Nier: Automata and the Joy of Movement - MIAMAFV Day 5

[@lozdbzmario]

Nate, in automata all you have to do to get ending E is get C and D. Nothing else. : P

[@Thegigachad248]

Surprised Nate got this part wrong. For shame.

[@Tamacat388]

Dan Savage After listening to the whole video Im not even sure he got the actual ending E or not.

[@lozdbzmario]

He really is the best guy ever.

[@bobothegoat]

It seemed clear to me he's referring to ending y most times he says ending e. That's the one you need all weapons to unlock.

[@BT405]

MIAMAFV is like Guy's One Punch Man workout regimen to become the ultimate KZbinr

[@sargecad3t]

*slow clap*

[@Cybershell13]

Incredible fucking game, and I've been wanting to hear you talk more about it since bring it up on that one PCP.

[@chucktownattack]

Automata pretty much singlehandedly resparked my interest in gaming again. I couldn't fall into a rhythm even though I had so much free time. The flow that this game facilitates is absolutely mind blowing; the player can manipulate the main characters (each with subtle nuances of their own) with the gamepad with such a high degree of precision and freedom that traversing this open world cannot adequately be described in words. You need to boot up a PS4 (or better yet PC) and truly soak it in. So glad you did a video on this and I'm so glad I found this channel when I did. Looking forward to your KH3 content.

[@JackgarPrime]

"The story of Nier 1 was a little obtuse for me" says guy who follows Kingdom Hearts lore.

[@tbutts8986]

Nate if you didn't get ending Y you don't know the REAL super secret boss.

[@valkyriefandango252]

*_The wind_* is starting to change on *_Breath of the Wild_*

[@NoNameToAddress]

Gotta tell You something: This MIAMAFV Thing you are doing? FUCKING GREAT. I know this must be time-consuming and must wreck your nerves. I know your channel won't be like this all the time, but try to do this as regular as possible, say every three months or something like that. Love your stuff.

[@tristanrobbins3974]

indianjit singh the channel Zankoku Tenshi does something similar in October he calls the 31 Nights of Halloween Horror. he makes a video about something horror movie related every night of october. I like it a bit, you should check it out

[@lokiofspirit]

All these videos on topics I haven't seen before. This is like a Genie's wish for me.

[@DeadPig325]

+An amazing world Fuck, we are already at the 4th finger... Tomorrow's will be a curse

[@vullture2]

never fought the 100% final boss because the first time fighting the credits I was so overcome with emotion having everyone else help me that I had to do the same so I deleted my save file. Will eventually get around to 100% the game again, but for now my experience with the game was fantastic and extremely satisfying.

[@SteamClockWork]

Vullture I just beat the game and made the same choice. Thank you for your help. It might not have been direct, but you helped people beat the game and they were able to help me. So really, thank you (and the rest of this game's playerbase) for your help.

[@lute9278]

*Names this video "The joy of Movement* *Doesn't talk about movement until the very end of the video*

[@Tamacat388]

Nice to hear some positive words on Drakengard 3. Everybody shits on that game so hard like it was the worst thing ever. But it was really something special.

[@BHox01]

Hearing you talk about movement reminds me a lot of Melee. That game has the smoothest, nuttiest, craziest movement in any game Ive personally played. Sometimes I just name entry glitch into an infinite time match alone and move. Wavedash, dashdance, edge cancel, etc., there are so many options and so many ways to express yourself. Movement is nutty when done right and I feel weird anymore playing a game with lackluster movement.

[@2ndLookGames]

If you get all 120 shrines in Zelda you do get rewarded with an armor set based on Zelda 1. still not much but something to make my hours of toil worth it. I still really love botw no matter what they say, words can bring me-e down.

[@Peahnuts]

Best guy ever and nier automata 😩👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@darksydeernie]

My man, just hack into a flying enemy to get over to the flooded city chest.

[@raytsh]

You don't have to collect anything nor have you to level up anything to get ending E.

[@Krukmeister]

You can also do Fire+Jump in mid-air to grab your pod and launch yourself forward, it's an attack, but you can use it to gain some extra distance.

