Nicolai Gedda's Spectacular Arnold (Tenor Assoluto / Full body Db5s)

[@mao1878]

Did you listen to Filippeschi? kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYXKgYGXasmsn9E Or even Corelli’s mentor Lauri Volpi kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmecm6l7nLx9g8U And then there was the exercising of Corelli while studying the role kzbin.info/www/bejne/mp_GY3t3npdppck Lauri Volpi told him to stick only to Poliuto.. and so he did.

[@LohengrinO]

is that actually corelli cracking? :D

[@mao1878]

Lohengrin O he was studying the role... and he never released the tapes.. i guess everybody cracks while studying, testing to see what works and what not.. But just imagine him singing it! On the other hand he was soooo amazing in Poliuto i am not sure i would have traded Tell for Poliuto, especially since it was singing with Maria and Bastianini 🤔😏

[@LohengrinO]

@@mao1878 Arnold is considered much more difficult than Poliuto... only Jean from Le Prophete is considered equally difficult

[@mao1878]

Lohengrin O not sure the advice Franco got was in regards to the difficulty/tessitura or such things but maybe more to him studying both these roles at the same time.. he was studying and singing higher than needed ( on half step higher) so he was much more than capable, but singing both in the same stagiatura would have been like Callas singing Brunhilde and Puritani’s Leonora in the same week. Not saying Corelli was a lesser performer or anything, but he wasn’t the genius assoluta Callas was either..

[@LohengrinO]

@@mao1878 as Eternally Fabulous Corelli was, I think that Db5 and above, to be sung with his huge, clean, ultra steady sound were excruciatingly difficult... it would be like asking Callas or Sutherland carry up the main body of their Voice to G6

[@Mawrdew]

I was fortunate enough to see Gedda in concert and opera back in the day, including the Met's never-to-be-forgotten Bartered Bride production as well as a performance of Faust (also starring Cesare Siepi!) that I wandered into when I was at loose ends in NYC one evening. Talk about life's lucky breaks.

[@MrQbenDanny]

BRAVO!!BRAVISSIMO!!! VIVA!!! This is raw, let it out, virile macho hard-on singing. FANTASTICO, and the reason why MARIA chose him for her MEDEA.

[@МихаилХристов-л6г]

He is almost 50 in this recording!! Nicolai Gedda is Gilbert Duprez of XX century, and Rossini specially wrote this role for Duprez. SPLENDORO! VERAMENTE! Nicolai Gedda is Genius among all the singers, and real internatinal heritage, speaking 14 languages, and singing music of all styles... He sang at the Moscow Bolshoi at 55, and sounded better than Del Monaco and Bergonzi in a very difficult acoustical condition of this huge theatre! The audience was in ecstasy!...

[@joshuafurtado-mendes9327]

Rossini didn’t specifically write the role for Duprez at all. He wrote it for Adolphe Nourrit

[@hadikheradmandpour7394]

2 days before his anniversary. RIP unforgettable king of high D

[@LohengrinO]

...didnt know that... nice timing from me...

[@hadikheradmandpour7394]

I thought you know :) nice timing indeed

[@elsaasta5164]

Allora, caro Lohengrin 0, mi sono voluta documentare un pochino di più su questo brano di Rossini, certo che il nostro Gioacchino per mettere sulle braci ardenti, sia per i Soprano e sia per i Tenori, bisogna dire ch'era un portento per le grandi difficoltà che inseriva nelle sua eccellenti composizioni.. Molto bravo questo Sig. Voina a segnalare i Grandi interpreti del passato sia Filippeschi e Giacomo Lauri Volpi.. Capperi!!! Questo è un brano pazzesco ed è bellissimo... ma c'è pericolo di morirci sopra. Comunque caro Lohengrin 0, grazie a te e grazie al Sig. Voina M. molto editto in materia operistica. Un saluto Elsa...... Errata corrige: si legga edotto e non editto... tanto per essere precisi.

[@friedrichdonhauser5664]

Nicolai Gedda der beste Tenor des 20 Jahrhundert.

[@ThomasDawkins88]

Not a widely recorded opera, only done completely twice in the studio. Gedda in 1972 in French, and Pavarotti in 1979, in Italian of course. Gedda's recording gets Montserrat Caballé, Gabriel Bacquier, Mady Mesplé, and Gwynne Howell; Pavarotti's has Mirella Freni, Sherrill Milnes, Nicolai Ghiaurov, and Della Jones. Chris Merritt has done it, and it's a smaller, pingy voice, but it does get the job done.

[@LohengrinO]

Arnold is considered THE most difficult of all tenor roles

[@hectorhugomoyano9518]

GENIAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jmiller05]

I think this is one of the more difficult tenor roles alongside Arrigo in I Vespri (which has a written High D in the duet with Elena).

[@LohengrinO]

Geoffrey Riggs, whom I trust IMMENSELY, says that Arnold and Jean from Le Prophete, are the two most difficult tenor roles ever written

[@jmiller05]

I think in terms of weight and range, Otello is also a very difficult role, very rarely sung well IMO.

[@LohengrinO]

@@jmiller05 Otello not included in Geoffrey's list... after the two mentioned a bove he places: Agorante, Pirro, Antenore and Polyeucte...

[@trilobit4]

Maestro Gedda shocked me. I always knew he was a top-class tenor. But I didn't know it was that his level was as incredible. His versatility, his incredible language skills are unbelievable. He can sing softer than anyone else (soft as Gigli - incredible). On the other hand, his voice may be ringing that I cannot believe. Sure, people say he didn't have a sweet timbre like Luciano. I think it's nonsense. - absolute nonsense. He had a timbre of Gedda -very touching and exceptional. In places where Domingo screams like a jackal, Gedda goes to the piano. One does not even notice. I know, they should not be compared. Gedda is a lyric tenor, and Domingo should be more spinto. I cannot help myself - excuse me, please.

