Home fire alarm system install. Notifier NFS-320, Detectors, L-series, and annunciator (Part 5)

[@firealarm421]

You’ve done an amazing job getting your home system set up. I can’t wait to see the testing process soon

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you!

[@mewing-gawd]

time for the smoke alarms to say goodbye

[@mykabeinortas9270]

Indeed I would rather a commercial fire alarm instead of smoke alarms

[@CJP_Productions]

@@mykabeinortas9270Ong bro, smoke alarms annoying as hell bruh

[@HAMmicrowaveRADIO]

Smoke alarms aren't bad but when you get offered for a commercial fire alarm system, you now own a system of Frisbees

[@Dilsonalarmsandelectrics]

That’s kind of funny.

[@DanTDMJace]

Smoke alarms: Why do I hear boss music?

[@CGray1234]

I know I say this a lot, but seriously, this whole series is AWESOME

[@That_2_guy2T]

Yes i love it!

[@thetoffeetable]

This system looks awesome! Good job. I can't wait for the panel programming and first system test. Keep up the good work.

[@YourLocalFireAlarmTech]

another great install video man! I just got my FAL and I'm fixing to be Notifier certified. Excited for it. I can't wait to install a system for my mother hopefully soon enough. I wanna learn to bend conduit and flush mount all the rough in so I can do a clean job haha. As of right now my demo systems are all surface mount in my hobby room. Your cable management in the panel is clean btw! Very satisfying. Excited to see the programming and testing portion!

[@BSH_Railfan]

Excellent job on this install, I can’t wait to see it fully finished

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you, glad you were enjoying. more videos to come soon

[@Dilsonalarmsandelectrics]

I want to thank you, Nick, when I started watching the channel when I came in the fire alarm hubby, I was a noob at wiring up alarms when I started watching your videos to help me now I can wire up Wire up whole fire alarm systems thanks, Nic

[@nics-systems-electric]

That's awesome I'm glad I could help. And thank you for watching and the support!

[@dutchwolf2675]

Excellent job! Project looks great! Can’t wait for testing

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you more videos to come soon

[@Firealarmcollectorpeople_1]

Yesss great job you never really get 2 see a video like this

[@nics-systems-electric]

Glad you liked it!

[@EncryptingJava]

I have really enjoyed watching the process of you installing this system; I can't wait to see the testing process! Excellent work so far, I'm sure it will turn out amazing.

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you very much!

[@Time_For_Safety]

Awesome! I can't wait for the full system test.

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you. It will be coming soon!

[@ulises5369]

Nice install man! can't wait for the testing/programming videos

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you I appreciate it, more videos to come soon!

[@UKsystems]

love the video can't wait until everything is finished

[@KaelonRobinson]

Can’t wait to see this system up and running and future system tests

[@nics-systems-electric]

Coming soon

[@leafmk]

It's almost finished stay determined, Nic!

[@nics-systems-electric]

Getting there

[@Firealarmcollectorperson]

Really nice job! Looking really good!!

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thanks

[@firesign89]

Yay I’ve been waiting for this!!!

[@Granth_Man]

Wow I’m watching this at 19 mins uploaded 🎉 love your videos you are very informative 😮

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you I'm glad you are enjoying!

[@baseballlion1615]

I’m actually ready for the first test I bet it’s the sound is awesome you are doing good.

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you. I think people will like it for sure hopefully it sounds good

[@FireAlarmsOfPensacolaFlorida]

Amazing!! One of the best ive ever seen.

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you

[@michellebertrand7702]

Installing EOL plates would make for a good video in my opinion.

[@elevatingaroundtown]

Your dogs make this video my top 10. They are hilarious

[@SmokeSignalStudios]

With those system sensor devices, I believe that in the instructions it says when mounting on a backbox to flip the mounting bracket around. The way you have it I believe is for surface mounting

[@nics-systems-electric]

Been installing them for years and have worked on multiple sites new construction never heard of that or seen that. it would not go on to the mounting bracket at all if it was reversed

[@EYL8902]

Awesome! Keep it up, its looking nice!

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you I appreciate it

[@ForTheBirbs]

You definitely need a good ratchet crimper for terminals to go with your other good tools

[@Plant20-12]

Employer: where did you get your training . Me: this vid

[@CG-1000-T]

The system you are installing is very similar to what replaced the old system at my school only my school has a conventional system since that is what used to be there and my school is flipping tiny. The panel is an FCI S3 that is in the worst location for a panel, a high traffic hallway that is as wide as a non walk in closet, the panel is a flush mount but had a surface mount install. The old panel was the rare FCI FC-72 which worked perfectly and could be easily expanded if they could get an extra zone cards. The old system had a ton of character but it lost it all when it got replaced. It was quite scary when it went off but now it sounds lame. It was a mix and match but not anymore, the only signs of what it was is the very old simplex heat detectors.