[@jbark678]

It took me until last Christmas to play it, but I'm really glad I did. Glad I found your vid on it.

[@Chreis_Art]

If you jump and pod shoot in midair (X and R2 I believe)you'll do a "pod throw" that gives you really good midair distance as well, that's how I ended up getting that chest.

[@Kraigon42]

Sure I enjoyed hearing you talk about it, even if it is a game I won't be playing for years.

[@ApertureNinjas]

Dude, there is a special armor set for clearing every shrine that buffs the master sword.

[@DonChalant]

When he was talking about movement options im surprised he didn't mention that you can press R1 and X at the same time to just vault yourself forward, it pretty much acts as a second air dash.

[@Hikarizu]

That jump you talk about in the watery area. I just glitched my way across in my attempts to do the long jump. Somehow I landed on the side of the building and dashed my way to the top. Happened once with 2B and again with 9S.

[@21aroun]

Hey if you ever want a really good overview of the other endings for Neir you should look at Clemps analysis of the series. He even goes over the other Drakengard games if you want to lean more about the ones that came out before 3.

[@MadouZakura]

for that weapon you had to jump to in the flooded area i basically had the same experience as you but i knew about the spin and it wasn't enough. there is another jump in mid-air that throws you forward: R1+X

[@espada9000]

10:38 Ok I would have been fine by that if they haven't change the gameplay into a button timing pressing simulator instead of making it similar towards Legna final boss fight on Drakengard 2.

[@Derpinator01]

My personal preferred "long jump" method is double jump > pod kick (jump+fire) > dash > air light attacks > glide

[@LordAlexander-x5s]

so happy you made a video on this awesome game.

[@Thegigachad248]

"Normie game journalists" I love you, Nate.

[@BobberWCC]

hey how you doin so far getting tired yet?

[@BobberWCC]

papa bless

[@poipoi9816]

Confirming best guy ever as having best opinions ever.

[@McDudes]

Defeating a difficult challenge in a game is one of the best feelings ever.

[@yunocchiyuphoria1778]

Man, you really need to get all the endings on the first Nier.

[@t.b.m.5718]

For the jump thing, i found that you can 'loop' the jump if you do a 3 hit combo + dash after the spin attack that allows grab the pod again.

[@lalalaLaFlex]

just got ending E today, hell yes. great timing. ty

[@tjwltc]

when you get a chance, I would recommend going through Nier's other routes. they change the game more than Automata's. to unlock D you do have to get all the weapons but you don't need 100% of them leveled up like Drakengard. i think the first Nier might appeal to you more in the full context. it has stronger characters and the emotional payoff in endings C and D is crazy.

[@Noponis]

2B being the thing you expect her to be? Really? Did you not pay attention during ending C/D or not think about it at all? You know, her being an executioner and thus most of her character secretly being her attempts at walling off her feelings for 9S, since she knows she'll have to kill him over and over? Seriously, go through some of the game again or let someone point out some moments to you with that context. Shit hurts. For example the speech about hating god/fate due to being trapped in a cycle is refering to the cycle of 9S getting too curios and her having to kill him time and time again, which is why she hates fate/god. Or when right at the start of the game some NPC points out how often they see you together, indicating that she's killed him a lot of times before the game even began

[@Tamacat388]

BestGuyEver I thought all that obvious mystery surrounding 2B was just a distraction from how crazy 9S was lol. I dont think anybody on planet earth was actually shocked by 2B being more emotional then she lets on. The real mystery is what YoRHa was and learning about the world.

[@usernameunavalible00]

BestGuyEver I don't think she was designated as an Executioner model just in case 9S became infected, the implication was that since 9S had to be so intelligent and "top of the line" to be as effective a hacker as possible, they worried that his model would eventually catch on to the deception of the yorha plan. I thought they were hinting that 2B had killed 9S for that reason before, and just showed us the times she'd killed him during the game to have a greater impact on the player.

[@Tamacat388]

usernameunavalible00 A2 said all B types were Executioner models.

