. One could even say they have "low latency."😊

[@JaredMcConnellFerzen]

Pun intended lol

[@BOTGRINDER]

nice! im really excited to see what orqa does with hd zero!

[@shutteruprc7722]

That shit true then bot?

[@aythixfpv]

Was this a accident?!?!?!

[@robert_g_fbg]

Orqa is announcing at CES this week. We’ll know soon, right?

[@creationlabsinc.189]

Probably a few steps above fatshark I’d imagine

[@MachineManGabb]

I am also very excited

[@ghall05]

The biggest difference I notice is that with the analog, the whole image jumps around a little bit during the break up which does make it harder to fly through imo. The hd zero breaks up but the overall image stays rock solid. To me, that's a big plus!

[@robert_g_fbg]

When the signal loss occurs during the sync pulse, the frame rolls. Seems that HD0 does better with sync recovery.

[@akatopj22]

Can't wait for the 1 watt,going right in my brand new Nagual. Got the foxer camera going in also..

[@johncarold]

Hi Nick Great video and review of the HDZero. There just isn't enough money for me to go DJI googles and switch to digital. But now HDZero, I think it's possible. Thanks again for the video and information.

[@parker1ray]

I recently changed a micro camera because no matter what I did, there was bad jello. Good clear image quality helps a bunch in making a flight enjoyable!

[@lievenvv]

Ive had this happen when one of the lenses inside the camera lens came loose.. Did you try a different lens, if you have any?

[@z506fpv5]

Thanks for the comparison with your usual high quality bar. I’m more into racing and already have HDZero for that… but this Vtx makes me want to do a Freestyle build. I enjoyed the video, Thanks

[@iamporto]

My inner child laughed at the "no nuts" comment. Great review, this was one of the last big hurdles for hdzero to get more acceptance.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

lol. Ya know your the first to catch that. When I heard it editing I very nearly took it out, but yea we all need a laugh.

[@iamporto]

@@NickBurnsFPV a little levity is always welcome during these times.

[@aythixfpv]

I would be happy with a 500 or 600mw whoop or other standard. I currently use the whoop due to fitting in my glide easier. Thank you as always

[@theronin48]

This would be very cool. With a mic.

[@robert_g_fbg]

If this vTx would come with Vista compatible hole pattern, it’d fit more frames easily.

[@aythixfpv]

@@robert_g_fbg if I'm correct that's 20x20. I got a whoop 26x26 adapter. I would take a whoop due to more room over holes in the board like the 20x20. The race v2 wouldn't fit in my glide due to the awkward shape and position of the holes.

[@CalleyyyC]

The little plug is for the control board. At least on the whoop board I’ve used that to physical change the Chanel and output power! I think you can also adjust cam settings if the camera has a settings menu, will have to double check manual

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Oh yes, that is right. I stopped using that control board after my first try or two. :)

[@juicetfpv1504]

Thanks Nick! Happy New Year to you and yours. Looking forward to your videos in 2022!👍👍

[@jonathangilpin193]

When your neighbor is asking about KZbin again tell him one of your subscribers from northern Ireland said hi and thanks for letting us fly around his house!😀🖖

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Will do he will be jazzed to hear it! 😃

[@KernsJW]

Looks great to me, thanks for showing us what the new one can do!

[@nistax2880]

2:59 thats for the controller board in case you need to acces the channel and power etc but you dont got a fc conected to it

[@colinmetzger6755]

One thing I recently learned from watching Wesley do range tests is that with the top of the output band (e.g. Raceband 8), your VTX output will actually drop off significantly. Not sure how much it drops typically, but on the HDzero VTX it went from 1000 mW down to ~350 mW.

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

Actual output on a professional rig for testing is about 650mw at R8. But yes, you're right.

[@kurtzFPV]

What are the best channels to utilize full output?

[@RyanQuellet]

@@kurtzFPV the lower the channel, the better for this vtx amplifier. So R1 is best at 1000mW. R8 is about 650mW

[@kurtzFPV]

@@RyanQuellet Thanks. Just watched Wesley's vid as well. Seems that it also has to do with which frequency is most resonant with the vtx antenna and also applies to analog. Standard cut antennas must be aimed toward the lower channels. Good to know.

[@CaptCalgary]

Looks awesome and range too. Still on the fence great review again!!!

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

More footage on my page and a few other channels for the 1 watt

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty fantastic flying, Nick! Awesome review! 😃 This system is getting better and better! Love it! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@creationlabsinc.189]

Still analog 2.0

[@creationlabsinc.189]

We need a REAL digital competitor to emerge.

