Niemann loses to 13 year old | Hans Niemann vs Andy Woodward | U20 World Junior Championship 2023

GM Daniel King examines the game Hans Niemann vs Andy Woodward from the U20 World Junior Championship 2023. Support on Patreon: 🔥 / powerplaychess ►Support via PayPal: www.paypal.com...
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[@michaelf8221]

I finished playing an OTB game in a Dallas tournament, and saw a small kid (maybe 12) sitting by himself analyzing his own game in silence. Figuring it would be nice to be social and help analyze with the kid, I ask him how his game went. Within 30 seconds I could tell that not only was I not the gracious benefactor offering to help this kid, but he was clearly a strong master with deep theory, good calculation skills, and a eye towards improvement. I got a free lesson from Andy Woodward that day, and I believe he'll make GM sooner rather than later!

[@niconiconiconico]

Great story, thanks for sharing!

[@RangeWilson]

White's h4 shows the danger in reflexively following computer recommendations. Computers are spectacular defenders, and as such, are able to uncover the only line where the King staggers around to safety somewhere. For humans, though, leaving huge holes in your position with your King stuck in the middle is a recipe for disaster. It didn't take long for Niemann's position to collapse.

[@PowerPlayChess]

h4 is a good move, but it raised the stakes...

[@markjordan8919]

Andy Woodward is already much stronger than his rating would suggest, which is usually the way with talented juniors, and I'd expect him to be 2600+ within the next 3 years or so and with the GM title under his belt. The rating disparity means very little in these circumstances and Niemann would have been aware that Woodward is a very dangerous opponent. It seems to me that Niemann reached the end of his preparation and simply chose the wrong plan with 19.b5 and 20.Qa4 and Woodward took his opportunity and didn't let it slip. An interesting game throughout.

[@med017784]

Guess in no more that 2 years, in 3 should be in 2700 … or not

[@nikospao5189]

he had 98% accuracy.

[@andriimishchenko8284]

This "pushing to the limit" reminds me online blitz, when people often play deliberately aggressively without paying attention to the position too much. Few moves by Niemann in this game has reminded me about it.

[@nomoreblitz]

Great coverage!

[@LateCloser]

This was a nice introduction to IM Woodward. I don't think I had ever heard of him, before this. I'm always happy to see another strong American player appear. Of course, at 13, I'll now wonder if he disappears when he becomes old enough for college like so many strong American players wisely do. Very calm play. Impressive. Thanks.

[@chrisestiverne1194]

A bit of a shame that any classical loss will be focused more on Hans's history versus Andy's beautiful attacking play. Clearly underrated.

[@chessandmusicwithoskiez6241]

100 percent agree

[@Syllaren]

It's honestly disrespectful to his achievements. "See this is what he plays like without cheats" while he played as usual and this incredible 13yo pushed to victory against a pretty highly placed person on the world ranks. This kid played beautifully and doesn't deserved to have his victory robbed by "he must have turned off the cheats"

[@benconover72]

Superb game by Woodward.

[@TylerWx]

Another channel which did a breakdown of this said Andy's accuracy in the game was 97 or 98% and Niemann's was in the 90s also. It's not like Niemann just lost to someone because he's bad or something as I'm sure many of his detractors would like to say. The younger player did great. Edit: 12:00 And yeah, seems like Niemann had opportunities to simplify and go for a draw. This is actually one of the things that he's said about himself in past interviews that he needs to learn to go for a draw when needed instead of continuing to take chances that could lead to a loss.

[@firebug3256]

These new kids are bringing back uncompromising attacking chess. It's great to see.

[@itskmillz]

Attacking chess is cool but Neimann just opened his front door and gave Woodward the combination to his safe in this game

[@vlnow]

But the game was interesting. More a reflection of how good this opponent really is on a good day, than some kind of shade on Hans's mad skills on his good days. Perpetual Chess podcast has a great interview with Hans. When i first heard it i had never heard of him. But i was convinced i would hear a lot about him in the future.

[@Day-wm7nn]

IM speaks for himself

[@ig2d]

Quick shout-out to the fact that this comp was inaugurated by Ritson-Morry in Birmingham/Coventry in 1951 and it was won in 1974 in Manila by the late great Anthony Miles.

[@vibovitold]

Very interesting (and instructive) game. I looked the final standings up - Niemann finished 11th, actually ahead of Woodward (30th). According to the computer, Woodward played it almost flawlessly - lichess evalutes his accuracy as 97% (Niemann: 90%). The engine thinks White is actually kind of fine up until the quite natural 32. h5 (still only at minus 1.0 before that, which reflects being down a pawn), which tries to cash the h-pawn out, but vacates the g5 square for Black rook, and things go downhill from there. 39. Bc2 was the final mistake, because after 39 ... Qc3 the position is beyond salvation. Even with best play White has to at least give up the Bishop.