[@usernameunavalible00]

Thanatos388 didn't she only say that all 2B types were Executioner models?

[@GentleMu]

Thanatos388 B models were based on A2, but she only said that 2B was an Executioner, eh? Plus, we see a few other B models in the game, and unlike 2B they use different weapons, and dual wield them. Plus, Jackass points out early on that 2B stands out from other B models, who tend to be relatively dimwitted. Signs point to it being just her, or at least not all B models being E models.

[@Sora-nb7su]

you killed me with the karaoke parts. 10/10

[@Kukadin]

The most interesting thing about Nier: Automata is not that the machines are human, but that the machines becoming human is a great tragedy for them.

[@AlexLopezMan]

and forgot the pod toss, I do it with R1 plus square and x (or at least is how work for me), resulting in do a 360 spin and tossing you a few meters after you can do a spin or dash but only if you don´use it before toss

[@patrickwjrwhateverclips1329]

After I fully 100% complete this game(all endings,clothes,weapons,chips) I did a run where I literally did nothing but use my pod to kill everything.

[@kanvaros4451]

God Bestguyever is so slow to update if he really wants to Miamafav justice he needs to upload 2 episodes a day for an entire month

[@espada9000]

Just wait until Drakengard 4 gets announced. I guarantee that it will be open world and possibly able to create your own character and dragon for the story.

[@4444ez]

you optimized the jumps....i used small sword basic attacks...could never cancel well

[@nemeru3352]

I felt the same, the first playthrough didn't intrigue me enough to try and get to other endings, and see what's really going on

[@Panchius]

Did you ever play Bloodrayne Betrayal?, that game has some great movement, throughout the game you learn about a bunch of tricks you can use to stay in the air for long periods of time, you don't need to use them most of the time, but in the final level there's a huge chasm that you have to cross, and you need to use them all to cross it and it feels really cool

[@night1952]

I still have Drakengard 3 on my to play list, but when i do i'm going to ignore ending e. Basically because it's not a hard boss, it's simply unfair and poorly designed, if i do go for it (maybe for trophy reasons) i won't play it the fair way. Also, i find the weapon lore to be reward enough to 100% all of the weapons in these games

[@KBDirector123]

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[@mrsneed420]

Nate you gotta go beat the endings in Nier, they're worth it

[@mitchki]

uh-TUH-muh-tuh You're the only person I've ever heard pronounce automata that way, anywhere.

[@SaberRexZealot]

mitchki English people use that pronunciation the most I find

[@louis058]

It sounds like you don't know about the "Pod Launch" (at least, that's what I'm calling it, I discovered it by myself), where you hold down Shoot and Jump, and your character will grab the pod, and it will launch you forward a fair distance. Haven't tried it with Flooded City yet, so I don't know how well it will work for that jump.

[@the_echoYT]

I wish more games would focus on satisfying movement. One of the things that makes KHIIFM my favorite game is how much fucking *fun* it is just to move around.

[@Jellordgames]

Great swords let you jump a third time with a hard hit, that’s how I got that treasure right away.

[@Nabuchadnezar]

So about that heavy spoiler at around 23:30. I would appreciate if you gave us just a few seconds after announcing you are gonna spoil something, so that we can stop the video. I would have to be a teenager again to have the reflexes to stop the video in time in this case. I guess I should have taken that vague spoiler warning earlier in the video more seriously. Could someone tell me if there are any more major spoilers in the rest of the video? I´d like to finish it. Thanks!

[@ZerogunRivale]