[@nikotttin]

Excellent content Nick! Informative while succinct. I must say that I’ve tested the whoop board and was actually quite pleasantly surprised with the range… Of note I would also strongly recommend watching vids from the Giant Ant Cowboy. Great long range on SharkByte 👍

[@DumbThumbsFPV]

Great video Nick. I had too much snow on the ground to really have fun with mine.

[@JLfpv]

Snow doesn't matter if you use conformal coating check out my snow video from a couple yrs ago. I did snow covered tree bonks on purpose and crash landed in the snow, proceeded to beat the snow out of my frame and kept flying.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

oh I have snow now too. This was more than two weeks ago. Weather has certainly changed.

[@theagileaardvark]

1:34 "Entire stack looks to be fiveandahalf milimeters thick" while the calipers show 9.56mm. How does that fit together? :D I don't get it... What am I missing here?

[@Cre8ionz.]

Lol :D

[@theronin48]

Fantastic overview man!

[@MrPaulielie]

Happy new year Nick 👍

[@aviphysics]

I am pretty sure the little port is for the little adjustment board that allows changing channel and power without a flight controller.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That is correct. I forgot that as I have tried to use it since the firmware was updated to include camera control all those months ago🤷🏻‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@mcclarinscott]

Great review Nick! Thanks!

[@joevo2]

Good penetration test. Thanks for the great content! I’m sold

[@ironlionfpv]

Great comparison video, thnx nick!

[@glitchunicorn]

Its great to finally see a penetration test like this

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

More videos on my page and Ryan Quellet page showing penetration on 1 watt

[@glitchunicorn]

@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 yep been tearing through the videos :)

[@nikotttin]

27gr!!! I initially thought that was a mistake (I admit I listen more than I look… 😉)

[@rcscientific6004]

Great footage and technology! Like the range test so close to the ground. Thanks. Would to run it on my RC cars. At which radio frequency and power is the image transfer running?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

This is on Raceband 1 at full power with is 1 Watt

[@JLfpv]

Do you think it'll be possible for hdzero to make an rx that fits into normal fatshark module bay? And use the bays pin connectors? If not connectors in bay at least fit the bay and still have hdmi jumper? That would be the thing that would take away all hesitation to jump on board for me at least. I don't want to get the rx knowing it's a couple yrs old and a new one will probably be dropping this yr based on how fast our tech moves...

[@w1llyFPV]

Hello Nick, great work as usual. Yes HDZero is my new direction that I want to go this year. Have you got idea about shark byte module where to buy in good money?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

There was a wide sale of the receiver module but that is over. Best we can do is to find a coupon code from our preferred vendor. The most popular fpv shops are carrying sharkbyte/hdzero. Getfpv racedayquads pyrodrone banggood etc

[@boostinjdm]

We're your lenses fogged from the temp change? Or what? Even my analog clearly shows the bark on the trees.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don’t think so. These flights came on pretty reasonably nice days. I think it was around 50f

[@boostinjdm]

@@NickBurnsFPV maybe KZbin just butchered it along the way. Images definitely weren't as sharp as I'm used to seeing on your channel and first hand.

[@shutteruprc7722]

The problem is always getting stock, ivr got a shark byte rx, 2x hdzero cams, no cables and no vtx, 3 months later

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The production has been limited but growing as demand grows.

[@nitronut1723]

Pyro has HDZero Cameras, Mipi cables and VTX in stock right now. I just ordered some last week and it out for delivery today.

[@shutteruprc7722]

@@NickBurnsFPV so csn we buy this vtx now?

[@shutteruprc7722]

@@nitronut1723 this 1w vtx?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@shutteruprc7722 no not today. Next week is what I have been told.

[@shannonsmith4986]

Great info. I fly around the yard with lots of obstructions also. Your video really showed the difference between the analog and HDzero that I hadn't seen. Have you tried the same flight with the DJI?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don’t think I have done that exact path but yes from the back to the front

[@ArthurAlexLange]

Hi! Please provide a link to the source files from the DVR from this video.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Why? I find my content on other channel enough without doing that

[@3dprintingworld756]

It's been 4 weeks... Any update on when this VTX is going to be released? Just ordered the FS Scout and the Race V2 vtx couple of days ago, now comes the waiting part...

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Sorry, I don't know. I don't have that sort of close contact. I can't remember the name of the town they are made in, last I heard that town was in covid lockdown and no manufacturing was occurring.