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[@RoyGazoff]

Daniel is a great observer

[@Whykonen]

Nice video title, you got to work on that to let more players enjoy this content

[@PowerPlayChess]

It’s quite funny that when I occasionally think of a title which (I hope) will gather more views through being perhaps funny or controversial, then I get comments along the lines that I am ‘selling out’! I’m not comfortable wearing a hair-shirt and living like a monk…

[@Whykonen]

@@PowerPlayChess its fine to play the algorithm, not the individuals. As in chess play the board, not the opponent

[@johnfarragut2185]

Ignore the nattering naysayers. Your videos are fabulous and can’t be clickbait because they’re worth the click.

[@huddunlap3999]

Nice to see Han's playing.

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[@yvesdelombaerde5909]

4 isolated pawns vs 5 pawn in 2 chains, castle destroyed

[@TessaTestarossa]

"When you say A, you must also say B" is what my chess teachers used to say. Congratulations to Andy, cold-bloodedly punishing Hans' queenside meanderings.

[@xl000]

Can you run LC0 on an Esp32 / Arduino nano?

[@user-yv5kr3tz8g]

At 12:08 what happens after black plays Dh3?

[@tonysu8860]

Very nice commentary but IMO probably more for the intermediate and higher level players. Although I consider myself in those groups, I wouldn't have minded some comments to benefit the more beginning players that would have covered more basic concepts like the decision by white to occupy the center beyond the comment about the c4-d3-e4 complex, necessity to stabilize and solidify before a wing attack (h4-h5) can be executed and that Black successfully exposed the white king by counterattacking in the middle. Of course the concrete tactics are all due to the talent of these specific players but beginners should be reminded continuously of the strategical concepts. As always, this channel chooses and provides excellent commentary on notable games.

[@skakdosmer]

Queen, Rook and Bishop all in Siberia!

[@yudistiraliem135]

Ironically Niemann plays like older Ai on pocket computer grabbing all the pawns and plays very agressively abandoning their positional safety.

[@timurmukhamed2547]

It seems Niemann didn't use his stockfish this time!

[@thomasschulte9052]

I like the channel, however, starting with the moves while still giving background information is very distracting. In this video it was especially bad. I guess comments about the game as such started with move 15 :(

[@roqsteady5290]

Somehow the Sveshnikov doesn't look so dodgy when you play it as black

[@lollycopter]

I think a part of that is to do with psychology as well as other more solid choices for white - drawing or losing with black is seen as more palatable than doing the same with white. I went into my most recent otb game without fear (but still ample caution) against a stronger (junior) opponent with the black pieces (me) and was ready to take him on with the Sicilian. Alas, he played 1.d4 so I played for a Nimzo which transposed into a Ragozin and I won that game quite comfortably. Had I had the white pieces, the pressure might have been on me to not lose, and I certainly would have avoided a reverse Sicilian given the other choices available.

[@shubakarthik]

Neimann is strong when he plays with black pieces but with white he is taken for a ride

[@xl000]

Nonsense

[@shubakarthik]

@@xl000 Hans defeated Magnus with black pieces

[@vibovitold]

@@xl000 I don't know if his overall statistics support that hypothesis, but in this particular tournament it definitely looked that way. he had 6 games with white and 5 with black. out of 6 games with white he scored a clear-cut 50% with +2 =2 -2. but out of 5 games played with black, he scored +4 =1 -0. so maybe there is something to it. maybe playing with black forces him to be more balanced and as a result perform better.

[@ChessJourneyman]

He was stuck in the 2400-2500 range until he magically skyrocketed to 2700 faster than any chess player ever. So it's no surprise he's losing to IMs when under scrutiny.

[@prostre7005]

He is under scrutiny since he won against Carlsen. So why didn`t he fell back in the 2400-2500 range, although he played a lot OTB? If he wins, it is because of cheating, if he loses, this proves he cheated in the past. This is circular reasoning.

[@itskmillz]

@@prostre7005 Yes the Neimann effect, I guess just don't cheat right?

[@prostre7005]

We can agree on that. Btw: why are so many misspelling his name, is this an American thing?@@itskmillz

[@THEBOYDALEK]

@@prostre7005Well if he hadn’t been such a knob in the first place…….

[@THEBOYDALEK]

@@itskmillzExactly

[@jamiethomas3122]

Andy is no fool and came prepared with an EMP device.

[@Hector-Truth_Finder]

😂😂😂 Best comment ever!

[@wellutopia2237]

Kramnik is the only chess player who isnt a coward and willing to call out cheating and cheaters. Its making me lose passion to play or even watch.