Great video, but I want to point out a few things: You have a very weird definition of what a tone piece is supposed to do. You seem to think that a work being more about its atmosphere and intellectual content are somehow mutually exclusive. But some of the best tone pieces ever made - Days of Heaven, 2001: A Space Odyssey, and some of the films of Wong Kar Wai - are intellectual pieces precisely because of how they work as tone pieces. The way they use atmosphere to bring life to a certain situation is what allows them to become works that can be studied. As for the 2B/2E twist, the reason why I say it matters is because of how it re-contextualizes her suffering and her mission. The androids, even if they are more human like than the machines, are expected to be emotionless. But not only does this exist for 2B, it doubles down on the expectation for her to be empty. Not only must she be empty, she's also expected to fake that she's met 9S before. This also plays into the games themes of memory. Whereas 9S unwillingly has his memory wiped due to death or whatnot, 2B has to willingly suppress her own memory of him every time. 2B is not merely just an android who can be reprogrammed, but symbolically is doing to herself what is often done to other machines. Rather than actual programming to be a limited android and memory wipes, she as an android has to do it manually. It's not so much about emotional suppression (which is obvious that she's doing), but it's about suppression of the human experience and how much suffering that entails. It all comes out when she's about to die and she - with great ease - calls 9S by "Nines" with a smile on her face, because she actually gets to have a human experience for once.

[@TheeSadHappyMad]

Nate to do a longer jump with 2b n a2 use a spear and light attack in the air.

[@Spyderist]

you'll get better at fast as you keep it up

[@LachlanGB]

Good lord 35:10

[@murilocelebi]

Square Enix are doing just the final fantasies and Dragon Quests. Bravely Second was launched not much time ago, but I think that's from a non-core studio as well.

[@thesamuraiedge]

Drakengard 3 sounded really appealing to me, so I bought it like 2 days after watching this video.

[@acesideburns7815]

Oh shit this dude you beat the final boss without a guide! damn!

[@the120cxx]

So I was working on a project in little big planet 3... and it's basically giving sack boy a bunch of moves. and oddly enough. the results sound a lot like this whole "movement" thing you're really into.

[@pedrogarcia8706]

you actually missed a bit of movement tech. if you hit the pod fire button and jump at the same time, the pod throws you forward.

[@wirefireboy1]

This one was pretty close

[@DonMenelo]

Great video, keep it up ^^ Hint hint you need all weapons @ max lvl for ending Y. Nohate =)

[@mage_ethatre]

Nani?! Nate doesn't upload

[@laumaelinful]

he does

[@xero0015]

that meme doesn't really apply during miamafv

[@tomateunmate]

Considering how you are in the path of being huge and stronk, and work towards being the best boy ever; I would love to see your feelingson Ore Monogatari. You can watch until the karaoke episode, I think it's 5 or 6, it becomes episodic after that. I think you would enjoy a show about the hardships of being the best stronk boy and love when both sides want to go beyond their human limits to as kakoii as their partner.

[@plebugen9659]

Nier is about 3 times darker than DG 3. But it only gets dark after the first two endings P.S the only thing 100% automata gives you is a secret boss battle with Emil. Its not a requirement for any of the endings

[@voices0000]

30:50 that's some weak shit son. jump counter resets to 2 when you touch the ground, so you leave your jump off ledge with the light-attack hold into light attack combo into heavy+jump lifter (gives more height than normal jump) and take it from there. You learned how to jump, now learn how to fly!

[@Noponis]

Also I don't think he mentioned that move where you do like a flying dropkick off your pod by hitting light attack+pod fire at the same time(iirc)

[@voices0000]

Long-jump is a deep rabbit hole. It reinforces the point that movement is more interesting than combat in this game, which I agree on. Makes sense for a game by a guy who thinks we're sick fucks for enjoying murder in video games.

[@Pacal_II]

Since you mentione that you like art with intellectual contant, what would be some games that fit that mold?

[@juanpuertas8042]

Hmmm ... You made me wanna return to the game , I got the A, B, C, D and E endings and stopped playing cause I thought that the game had nothing to offer me. I mean , I got almost all done ( like 90% of the game) and I thought that It would not get any better than what I already played. Maybe I should play at last the original Nier and complete the Emil mission in automata , which are some of the few things that I left incompleted and it seems like it gives you a new ending.

[@Ronin11111111]

I don't listen to music in the shower, I'm just a natural master at speed-showering it takes me 60-90 seconds at most.

[@MaxDOutEX]

Damn it Guy, you've made me want to play Drakengard 3 only for a the sake of playing a Rhythm game final boss.

[@skipthewave]

I'm sure tons of people told you this already, but like in Drakengard 3 and Automata, you could say the meat of the game in the original NieR is after you get the first ending.