[@nemocheerio]

All these new vtx's and cameras and such. But how do you receive signal from these?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Over the air, somewhat like wifi but different. We match the frequency the vtx is transmitted on our goggles.

[@nemocheerio]

@@NickBurnsFPV What I mean is, the only receiver for this seemed to be the Fatshark one and that hasn't been available in a long time. Are people still using that to receive the signal or is there some new option out there that I'm not aware of. I know they split, but I don't see a receiver for sale anywhere from Fatshark or HDO. Am I just looking up the wrong thing?

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

@@nemocheerio 3 new vrx are being released soon

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

@@nemocheerio also scout HD have them built in

[@nemocheerio]

@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 Oh, OK. Thanks for the info. I fly analog and am looking forward to trying this out. Just thought it was weird how there were tonnes of videos on VTX's and none on VRX's.

[@gmivisualsjason3729]

Excellent video thanks

[@jeanfrancoisvandiest9729]

great video my friend😃 really interesting👊👍

[@alphaghost13674]

Could you provide the STL file for the 25x25 to 30x30 adapter you used?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I am away on vacation right now. I think is searched thingiverse for 30x30 to 25x25 adapter. If you can’t find it email I can look when I return

[@angelicgundam90]

Nick do you still have a pair of dominator v3 kicking around? I'm curious how the image quality is with the HD zero/shark byte system in those older goggles. I use a set of Dom v3 with analog right now but would love to make the jump to digital for most things. Still trying to decide between investing in dji or the hdzero system.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Sorry I don’t. I don’t think I have had a pair of those.

[@Atlas_FPV]

Nice comparison, I really wish you flew a DJI quad along the same path for a threeway comparison, any chance of doing that?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I don’t think it’s have flow that exact path but have flown the nebula pro in the area. It was during a different time of year so the colors are different

[@Atlas_FPV]

@@NickBurnsFPV do you happen to know which video has it?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@Atlas_FPV Not at all the same path but this is around the house and down by the creak. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b5u4h6GKrJd1hLs

[@baggszilla]

Awesome Thanks Nick!

[@bbsheppo]

Damn I wish they'd make a small one for tiny whoops.

[@aythixfpv]

I would be happy with a 5v 50mw to 100mw

[@bbsheppo]

@@aythixfpv agreed 😉

[@dcvshambhu]

Same here....i m interested in tiny digital whoop 20-30gm

[@iam.miikey]

Probably suck the life out of a 1s lipo…

[@aythixfpv]

@@iam.miikey I would like to have a digital babytooth. Also that vtx would be loved by racers.

[@CrawlersCampRc]

The part that mounts to front of goggles is that for fatshark only or can be used like with skyzone 02c?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

It is fatshark specific. There are 3D prints available for sky zone goggles

[@CrawlersCampRc]

@@NickBurnsFPV I'm sorry I put last message wrong. Meant besides mounting will they work as in plugging in and operating on them? Just uses Avi plug and Avi setting?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@CrawlersCampRc Yes, as long as we have working hdmi input on the goggles they will work. I have heard the skyzone 03x have the hdmi input but don't work, but that is only one case. I have also come across a few people that have hdmi input ports but they don't work, nothing does. Test with a computer before buying. Plug the video from a computer into the goggle hdmi port.

[@CrawlersCampRc]

@@NickBurnsFPV right on!!

[@testpilotian3188]

What happens with HDZ if the signal goes completely? Can you just punch out and it come back? Or is it like DJI and one it’s gone, it’s gone? Being a DJI user, I love the breakup of HDZero, it’s so tempting to switch but the vtx still looks to fragile in comparison to the vista, as you know with the DJI it blurs instead of snows and if you do not know where you are flying you can get into trouble very quickly, at our field we’re always playing chicken in the woods to see who can get furthest before the video gives out.

[@flyingpenguin2231]

When you punch out the video feed comes back. Its behavior is like analog.

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

Will come back as soon as it has any signal. Behaves like analog in that regard. I really love the break up of hdzero instead for myself. My channel has 1 watt video

[@Sully365]

is 1watt a problem for fcc regs?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

If I recall correctly we are to have a ham license if using more then 25mw. Don’t quote me on that it’s been awhile

[@jorgec5335]

Great work!