[@enricodigi]

Nice install!

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thanks!

[@FireTech7]

Getting that annunciator to work was fun lol

[@That_2_guy2T]

Lol

[@nics-systems-electric]

Yeah totally… I don't think the piezos were loud enough trying to get it going on the phone either lol

[@HenBasketFireAlarms]

It’s all coming together nicely. Also, those heats in the attic are high temp fixed, not rate of rise

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you yes I figured that out about the heat detectors they will need to be changed out

[@siphonralarms9411]

It’s been really entertaining watching this project come along! Those things that you called ZipIts are what we call Wall Anchors here in the US.

[@nics-systems-electric]

We have wall anchors too that's different than different zipits

[@siphonralarms9411]

@@nics-systems-electric ah I see. My dad always called them wall anchors, so I went with what he said.

[@That_2_guy2T]

Ok this is very cool!

[@firetruckstrainsandroblox]

4:58 Yup, In the US You will see some alarms and smoke dubbed EOL which means the Resistor is on the Alarm, Not in a separate plate like in Canada.

[@jaredw83]

36:58 the wiring looks awesome Nic

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you I appreciate that

[@UKsystems]

if you wanted to link to the garage you could use two conventional monitor modules triggered by relays on each panel then use a keyswitch to disable for testing that changes over to an eol resistor when off so no faults.

[@nics-systems-electric]

Yes you could do that the problem is that fire alarm condition is always latching so you'd need to silence and reset both systems and that is why I'd do supervisory set as resettable so it would not require both systems to be reset

[@trainfan4014]

Amazing video!

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you

[@ChrisTopher284765490]

Beautiful Job Nic.

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you very much

[@Camporito25]

Awesome!

[@Caleb_holcomb11]

You should do home fire drills and home fire alarm tests !!

[@KanoaDeCastro]

Part 6: Durability testing the original smoke alarms.

[@rocket4890]

I LOVE his videos so much he should have more subscribers

[@That_2_guy2T]

For real

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you I'm glad you enjoy!

[@rocket4890]

@@nics-systems-electric can’t wait for the next vid

[@ILVT_Plumbing]

you should durability test the old smoke alarms

[@ForTheBirbs]

I like the name of zipit. I just know them as plasterboard screw anchors

[@Musiocmonkeh]

I like your vids👍✅

[@MohinurAlt]

Your dog is very cute

[@CJ9899]

Wow. Just wow

[@egg1787]

Thank you for replying but I’m still confused as to what im supposed to use to mount my dress panel hinges to the backbox so what would you suggest to use sorry for sounding like a broken record but im still really confused as to what to use exactly and need help as im trying to get this panel mounted on my demo board as fast as I can hopefully by New Year’s Eve

[@nics-systems-electric]

They take a type of spring loaded flat blade screw that has wings on the one end that clip into a metal piece in the panel I don't know of anywhere you could buy them they are supposed to be attached to your dress panel

[@roblox_kidyt5039]

Questions: 1. What are you going to do about carbon monoxide? Will there be carbon monoxide detectors? 2. If yes to above, will they put the panel in supervisory? 3. Will this system be connected to a security system? Finally, 4. Will there be a dialer?

[@nics-systems-electric]

No carbon monoxide detectors as there is no danger of it and there is no security system and no dialler because there are no phone lines in the house nor do monitoring companies except residential customers other than self monitored where they will tell you your system is an alarm with a text message but I already do that with my own set up in the garage system

[@roblox_kidyt5039]

@@nics-systems-electricThank you very much for responding!

[@owenweber5527]

nicely done nic I love the installation. Quick question for you have you and your company ever been hired to do any strip mall fire alarm installs? I know thats the only installs that we have been hired out to do with the company I work for. Good thing my partner is nicet certified lol

[@nics-systems-electric]

I've only worked in Schools

[@laureno7757]

Did you use drywall and how was you able to install smoke detectors in the smoke alarms spots and putting the wire in those spots?

[@nics-systems-electric]

I have three videos roughing in everything for the system

[@OkieSlotsGamingOffical]

Dog is like if I walk under the ladder I get bad luck 16:37

[@jacobflanigan6343]

When fire alarm technicians program addressable devices, do they skip point 13 and go straight from 12 to 14?

[@nics-systems-electric]

No never heard of that

[@mimi2]

How come the panel didn't power when you connected the batteries? Also, did you remember to fix the duplicate detector addresses? Also the doggos are amazing.