[@tarikbairu1648]

Wonderful Gedda❤️

[@elsaasta5164]

Veramente spettacolare questo Artista.. Nicolai Gedda un Tenore dalla voce meravigliosamente duttile ed i suoi acuti belli, limpidi e assai potenti. Ho voluto ascoltare questo spezzone più volte e sinceramente, a mio semplice parere, trovo la sua voce ed il suo timbro così divinamente trascinanti. Caro Lohengrin0, anche se so benissimo di essere ripetitiva, non posso fare a meno di ringraziarti per le tue azzeccate scelte!! Vuoi dirmi per favore in una parola che cosa significa quando tu fai risaltare la dicitura " TENORE ASSOLUTO"?? Ti saluto affettuosamente.. Elsa 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@LohengrinO]

Questo ruolo "Arnold", dovrebbe essere il ruolo tenore più difficile mai scritto ... è quasi impossibile cantare

[@elsaasta5164]

@@LohengrinO... Infatti anche nella mia più totale ignoranza... Ho rilevato un qualcosa... ch'è particolare questo suo modo di cantare tutto il brano con una voce altissima.. non mi so spiegare pienamente ed esaustivamente... però tu mi capisci.. molto bello anzi bellissimo!! Ciao grande Lohengrin.. Elsa

[@jasonhurd4379]

A singer's singer who was comfortable and convincing in the widest range of repertoire: Bach, Händel, Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Verdi, Bizet, Rossini, Wagner...no other tenor is as protean in his rep as Gedda. His Strauss and Lehar operettas with Schwarzkopf have never been surpassed, and his Messiah under Klemperer is gorgeous. The only recording of his that is less than stellar is the Cosi under Colin Davis; he was certainly not himself when that was taped. A musicianly and stylish singer.

[@LohengrinO]

...and lets not forget his Turco in Italia and his Carmen with Callas

[@jasonhurd4379]

@@LohengrinO Indeed!

[@beachfanatic2010]

I get confuse sometimes to categorize his voice type! Sometimes I believe he is a real Spinto but then I listen to his Mozart and ia far from a Spinto voice. Long story short I believe he was not only an extremely talented BUT also an extremely disciplined FULL LYRIC TENOR. His voice was always in great shape! Even though he had a heck of a lot of squillo in the upper register, the middle voice simply did not make the cut in terms of size to be a real Spinto. A current non-operatic tenor that has a similar effect on me is DAVID PHELPS cause he gives me Spinto alarma but he is trully a full lyric tenor that is extremely talented and in great vocal shape.

[@aetion]

Is there anywhere the term uploader assoluto? That's you!

[@LohengrinO]

ahahhahahahahahahah

[@PhilosophicalDance]

Kunde does a really good job in this. Two versions 21 years a part. 1994: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ65pWBvncien80 2010: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4uZiYquhcaKh5o. The audience in the 1994 is really loving it. Listen to that high note before the cabaletta.

[@LohengrinO]

...ah thank you for this

[@jefolson6989]

Great as this is - he is much better on a highlights recording with Ernst Blanc as Tell. Angel/EMI as I recall.

[@davidmolina7543]

It's the same recording with Caballe.

[@pammyjones1151]

Did'nt George Thill record this? Sang it beautifully too... 😚

[@huaxyacak2462]

Que aria es? Si alguien me puede decir

[@valeb4946]

Did you eve listen to Gianni Raimondi? A real great tenor, very underrated, one of my favourites. Heard him many times at la Scala in Milan. His Tell (in Italian) was quite at a level with Gedda - sometimes even better. Live in Naples 1966: look at kzbin.info/www/bejne/aICsqaCuadeqhNU

[@pennyaltiparmaki1793]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@pammyjones1151]

Never one of my favourites, I don't know why that should be.....sings well here......thanks 😘

[@LohengrinO]

Arnold is supposed to be the most difficult tenor role ever written... extremely difficult

[@SilverSingingMethod]

His voice is squeezed and noisy. Not fully clear. And he spreads the vowels and sticks it in his nose a lot.

[@LohengrinO]

@@SilverSingingMethod this role is incredibly difficult... cant imagine any other than perhaps Corelli singing it this well..

[@SilverSingingMethod]

@@LohengrinO Gedda might hit the notes which are high, but I don't care for the quality of his voice because of the things I stated. My teacher's brother could sing it as well as some other old tenors of the past. Yes, Corelli was very good in this also.

[@LohengrinO]

@@SilverSingingMethod Corelli has sung Arnold? are you sure? I highly doubt it

[@robertharris7502]

Where are these d flats you're hearing? The highest thing I heard him sing was a C. You might want to get whatever you used to determine those pitches checked.

[@LohengrinO]

my Ear always misses one semitone, sorry

[@jasonhurd4379]

@@LohengrinO I am exactly the same way, only the other direction: I hear things a semitone lower than they actually are. I attribute it to decades of listening to recordings of period instruments, which are often played at A=415 rather than A=440 or 442.

[@PeterBrodie]

Well those Cs aren't so shabby either! Especially that final one which lasts for about 2 minutes! Excuse me, I have no sense of time - this music is eternal anyway, so it doesn't really matter.😲😂

[@jasonhurd4379]

@@PeterBrodie Quite right! Gedda always had a strong upper register. Reminds me that he first gained acclaim singing the top Ds in Adam's Postillon du Longjumeau.

[@LohengrinO]

@@PeterBrodie ... it lasted for about an hour for me Peter :p

[@OrpheuCe]

Ds in Puritani ....here Cs