[@vibovitold]

in case of Nakamura he took it too far. ironically it's the same Kramnik who got accused of cheating without any concrete evidence

[@joseraulcapablanca8564]

It seems a bit unfair on the worlds other talented juniors, and chess players in general, that Niemann get so much attention because of his cheating. He is of course talented but so of course are many honest players. A very well played game from Woodward. A pawn down then the exchange Dow, a very resourceful defensive effort. Thanks Daniel

[@georgesduroy410]

Niemann gets "so much attention" because of the the unfair targeting that he received -- plus the unethical practice of several "content-creators" i.e. profit-seeking chess players to get views out of it. Your comment is distorting reality.

[@joseraulcapablanca8564]

@@georgesduroy410 in what way does it distort reality? He is a cheat, a liar, and a thief. I am unsure what unfair targeting you are trying to allude to.

[@davemathew]

Yeah but he's making $$ off the notoriety he got from the cheating scandal.

[@joseraulcapablanca8564]

@@davemathew that is exactly the problem for me. Why should he gain while other good young players who are honest do not.

[@Syllaren]

​@@joseraulcapablanca8564he nearly lost his entire fing career over this crap. This was 100% put into motion by magnus, and it almost banned him from ever being able to make a living off of chess. Being able to cash in on the attention is the least repayment he can get, you know excluding how much the undisclosed payment chesscom and magnus had to give him over slander was. If there was proof of him cheating, they wouldn't have even tried to settle.

[@lumberjack3008]

It's harder to play without computer assistance.

[@med017784]

Its Even more easy to “write”without any brain… or not…

[@prostre7005]

It's easier so insinuate than to come up with an argument, not to talk about proof.

[@user-bj7um9uj6r]

​@@prostre7005his rating from 2700+ goes down to 2600+ after the security tigthens...even he played lower rated player he should at least make a draw and not losing points

[@chessandmusicwithoskiez6241]

Andy Woodward is the real 🐐 among us young chess players

[@sprzrz573]

Why doesn't Niemann play as good as he "played" against Kramnik and Carlsen most of the time? Why only on special occasions? Have you ever met a genuine GM whose strength varies from one game to another in an instant? Haven't you ever thought that the words "Chess speaks for itself" are something that only could have come from someone like O'Henry's Andy Tucker.

[@michaelblankenau6598]

Yes . I’ve met many GMs whose strength varies from one game to another . What’s your point .

[@tonysu8860]

I don't think that a player necessarily plays at a lower level, but the choices that are made in any particular game may be related to the opponent. So, for instance I could believe that one might play more aggressively and expect to win against 13 year old Andy Woodward than against a Carlsen or Kramnik, both proven to play at global elite levels.

[@erikskov8759]

@@michaelblankenau6598 Who???

[@RandomGuyOnYoutube601]

@@tonysu8860 He literally self-destructed. What was even the point of the final "attack". That desperate attempt seemed almost trivial to defend for black. Niemann always pushing to the limit? Lol.

[@jodymccullough5891]

As a longtime fan of Aronian, let me tell you, there are some great GMs and even Super GMs that play inconsistently, sometimes even at games within the same tournament. When Aronian is playing well he doesn't pay attention to material and can beat anyone. When playing badly he will just make you scratch your head and wonder what on earth happened to him.

[@landilevanaj3499]

Hahaha is a Hans without stockfish wrong muvs wrong timing 😅

[@RaymondRossell]

4:20 "If you feed this into your computer - *COUGH* - excuse me - it will tell you that this is the best move" -> maybe Elon Musk was correct with his vibrator theory HAHAHAHA

[@TearTheRoof0ff]

I guess there were no beads... of sweat on the brow of the teenager.

[@theguardian308]

Showing Hans is like showing Kanye play chess, it’s not for the game but for the controversy. Once a cheat, always a cheat

[@synchronium24]

You're the only one here making a controversy out of it.

[@theguardian308]

The game speaks for itself

[@michaelblankenau6598]

Once a fool , always a fool .

[@itachi60001]

just for the people that think that using this as proof of hans cheating in the past is reasonable, can you also show the game he played right before this one (same day btw) where he had a positionally brilliant game? thanks.

[@THEBOYDALEK]

Yawn

[@PowerPlayChess]

The first two games were grinds (I don't mean that negatively). Game two was particularly good.

[@joseraulcapablanca8564]

No need to prove he cheated in the past, the proof already exists.

[@nemeczek67]

There was not much buzz about this game.

[@janflasar4756]

woodward probably cheats with better chess programm than niemann :D, just kidding, congratulation to andy

[@philipstevenson5166]

hans needs to be a ceo or something; meritocracy doesn't suit him

[@petervanvelzen1950]

What's with the speed-talking. I find it very annoying.

[@RayScheelhaase-nd9rw]

FLIP THE SCRIPT! THINK! 🔥 Gang of chess cheaters create a chess monopoly to libel their competition of what they themselves are doing