[@nics-systems-electric]

It shouldn't power up on batteries really old panels will but nothing modern it needs AC first before it will switch over to battery if the panel is running on battery and you unplug them it won't go back on when you replug unless you give it AC and then take it away

[@gest319]

Is it possible to wire an addressable pull station directly to a horn strobe without needing a fir panne?

[@nics-systems-electric]

No not with addressable

[@bottlerat2318]

my school just recently replaced their fire alarm system with new devices and used a lot of the ones shown in the video

[@nics-systems-electric]

Nice

[@egg1787]

Hi nic I have a notifier panel and was wondering what screws do I need for mounting the dress plates to the back box I’ve searched everywhere on the internet for an answer and still have no clue as to what type of screw i need

[@nics-systems-electric]

If it's a onyx panel they don't take screws they are clips

[@egg1787]

Thank you very much do you have any suggestion as to what clips I should buy

[@eDoc2020]

Again I don't know Canadian but I don't think the incoming Lumex ground going straight into the panel is proper. If the panel is removed now the enclosure and all your devices lose their ground bond. I believe best practice would be running the incoming ground to a dedicated point on the enclosure like you would do for any other electrical box.

[@nics-systems-electric]

Yes the Can should be bonded before going into the power supply it wasn't at the time of the video as I didn't have the nut for the stud or a ground bar I've sense have added a ground bar threaded into the can where all the bonds come to and the ground conductor from the Lummex goes through first

[@rodgodx345]

did u swap the negative and the positive position? the heat detector in the attic?

[@nics-systems-electric]

There is no polarity it is just a open contact that closes upon activation

[@rodgodx345]

what do u mean?@@nics-systems-electric

[@nics-systems-electric]

@@rodgodx345 conventional devices that do not need power to operate do not require positive negative to be in a certain orientation it does not matter

[@rodgodx345]

oh okay then good work on the system :)@@nics-systems-electric

[@firealarmdiscovery]

I have some blank plates I could see if I could ship one or two to you or a PO box of yours. Just pay shipping?

[@nics-systems-electric]

I appreciate that. I do not currently have one but it's something I may try and get a some point.

[@cameronbyrne7970]

Are you going to be doing the monthly test just like in the garage?

[@nics-systems-electric]

I would think so

[@cameronbyrne7970]

@@nics-systems-electric nice

[@JackieBright]

17:00 bro knows its bad luck to walk under a ladder

[@demontejohnson2912]

Should also had put low frequency sounderbases in the rooms

[@nics-systems-electric]

As long as there is 75 dB it is fine. sounder bases require verifier tools to program.

[@dabitzz]

the end of line in the detector is fine here in the us, as i see fire alarm devices in the us that have EOL written on them in sharpie

[@captainchris2016]

This is an addressable system which does not need resistors for the slc circuit and in fact could fry the panel or the slc if a resistor is used. But resistors are needed for the nacs.

[@HenBasketFireAlarms]

@@captainchris2016you obviously haven’t watched the video. Nic had conventional detectors in the attic

[@captainchris2016]

​@@HenBasketFireAlarms1. I watched the video. 2. I thought he was talking about the other detectors

[@nics-systems-electric]

Yes it's a Canadian requirement where if there is more than one device requiring end of line supervision the end of line device is supposed to be in its own box and cover. end of line resistor should not hurt the panel it should not be left there but when doing swap overs it's pretty common for the SLC to be powered up with end of lines still in place

[@Max_And_His_Tech]

Is the security light on toe panel so you can wire up a security panel and have it monitored with the FACP

[@nics-systems-electric]

It's used for tamper switches on annunciators fire hose cabinets fire phones etc. not to monitor a security system but to monitor components of the fire alarm system that could be opened that shouldn't be unless it's an emergency

[@Max_And_His_Tech]

Ok i thought it was strange for a FACP to have a security light

[@m_lopez8272]

I normally just cut the crimp terminal in half for the other positive terminal.

[@nics-systems-electric]

Yeah I've done that a lot myself these L-series mounting brackets don't seem to be very friendly for that as they have that plastic chunk in the way which forces it to not be inserted very far kind of a pain

[@egg1787]

So sorry I know I’m going on and on but I should have probably been more specific what I was talking about were the two screws on the bottom and top of the dress plate not the spring loaded screw in the middle I already have one of those I just need the screws for the hinge itself I have an adp-4 and a dia 2020 both of which use 2 hinge screws without them I can’t keep those in place or open them up

[@nics-systems-electric]

They might be 6-32 machines screws

[@egg1787]

Many thanks

[@cameronbyrne7970]

Nice

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thanks

[@cameronbyrne7970]

@@nics-systems-electric your welcome

[@adamcrane1436]

Hello ​@@nics-systems-electric

[@demontejohnson2912]

Are you going to connect the house and the garage to one system?