[@pritchfpv6070]

Can we please get a comparison to dji aswell 😇😇

[@DuckyRC]

Lost some weight I see! Looking good man :)

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I have 👌. Getting older gotta get things in order

[@elxero2189]

Hold going down to m2 in size? Why most 30*30 congifs are m3 I don't get this move

[@NickBurnsFPV]

No I am mistaken. Ryan has corrected me, staying M3

[@rasmus80g]

The big question when and where can you buy a reciver. Without it the vtx is useless :-/

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I see some have been receiving their orders. I am not sure if any of the shops have stock or its all pre order.

[@RichMoore-tweakin7376]

I don't know why I can't be sold on this. I feel like for a couple hundred more dollars DJI would be a better buy. Does anyone with HD zero have any thoughts?

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

I flew both side by side. It's going to come down to the pilot, but I honestly prefer the hdzero system. Many will also be happy with dji

[@RichMoore-tweakin7376]

@@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 The flicker I see in all the videos, It kind of reminds me of analog. Any thoughts?

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I notice the flicker far more in analog. In the worst cases with analog I can “feel it”. When dji starts to “decompose” I only notice when flying slow.

[@RichMoore-tweakin7376]

@@NickBurnsFPV glad you chimed in. I've heard you say "decompose". I get it. Let me ask this.. Freestyle, not for racing, money is not an issue, DJI or SharkBite?

[@anthonyfpvminiquad1728]

@@RichMoore-tweakin7376 that again comes down to pilot. I'm free style you get the same advantages on analog as you would freestyling. Hence performance wise analog and hdzero simply out perform the dji system. So it comes down to do you want to trade flight performance for no break up. Also what kind of locations do you fly? Consider Mr steele for example. He flies spits harder than most and makes use of more of the average spot than the average person yet he's on analog. There's truly only so far you actually need to go in freestyle. Performances vs full time image

[@gaddivo]

Where to find this? cant find anywhere

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Likely available next week at a number of resellers

[@gaddivo]

@@NickBurnsFPV thank you

[@jsnlmb42]

If only the goggle module was in stock anywhere this would be great ☹️.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Yes stock of all things has been challenging. Thankful our refrigerator died before the chip shortage

[@walkershot92]

why in the world would they go to m2 holes on a 30x30? 30x30 stacks don't use m2.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Sorry I was mistaken. Staying M3 mounting.

[@madladdan]

Problem with hdzero is how quickly you can go from eh I'll push it and go around the house to woops I have zero video.

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I would agree it does degrade quickly in some instances, like analog in my experience

[@jcfpv3454]

I wish they would have given us a usb c connection

[@NickBurnsFPV]

The vtx updates via the vrx we would need both ends to have that

[@nerdCopter]

+1👍 💪

[@onclefly8450]

Hi Nick, I prefer DJI 😁👌

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Do dji all things? Even the little micros and whoops?

[@GUILLERMO.NESPOlO]

I wish I have u like neighbor Nick

[@NickBurnsFPV]

Lol I wish I had neighbors that were into fpv. But maybe if so we might become outcasts. So maybe it’s best the way it is. At least for me

[@pascalgermanfpv238]

Why m2????, How inconvenient 😭 im gonna drill that shit up man

[@NickBurnsFPV]

its m3, I made a mistake in the video and noted it in the pinned comment and the title.

[@pascalgermanfpv238]

@@NickBurnsFPV yeah saw it, forgot to delete this tho. I was able to pre order 3 now, they should drop them soon 🤩

[@NickBurnsFPV]

@@pascalgermanfpv238 whoa, 3? Going all in 1Watt!!

[@pascalgermanfpv238]

Sure, i wanna leave analog

[@MrTheguywiththemoney]

M2 on a 30x30 makes zero sense

[@NickBurnsFPV]

That is a mistake I made. It will remain M3. Noted in the title, description and possibly in a pinned comment. Memory isn’t 100% 🤦‍♂️

[@pooljunki1]

Looks like analog

[@JLfpv]

Don't hate. That side by side shows a clear difference between analog quality and hdzero... I'm getting pumped to switch. Soon as the next rx comes out in a smaller form I'm all in

[@creationlabsinc.189]

@@JLfpv he’s stated his option he’s not hating. I own both and this is a big jump from analog. Dji is technically superior but what can you expect when their pockets are much much deeper for R&D.

[@3000gtwelder]

Meh...

[@nistax2880]

m2 ewww

[@NickBurnsFPV]

I was mistaken it is staying M3

[@rotormasher]

Not that much better than analogue!

[@creationlabsinc.189]

Actually there’s a lot of visual differences. Hands down better and a total upgrade from analog. Still no dji tho

[@Loz348]

still looks awful