[@thynErro]

All you have to do to unlock ending E in Nier: Automata is to do all other endings.

[@Aspirinium]

I've seen someone's starting Automata on a stream and didn't like it despite all the HYPE for some reason. But night play it someday. Speaking of games, it might be off topic and you won't see it and responf but still. Nate, have you played new games of Tales series? Like Zestiria and Berseria. If not, you should because they are damn good, esp that improved battle system which might seem too complicated at the beginning, but is hellota fun later in the game. And the story is pretty interesting. AND THERE'S DECENT WAIFU MATERIAL, TOO.

[@titanquest15]

Wait. You don't have to get stuff for ending E. You mean ending Y?

[@SaberRexZealot]

You don't have to get every weapon to get ending E. You just had to beat the final boss as both characters on a single save file.

[@isaakao1]

Yo what's the title of the song you time your showers to? The clip you played was awesome but I can't find it.

[@NiGhTzz2903]

Did you know about the R1-X-Joystick move?

[@TekTheNinja]

I platinumed the fuck outta this game. Possibly my new favorite game. Like, ever. Like Jesus Christ I love it.

[@britishninja]

Doth my eyes deceive me Nathan dose not Upload videos in this vicinity of time ?

[@TheExiagundam]

Uh, to get ending E in Automata all you had to do was do the final battle again with the opposite choice of who to fight as. You went way above and beyond what you had to do lol.

[@SpoofyZapps435]

not listening to music in the shower is weird.

[@DonChalant]

I hope you go back to Nier 1, NG+ is where it really starts to shine.

[@ksemanr]

So since you like discovering the controls of your character, did you know that you can extend combos indefinitely by switching weapons mid combo? Or that you can cancel a self destruct or berserk by clicking both sticks without holding them, and cancel/offset long animations to continue to build longer combos? Also lore: There's a bunch of extended lore media for every game in the DrakeNier series. Short story novellas, audio drama CDs, a YoRHa stage play that is a prequel to the game, etc. The general thread has links for you to find these things. Some of this stuff is really cool.

[@henryeyes22]

This is a nice video

[@Grasses0n]

I really like Nier: Automata. Would all the Drakengard games be worth playing at this point or just 3? What about Nier?

[@PATCHALEXY]

you don't need to get anything to get ending e, just do ending c and d then play d again and accept the pod's resquest during the credits

[@CHANONII]

Nate sounds like he would be Jerma's younger brother.

[@zackarin4703]

Wait but.....you don't need to lvl up all the weapons to get the true ending?

[@shadicnion500]

boy if he thinks that boss was tough he should fight the queen beast.

[@espada9000]

2:30 That is not nearly as bad as the brand D final boss on Drakengard 3. Do you know how long I was complaining and raging I was doing. For about a day and a half straight. And when I finally beat that lame ass boss battle, I stop playing the game since 2 and a half years ago.

[@unicep12345]

GOD DAMN 2Bs thighs are inviting

[@AceofJays15]

Nier is my GOTY so far, almost all the sidequests were great, movement is awesome and fun, the story was quite interesting. Definitely a gem that a lot of people have overlooked because of Horizon Zero Dawn and Breath of the Wild; not to mention the people who don't like the fact that all the girls in the game are sexy lol

[@squarephantom661]

I'm waiting for the the FFXV video

[@EK-xs7fe]

Why they have to make 2B look like an absolute snack of all snacks.

[@risingbob5230]

20:30 my.mixtape.moe/rggpdt.png I very much liked how the game went into how machines would act if they had no purpose. Like imitating humans and keeping the war going. In the end it seems so pointless but that's reality. Boiling it down to "What if AI's were as smart as humans" is kind of missing the point. It explores much more fundamental things about life through machines. While I agree that it's more of a tone piece, as you describe it, it's got a bunch of really interesting stuff going on.

[@sammylucas6395]

Hey Nate, since you shower so fast, do you ever exfoliate or do you have some other form of skin care? I know you too appreciate the male form so I was just wondering.