[@nics-systems-electric]

no the house and the garage both have their own separate systems that may eventually be connected together for supervisory only

[@Eric_Rosen]

how does your family like the system?

[@nics-systems-electric]

They don't care it's better than what was there before

[@a.r.aproductions1569]

I think the stupidest this is in the States, our 5600 series detectors don’t have the identifier ring/dot on them. They only write the temp on the side. So if it’s high up, there’s so way to tell

[@nics-systems-electric]

Really!?! I had no idea I thought that was normal for everywhere that is stupid it's a nice feature to be able to identify what you're testing quickly even addressable detectors often have that

[@marksmith-ew7ir]

We call your zipets in England dry wall screw plugs.

[@nics-systems-electric]

Yeah I've heard a lot of different names for them not sure what the proper one is lol

[@Reidsbusesanditems]

Do you know where you bought the alarms?

[@nics-systems-electric]

Yes I know where I purchased items from they came from eBay

[@ministrygreene2556]

Nic your doing great on the systems all so tell hayden hi for me please

[@nics-systems-electric]

Thank you

[@haydenmcgregs]

Nic said you said hi so I thought I’d come say hi back

[@GaryBeltz]

Is Jackson a puppy? He looks like the same breed as Ayla but smaller.

[@nics-systems-electric]

No he's like 13 years old not the same breed

[@fixitfaxit4006]

Wow

[@novawarningsirens]

I can get you a copy of verifier tools if you would like. (Its 8.5, which requires no license, and I got it from a friend of mine, the friend said I can give it out if needed be)

[@Big_Noob-ROBLOX]

Was the panel used to be a demo system nic??

[@nics-systems-electric]

Yes

[@Big_Noob-ROBLOX]

@@nics-systems-electric Oh

[@matrix2048]

The only thing I can think of that's missing is a blue strobe outside.

[@nics-systems-electric]

The system isn't being installed to CAN/ULC s537 as it's not a legally required commercial system so it does not require a annunciation strobe

[@adamcrane6306]

Hello NIC’S - SYSTEMS & ELECTRIC

[@Dilsonalarmsandelectrics]

What the dog doing?

[@AndrewIsAwesome882]

16:52 Is that your dog? What's it's name? What breed is it?

[@bnsf988]

Have you destroyed the crossing

[@nics-systems-electric]

No

[@stevenbarber2703]

are you gonna tie the alarm system in the garage to the house

[@stevenbarber2703]

@@SimplexEAS2019oh ok

[@dutchwolf2675]

@@SimplexEAS2019why

[@nics-systems-electric]

It is not illegal at all in fact it's very common for multiple buildings to be tied to the same system. If it's one system for multiple buildings SLC Hass to be isolated at each building and each building needs its own NAC circuit and if it's a networked system with each building having its own it Hass to be capable of providing full function for the building even in the event the network fails it has to operate as the local system still. As far as what I'm doing I will not be tying it in for alarm but may tie it in for supervisory eventually.

[@prodigygamer1418]

50:17 rip Kidde smoke alarms

[@nics-systems-electric]

What? The video was over 8 minutes ago.

[@Firealert101]

What’s the difference between class A and class B

[@nics-systems-electric]

Class B goes out on two wires and stops at that last device if it's conventional it will be supervised with an end of line resistor and class A whether it's conventional or addressable goes out on two wires through every device just like class B but then has two wires that return back to the panel after the last device making a loop

[@Wilby1977]

I am an idiot but when you set the furnace detector to 01 then the bedroom to 02 you also set another detector to 02 as well. Again I am stupid.

[@Wilby1977]

You are awesome love watching your videos.

[@EASsirenVids01]

24:00 😂

[@RMA2009]

24:01 Why the long face?

[@The09creeper]

This doesn’t make sense to me I would have thought a security system would have worked better and been more user friendly. I think this is a bit overkill especially with the capacity/capabilities of the panel

[@nics-systems-electric]

Definitely not more user friendly I actually find them much worse plus I'm not aware of any addressable security systems so that alone is a deal breaker. Security system are cheap that's the only advantage but the cheap price is reflected in the quality.

[@gest319]

Will you ever make a titkok page?

[@nics-systems-electric]

I have a personal one but as far as KZbin related no I don't want to have to manage any more social media platforms than KZbin and Instagram

[@rodgodx345]

Hey if I give u $100 bucks will u come to my house and do it 😂

[@SEBASTIAN6TECH]

ABCD e FGA charger. QSQ free W. Yes. Y and z, now I know my ABC's next fine. Won't you sing with me?